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Denise Sanchez

What are you good at? - 0 views

  • complaining
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      I really like to complain.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      I also like to complain.
  • demonstrating
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      I am good at demonstrating.
    • Brandon Cruz
       
      I love to show people new things. I don't want to be a teacher when I grow up but, I get this weird sense of accomplishment out of it. I worked at a summer camp a few years ago where I was the high ropes instructor. I dealt with mostly middle school kids who were all scared to death to climb up the thirty feet knowing that the only thing keeping them from falling was a rope. Once they built up enough courage to do it, though, it was awesome to help them through all the obstacles and conquer their fears.
  • running
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      I am a good runner.
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  • cooking
    • Brandon Cruz
       
      I wouldn't go as far to say that I am particularly "good" at cooking but it is something that I enjoy. I did an internship during my senior year in high school at Publix Supermarkets in their photography studio where we shot all of the photos for the weekly sales ad that they produce. It was really interesting to see how much work goes into preparing the different meals for photographing. They brought in a food stylist to "style" the food to make it look the best it could for the shot. Ever since then when I cook I almost worry more about the presentation than anything which, often leads to sacrifice in taste.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      A food stylist. There's a job I never knew existed. Cool.
    • Hinal Patel
       
      I don't seem to be passionate about much, but cooking is definitely one of them. I watch the Food Network Channel almost religiously. I use cooking as an escape from regular life because it is one thing that I can really control. I like knowing that not only are there concrete ways to make something, it's okay to stray away and do your own thing. I started cooking because in my family, girls are expected to start making food early. I just got lucky that I really liked the idea of cooking. I've taken a few baking classes and really wanted to major in culinary arts, but science just seemed more practical. Food is one thing that I can easily move from culture to culture and have now learned what spices go with what places. I'm glad that I have grown up with Indian food all my life because I find that starting to cook Indian has made it easier for me to cook other types of food. It also gives me something to connect to with the women of my family because sharing recipes is something I can finally be a part of. Cooking is something that comes in handy with many things and my passion for it keeps building with every new thing I make. I realized that if I could be anything, it would be a host on my own cooking show, but since I feel better on the other side of the screen, a hobby is all it will be.
    • Brian Russo
       
      Cooking is a pretty big deal in my family. Pretty much everyone in my family is an excellant cook, including both of my parents, grandparents and all of my aunts and uncles. This is more than likely due to the fact that my heritage is predominantly Italian and Italian people historically love to cook and eat as well. Nonetheless, cooking is something I consider myself very good at and apparently others do as well, as I have received numerous compliments on my cooking. As in a restaurant, where customer satisfaction is all that matters, your main objective as a cook is for whoever you're cooking for to be completely satisfied with the meal that you've prepared. It feels good and satisfying to know that your cooking was enjoyed and appreciated. Even though I really enjoy cooking, a hobby is all it will ever be. I don't plan on making a career out of it. In fact, I only started to cook almost out of necessity. Both of my parents, who are now seperated, work for the airlines, with my dad being a pilot and my mom being a flight attendant. Me and my younger brother live at home with my dad, so while my dad is out of town flying, which is usually for about five days out of the week, I've taken on the responsibility of cooking for my brother and whatever friends he has over. Not only does home cooking save a bunch of money, but if you learn how to do it right, you don't need to sacrifice the quality of the food by not eating out. There's also a freedom about cooking that I enjoy. When you go to a restaurant theres specific things to chose from, but when you cook at home, you're menu is limitless. Cooking also gives me a chance to put my own twist on classic meals and make them to better suit my own taste and the other people who i'm cooking for as well.
  • wondering
    • Brandon Cruz
       
      I'm pretty sure I have ADD because I am the man at this. Whether it's in class, at work, or studying my mind is never where it should be. I always find myself losing focus on what I'm working on. One of my favorite things to wonder about is business ideas. I never seem to have enough money so; I'm always trying to think of new ways to produce a little extra cash flow. Nothing has ever followed through, unfortunately, although I have had some good ones
    • Denise Sanchez
       
      Its strange that of all the words listed i would pick wondering, but its the one that applies to me the most. I grew up as an only child and as such I had to invent ways to keep myself entertained. I love reading and watching movies but i can spend hours just daydreaming.
  • laughing
    • Cybil Scott
       
      I think I am equally as good at laughing as I am at offending. I think the two go hand in hand. I don't really know how one can be good at laughing, it just sort of happens. It's the sense of humor that makes it happen. In my opinion if you can dish it out you better be able to take it. My personality involves a lot of laughing; not at other people's expense per se, but I definitely find a lot of things funny in my everyday life. Keeping a good sense of humor about you allows you to not take life so seriously. There tends to be a lot of ironic circumstances in life that are just too peculiar not to laugh at. However, with that comes the occasional offending comment. Some people do not understand my offhand sarcasm. Or my witty banter. I would also include that one of my favorite things to say online or in texting is LOL. Or Hahaha. But this is not granted so easily. I am not the type of person that finds everything funny, because it would devalue the truly hilarious things in life. I am not easily offended, but I can tell when a joke contains an offensive truth. Unfortunately, I do find myself taking it too far or not understanding why a person gets upset, because I'm so used to being easygoing about these things. There are a lot of times when I have to say "Aww, come on, you know I'm just kidding…".
    • Meghan Winn
       
      When I looked at this list of words the one that jumped out at me the most was laughing. I have a great sense of humor; I love to laugh and to make other people laugh. I would say that I'm really good at cheering up my friends and family whenever they are upset about something. I believe that people really like that about me. Life would be way too serious without a good laugh wherever you can find one! Sarcasm is one of my favorite types of humor. I am very sarcastic about a lot of things. Many times people are amused by it but sometimes they can get offended! Most people understand though and know I'm just kidding! I also love watching comedians like Mitch Hedberg or Dane Cook. They always give me a good laugh!
  • instructing
    • Bob The Builder
       
      When looking at this assignment, the word "instructing" stood out to me above all others. It's a weird thing to claim to be good at, but I believe that I am great at instructing. It's not that I'm a bossy person; I just tend to be a huge perfectionist. Usually in group situations I would rather be the leader than a follower because I like giving out orders and instructing people to complete certain tasks. When I took cooking classes with my friends and older sister I unintentionally was always the one giving people their jobs for the day. Maybe I have a slight OCD problem but it just bothers me if things are not organized to my liking so I would rather delegate and make sure things go according to plan. Instructing can also be used in terms of teaching, which I am equally good at. I usually can break material down into simpler and more understanding terms and teach it to someone who is having difficulty grasping those particular concepts. When I took chemistry my sophomore year of high school, my best friend at the time, was struggling every class period and couldn't understand the concepts the way our professor would teach them. Because I did, I was able to break down the lessons and teach it to her in a way that she had no problem comprehending. I guess in certain ways, instructing is one of my best qualities as well as my worst. It makes me an excellent tutor but also a slightly controlling team member. I think I just need to realize everything doesn't have to be perfect.
  • listening
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      I believe that I am good at listening. Whenever a friend or anyone in general needs to vent about someone or something, I always try my best to be available. I actually listen and for the most part, if I am not overwhelmed with occurences in my life, I genuinely care. I offer advice when I feel it is necessary. Even if I give bad advice, or even if they do not take it, I still offer it just in case they decide to use it. Having someone that is able and willing to listen to you, whether good or bad news, helps to release stress. Although I think I am a good listener, I am horrible at talking. I do not like to share my feelings with many people. The only emotions I do show are when I am happy or excited. When I am sad or unhappy I do not like to share those feelings with anyone because I do not want to burden other people with my troubles. Even though I feel like sharing my troubles with my friends produces stress for them, I have been told that not talking to them stresses them out more than if I had just talked to them in the first place. So for anyone who is listening and cares to take it, my advice is don't keep your feelings to yourself because it just brings more stress to everyone involved! Let your friends and family know what is going on in your life and both you and them will be less stressed.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I believe that I am a pretty social person, considering that I am good at both listening and talking. I try my best to listen to people's problems when they need to talk, and I appreciate when they do the same for me. I believe that I have always been good at this, especially through all the high school "drama" with boys, stresses, and fights. All of my friends, especially my best friends, know that they can come to me whenever they have any issue that they need advice on or they just need to get something off their chests. They all know that I won't judge them, I will only listen and give my honest input when I feel that it is needed. I think that good listening skills are a very important trait to have.
  • writing
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      I would have to say that writing on an interesting topic is one of my favorite things to do. I enjoy all sorts of writing. In writing you either do research and learn allot about a particular topic. Writing is also a means of expressing oneself. One is able to express who one is or where one has been. How much history would we know if our ancestors did not write it down? If Lewis and Clark never wrote in a journal we would know nothing of their travels into the West. I enjoy writing and am fairly good at it because I understand its importance. Many papers that I have written have described my most memorable experiences. Many others have described who I am and what my life has been like. Writing is a way to never be forgotten. Someone may read one of my papers one hundred years from now and know much more about me than a classmate which I never speak with. I am good at writing and enjoy it very much because I think it is one of the best ways in expressing oneself to the world around us. The one thing that I dont enjoy is writing about uninteresting topics. I love writing about history or people. One topic that I dont think I would enjoy writing about would be Physics or Chemistry. I enjoy and am good at writing if it is a topic that I am interested in.
  • writing
    • Dena Rennie
       
      I feel that I am good at writing. It may not even be that I am good at writing, or just that I feel good when I am writing. It doesn't matter if I am writing a poem, lyrics to a song, or writing a novel that I hope one day to finish- when I'm writing, I am at peace. I feel so in control when I write, and at the same time, I feel so helpless how the words just pour from my fingers so effortlessly. I suppose it's only fitting that I would be a writer. Both my parents have an amazing way with words. The first time I came home from spending time with my dad at the age of 16, the letter he gave me to read on the plane ride home brought tears to my eyes. And the sheer passion I see in my mother's eyes when I see her teaching her journalism class tells me that had she made different choices earlier in life, she would be a fearless journalist, desperately seeking the true story behind a political scandal, or a famous novelist like the great authors she looks up to with such high regard. Yes, there is no question that part of my writing abilities comes from both my parents, but the way I write is my own. Whether I am angrily blogging, or happily jotting down haikus, I feel the most like myself when I have a pen in one hand and a notebook propped by my knees cradling my left hand as it scrawls across the pages, or at my computer with a blank screen yearning to be filled with thoughts.
  • reading
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Reading is something I really enjoy. My mom and dad both read a lot and since I was little they always encouraged me to do the same. I'm not very good at writing but I appreciate others' talents. One of my favorite authors is Chuck Palahniuk. I have read many of his books and find the way he tells the story to be very interesting and unique. I wish I could write like that! I regret that I don't read as often as I used to but since I started college I've been pretty busy reading textbooks instead of novels!
  • talking
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      Talking is one of my favorite things to do. However, it can also be one of my least favorite when the person is not interesting. Striking up an inteligent, interesting, and witty conversation can really be quite pleasurable. I like talking because you meet alot of very interesting people that many times have something worth saying. For instance; I was in the airport about a month ago on my way back from Yellowstone and Glacier National Park just kiling time; when I found myself in a great conversation. The man I talked to was older with a son beginning college this semester, just so happened they were going to be around Yellowstone on one last pre-college family vacation. Of course this immediately warranted some talking. I found myself telling them the few places they absolutely could not miss, along with some that respectfully could be. This, believe it or not, brought alot of joy to me. I knew that they were also, like me, going to experience a moment that really cannot be fully explained through talking alone. Something you really "had to see to believe!" Now that I am home, I realize that I learned so many interesting and wonderful things that really should be talked about. On the flip side, talking can really be annoying and quite unpleasurable. When discussing things that are really your own business like grades, yet everyone and their grandmother has to know. At times when you are in a hurry and need to be somewhere, but you feel bad just turning away from a conversation that many times you don't feel to be very pleasurable. So talking most times is fun, but can also be boring and drawn out. So if you have something to talk about spit it out, and let it be heard.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Talking is another trait that I am good at. Although I don't particularly like talking in front of large groups of people, I love just talking to friends separately or in a group. Sometimes I find that I even talk too much, but my friends get used to that after knowing me for a while. I work in an environment in which it is required to be able to go up to people I may not know and start up a conversation. I may not always have been good at talking to people I don't know, but my job has persuaded me to actually like talking to people I'm not familiar with. I don't mind telling people how I feel, especially when I am upset about something-I can never keep anything inside for too long.
  • coaching
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      When it is all said and done, coaching is something that I have always wanted to pursue. I look at coaching as a way to help kids of any age get through obstacles that may come at them. Coaches are always telling us to never let up on that last lap, always run your hardest and touch the line. Never tell yourself that you can't do it or that something is too hard. You can take the most common used phrases in the gym and put them in life like scenarios. Life throws things at you left and right, if you gave up on the very first try, then how are you ever going to be successful in anything you do. It is very hard to do anything half speed, and if you never put forth your best effort how are you going to know what your potential is? A lot of people often do not even attempt a task because they psyche themselves out before they even try it. Sometimes it is just automatic for one to think that it is too hard, or there is no way one can do that. I want to be that coach or that person that helped someone succeed in the gym and then that person use those very simple lessons in life. A lot of coaches will coach to win games. But the best coaches are the ones who coach to help young kids become better people. Sure, it is a lot more fun when you win, but at the end of the day if you can't take anything home from it then what is the point.
  • writing
    • Jonathon Ellington
       
      Although I am no Ernest Hemmingway I would venture to say that I have a certain propensity for writing. I believe that this stems from my childhood; I would find myself dozing off in the shower where I was suddenly interrupted by my father who had unexpectedly walked in to the bathroom and then began to quiz me on spelling terms. While this may appear weird or bizarre at first glance, it helped me realize the power that words have. Standing there, I would wonder, "Why is he doing this? All I want to do is try to reminisce on the dream that was so rudely interrupted." But no, he was in there every Wednesday morning preparing me for the spelling pretest that was to come later that day. It wasn't until I had grown to the ripe age of a middle schooler that I realized how important writing was, not only could you tell fascinating stories but you could convey a message that would carry a deeper symbolism. During my seventh grade year two of my essays were entered into contests, both placed 1st or 2nd in their respective contests. These results inspired and encouraged me to continue my writing. As senior year of high school arrived I worked diligently to receive as much financial aid as I could. At the end of the year I had received over $15,000 in scholarship money. My first year of college was paid for and with this I was paid handsomely to attend. These events are why I consider myself a writer.
  • composing
    • Garrett Granger
       
      As I looked through the list of words on this page, it occurred to me that nothing really stood out as an actual strength of mine. I mean, I guess I do a good job of listening, talking, laughing, and even complaining, but how can you be good at something everyone else can do? It was the word "composing" that really caught my attention. For as long as I can remember, I have always enjoyed listening to music. I'm not sure why, but there is an indescribable feeling that comes over me when I hear a song I really enjoy. I guess it's something of a natural high for me. But as great as it is to listen to one of your favorite songs, it can't quite compare to playing one of your own tunes under the heat of stage lighting, in front of a crowd of cheering fans. Before moving to Tampa for college, I played the guitar for a band called South Atlantic. We never really experienced any major success, but we did play shows across the state of Florida. Now, nearly two years after our departure, I still have the desire to continue where the band left off. Unfortunately, composing a hit song has proved to be one of the greatest challenges of my life. I guess there is a reason why it's so difficult to get recognized by major record labels. I don't think that the art of creating a musical masterpiece can be taught. I believe it's one of those talents you either have, or you don't. So I guess what I'm really trying to say is, if I could choose one word from the list to help describe something I wish I were good at, it would definitely be composing.
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    Diagnostic demonstration page for Ryan Meehan's 1102 Online Fall 2008 class.
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    I know how to analyze situations. This is just a test to make sure I can figure this thing out properly.
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    I'm good at a lot of those things but since I have to choose just one I'm gonna go with: analyzing. Its probably why I like the sciences so much because as you know it does requires a lot of analytical skills. I always seem to get a little rush whenever i use the skills that I learned in class and apply them in solving a problem. My analytical skills also extend to other areas of my life. I always thoroughly evaluate all aspects of something before I gt involved, so I can make sure its what is really best for and those around me. Im also good at laughing, I'm not a huge joke teller but when I hear a good joke I can't stop laughing. Even when other people have forgotten about, I still just keep on laughing.
Dena Rennie

Peer Review Project One Thread - 148 views

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Ryan Meehan

myliblog: Uncle Bobby's Wedding - 0 views

  • Thank you for working with my assistant to allow me to fit your concerns about “Uncle Bobby's Wedding,” by Sarah S. Brannen, into our “reconsideration” process.
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      Opening with this comment welcomes the reader and makes me feel as if the author has truly considered the issue at hand.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I agree with Ashlee's statement. This is a warm welcoming to the reader.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      With this opening statement, the author gives the response a more personal feel. It also allows him to give a truthful answer without coming off as offensive.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Yes i also agree with the comments above, this is one of the very opening statements and it brings about a more personel level with the reader.
    • Brian Russo
       
      I agree as well with the comments above. This opening statement makes the reader feel welcome and ensures them that they are doing the best they can at reviewing policies and dealing with the issues at hand.
    • Brian Russo
       
      I agree with everyone. The opening statement makes the concerned parent feel welcome and that they are trying to deal with the situation as best they can.
    • Amanda Flores
       
      I like how he opens this by thanking her. It is very welcoming, like everyone has said.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      Great comment.
  • Here's what I understand to be your concern, based on your writings.
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      This comment gives me the impression that the author wants to make sure that what he thinks the issues is, actually is what the problem is. This shows caring and intelligence.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Again, I think Ashlee made a very good point with this. This is important in solving an issue.
    • Janice Perez Rivera
       
      I like the way he wrote this because he is letting her know what vibe he got from her writings. By him stating this there can be no confusion. All that she can say would be that he took it the wrong way. or that's not what she ment, if so from there on there could be more clarification if needed.
    • Dena Rennie
       
      It is very effective how he took direct quotes from the patron, so it is clear that he does not twist her words. It shows he does not want his point of view to be misconstrued.
    • Brian Russo
       
      I like the way that the writer is looking to clarify exactly what the issue at hand is so there is no confusion.
    • Amanda Flores
       
      He did good in putting this in here. He is letting her know what he feels she is concered with to see if it matches what the actual concers are. Like Ashlee said, it shows that he cares.
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      This paragraph makes me feel as if the author actually understands multiple viewpoints.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      I agree that this paragraph shows his understanding of many different views on the subject. I think citing these is effective because it lets the patron see the other views also.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I also think it is a good way for the author to either show or express that he is not just set on one point but actually multiple viewpoints.
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  • Your second issue is a little trickier. You say that the book is inappropriate, and I infer that your reason is the topic itself: gay marriage.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      I like how the author responded to this concern by citing examples from other childrens books and also giving logical reasons why these issues are addressed in childrens books.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      In this sentence we see that the defender has a clear understanding about what the argument is
  • Your third point, about the founders' vision of America, is something that has been a matter of keen interest to me most of my adult life.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      The author makes a good arguement here and supports his point very well. The fact that he wrote a book on the subject makes you believe that he knows alot about the topic and that his views about preserving our individual liberties are correct.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      Basically saying "I know more, if not as much as you do. So I'm probably right." Haha
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Yes i agree with Cybil, he basically just said that he knows his stuff in this subject matter.
  • which has reviewed and adopted these policies on behalf of our library
    • Angela Moneck
       
      This small statement is a way of persuading the reader. Without this piece of information, the reader may not trust the Board of Trustees or care about them.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      I agree, this statement provides an understanding of the authority of the Board of Trustees.
    • Brian Russo
       
      This statement shows the reader that they will make an informed decision and not a biased one.
  • Children's books deal with anything and everything. There are children's books about death (even suicide), adult alcoholism, family violence, and more.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      After stating that children's books deal with many different things, she went on to provide examples. This is important in persuading the reader to believe what she is saying.
    • Brian Russo
       
      I like the way Mr. Larue stated that children's books can deal with anything and everything, even things that may be inappropriate because it is relevant to the situation that those books are allowed at the library.
    • Brian Russo
       
      By showing that other children's books deal with issues about anything and everything it shows that all childrens books aren't always happy.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      I dont think that this paragraph is defended well at all. I am absolutely not convinced in this paragraph. Just because there are many disturbing childrens books does not make them right.
  • Even the most common fairy tales have their grim side: the father and stepmother of Hansel and Gretel, facing hunger and poverty, take the children into the woods, and abandon them to die!
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Again, she's providing specific examples--very effective. I thought it was interesting that she used an exclamation point instead of a simple period to end this statement. I think the point of it is to persuade the reader even more to listen to her. It's kind of like saying "hey, listen to this statement, it's important, and I'm completely right!"
    • Cybil Scott
       
      I love the part about the children's stories, it's so true! A great reminder to the reader to help get their point across.
    • Amanda Flores
       
      I agree with Angela. By stating these examples, he is more likely to persuade.
  • Stories help children name their fears, understand them, work out strategies for dealing with life.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      This is important in persuading the reader. She is going on further to prove her point.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Whoops, I mean he!
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Yes i agree, this was a good way to further persuade the reader.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      Nice comment!
  • So what defines a children's book is the treatment, not the topic.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      This is good that they explained what actually defines the children's book since earlier on in the piece they said that the topic wasn't what defined it.
  • In fact, I even wrote a book about it
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Ethos! He wrote a book on the topic, making the reader think that he knows what he's talking about and that he is trustworthy.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      Wow! I bet that response was a bit of a sock. I would hate to strike an argument with someone who was a professional on the subject, especially if I didn't know they were beforehand.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      The Author shows much credibility on the subject, with this sentence.
  • My Webster's actually gives several definitions of marriage: “1. the state of being married; relation between husband and wife...; 2. the act of marrying, wedding; 3. the rite or form used in marrying; 4. any close or intimate union.” Definitions 2-4, even as far back as 1960, could be stretched to include a wedding between two men. Word definitions change; legal rights change. In some parts of America, at least today, gay marriage is legal.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      This is definitely a great way to persuade the reader. He's throwing out facts from the dictionary to prove his point. And the fact that he states that definitions and legal rights change is very true. Also, stating that gay marriage is legal in some parts of the country is great. I think he did a really good job in this particular paragraph.
    • Dena Rennie
       
      I think the first definition sort of weakened his argument about gay marriage, seeing as how the first definition says "relation between husband and wife." I would have also added an updated version of Webster's definition of marriage to see if the wording has changed. He goes on to say that word definitions change, but just because you have a 1960s definition of "dog," and say that word definitions change, does not mean that that specific word's meaning will be the one that changes.
    • Amanda Flores
       
      I feel that definitions from the dictionary are a great way to prove yourself. He is telling her the facts, you can't argue with that. But I do agree with Dena. The first definition does weaken his argument.
    • Brian Russo
       
      The fact that he states that gay marriage is legal in some parts of the country, is a good point in explaining to the reader that if something is legal, they can't say that writing a book about it is inappropriate.
  • But if the library is doing its job, there are lots of books in our collection that people won't agree with; there are certainly many that I object to. Library collections don't imply endorsement; they imply access to the many different ideas of our culture, which is precisely our purpose in public life.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      This is a very good point also.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      He brings up a good point by explaining that not everyone shares the same opinions and a good bit of the material present will recieve mixed feelings.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I think it also helps that he earlier showed that he was opened to multiple views not just his own.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      Great point. The purpose of a library is to educate people. Many people go to the library for a general knowledge of many different topics. If someone personally wants to censor what they or there children read, that should be a personal decision.
    • Amanda Flores
       
      I agree with all of them, this is a great point.
    • Brian Russo
       
      He brings up a good point that he objects to certain books, but it doesn't mean that other people and cultures don't enjoy them. I also like the fact that he states that the library doesn't endorse any of the books people may deem innapropriate but they are there for people who want them.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      I think that this a good point. There are many things that are disagreeable and should be disagreeable
  • I do appreciate many things: your obvious value of reading, your frank and loving relationship with your child, your willingness to raise issues of importance to you in the public square, and more. Thank you, very much, for taking the time to raise your concerns with me.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      He is being very respectful about the whole issue.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      You do not find that to often.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      Jamie does a good job explaining his decision, while still being respectful of the womans views. I personally think this shows a reflection of his character.
    • Janice Perez Rivera
       
      this was good very persuasive.. ( it's like the old saying " kill people with kindness) she cannot get mad at the way he ended this.
    • Dena Rennie
       
      That was very reputable of Jamie to respond to the fact that the woman does care about her family and this is why she raised the issue. It shows how respectful of others he is.
    • Brian Russo
       
      I like the way he ended this on a positive note even though he didn't give the decision that the patron wanted.
    • Amanda Flores
       
      I really like how he said this. It shows that he is very respectful. I also agree with Alex, this does show the a reflection of his character.
  • I even hauled out my favorite Webster's
    • Garrett Granger
       
      I like how the author even looks into the sources provided by the individual filing the complaint. This shows that he has truly looked over the claims and is taking the issue seriously.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Yes, i agree with Garrett on this one. I like how the author looked over the source to let it be known that the author know's what he is talking about.
  • Little Red Riding Hood (in the original version, anyhow) was eaten by the wolf along with granny.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      The usage of specific examples to show that not all children's stories have happy endings is very effective.
  • But another book in our collection, “Daddy's Roommate,” was requested by a mother whose husband left her, and their young son, for another man.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      This statement shows that while some may find certain things inappropriate, the same things may be hepful to others. And in this case, a similar book proved to be a helpful tool for a different mother.
    • Brian Russo
       
      This is a valid statement. Different personal circumstances allow for different interpretations of things. What may be helpful to one person, may be innapropriate to another.
  • has spent time thinking about the context in which the library operates, and thoughtfully considered the occasional discomfort (with our culture or constituents) that might result.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      Assures the reader that their feelings have been considered. Very persuasive.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      Here, we assume that the laws and regulations have been thought over and agreed upon by a credible authority. The last sentance in this paragraph is very important. When running a public service there is always going to be someone that is unhappy. Utilitarianism is important in making these decisions, "the greatest good for the greatest number".
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      I agree with Cybil here. As I start reading this article I become more and more convinced that the Board of Trustees are a credible source.
  • Although I suspect you may not agree with my decision, I hope it's clear that I've given it a great deal of thought, and believe it is in accordance with both our guiding principles, and those, incidentally, of the founders of our nation.
  • I have been assured that you have received and viewed our relevant policies: the Library Bill of Rights, the Freedom to Read, Free Access to Libraries for Minors, the Freedom to View, and our Reconsideration Policy
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      Jamie describes the rules and regulations of public libraries here. He is building his case with firm evidence that will help the woman understand his decision.
    • Janice Perez Rivera
       
      I agree with you completely. By him bring up the rules states that he is bringing up facts. With facts behind the decision that he is making the lady can't really say that he is wrong she can only have a opinion since he has a fact.
    • Amanda Flores
       
      I agree with the both of you. You two said it all.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      This is very persuasive because the person defending the piece seems to be well educated. A good education is one of the most credibe factors concerning a person.
  • You directed me to the SarahBrannen.com site, which I also reviewed. I got a copy of “Uncle Bobby's Wedding” today, and read it.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      He shows that he is making his own decisions, and researching the topic. Jamie wants to understand why there is an issue and gain supportive evidence why he makes the decision that he does.
  • First, I think you're right that the purpose of the book is to show a central event, the wedding of two male characters, as no big thing. The emotional center of the story, of course, is Chloe's fear that she's losing a favorite uncle to another relationship. That fear, I think, is real enough to be an issue for a lot of young children.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      In making a constructive argument for a position, the sympathy of the woman is needed. Obviously she thinks strongly about her opinion, and swaying her mind is not going to be easy. Clarifying the situation in a non assertive manner is a step forward in making his case.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      In an argument it is extremely important to be able to understand the position of the other person. The Author does a great job portraying this in this paragraph.
  • His thesis is that both the purpose and power of children's literature is to help young people begin to make sense of the world.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      Making sense of the world is not an easy thing. Intorducing children to very real circumstances when they are young gives them an advantage in dealing with issues that will undoubtedly face them in their lifetime. I dont think it is how long someone can sugar coat that shapes personal opinions, but experience and informed decision making.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      Once again I am absolutely not convinced by this. This is just one mans opinion. My opinion is that children's books are supposed to be entertaining. I dont think a five year old needs to understand the world.
  • They constitute a barrier to discovery and use. The books there – and some very fine ones -- just got lost. In the second case, I believe that every book in the children's area, particularly in the area where usually the parent is reading the book aloud, involves parental guidance.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      Censorship has long been banned and for good reason. Everyone wants freedom of speech for themself, but not necesarily for others. Parents are there to give guidence, and support. Not to censor their childrens lives and introduce them to a non-existent world.
    • Brian Russo
       
      I agree with Alex on that. Even though the books involve parental guidence, it isn't the parents job to formulate their opinions by themselves. I completely agree that people want everyone else censored, but at the same time want to be able to say whatever they want. It can't work both ways.
    • Brian Russo
       
      I agree with Alex, people want censorship, but only when its not them being censored. It can't work both ways.
  • In short, most of the books we have are designed not to interfere with parents' notions of how to raise their children, but to support them.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      Why else would children books be used. They are stories that most times use fantasy and fiction to teach a lesson.
    • Brian Russo
       
      It is a good point that not all parents are looking for the same thing. One parent may want to teach their kids to accept gay people and another may teach them that its wrong and to not accept them.
  • that that kind of decision is up to the parents, not the library. Because here's the truth of the matter: not every parent has the same value system.
  • First, you believe that “the book is specifically designed to normalize gay marriage and is targeted toward the 2-7 year old age group.” Your second key concern is that you “find it inappropriate that this type of literature is available to this age
  • First, you believe that “the book is specifically designed to normalize gay marriage and is targeted toward the 2-7 year old age group.” Your second key concern is that you “find it
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      This also portrays that the Author is credible. In this paragraph the author makes clear that he understands the womens arguments about the piece. By this paragraph the lady arguing against the piece can better understand what the author has to say.
  • In Little Red Riding Hood, they learn not to talk to big bad strangers. Of course, not all children's books deal with
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      This is much more convincing. There are examples where some disturbing children books can be good.
  • The book is published by G. P. Putnam's Sons, “a division of Penguin Young Readers Group.” Th
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      This is convincing. The women can look this up to see if it is a credible source.
  • You feel that a book about gay marriage is inappropriate
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      I defenitely agree that a book about homosexuality is innaproprite for a child.
  • government was based on the idea that the purpose of the state was to preserve individual liberties, not to dictate them. The
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      This is true. People should have rights. I dont think homosexuality is wrong. I do think it is wrong though when it is put into Children's books. I think this abnormal psyche could harm youth.
  • How then, can we claim that the founders would support the restriction of access to a book that really is just about an idea, to be accepted or rejected as you choose? What harm has this book
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      How can a child make such a decision?
  • Recently, a library patron challenged (urged a reconsideration of the ownership or placement of) a book called "Uncle Bobby's Wedding.
  • ownership
  • I suspect the book will get a lot of challenges in 2008-2009. So I offer my response, purging the patron's name, for other librarians.
  • You suggested that the book could be “placed in an area designating the subject matter,” or “labeled for parental guidance” by stating that “some material may be inappropriate for young children.” I have two responses.
  • commented
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    "Recently, a library patron challenged (urged a reconsideration of the ownership or placement of) a book called "Uncle Bobby's Wedding." Honestly, I hadn't even heard of it until that complaint. But I did read the book, and responded to the patron, who challenged the item through email and requested that I respond online (not via snail-mail) about her concerns."
  •  
    Here Jamie is stating the facts that the lady stated which are extremely important because they are true.
  •  
    When Jamies states that Sara Brannen was trying to portray that gay marriage is normal.... Sara was not focusing on what was important which was the relationship between the uncle and the young person. i like the fact that he pointed that out.
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  • War, and
    • Cybil Scott
       
      perhaps a semi colon here
  • states “Just
    • Cybil Scott
       
      comma after states
  • “the ‘Constitution’s “father” James Madison”.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      ?????? too many quotations?
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  • that “no
    • Cybil Scott
       
      comma
  • stifle
    • Cybil Scott
       
      stifles
  • "false, scandalous and malicious writing or writings against the government of the United States, or either house of the Congress of the United States or the president of the United States."
    • Cybil Scott
       
      you may have to site this.
  • Michael Levin
    • Dena Rennie
       
      You need a tab here if it's a new paragraph. =)
  • as torture is justified only to save lives (not extort confessions or recantations), it is justifiably administered only to those known to hold innocent lives in their hands. Ah, but how can the authorities ever be sure they have the right malefactor? Isn't there a danger of error and abuse? Won't we turn into them?”
    • Dena Rennie
       
      I don't know if you're using MLA format or not- but you might need to site this at the end of the quote.
  • “Self-imposed silence is as debilitating to a democracy as censorship.”
    • Dena Rennie
       
      what's the source on this?
  • House Majority Leader Dick Armey
    • Dena Rennie
       
      Can you think of any other way to word that? I know that's his title, but that seems really awkward reading it.
  • t "We
    • Dena Rennie
       
      comma after *that*
  • McCullaghs
    • Dena Rennie
       
      need an apostrophe unless you're talking about more than one McCullagh.
  • In 1978
    • Dena Rennie
       
      you need a comma after the year.
    • Dena Rennie
       
      Really good work overall, your biggest problem seemed to be grammatical errors which are the easiet to make. I don't know what sort of formatting you are using, which makes it hard to judge on what you should and should not site- but other than that I think it's a really good paper. Also- if you have your works cited page ready, that would be good to post sometime soon. Depending on what format style you used, mistakes are easily made with that as well. (p.s.- sorry it's so late, these last couple of weeks have been really hectic for me and I'm trying to get caught back up in all my classes! =/ my bad!)
    • Dena Rennie
       
      also, after reading over it once again, the last half of the paper seems a little less organized than the first half. The first part flows very well, but the last couple of paragraphs seems to jump ideas a little bit. You might try rewording the first sentences of the paragraphs and that should help it.
  • f Declan McCullagh’s dissertation on the
    • Dena Rennie
       
      you might wanna site where you found out its his dissertation. I don't think I remember reading that in the article.
    • Dena Rennie
       
      I like how you positioned these two paragraphs together since they were similar articles. I felt both had a lot of similar content and made it flow very nicely.
  • cCullaghs comments somewhat mirror those of Foner’s, as he gives a brief history
    • Dena Rennie
       
      I think this statement should probably go somewhere closer to the beginning. By now after reading the paragraph, it already seems a little bit of a given.
  • In the case of the people of Omelas, the same principles that apply to the cases of the United States apply there as well. They were a simple group of people, who were not by any means barbarians or killers, but were trying to be happy, and they needed few laws. A culture in which violent is an alien factor, innocent and without the fear of crime can truly thrive without an abundance of rules and regulations.  In the cases of situations like Abu Ghraib, the notorious prison in which prisoners were regularly executed, tortured, and forced to live under the worst conditions.
    • Dena Rennie
       
      You might wanna clarify on who wrote about these subjects since you throw four names out there, and you almost always want to write as if your audience has no idea who wrote what.
  • The New Yorker
    • Dena Rennie
       
      I wanna say this should be italicized, but I'm not entirely sure. I know something should be done to distinguish it- but I am not entirely sure what.
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  • Sophist
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      The Sophists were a group of traveling teachers in Ancient Greece who were hired by citizens who were looking to become better, more persuasive teachers. Today, the term "sophistry" carries a negative connotation, as it refers to arguments that use rhetoric for malicious reasons, like to confuse or distort.
  • What is it, anyway, and why do people say such terrible things about it?
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      This comment makes me feel like rhetoric isn't such a bad thing even though I hate it.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I think the reason why people do not like rhetoric is because it is very diverse.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      Why do you hate, rhetoric?
  • truth exists in an absolute way, and the only proper use of rhetoric is to lead people to it.
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      This helps in my understanding of rhetoric and makes me want to use rhetoric to see the truth.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      I like this way of looking at rhetoric.. not just convincing people what you believe but leading them to the truth.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Also i think if you believe in what the truth stands for it makes it easier for you to bring people to it.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      It always depends on where the person wants to take you. What truth they consider to be the right one. Always worth pondering over because people get sucked in without even knowing it.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      Cybil brings up a good point here. In a world where many truths, be they religious, scientific, philosophical etc. exist for many different people, it is often the execution of rhetoric that leads people to believe in one thing over another.
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  • People should use rhetoric to try to persuade each other, so that in the end, after hearing arguments on all sides of a question, they might arrive at the best course of action.
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      This is a good way to look at rhetoric. It gives me a new perspective on it.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I think this is one of the best explanations of rhetoric i have seen so far.
    • Bob The Builder
       
      Using rhetoric to persuade each other is an excellent idea because it helps make an answer to a question more objective and it reduces any biases.
  • Anyone who has lived with a cat or a dog can think of numerous ways these animals practice rhetoric in Kennedy's sense -- exert rhetorical energy -- to express their feelings and to get humans to do what they want.
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      I never thought of rhetoric being used by animals but now that is explained to me, I guess I could see where it is possible!
    • Charlotte Randolph
       
      I would have never thought about animals using rhetoric. I found it very interesting that they would use it in such a simple way. They convey what they need throught their sounds and actions.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Wow, i never thought of an animal using rhetoric to make sense. My dog will get his leashe when he has to go out or when hes hungry he will put his head on my leg while i am sitting down. Also he eats around the same time everyday and he will start following me around and pacing back and forth till i get him his food.
    • Brandon Cruz
       
      My dog does many of the same things. So really, rhetoric is communication. If we did not have a need to express different ideas we would not need language.
    • Bob The Builder
       
      When I read the line above that states "rhetoric is manifext in all animal life..." I thought that sounded ridiculous. But by reading this line, I now understand what they are talking about and, in fact, it seems very true.
  • Even when rhetors do not intend to persuade outright, still they must be concerned with their credibility
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      Thinking about this comment, I reflect back to when I speak to my friends and pretty much anyone and I realize that in some way or another I am always trying to persuade them of something. Even when I don't realize it!
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      Yes. And I'd like you to carry this idea to the papers you write for this class. You'll want to pay careful attention to whom the intended audience is, and then make your own rhetorical writing decisions based on what you know about that audience's expectations.
  • [R]hetoric is inoperative when the audience lacks the power to respond freely to the message
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      This is so true! If you are trying to persuade someone to be on your team, but they are already on your team, then why are you trying to persaude them?
    • Sean McMillan
       
      This statement solidifies the importance of the audience when it comes to rhetoric. You could have the best argument in the world, but without the right audience it could be meaningless.
  • Asian writing is more likely to spiral on itself, reiterating ideas in various ways. Many students who come to us from foreign countries have to learn not only to speak and write in English, but also to follow the rhetorical conventions of a foreign culture.
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      I never knew this. Interesting fact!
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I had no idea. Must be tough!
    • Sean McMillan
       
      you don't really think of rhetoric as being any different from any other language or culture. I guess it's all relative.
    • Brandon Cruz
       
      I couldn't imagine going to study in China and having to write like that. Hats off to the students over here.
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      This is an awesome paragraph and really helps to describe what its like being immersed in something you don't know and how we still use what we learn after we are not involved in it anymore!
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      These two paragraphs help me with understanding alot about rhetoric and how to use it!
  • Everyone practices rhetoric
    • Angela Moneck
       
      This entire section of the work makes it more clear how everyone uses rhetoric. When I think of rhetoric, I just think of advertisers and authors who use it to persuade their audiences, but I really didn't realize how much we use rhetoric until you see an example like the dog and cat example in the sixth paragraph.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      It's kind of exhausting when we think about all the rhetoric we see on a daily basis. Especially in advertisiing!!!
    • Bob The Builder
       
      This is an excellent title for a section because, while most of us do not realize it, we all do practice rhetoric on a daily basis. Because its such a broad topic, people dont realize how often it is used.
  • The rhetoric is a kind of smoke screen, or a trick with mirrors meant to deceive.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I like this metaphor. It makes the story a little bit more interesting. I don't feel like I'm just reading something out of a textbook when I read this. It makes me want to read further to understand exactly what they are trying to say.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      I agree with Angela about liking this metaphor. So many people think that rhetoric is a "trick..meant to decieve" but really they probably use it all the time without even noticing.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Yeah i really like this metaphor also, and i agree with the second comment i dont think alot of people realize how often they use it.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      I think this comment is very accurate. Sure, people may not realize how often they use this technique, but when in use, rhetoric helps to steer the listeners opinions in the speakers direction.
  • the emotional energy that impels the speaker to speak, the physical energy expended in the utterance, the energy level coded in the message, and the energy experienced by the recipient in decoding the message.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I really like the way this was put-it makes me think further into what he means.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      I love this. It's such a huge statement on the basis of the world, and in philosophy. Talking about energy and the way it comes through people is another subject altogether.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I like the way that he put this-it really makes me tihnk further into what he's saying.
  • Put another way, rhetoric is a way to affirm values and hopefully avoid armed conflict: it's better that people work out their differences with words rather than with swords or guns.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      It would be nice if that could always work and we could avoid wars and other conflicts!
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Yeah i agree, wouldn't it be nice to bring some troops home or had a couple of wars and such avoided?
    • Cybil Scott
       
      Wow. If we could work stuff out by just using words, wouldn't the world be quite a different place!! There's only one requirement though, everyone would have to be educated and intelligent. So until then, if we're gonna be dumb we gotta be tough.
    • Brandon Cruz
       
      I wish the world would work like this. I feel that people today are so concerned with being "right" that they forget to try look at all of the angles my self included. Many of are just so stubburn that we will never be able to think this way.
  • But the domain has shifted many times in subsequent ages.
  • Even when rhetors do not intend to persuade outright, still they must be concerned with their credibility; with what their audiences already know and needs to know; with how their audiences are likely to feel about the subject; with how to begin, how to end, how to arrange the middle -- all these and more, to earn the greatest possible cooperation from their readers.
  • In the academic community we would do well, all of us, faculty and students, to think of ourselves as rhetors -- even as rhetoricians, students of rhetoric. Because in some ways we are.
    • Charlotte Randolph
       
      I think this is very true because we use rhetoric in papers we right in school to convince the readers of what we are discussing. Faculty uses rhetoric to persuade their colleagues and students almost every day.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I think at some point everyone uses rhetoric probably once a day if not once a week to try and get something across.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      Again, I have to agree with this statement. As college students, we use rhetoric everyday to try and prove ourselves. More specifically, logos is used almost everyday at the university level.
  • Discourse that affects an audience, that informs, moves, delights, and teaches, has a rhetorical aim. . . . Rhetoric implies choices, for both the speaker or writer and the audience. When we practice rhetoric we make decisions about our subject, audience, point of view, purpose, and message. . . . Furthermore, the audience must have a choice in responding to the message, must be able to adopt, modify, or reject it.
    • Charlotte Randolph
       
      I liked this paragraph because I think it is very true, when we practice rhetoric we are making a decision about what we want to convince our audience of and how to do it. At the same time the audience makes the desision of how to take the information and accept it or not. This is really evident in a debate, because you as the speaker make the decision of how to convince your audience and they in return decide how they will respond to it.
  • Hitler's Germany
    • Cybil Scott
       
      Hitler was indeed a truly evil person with a hidden agenda who exterminated over 6 million people. Unfortuantely, as many people realized he was a very skilled public speaker. He was popular for a reason. He was extremely good at persuasion and making people think what he was accomplishing was good for the nation as a whole. This is where the danger lies. One always has to think critically and see beyond the rhetoric.
    • Vincent DiDomenico
       
      I agree with Cybil. Rhetoric is, as Hitler has proven, a powerful form of persuasion. We must always remember, however, that it is just that--a method of persuasion.
  • winning
    • Cybil Scott
       
      A mind-set that many people should change. It's never about being right or winning for the sake of winning.
  • Speech would not have evolved among human beings unless rhetoric already existed
    • Cybil Scott
       
      So philosophical and deep. I could debate on this for hours!
    • Garrett Granger
       
      This is a very interesting statement. It seems very possible that it could, in fact be true. If we accepted everything we were told, there would be no reason to respond when spoken to, except for a gesture of acceptance.
  • Ethos: how can I establish credibility, to show I've "done my homework" on the subject I'm writing about? What face should I present to the reader: that of a student? a professional in training (Word Works #55-56)? Pathos: who are the audiences for the writing? What can I assume the audiences already know and feel about the subject (#76, 77)? Logoi: how can I make sure my information is complete and my arguments logical (#78)?
    • Bob The Builder
       
      Because i often confuse ethos, pathos and logos, these questions are great examples to distinguish one from the others. It is especially useful because these are questions we (the students) constantly ask ourselves.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      I agree that these examples of the types of rhetoric helped me distinguish between the three! Every time I write a paper or just an informal writing assignment I ask myself many of these same questions.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Yes i also often get the three confused but these examples helped out big time!
  • "How `true' is a truth if you can't get anybody to accept it?"
    • Sean McMillan
       
      very good quote. Sad but true. Just because your speaking the truth doesn't mean there isn't someone else with a better argument.
  • he took the domain of rhetoric to be uncertainty and probability, particularly in the law courts and the deliberations of democratic government
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      This is important because rhetoric is only as trustworthy as the speaker.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      I think that this is looking at rhetoric from one perspective, however I think that rhetoric can also be used as a good thing. Helping people make the right decisions, not necesarilly a "trick with mirrors"
    • Sean McMillan
       
      very true, rhetoric can be used to just inform. It's not always used to just trick or persuade. Its a good way to pass on information.
  • In fact, rhetoric is manifest in all animal life and existed long before the evolution of human beings.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      This is a good observation applying the notion of rhetoric not only to humans but to all living things. Wolves for example have a very strict hierarchy that is strictly regulated. The leaders in these poeitions utilize body language and strength, along with experience. Which is all a part of rhetoric.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      Great comparison, Alex. Thanks.
  • Rhetoric has always been a tool that can serve either good or evil,
    • Sean McMillan
       
      This statement clarifies that rhetoric can and does get used in situations when the authors not necessarily right. As stated before with the hitler reference, someone with a good understanding of their audience and rhetoric can do some harmful things.
  • People moving from one culture to another must cross not only a language barrier, but also a cultural barrier -- part of which is rhetorical.
    • Dena Rennie
       
      This is undoubtedly true. To give another example like the one listed below here. Being a sign language interpreting major, here is a cultural barrier problem I have seen. In Deaf culture, Deaf and hard of hearing individuals value directness and being blunt about subjects. If you have put on a little weight, it is nothing for a Deaf person to sign HEY YOU LOOK DIFFERENT, BEFORE THIN NOW FAT HAPPEN? (cultural note, that is ASL syntax, i couldn't really add the facial grammar glosses- but that would be the basic sign order. Prepositions and conjuctions are usually implied) This may be very difficult to accept for a person who is not associated or well-versed with the Deaf community because one may think they are being rude, when really that is how the cultural as a whole is. I have noticed sometimes Deaf and hard of hearing people get frustrated sometimes with people who beat around the bush because they feel that the person that they are communicating with is trying to hide something. This sometimes causes problems, especially if the interpreter forgets to interpret the cultural differences (which happens upon occassion).
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      An absolutely fascinating comment, Dena. Those of us who are not hearing impaired know that without body language it is often difficult to communicate clearly. For people who depend wholly on body language, it is even more important. Thanks for sharing.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I think you made a really good point with your example. When I think of different cultures, I think of someone who maybe lives in Europe compared to the United States, but your example opened my eyes to a differnt way in looking at cultures. :)
  • Cultures vary over space and over time.
  • Cultures vary over space and over time. What was true of rhetoric for the ancient Greeks and Romans is not necessarily true for us.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      This is a very true statement. Culture affects many different aspects of our lives, so I can definitely see that it would affect how rhetoric is viewed. Even someone from a different culture today may not see the same rhetoric as we see.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      I find it interesting how this statement suggests our form of rhetoric is different from the Greek and Roman forms, when we still classify rhetoric based on Aristotle's three appeals.
  • the shock of entering the "Burkean parlor."
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I really like this phrase and it's explaination, a lot. I've learned about culture shock in many of my classes, but seeing it in this way makes it so much more clear to me how difficult it must be for a person coming from one culture to enter into a competely different culture and have to adjust to the customs of the new culture without knowing basically anything about the culture ahead of time. One of the things they have to adjust to is the rhetoric of the culture.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      This really is an interesting way of puting that cultural barrier into perspective for those of us who have never been forced to experiance is.
  • However, the discussion is interminable. The hour grows late, you must depart. And you do depart, with the discussion still vigorously in progress.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      This part, to me, goes with the fact that culture changes all the time. When the person enters the conversation, it is impossible for them to catch up in every single bit of the discussion, and when they leave, the discussion is still going on, making it impossible to know the entire rest of the conversation. It is, in a way, saying that it's impossible to know every single bit of a culture because it is ever-changing.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      Such is life.
  • The "Burkean parlor" might be taken as a parable for a lot of things: for entering the culture of a different country (as many of our students have done), for entering college or a new job, perhaps for life itself.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Before reading this sentence, I only thought of a person being entered into a new culture from a differnt country, but now I know that it can mean many different tihngs.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I also interpreted it as say going to a new country for the first time but it is now easy to understand how it can mean different things.
  • When we study the organization and style of journal articles and conference presentations in order to write and speak in a similar or different manner, we are being rhetoricians. When we teach our students how to write in the discipline, how to handle the conventions of subject matter, arrangement, language, format, and documentation, we are being rhetoricians.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      This is another example of how rhetoric can be used in every day life.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      I think we are rhetoricians all the time; when we speak to someone else that is. I don't think we can be rhetorical to ourselves.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I said it earlier and this makes sense to me also, i think people especially teenagers use rhetoric everday.
    • Sean McMillan
       
      rhetoric is definatley everywhere. It's used from trying to decide where to eat dinner to matters of national security. Rhetoric is a skill set that can help anyone in life.
  • A year later the student happens across the original article, reads it again easily, and wonders, What was so hard about that?
  • A year later the student happens across the original article, reads it again easily, and wonders, What was so hard about that?
    • Meghan Winn
       
      This is definatly something that has happened to me before! Whether it's a new subject in school or just something I happen to be interested in, the first few times I look into it I have no idea what they are talking about but later on it seems so easy!
  • A student (and that could be any of us) tries to read a journal article in an unfamiliar field. It could be in physiology, education psychology, rhetorical theory. The student struggles with the article, rereads paragraphs, writes notes all over the margins trying to understand the gist of what's being said.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      I could be completely misinterpreting this, but I think that it would be the content of what is being discussed that causes the confusion, not rhetoric. I understand that there are many forms of rhetoric, but don't they all have the same purpose? In some way or another, rhetoric persuades and informs. Again, I could be looking at this the wrong way. I'm interested in seeing other thoughts on this topic.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      When someone thinks to hard about anything they make it more complicated that it is. Creativity and clarity usually comes when you least expect it, or when you are not thinking, and this should be applied to everything. Quietness of mind.
  • For instance, two of the main "arts" or rhetoric, memory and delivery, have taken entirely new forms in this age of word processing and desktop publishing.
    • Brandon Cruz
       
      This is interesting to think about. Instead of us being able to write and re-write something to make it more rhetorically sound, ancient Greeks only had one opportunity, while speaking, to get it right.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      This is interesting, as I discussed last week anything that stays around for a while has to evolve, and adapt to the times.
  • Aristotle taught that there are many areas of human experience where the truth is hard or impossible to determine
    • Bob The Builder
       
      I've learned that this is very true. It goes back to the old saying that not everything is in black and white. We often find ourselves in the gray area.
  • Some of the most dramatic scenes are those in which the characters attempt to persuade other characters: Agamemnon's disastrous attempt to rally the troops; Nestor, Ajax, and Odysseus trying to persuade Achilles to rejoin the battle; Hera seducing Zeus to distract him from the war; Priam persuading Achilles to give up the body of Hector.
    • Bob The Builder
       
      This line caught my eye because many of these stories, such as Zeus, Odysseus and Achilles, were taught to us when we were younger and, at the time, we never knew that rhetoric was being used.
  • Another assumption behind the slogan "cut through all the rhetoric" is that rhetoric is only what certain people use, such as politicians and orators, and they only use it on certain occasions.
    • Bob The Builder
       
      I think this assumption is often made because it is such a broad topic that most people do not understand what is considered rhetoric.
  • Even the writer of a parts list has to decide on nomenclature, arrangement, and the appearance of the list on the page or computer screen for the greatest clarity -- all rhetorical decisions.
    • Bob The Builder
       
      This is a good example of how the simplest writing, such as a list, uses rhetoric.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I don't know why but some things seem to get alot more complicated when you start thinking rhetorically.
  • Also, Westerners want their writing (not in all genres, but in exposition and argument) to drive forward, from beginning to end, in a linear fashion.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      American's are very to the point when looking at accomplishing goals. Sometimes a little bit to much and it hurts us. However this also why we are number 1. Rhetoric is definitely a clutural aspect as it fluctuates. Rhetoric really is devided into many different ways, depending on who is trying to be convinced. Rhetoric is constantly changing and must be in order to be used effectively.
  • But all of us function as rhetoricians
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      This is a great example. Teachers are people that we look up to, and expect to understand the topic at hand. We put our faith in their history, and knowledge in that specific topic to help us understand better.
  • In fact, we would do well to think of most of our communication as rhetoric, as a series of decisions and strategies for earning the cooperation of our audience.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      This is exactly what rhetoric is compacted in one sentance. Very good brief description I think.
    • Sean McMillan
       
      I agree, great wording. It helps cement the face that rhetoric isn't just some overblown academic technique, but a instinctual ability that you've been honing since childhood.
  • Today, many rhetoricians argue that most speech and virtually all writing must be regarded as not only rhetorical, but as persuasive in some important ways.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      I think it is interesting to see how how writing and speech have been viewed throughout history. From the Ancients to current day Rhetoric has been looked at in many ways. I dont agree with most rhetoricians today who argue that most speech today is Rhetorical. The main purpose of a speech in my opinion is not to persuade but to motivate.
  • The student has been initiated into the discourse community and is getting ready to join the conversation.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      If a person wants to be good at anything the key word is practice. The student referred to in this paragraph was completely lost in the beginning but soon the tasks ahead of him became simple. This is because of his dedication and practice. The same can be applied to rhetoric. In order to give a good persuasive speech one must practice practice and practice some more. Rhetoric is more than just language its a art.
    • Sean McMillan
       
      practice is definatley important. The more you practice rhetoric no matter how foreign it may seem at first, the better you become. And the better you become the more persuasive or informative your argument can be.
  • It might be interesting, too, to think of our students' writing as rhetoric, and help them understand it as rhetoric.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      Once again I dont think all writing should be looked at as rhetoric. Most writing should not be rhetoric in my opinion.
  • In the Middle Ages, rhetoric was concerned with sermons and letter- writing. In the Renaissance, its domain was extended to poetry and all else that we call "creative" writing. During the Enlightenment, rhetoricians and natural philosophers studied the role of language and rhetoric in the making of scientific knowledge.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      It is interesting to see how the view of rhetoric changes with the changing of culture.
  • Anyone who has lived with a cat or a dog can think of numerous ways these animals practice rhetoric in Kennedy's sense -- exert rhetorical energy -- to express their feelings and to get humans to do what they want.
  • Rhetoric implies choices, for both the speaker or writer and the audience. When we practice rhetoric we make decisions about our subject, audience, point of view, purpose, and message. . . . Furthermore, the audience must have a choice in responding to the message, must be able to adopt, modify, or reject it. . . . [R]hetoric is inoperative when the audience lacks the power to respond freely to the message
    • Dena Rennie
       
      This is very true (I accidentally read too far last week so now I'm switching since I wrote on the latter half last assignment). Rhetoric is about choices for both parties. The speaker/writer chooses the direction they wish to persuade their audience to feel, and hope that they choose to accept that direction. This is seen everywhere, but as the Presidential Debates are going on as I write this in the background, we will use this an example. McCain and Obama are both posing their choices tonight. They are posing their strategies which choices should be made about our country. Each of them discuss their point of view, and why it is important to them why do carry things out in such a way. We, as the audience, whether watching on TV or at the debates- will make a choice after the are finished (or maybe even before they are finished). Those choices could be to support Obama, McCain, or we can choose to support neither and simply not vote as neither, one may feel, is truly qualified. Even if you don't want to make a choice, eventually you will. And the beauty of this great country is that you're free to choose any of these options. In countries where freedom of speech or choice of how you will place your vote is obsolete- there really is no use for rhetoric, because you lack the power to respond to the messages they give. We might as well put the two names in a hat and draw for President without the power to respond. This is why I'm glad I live in America. We have the choice to respond to rhetoric. We still have most of our liberties that allow us a voice, a number of countries in the world don't have as they under communist rule.
  •  
    Rhetoric has been around for thousands of years, and the reason why is because it evovles to better suit the times. It is almost a fundamental ellemant of what rhetoric is. What possibly would have persuaded someone thousands of years ago possibly would interest us today. The way we speak and persuade has changed, and that is a part of the evolution of rhetoric.
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  •  
    Even when rhetors do not intend to persuade outright, still they must be concerned with their credibility; with what their audiences already know and needs to know; with how their audiences are likely to feel about the subject; with how to begin, how to end, how to arrange the middle -- all these and more, to earn the greatest possible cooperation from their readers.
  •  
    Rhetoric, like most things has a formula, an equation that if performed correctly achieves the goal of persuasion and credibility.
  •  
    Even when rhetors do not intend to persuade outright, still they must be concerned with their credibility; with what their audiences already know and needs to know; with how their audiences are likely to feel about the subject; with how to begin, how to end, how to arrange the middle -- all these and more, to earn the greatest possible cooperation from their readers.
Dena Rennie

Project 2 rough draft - 0 views

shared by Dena Rennie on 06 Nov 08 - Cached
  • Works Cited
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Good job with the Works Cited and annotated bibliography.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      My floating sticky notes aren't working again, so here is my conventions critique: Conventions- The only thing I noticed was a small amount of spelling errors and that the in text MLA citations are missing. Otherwise, good job. Especially on the works cited and annotated bibliography.
    • Dena Rennie
       
      Make sure if you use MLA works cited, that you use MLA paper sourcing as well. And usually you need an extra space between sources in MLA works cited, it also makes it a lot easier to read the sources.
  • different
    • Angela Moneck
       
      You've used the work "different' four times in two sentences. You could substitute this word with another word to make it more interesting.
  • He also,
    • Angela Moneck
       
      A comma is not needed there.
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  • throught he
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Speling error.
  • Also, he appeals to the veryday people with comments like that on his website that say, “I’m asking you to believe, not just in my ability to bring about real change in Washington… I’m asking you to believe in yours.”
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Good quote.
    • Dena Rennie
       
      everyday is missing an e
  • Also, there is John McCain who has been around the presidential election process before. He has ran for President before and did not make it past primary elections. He was a part of the U.S. House of Represenatives for Arizona in 1982, and was elected to the U.S. Senate in 1986. He is someone who has been around the hustle and bustle of the Washington lifestyle. He is someone who, it would be thought, would be ready for the highest position in our country. His platform has included helping out our economy and ensuring our national security. He wants to get health care costs down to a price that is reasonable for all people. One thing that McCain differs from Obama on is the issue of Iraq. McCain believes we need to assist Iraq in becoming a prosperous country on its own, before we can back out and leave them alone.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I like how you introduced each candidate. It makes the paper flow much better.
  • McCain’s written rhetoric can be seen on his website where he describes how he plans to change our country. His main ideas and what he stands for are clear to see there. It says “Country First: Reform, Prosperity, Peace.”
    • Angela Moneck
       
      This paragraph is very short. It's a good point, but I think you can go into it further. You could do this by possibly giving another example.
    • Dena Rennie
       
      This paragraph's length makes it one of the weaker points of the essay. It starts off with a good transition, but there is no evidence to support that what he stands for on issues.
  • Each candidate uses rhetoric to appeal to their potential voters. They both use Pathos to appeal to their audiences. They appeal to the middle class by promising a change in the way they have lived their lives, by lowering taxes and getting more affordable healthcare. Obama appeals to the minorities saying that it is their time to take a stand and get out and vote, telling them that they can make a difference. Ethos is a big part of politics, because if we have no confidence in what they have stood for in the past how can we back them now. A person’s reputation is key in politics, especially in the Presidential election. This is the time when scandals become forefront, because each party is trying to discredit the other. If we aren’t confident in the person how can we be confident in the policies. Logos is used, although I’m not sure always effectively. Politicians use logic to appeal to people saying how things in our country are now and how they believe they can change them in the future. For instance, logically if we are in a state of economic crisis we want someone who plans to change that for the better.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I see where you're going with this paragraph, but I'm not sure if it's effective. I think that you need to explain individually in the paragraphs exactly what is an example of pathos, what is an example of ethos, and so on. Otherwise, I think it would be hard for people, especially people who don't completely understand rhetoric, to be able to figure out what is an example of which one.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Organization-Your organization was good and clear. With the exception of the conclusion, I wouldn't change anything.
    • Dena Rennie
       
      Your organization between candidates is good, but I would probably discuss the rhetoric each candidate uses within the paragraphs in which you discuss the candidates. It would help the paper flow a little better and possibly help improve your transitions between candidates even stronger.
    • Dena Rennie
       
      And I agree with Angela, you should most definitely have evidence to backup what rhetoric method each uses. Also there are very little references in this paper to sources, which you definitely need to make sure you use. This is a really good paper and I would hate to see you lose points due to possible plagarism. Even when you paraphrase you need to cite your source.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Assignment parameters- I thnk your main idea is conveyed effectively. I feel that your purpose is clear and easy to understand.
  • adamentaly
    • Dena Rennie
       
      I could be wrong but I think this is misspelled.
  • different
    • Dena Rennie
       
      Try finding another word besides different, it has popped up quite a few times within the first paragraph, and it's a little overload. Usually you don't want to use a specific word more than two times within a paragraph (three if it's a very large paragraph, definitely no more than that)
  • Election
    • Dena Rennie
       
      Election doesn't need to be capitalized
  • There has been much debate about the candidates for this year’s election.
    • Dena Rennie
       
      This first sentence seems a little awkwardly worded.
  • bama’s Written rhetoric is clear in
    • Dena Rennie
       
      1) Written doesn't need to be capitlized. 2) This paragraph seems like it stops short. It feels there should be more depth to it. One example is easily to manipulate into saying that "well that's just a one time thing, he did this some other time." The more examples you have, the stronger your argument will be. =)
  • McCain uses visual rhetoric in his speeches and debates as well. H
    • Dena Rennie
       
      Same thing applies here as the paragraph above. The more examples you have, the stronger your argument. Make sure you have reputable sources as well.
Angel Aramayo

Angela Moneck - 0 views

  • news-just
    • Garrett Granger
       
      Maybe use a comma here.
  • issues coming
    • Garrett Granger
       
      ...issues, and come together...
  • their opinions out there
    • Garrett Granger
       
      Maybe reword this. Something like, "to express their opinions."
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  • The online community I chose to analyze is called Care 2 (Make a Difference). This community fights for several different causes including human rights, the environment, health care, animal welfare, and education.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      I'm not sure the first sentence is totally necessary. Maybe you could incorporate the name of the online community in the beginning of the second sentence.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      yes i agree that the name of what you are supporting should standout and be in the beginning of your paper.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      I don't think the word "that" is necessary, and can be eliminated in most cases.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      Be sure to add parenthetical documentation after quotes.
  • I signed a petition called “Stop segregating with colors.”
    • Garrett Granger
       
      Try not to start consecutive sentences with the same words.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      As garrett said starting the sentence with the same beginning words makes it seem repetitive.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I think the paper is pretty good. a few minor mistakes that you find in every first draft. I think the flow of the paper is pretty good. a few repetitive statements but other than that i think it is pretty good. also i would start incoporating or introducing your topic or your website a little earlier in the paper, like the first or second paragraphs.
Garrett Granger

First Draft - 23 views

Here is the link to view my first draft: http://docs.google.com/a/mail.usf.edu/Doc?id=dfnk558c_0fnxjq8fz

started by Garrett Granger on 11 Oct 08 no follow-up yet
Cybil Scott

First thoughts: Guns of September - First Read - msnbc.com - 0 views

  • But in the August NBC/WSJ poll, McCain led Obama significantly among non-college whites (51%-33%) but narrowly among college-educated whites (46%-43%). The GOP presidential nominee improved those college numbers in the most recent NBC/WSJ poll (to 51%-43%), but that’s still below Bush’s numbers in October 2004.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      This is an example of ethos because the argument is mostly driven by what people think of the candidates reputation. There are poll numbers and percentages, because all the candidates want you to choose them because they think they are the best one for the job. This argument relies on values, the idea of change, race, and other sensitive issues that apply to one party or the other. Around this time of year when there are elections we are bombarded by ethos, combined with pathos and attempts at logos.
Alex Gutierrez

Free the Airwaves - 0 views

    • Ryan Meehan
       
      Read through the argument presented by Google here and assess the approach the author or authors have taken in order to be persuasive. Is there anything regarding the presentation of their argument that stands out to you? Feel free to "highlight and comment" on specific excerpts (as you did last week with "What are you good at?") OR you may choose to leave a "floating sticky note" anywhere on the page by clicking the drop down arrow next to "Comment" and choosing "Add a floating sticky note to this page." Additionally, you may choose to respond to a comment already written by one of your classmates. Should you choose this approach, please note that simply agreeing or disagreeing is not sufficient. You must explain why.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      This is a great discussion...
  • can't even be imagined today.
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      I think this is a good way to get people interested in what they are proposng. They are drawing people in by saying that the benefits are so great you can't even imagine them.
    • Brandon Cruz
       
      Agreed. This even gets me excited! It makes me wonder what kind of technology could they come up with. Everyone loves technology (well almost everyone) and this statement jumpstarts reader's minds to think of the cool new things they could be using if only they would use those airways.
  • but for society in general
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      This approach is preetty successful in my opinion. They are saying it is necessary for society. I feel this approach gets the attention of many different audiences in many different ways.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Not only do i think they are saying it is a necessity for society, i think they are trying to say that it is right for everyone. All 3 levels of the economic society.
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  • crucial
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      Using words like this makes me want to sign the petition simply because it sounds so important and urgent.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Yes i agree, crucial is definately one of those words that stick out when you read them.
  • Make no mistake
  • Make no mistake
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      I think using phrases that most people know helps their cause because it makes most people feel comfortable.
  • public interest here is paramount
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      There is the whole "good for society" bit again. I'm not saying that it is or isn't good for society, but comments like these repeated over and over sure makes it seem that way!
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I have gotten the impression over the years that anything that is really good for the society has some sort of flaw in it and they come out sooner or later. But i do agree that when i keep seeing the fact that they are trying to please everyone it does keep me intuned.
  • vast unused
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      Words like these make the space seem unlimited. These words make me feel as if there are no problems with using the space and even if there were problems, there is so much that it wouldn't matter anyway!
  • far lower cell phone and Internet access bills
    • Charlotte Randolph
       
      When soemthing like this is said, it really catches my attention, I mean who doesn't want lower bills!
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I definately agree, with the way the economy is and not knowing if it is going to get better. Who would not want to save some extra cash.
  • far lower cell phone and Internet access bills.
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      This comment makes me want to sign the petition for the sheer fact that I will be saving money!
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      They didn't provide any information on what this will do to the environment, if anything at all. Just thought I'd mention that!
  • public interest here is paramount
    • Charlotte Randolph
       
      Comments like this get people's attention. It makes me think, wow they are thinking of what is best for me and the rest of the public.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      This is going to make an incredible amount of money when everyone has to switch over to digital cable, because EVERYONE who watches TV will have to.
    • Natassia Watson
       
      It would be great if this wireless revolution ever came to pass but not just because we would all save a lot of money. I also think that in the same way that everyone in the entire country has access to some form of TV even if they don't have cable we should all have free access to the internet. There are still a considerable amount of Americans who don't have regular internet access and so for them this could really be life changing.
  • broadcast in digital only starting in 2009
    • Cybil Scott
       
      This is going to make an incredible amount of money when people switch over to digital cable. EVERYONE who watches TV will be required to.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I did not necessarily think that this switch was going to affect everyone. I thought it was only going to affect those who still had standard cable. What about for people that have Satellite? or for People that have the Verizon Fios? Alot of companies offer pretty cheap starter plans and special promotional packages,and make you sign a contract and get you that way so you can't go anywhere. Anyone know if it for sure is affecting everyone?
    • Brian Russo
       
      You are correct it will only affect people who have standard cable. If you have satellite or even a television with a built in digital tuner you will be unaffected. While in my opinion, google is only trying to persuade the readers to sign their petition so that they can make more money, they also appeal to the readers by saying that it will save them money on their internet and phone bills, which is an extremely effective way to grab the readers attention. Who doesn't want to save money? I didn't know that so much of the "white space" isn't being used, nor did I know what "white space" was, but the fact that they explain just how much isn't been used catches the readers attention. They say that freeing the white spaces is "crucial" to the future of the internet. Using words like crucial makes it seem even more important and urges readers to sign the petition.
    • Sean McMillan
       
      This helps to establish a connection with the reader. By them stating this will help their company but then go on to explain that it's not their driving force helps comfort the reader.
    • Denise Sanchez
       
      I agree with Sean. Google addresses the fact that they will profit from the use of free "white spaces." Their honesty towards the public does create a sense of comfort and trust. To further support their position, they present the readers with benefits they would acquire such as lower prices on phone bills and internet access.
  • better access to the Internet
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      When something as already as good as the internet that is used just about everyday can be improved, who wouldn't want that? Throwing in phrases like this, especially if they are true, really catch my interest.
    • Bob The Builder
       
      Access to the internet is already remarkable, I can barely imagine how much more it could improve. If they were to "free the airwaves", web opportunities would greatly improve society.
  • signing our petition
    • Dena Rennie
       
      After reading the petition, I believe that this is a good idea. In the area where I grew up in Illinois, if you do not live in town, it is almost impossible to get high speed internet. My sister lives 10 miles outside of the town in which we grew up and she can only get a dial-up connection. Also, speaking from experience where you are doing an immense amount of research for a class project- a wireless high speed connection in the classroom is a saving grace for those students whose only access to the internet may be limited to what they have at school.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      I agree, I came from a really small town where it would have been amazing to have wireless internet, or even anything above dial-up. I just didn't have the patience to even experience the internet because it took forever. Once I came and lived in the city I didn't know how I survived before. I think it would be quite an amazing thing for everyone to have acess to the internet in this sort of way.
    • Brandon Cruz
       
      I agree as well. This would also give people who can't afford internet better access to it, especially for school.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      Great discussion...
  • Three-fourths of the white spaces are completely unused today
    • Bob The Builder
       
      Stating the fact that only a quarter of the white spaces are used was an excellent way to start off their argument. Society has done so many excellent things with just this small portion of white space, imagine what can be done with the other three quarters.
    • Hinal Patel
       
      After doing a little research on what "white spaces" were, it is amazing that three-fourths of them are unused. I think this opportunity will make wireless much more efficient. I agree with the point above because using this fact is truly a great way to start the argument because it gets the readers attention. It may seem a little hectic to switch to total wireless, but with all the other options given, the switch seems like nothing.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      Example comment...
    • Angela Moneck
       
      The article uses many different, and effective, ways to draw the reader in and to persuade them. The first paragraph states that a wireless revolution could be reached including "numerous new products and services." This is an effective way to draw readers in and make them want to continue reading. I mean, who doesn't want to be exposed to all these new and exciting products and services? They state two different times that they would like the reader to make their opinion heard-in the last paragraph, and also in the paragraph in which they say, "we hope you'll add your voice…by signing our petition." This can also be an effective way to persuade the reader because they are not only saying it once, but twice. The reader may feel important after "making [their] voices heard." They are honest about why they "care" about the issue and later state that they are not trying to speak for individuals other than themselves, but they are just trying to explain why they believe it is so crucial. This is persuasive in a way because it allows the reader to trust them. Also, the word "urge," although a small word, has a big meaning-it makes the reader feel like it is urgent to do what they are telling them to do.
  • far from certain
    • Cybil Scott
       
      I think the use of this phrase emphasizes the argument that the other option is better and faster.
  • We hope that once you've explored the facts for yourself, you'll want to make your voice heard
    • Garrett Granger
       
      The authors at Google do a great job of grabbing the reader's attention by speaking of the technological advances that would result from the global accessibility of "white spaces." The promise of technological progression is appealing for good reason. Advancements in modern technology are taking place at a mind-blowing rate, and people are excited to see what the future has to offer. Google makes an attempt to form a relationship with the reader by suggesting that they are teaming up with multiple companies to benefit not only themselves, but "society in general." This gives the reader the impression that Google shares the same views and supports similar causes. Google really gets people excited when they mentioning the words "lower" and "bills" in the same sentence. The thought of saving money really grabs people's attention, which is probably why this information was presented at the end of the article. The art of grabbing onto the reader and leaving them with a good impression was well executed in this article.
  • to the future of the Internet
    • Brandon Cruz
       
      It's more like it's crucial to the profit increase of Google. Not that I'm against it but this whole article is trying to pursuade us to to sign this petition so Google can get more hits and way more money. It's just funny how they make it sound like they "care" so much. Like I said, though, I will proabably sign it.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      I think the writers of this article did a very good job pursuading their readers that this change would be in their best interest. First of all it is very informative and tells you what the "white spaces" are and what would be accomplished by making them more available for use. After reading this people will want to know more about the "new products and services" and also about the "future of the internet" and the "far lower cell phone and internet bills." All of the techniques used were very pursuasive and made you trust their opinion.
  • more people doing web searches and using our software products
    • Jonathon Ellington
       
      I feel that this is ultimatly a capitalist venture that is relitivly unconcerned with its users. Google is just trying to forward their agenda and monopolize the internet. Huge profits for them, and what will this give us the consumer? Less of a wait time for mindless distraction on sites such as facebook and online games.
  • kick-start a revolution in wireless technology,
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      I think this is amazing. It is just another step towards becoming more technological. I think there is almost a limitless amount of stuff that can be done with technology and that I think is main focus for many in todays world.
  • This fall, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) will decide whether to make this spectrum available for anyone to use.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      I'm not sure exactly why this would not be made available. What are some of the downfalls of having this. Are there any?
  • will enable a new generation of innovation and competition from which consumers -- especially those to whom the white spaces could soon deliver high-speed online access -- should benefit tremendously
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      Isnt this what it is all about. Access would open up new arenas for improvements and innovation I think.
  • free the airwaves now.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      Here is a pretty good, clear and concise statement. We obviously know what the purpose of this article is.
  •  
    Read through the argument presented by Google here and assess the approach the author or authors have taken in order to be persuasive. Is there anything regarding the presentation of their argument that stands out to you? Feel free to "highlight and comment" on specific excerpts (as you did last week with "What are you good at?") OR you may choose to leave a "floating sticky note" anywhere on the page by clicking the drop down arrow next to "Comment" and choosing "Add a floating sticky note to this page." Additionally, you may choose to respond to a comment already written by one of your classmates. Should you choose this approach, please note that simply agreeing or disagreeing is not sufficient. You must explain why.
  •  
    Make no mistake: open access to this unused bandwidth would surely be good for our own bottom line (not to mention those of many of our industry peers);
Meghan Winn

Comp II Project I - Google Docs - 0 views

shared by Meghan Winn on 15 Oct 08 - No Cached
  • Ursala
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Correctly spelled Ursula K. LeGuin
  • Ursala K. Le Guin
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Correctly spelled Ursula K. LeGuin
  • Ursala’s portrayal of a typical anti hero shows the many truths about life in how an isolated child such as this main character is able to portray.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Organization- Sentence doesn't make total sense
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Sentense doesn't make sense.
  • ...47 more annotations...
  • Ursala
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Incorrect spelling
  • The people within this city are aware of these conditions and even though known as joyous people ignore the fact of this child and are compliant of the situation.
  • Childs
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- wrongly capitalized
  • accordance
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- order would make more sense here
  • Many cases torture can be used for greater of mankind,
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- sentense doesn't make sense
  • Many cases torture can be used for greater of mankind,
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention-sentence doesn't make sense
  • is clearly not what our government sees as a means of reliance for torture
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- sentence doesn't make sense
  • and or
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- and/or
  • Many times these instances with the small child although not acceptable in today’s society could potentially happen for mere fact of having a better life for others.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- commas are needed around "although not acceptable in today's society"
  • is revealing of torture
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- doesn't make sense
  • Levin’s
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- should just be Levin
  • and making
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- should be "and of making a choice"
  • Levins
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Levin
  • Levins
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention-Levin
  • Levins
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Levin
  • Levins
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Levin
  • to join his side of the instances
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- sentence doesn't make sense
  • along with one even stating she would want to watch.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- This is wrong. The mother said she would want to administer the torture not just watch.
  • Levins
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Levin
  • Levins
  • Levins
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Levin
  • for the better of human kind.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- doens't make sense
  • These instances are shown very well, and also persuade the reader that may not be for these circumstances to begin seeing Levins point of view and begin to reasoning with him.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- parts of sentence don't make sense, wrong tense used for reason
  • McCullagh gives examples of how our government will when needed perform acts of torture with no knowledge
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- commas needed around "when needed", need to specify who has no knowledge
  • Many times in our history presidents have had to make tough decisions on this topic and decide to go against all odds such as Lincoln suspending the Habeas Corpus act in 1861.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- sentence changes tense
  • and considered Lincolns
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- should be "and is considered Lincoln's"
  • Although this instance is proclaimed it is also beatable by the U.S. Constitution stating that
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- sentence doesn't make sense
  • it becomes the more ethical thing to achieve from the success of saving many more lives with the sacrifice of one.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- doesn't make sense
  • Foner claims “We must accept limitations on our liberties” meaning we should accept the presidents decisions on terrorism and the effects that the president decides to secretly take on these actions.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- This is wrong. Foner is just citing "sentiments that are likely to be with us for some time to come." The article is actually about how he thinks "the most patriotic act of all is the unyielding defense of civil liberties."
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- commas are also needed around the quote
  • by bringing people right of speech
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- doesn't make sense
  • “Wired” and “The Nation” in the articles discussed tend to have a similar style of writing
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- the authors have a similar style of writing not the magazine
  • Levins
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Levin
  • Articles by both Foner and McCullagh indicate how our government must take drastic matters into their own hands and deal with them in ways that the American public should not be aware of. These measures are important to our society and many times save thousands of lives. It seems as if in our society we are okay with these measures as long as the public does not hear of them. This ideal image of both Foner and McCullagh are imperative in the success in our American society today.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- This is wrong. As I stated earlier Foner completely disagrees with these actions and McCullagh never even says that he agress with the actions taken by our government.
  • Ultimately when reading these articles it comes clear that ethical basis comes into effect.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- doesn't make sense
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Organization- The closing doesn't really relate to the rest of the paper. Ethics is only mentioned one time before this.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Organization- There is no opening to the paper. You go right into discussing your first article instead of introducing your main idea.
  • Ursala
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Ursula
  • Levins
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Levin
  • Levin’s
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Levin
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Assignment Parameters- The paper does not really reflect the idea that was assigned. There is only one reference to rhetorical basis and style (pathos, logos, or ethos). You didn't always state whether the author was for or against torture. You also didn't really mention anything about the credentials or authority of any authors or sources so there was nothing about how this affects the success of the message. You also did not research any additional articles on torture so there was obviously no discussion about their specific claims or how they use situation and fact.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Organization- There are a lot of good details used in the paragraphs about LeGuin's story but many of the things talked about do not relate to the topic. The first two paragraphs are good discussion on the story but don't relate to the subject of torture and there is no mention about how this author uses rhetorical strategies.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      You use a lot of good details and quotes throughout the paper but the fact that you have incorrect references and have the whole idea of Foner's article wrong might make your paper look unreliable.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      The paper doesn't tie together very well. For one of the authors you talked about rhetoric, for one you talked about different aspects of the plot and for some you gave too much review of the information in the article and not enough about the message they were trying to portray and the writing style they used to get it across to the readers.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      The paragraphs about Levin are good. You use details that help develop your ideas and also state what kind of rhetoric style he uses to persuade his readers.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      The paragraphs about McCullagh have too much review and not enough of your ideas on his writing style, message or credentials.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      The paragraph about Foner's article is really confusing to me. Not only are your references not accurate with his article but I don't understand that sentence about how he claims "his views on terrorism by bringing people right of speech"?
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Your bibliography page is also supposed to be in MLA format, not just the link to the website.
Brian Russo

Cybil Scott - 0 views

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  • If a person speaking appears uncomfortable or unsure about what they are saying, the audience will perceive their ethos and credentials as untrustworthy, and persuasion will not work.
    • Brian Russo
       
      good point
  • slow steady controlled speech
    • Brian Russo
       
      commas
    • Brian Russo
       
      good examples of ethos logos and pathos
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  •     I believe
    • Brian Russo
       
      no first person
  • I found
    • Brian Russo
       
      no first person
  • It gives him more credit over his competition with Barack Obama
    • Brian Russo
       
      reword
  • us feel
    • Brian Russo
       
      us to feel
Brandon Cruz

Discussion: Your rhetorical life - 53 views

I think the past couple of months have been the most rhetorical months of my entire life, if you will. With the presidential elections in full swing I found myself right in the middle of the action...

Angela Moneck

Public Writing Assignment #1 - 80 views

Update: I just posted my comment onto YouTube now that it let me sign up. I did have to shorten what I originally wrote because of the character limit. Here is the link again: http://www.youtube.c...

pwa1

Alex Gutierrez

Here is my first essay draft - 18 views

http://docs.google.com/a/mail.usf.edu/Doc?id=dwgptmz_0d9hqmzc8

alex gutierrez

started by Alex Gutierrez on 10 Oct 08 no follow-up yet
Dena Rennie

First draft of Torture paper - 55 views

here's my rough draft. http://docs.google.com/a/mail.usf.edu/Doc?id=dm9r52k_1fttt9t3w (p.s.- i know i'm a source short, but since I was already late as it is since I was in Illinois all weekend f...

Sean McMillan

First Draft - 16 views

http://docs.google.com/a/mail.usf.edu/Doc?id=dhzcwzb_0fcjrrcgr

started by Sean McMillan on 11 Oct 08 no follow-up yet
Michael Gutierrez

my first essay draft - 13 views

https://docs.google.com/a/mail.usf.edu/Doc?docid=dhggtsg7_0d45z68d8&hl=en

gutierrez michael

started by Michael Gutierrez on 10 Oct 08 no follow-up yet
Brian Russo

Cybil Scott - 0 views

shared by Brian Russo on 16 Oct 08 - No Cached
  • An author
    • Brian Russo
       
      name of author
  • To begin
    • Brian Russo
       
      stronger transition
  • the given four authors that were read first each had a different perspective on the subject of torture, but were from very different sources
    • Brian Russo
       
      wordy
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  • The only case where this could be debated is if the author were a victim of torture or they did it themselves, in which case would place them on a personal level with the topic.
    • Brian Russo
       
      good point
  • Which is basically what we do today when we hear about torture in the middle east
    • Brian Russo
       
      fragment
  • I will discuss
    • Brian Russo
       
      omit
  • Onto my next set of sources
    • Brian Russo
       
      omit
    • Brian Russo
       
      paper is good, just try to get out of using 1st person so often, if at all
  • in my opinion
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      omit
  • like me
    • Brian Russo
       
      omit
  • A great example of logos is employed in another authors stance on torture. The logical approach is as follows,“A Since   (1)just combat-killing is total destruction of a person,                 (2)torture is- usually-only partial destruction or temporary incapacitation of a person, and                 (3)the total destruction of a person is a greater harm than the personal destruction of a person is, thenB since      (4)just combat-killing is a greater harm than torture usually is;                 (5)just-combat killing is sometimes morally permissible                 (6)torture is sometimes morally permissible” (Shue 125).
    • Brian Russo
       
      structure
    • Brian Russo
       
      Overall, paper has good content and organization. All the references were used correctly and good points were made. The only things to work on are getting the paper out of 1st person, and using stronger transitions.
Meghan Winn

ENC 1102 Project III - 0 views

shared by Meghan Winn on 26 Nov 08 - No Cached
    • Meghan Winn
       
      So far the paper isn't bad at all. It is very informational and well written. You use a lot of good details and everything is clear and understandable.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      In the paragraphs you have written you mainly just give details about Africa. When you continue writing I would make sure you address the topic more and tell of the websites visual rhetoric and your involvement in thier webpage. You should also try to critique their page and maybe give some ideas of your own.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Like Meghan said so far what you have is not that bad at all. I think the paper flows together very well and you have more than enough details in the first 2 paragraphs. I am assuming that there is going to be more written so be sure to address the visual rhetoric of the website that you viewed.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Again just make sure to include what you did and how you interacted with the website. anything that they did that caught your interest or anything that you did in regards with involvement on the website.
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