> i'd like to use comma to separate tags. is it possible?

In some contexts, yes, commas are acceptable, though I don't know whether it's official or encouraged.

Try it :)

(Wherever you see an instruction to use white space between tags, or to enclose multiple word tags "in quotation marks", observe that advice.)

If you find inconsistencies, please share with this forum.

Hint: some inconsistencies are already reported; to the right, you can 'Search Group Topics'.

Regards
Graham

> can you make a close button once i voted today

Do you mean, the widget that invites us to vote for Diigo in the Mashable Open Web Awards?

> i can close that column and keep having my tags on the top of right
> side?

Do you mean, the right hand column that appears alongside 'My Bookmarks?



In both 'My Dashboard' http://www.diigo.com/dashboard/ and 'My Bookmarks' I find the embedded widget obtrusive. It's certainly effective (I mean: it does remind me to vote), but I'd prefer to have the widget in a window that pops up on demand.

@ Diigo, pretty please:

* can you find some other way of reminding us to vote?

Use the same starting points to alert/remind us, but make the effect less large. An amber button/lozenge, maybe, that leads to the widget.

Thanks
Graham

(I do have in mind a method/placement that's equally eye-catching but less obtrusive. It'll appear when I get around to sketching my ideas on UI rearrangement.)

= See also =

http://www.diigo.com/annotated/072605c4069f8a6781ae15c3a1f393ad observing clutter in a Dashboard context.

http://message.diigo.com/message/205338
http://message.diigo.com/message/264672
http://message.diigo.com/message/264680

One of three is missing a party to the conversation.

Three of three seem to be missing content; in each one, I refer to something but all references are missing.

The recipients (recently registered) were probably unimpressed with such introductions to Diigo ;)

@ Diigo

1) Is the missing party a sign that the person simply left the conversation? Or might the person have changed their Diigo ID? I'd like to recall, but can't, the name of the person to whom I wrote about 'Research in Learning Contexts' :(

2) Would you estimate that all three messages were casualties of http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/6986 - is it an issue with Ruby on Rails?

@ Diigo

> 2) Would you estimate that all three messages were casualties of
> http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/6986 - is it an issue
> with Ruby on Rails?

Tests in relation to
http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/9602
coincidentally reveal that messages sent in that way produce
copies that are incomplete.

My sent copies in the Diigo Message area are:

* limited to the covering text
* _missing_ the most relevant things: the bookmarks.

So: I guess is that this is a design omission (not a RoR issue).

> 1) Is the missing party a sign that the person simply left the
> conversation? Or might the person have changed their Diigo ID? I'd
> like to recall, but can't, the name of the person to whom I wrote
> about 'Research in Learning Contexts' :(

That question remains unanswered. No rush.

Best regards
Graham

I'm advised that loss and breakage of URLs is related to a problem with Ruby on Rails.

@ Diigo

Please, do you have a reference for the bug?

Re: http://www.diigo.com/annotated/8903d3a815af4f17f67d87448a391fc0

> both IE and Maxthon use the Trident rendering engine

http://www.diigo.com/annotated/60d319ceb49e61238bb388df3b0e2951 indicates that the most recent version of Maxthon may be _less_ compatible with plug-ins such as Diigo Toolbar for Internet Explorer.

FWIW (I never used Maxthon) I would try Diigolet for Maxthon, http://www.diigo.com/tools/diigolet

Good luck
Graham

Hi Tim

http://www.diigo.com/annotated/65a5a1dd2002bfa5b6f266e88965871d
(thanks to Maggie) mentions uses on iPhone;
http://www.diigo.com/annotated/3b4c30eb4019c42ff73a8774efb617bb
highlights the April 2008 announcement of the prototype for mobile,
and I guess that you already use http://m.diigo.com/user/somecallmetim

However: the m.diigo.com UI lacks your requested feature:

> post bookmarks

A highlight from http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/5766#15

>> We plan to make read it later feature more easy to use and better
>> than before. Any feature request and suggestion are welcome.

In response to Joel's invitation, conversation tended towards Firefox (and presumably Flock and Internet Explorer) -only development, I argued that we should expect web technologies (not browser-specific technologies).

http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/8956#5 clarifies that

>> keen for http://about.diigo.com/ http://groups.diigo.com/
>> http://message.diigo.com/ http://www.diigo.com/ to be more
>> consistent, more harmonious, easier to use, more appealing

To that list I should add http://m.diigo.com/ although considering the constraints of mobile, we can't expect m.diigo.com to be entirely harmonious with domains that are designed for desktop.

In the same topic:

>> not pushing for improvements to Diigolet (though improvements there
>> will be welcome)

In this forum we have a few issues (bugs and suggestions, some recently resolved) with Diigolet and related dialogues. Plus issues that are specific to browsers. Without referring to any one issue, my broad sense is that many may be deferred or rejected if we take the following approach:

1. desktop, through the web (TTW) (any browser): a Diigo Dashboard http://www.diigo.com/dashboard/ route to preferences for the read later button

2. desktop, TTW: 'read later' button to appear in Diigolet

3. iPhone, TTW (typically Safari): 'read later' button to appear in Diigolet

4. iPhone, primarily offline: a 'reading' application to comprise (a) aspects of Diigo plus other complementary technologies, and (b) triage, or something like it (re: triage, I'll post a separate topic)

5. desktop, TTW, at http://groups.diigo.com/ http://www.diigo.com/ and their desktop-oriented siblings: 'post-reading' and other activities.

There's workflow, without slavery to workflow.

Of the five points, (3) is closest to your request:

> post bookmarks

Re: details of points (3) and (4) and of triage, I'll post separately.

Postscript: I'll await a response to http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/9009 then post to two fora then await their responses before continuing…

Magnolia South wrote:

> In the Delicious sidebar I can enter a tag search then right click
> on one of the results, select Properties, and then I can edit that
> particular bookmark. For easily organizing bookmarks, this is
> essential.
>
> In Diigo, as far as I can tell, I would need to click on the
> bookmark then edit the bookmark or go to your site to edit it.
> That's a bit more tedious and for super users like myself, it
> quickly becomes a problem.

1. in a list of bookmarks, focus attention on any one bookmark:


2. click the Edit button.

-- so you don't need to first click on the bookmark then edit; you simply click 'Edit'.

Diigo search results lack the Edit buttons:

- I guess the intention is to maximise space in this situation.

I don't use Delicious sidebar so I can't visualise your power use. Any chance you could post a screen shot to this topic?

Thanks
Graham

An earlier topic:
http://groups.diigo.com/group/Diigo_HQ/content/546845 (2007-05-22)
Editing existing notes

An explanation from Diigo:
http://groups.diigo.com/group/Diigo_HQ/content/548217#2 (2010-01-08)
Sticky notes can not be edited

1. in Firefox 3.0.4 extended with Diigo Toolbar 3.1.6.5 on Mac OS X 10.5.5

2. opt to 'Show drop-down menu when text is selected'

3. mid-sentence, mid-line: double click a word to commence selection

(screen shot)

4. using the mouse and I-beam cursor, attempt to extend selection.


= Expected =

The second should extend the selection to that point without losing the contextual menu.


= Bug=

The second click

* fails to extend the selection

* causes the contextual menu to disappear

(screen shot)

* requiring more clicks than usual

(screen shot)


* defeating the purpose of the option.


= Comparison =

Diigolet 3.1b446 in Safari 4.0 (5528.1) (developer preview) is fine; the second click extends the selection and simultaneously, the contextual menu repositions itself to suit the selection:

|

Postscript: added comparative screen shots of Diigolet working properly in Safari.

My contextual menu as it would normally appear in Firefox 3.0.4 extended with Diigo Toolbar 3.1.6.5 on Mac OS X 10.5.5:



The Diigo 3.1.6.5 for Firefox option to 'Show drop-down menu when text is selected' (in this screen shot, the option is not enabled):



The effect of enabling the option:




= Bug =

* only Diigo items remain in the menu

* most other contextual menu items are missing.


= A guess =

Could this be a conflict between Diigo Toolbar and some other extension?

Observed twice, most recently whilst troubleshooting under http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/8982

= See also =

http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/6751

> All I would really want is a link to "edit tags"

Israel Saeta Pérez wrote:

> The "save" button should be higlighted (or hidden) in bookmarks
> you've already saved in the group bookmarks list.



At the moment, the Save dialogue is a group member's primary route to

* saving (adding) to a list
* saving (sharing) with another group.

(for Diigo Groups: the Edit Bookmark dialogue lacks these functions) so whilst I agree that it's not logical to offer to save something that is already saved, we do still need a streamlined way for groups to share and to add to lists.

Elsewhere, some time ago in this forum, there's a topic that acknowledges the need to extend/refine menus such as 'More Actions…' in the Diigo Groups UI.

Beyond Diigo Groups: the Edit Bookmark dialogue is remarkably different:



If the Edit Bookmark dialogue for Groups is harmonised with other Edit Bookmark dialogues

then we might expect sharing and listing options to appear within the dialogue

and in our thoughts on design, we should not forget the image offered by Nate:

in which there is suggested the option of simultaneous saving/sharing to multiple groups and more.

= See also =

* http://www.diigo.com/annotated/26b7b230543dc1c52a7910dcd2d6df2b debating use of certain expressions

* http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/7125 also concerning consistent use of expressions

* the list of expressions to be debated will grow

* http://www.diigo.com/annotated/d81629500f5ec8c516e8a14a562fd8a5 comment 29 where I'm seeking (not necessarily expecting) a greater understanding of relationships between objects etc..

Postscript: added http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/7125 to the 'See also' list.

> Well then change the "Save" link to a "Share"

AFAIR the options relating to sharing are envisaged or at least suggested as a menu, not as a button:



- and the UI for groups should be harmonious with the UI for self.

>> Elsewhere, some time ago in this forum, there's a topic that
>> acknowledges the need to extend/refine menus such as 'More
>> Actions…' in the Diigo Groups UI.

I'm sorry that I can't find that topic. If anyone finds it before I do, please cross-reference. Thanks.

> or "Edit" link

Edit already exists but

>> Edit Bookmark dialogue is remarkably different [from Edit Bookmark
>> dialogue elsewhere].

> needs a clear delineation

Agreed.

> between what you have saved and what you have not.

In the groups view, actions may have meanings that are more plural (i.e. applying to many within the group) so the approaches and wording deserve great care.

> needs a solution.

Agreed :)

> > > Elsewhere, some time ago in this forum, there's a topic that
> > > acknowledges the need to extend/refine menus such as 'More
> > > Actions…' in the Diigo Groups UI.
>
> I'm sorry that I can't find that topic.

Found it:
http://www.diigo.com/annotated/9996c8a7726bb9f7d604eac64317e7ae

> can i have more diigo accounts

AFAIK yes, at least I see nothing to the contrary at
http://www.diigo.com/help/terms

> and switch between them

If limiting yourself to a single browser:

1. sign out from one Diigo account

2. log in using a different Diigo account.

If you have two or more browsers installed:

1. launch your second browser and sign in using a different account.

If using Diigolet on Mac OS X:

* lock your keychain before presenting Diigolet

otherwise the keychain may provide the most recent credentials before you have a chance to provide the alternative.

> switch between them

If using Safari, you can prefer to show its Develop menu, then switching between browsers is easy:

1. Develop menu
2. Open Page With
3. from the list of installed browsers, select one.

Israel Saeta Pérez wrote:

> I'd like to find a big visible button to post a new bookmark in *every* page.
>
> IMO the top-right corner is the right place for it.

Hi Israel

Whilst at
http://groups.diigo.com/ploned/bookmark
http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/bookmark
you're not blind to it; the feature is missing.

IMO the feature should certainly be added, or at least optional, within the dashboard; for you that's
http://www.diigo.com/dashboard/dukebody

At your bookmarks
http://www.diigo.com/user/dukebody you should normally find the 'Add a bookmark' near to top right, but at the moment, it is considerably displaced by the Diigo/Mashable invitation to vote.

http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/next-phase-diigo-the-future-7336#5 noted

> 9. the add bookmark page
> - which is in some ways, like an about page
> - changes to which are envisaged

- but unfortunately I can't find any details of those changes.

Maybe the details are separate from the forum; if they're in a Diigo message or conversation, it's highly unlikely that I'll relocate them.

Best,
Graham

PS sorry I couldn't join you for the tune-up on Friday 5th; I was (nearly) enjoying a long weekend off from everything. We can catch up in IRC or whenever.

Scott Allam wrote:

> right click and choose Bookmark this page

Not applicable to Diigolet (but thanks).

> I personally would like a keyboard shortcut hotkey to perform this

1. without Diigo toolbar

2. add to the bookmarks bar of Safari: http://www.diigo.com/post

3. if the bookmark is at, say, position #5 on the bar, then (on Mac OS X) command-5 will present the dialogue

(For myself, I have shortuct command-1 assigned to Diigolet.)

> a means to define in the Options Dialog box of Diigo, however that
> Dialog box is broken. I will insert that item into a bug report.

http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/option-dialog-box-8982 noted and I'll respond.

> IMO the top-right corner is the right place for it

There's another topic http://www.diigo.com/annotated/64efb3911a6a8e6bca020a46e399a836 concerning placement at top right but AFAICT the other refers to top right of a dialogue (not top right of a page).

My gut feeling is that top right is a good place. (I'll consider this when I get around to sketching a suggested rearrangement of UI.)

Diigo | Discover menu | Browse Lists | Search Lists

The few examples I seek, which do exist, are not found.

The examples are not recent.

Hi Bob

For me, all of the following do default to private:

* comments
* highlights (I have added my highlight to this topic, readers should not see it)
* notes stuck to highlights
* floating sticky notes.

I'm using the most recent Diigolet in Safari 3.2.1 (5525.27.1) on Mac OS X 10.5.5.

Please:

Are you adding annotations to a bookmark that was previously shared?

When you add your annotations, are you

1) using Diigo Toolbar?
- If so, which version?

or

2) using Diigolet?

or

3) using Diigo web site (adding annotations to existing bookmarks)?

> You could also set the GUID to the diigo annotated link (which is unique, I believe?)

AFAIK each annotated link is unique.

If it's relevant to your thoughts, Joel:

* for a single URL, there may arise four annotated links, depending on how the person gaining the link (a.k.a. permalink, a.k.a. annotated page) mixes the options:



There's also the SRL that's offered by Diigo About.