I too like this suggestion. I have seen something similar elsewhere. This two level menu could provide a lot of information in a structured way.

spiralfunk wrote:
>To do 95% of my bookmarking with the toolbar, would require at least to have the privacy-switch visible on it.

I agree. A privacy switch visible on the toolbar could be useful for quick bookmarking.

>Opening the Diigo pop-up feels too slow for me...
Anyone else prefer QuickD for all their bookmarking? Would anyone else prefer not to open a pop-up window when bookmarking if it could be circumvented somehow?

Actually I like the pop-up window because I prefer to add at least some tags right when I bookmark a web page and not later. I can't do that with QuickD.

Thanks for the tip, spiralfunk.

Great. This is a very useful feature and will definitely help to bring more conistency into the group tags.

buckoa51 wrote:
> Is there a way to make diigo bookmarks open in a new tab rather than in the currently active tab?

Yes, you can do that. In my opinion, the easiest way to do this is to use the following mouse/keyboard shortcuts in Mozilla Firefox:
a) click the hyperlink, in this case the Diigo bookmark link, with the left mouse button while holding down the Ctrl key on the keyboard -> this opens the web page in a new tab in the foreground
b) click the hyperlink with the left mouse button while simultaneously holding down the Ctrl key and the Shift key on the keyboard -> this opens the web page in a new tab in the background

In Opera, the mouse/keyboard shortcuts are:
a) Shift key + clicking the left mouse button opens the hyperlink in a new tab in the foreground
b) Shift key + Ctrl key + clicking the left mouse button opens the hyperlink in a new tab in the background

maggie_diigo wrote:
> Hi fridemar

>We already offer a "Show Annotation" View Mode setting in the toolbar where you can easily toggle your viewing preference (All, private, group, disable).

I think this selection button works nicely. I like having it displayed separated from the Diigo drop-down list button so that I access it more quickly.

@Fridemar: Did you know that you can have this view mode selection being displayed as a separate button in the toolbar by enabling "Show this setting on the toolbar"?

jequirity, have a look at this thread here for a previous discussion about this issue:

http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/99

locative wrote:
> I like a lot the new sticky note :)
>
> 3 notes:
> - I tested in this page. The "action" menu i suppose should say "delete sticky" instead of "delete highlight"? So there is no related highligted text.

The new type of sticky notes can be independent of any highlights. So, I agree with you, the action menu should say "Delete sticky note" in this case. I guess this wording is due to the fact that this new type of sticky notes was developed based on the other type of sticky notes that do require highlights.

> - Why can't i choose public? Maybe beacuse i'm logged in the forum?... but the webpage is public. I think this happens to the common highlighted text too.

In order to create public sticky notes, you need at least two friends in the Diigo community. This requirement was introduced to minimize abuse of sticky notes for graffiti and spam.
Also see here: http://www.diigo.com/help/stickynote/2

> - I suppose you are still working in the visual design of this sticky, just in case: two letters inside that bubble don't say anything about what's inside it.

Very true indeed. I agree.

>Would be better and cleaner just empty or an adapted shape with the first 3 or 4 words.

One thing that should considered here is that the bubbles of sticky notes independent of highlights always show. So, even though these bubbles can be moved around easily, they shouldn't be too big because otherwise they might clutter up the webpage, which makes reading it more difficult (of course, only if there are many of them).
But a bit more than two letters should still be OK I think.

fridemar wrote:
> Unfortunately the hyperlink-feature in the rich text annotation box of a "sticky note" doesn't seem to work (, as experienced some minutes ago) .
> Clicking on the Link-icon doesn't produce the popup to fill in the target link URL.

Hi Fridemar,

Nice to see another Diigo user from Germany here. I remember you already posting some very good feedback in the older Diigo forum.

Regarding this bug: A confirmation from my side. The hyperlink feature (inside sticky notes) did work up to Diigo toolbar v1.0.2007040900, but does not work with v1.0.2007040901.

Maggie wrote:
> 2) Diigo toolbar is fully customizable. If you're short of real estate space on your desktop, you can just keep the single "Diigo" button on the toolbar. Please see http://www.diigo.com/help/toolbar/3

3) woo1018 -- > "an extension for Diigo (like the first button on the toolbar) would be great if you could add it to the Navigation Toolbar like Delicious and Furl." --- > > please elaborate what you mean?

I suppose what woo1018 meant was how he could get the Diigo button into the Navigation Toolbar of Mozilla Firefox.

You already explained how to do that under point 2) but I will give just give some instructions right here to make it easier for the OP.

@woo1018: You can take any of the Diigo toolbar buttons out of the Diigo toolbar and move them to any place in any other Firefox toolbar. So, if you would like to have something like the del.icio.us or Furl button within the Navigation Toolbar, just go to View --> Toolbars --> Customize. While the appearing window is open, you can customize any of your toolbars. Move the Diigo button (= the first button the Diigo toolbar) to the Navigation Toolbar. Then, close this window again. Go to View --> Toolbars. There you can hide the toolbars that you don't want to be displayed by removing the checkmark.

After doing all that, your toolbar might look like this:


Is that what you wanted, woo1018?

I agree, it is a very good idea to have an avatar. This makes it a lot easier to remember people. I for my part can remember faces a lot better than names. This is true for most people. Even though it is nice to see what the person you are communicating with looks like, I think the avatar doesn't have to be a personal photo - some people may not feel very photogenic or want to stay anonymous. Just any individual avatar can serve as a visual memory aid and be very helpful in "recognizing" people again.

maggie_diigo wrote:
> Just learn about this (details below)

If you like Diigo, please kindly take a little bit of your time and nominate Diigo at http://www.webware.com/html/ww/100.html.

We'd greatly appreciate our community users' help. Thanks a lot for your support in advance!

~ Maggie



Just put my nomination on this site for Diigo. Diigo really deserves to be placed among the top 10 services in its category. I put my nomination into the category "Community: social networks, groups". This seemed like the most relevant group to me (note: only one category can be selected). What do you think?

It is definitely on the Diigo team's to-do list. Just takes some time because this forum is still pretty new. See this thread here: http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/24

davido wrote:

> I miss the old Diigo forums for at least one reason: There seems to be
> no way to do a full-text search of previous topics in Diigo forum!

As already mentioned the full-text searching is a feature to come. But for now, you could use this workaround:

1) Go to the Google homepage (http://www.google.com/ or your country's local version of Google)
2) Then use the following syntax to perform a full-text search in the new Diigo forum:
[enter search term here] site:http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/
For example: full-text site:http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/
This should find all pages with the term "full-text" in them.

Of course, you need to consider the inevitable delay that is caused by the time it takes till Google has indexed all newly added discussions/thread in the Diigo forum.

davido wrote:

> good idea! do you know how long that google-lagtime actually is?

No, sorry, unfortunately I don't know how long that lagtime is.

Hi loyola,

Since web annotations are a completely new type of information source, there is no defined format yet. Therefore, I would say you can use your own format.

As you suggested yourself, I would base this format on the standard format for web page citations. IMO, the best recommendations for this come from the APA and MLA.

I would give as much information as possible (as far as the information is available and/or applicable) such as:

* Author of the annotation
* Some descriptive "title" for the annotation
* Author of the web page
* Title of the webpage
* Date of the webpage (created or last updated)
* URL
* Date of access

Oliver

loyola, can you give an example of an annotation that you would like to cite? That would make it easier to compose a suitable format.

The Web is full of information about how to cite electronic resources.
Just do a Google search on
APA cite "electronic resources" or
MLA cite "electronic resources"
and you will find lots of information.

But as I said before, web annotations are something completely new, so we would have to make up our own format based on citation formats that already exist for other electronic resources.

I think what donalconlon meant by "rolled up" sticky note is a sticky note with a title only and hidden contents. For example, there is a sticky note software that allows adding sticky notes to your computer desktop. I copied a section of its help file with some images. You can have a look at it here:


And here you can see another side by side comparison of a rolled up vs a not rolled up sticky note:


I think the option of adding a title would be a good idea anyway because - as someone else mentioned before - a few letters within a bubble do not tell much about what a sticky note contains. A title consisting of a couple of words would probably be much more descriptive. Of course, a title bar would take up more space than a bubble but not too much I think.

I could reproduce your problem. However, the problem seems to be that the highlightings + stickies and the floating stickies are just not displayed on the webpage even though they are still there in some way. When I go to "My Bookmarks" ("My Diigo"), I can see they have been saved. Just click on "Expand" and you will see them. At least, that is what it is like here on my computer.

Tanya, your disappointment was justified because this is not the way it is supposed to be. Normally, you should see the highlights and stickies directly on the webpage where you put them.

Yesterday, I added some highlights and sticky notes to the webpage you gave above and a couple of other webpages. I was not able to not see the highlights and the sticky notes on the webpage. I did that using (Portable) Firefox 1.5, so I thougth this problem may be related to the Firefox version or it may be a conflict of extensions. So, I tried a brand-new "installation" of (Portable) Firefox 2.0 today and it worked, that is I could see all highlights and sticky notes directly on the webpage. Then, I went back to (Portable) Firefox 1.5 and it worked as well. The problem was gone. I suppose it was only a temporary problem.

Do you still have the problem?

maggie_diigo wrote:
> I see. >Interesting that you point this out - wonder how important is that additional "userxxx said ...(on 05-11-2007 replied to useryyyy on #1)"?

I think it would be useful in complex threads. But such threads don't occur very often IMO.

>1) Do people realize that you can reply to a specific post within a thread, or do people just default to use the last comment in a thread to "reply"?

I do realize this.

>2) For readers reading a forum discussion thread, do they really pay attention to the # on a thread, and actively trying to follow which comment is replied to which comment, or they just read through the thread sequentially?

This depends on the kind of display. If the comments/replies are indented/organized in the way they are in most newsreaders, then it is easy to pay attention to which comment followed which comment. However, if the comments/replies all look the same and the information about which comment refers to another comment can only be found in the header, then most people including myself read through the thread sequentially.

On http://www.diigo.com/community I saw a list of so-called "Featured Users" on the right-hand side of the page. What are "Featured Users" in Diigo?

OK, I admit this takes just one click but still I would find it convenient if there was an *option* to be immediately redirected to the "My Bookmarks" page immediately after signing in - because 9 out of 10 times this is where I start using Diigo.

I wanted to add that staying signed in is OK for my personal home computer but not where several other people use the same computer. This is why I need to sign in and out quite often.

I noticed that a few cached webpages look somewhat strange compared to their original version.

Here is an example:
1) Cached copy:
http://www.diigo.com/cached?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dreammailer.de
2) Original version:
http://www.dreammailer.de/

I guess this is due to the webpages and not Diigo's fault. Has anyone else noticed that, too?

OK, I see. Thanks for explaining that to me.

It may happen that I make typing errors or would like to rephrase/add/change/delete something in my posts. Then, it would be useful if I could edit my own posts. As far as I could see only deletion of one's own posts is possible so far.

In order to prevent excessive changes in older posts, you could implement an editing deadline. For example,you could allow editing of posts for one week after the initial posting. If someone absolutely needs to edit his/her post after that time, you may allow it upon moderator/forum manager request.

Maggie wrote:
> There are 2 modes of structuring your Group Forums:
>
> 1) Traditional "Category" method: the Group Manager may decide to organize
> forum posts according to pre-selected categories, or
>
> 2) "Tagging" method: this mode allows group members to tag each of their
> own posts as they see fit. The latter method, while potentially less tightly
> organized, harnesses the power of tagging in a forum setting.

Obviously, for this forum the second method was chosen. This is good in on the one hand as it keeps the forum organized into its original categories but has its disadvantages on the other because it does not allow making full use of tags. I suppose one of the goals of this new forum type is to make it easier to find relevant posts. This would be easier to achieve with the "tagging" method (for example, one could tag posts dealing with importing bookmarks "import"). Maybe both methods can be implemented in parallel so that one could switch between a category and a tag view. Then, one could easily select a category to go into a what used to be sub-forums and at the same time one could easily find relevant posts.