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  • complaining
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      I really like to complain.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      I also like to complain.
  • demonstrating
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      I am good at demonstrating.
    • Brandon Cruz
       
      I love to show people new things. I don't want to be a teacher when I grow up but, I get this weird sense of accomplishment out of it. I worked at a summer camp a few years ago where I was the high ropes instructor. I dealt with mostly middle school kids who were all scared to death to climb up the thirty feet knowing that the only thing keeping them from falling was a rope. Once they built up enough courage to do it, though, it was awesome to help them through all the obstacles and conquer their fears.
  • running
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      I am a good runner.
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  • cooking
    • Brandon Cruz
       
      I wouldn't go as far to say that I am particularly "good" at cooking but it is something that I enjoy. I did an internship during my senior year in high school at Publix Supermarkets in their photography studio where we shot all of the photos for the weekly sales ad that they produce. It was really interesting to see how much work goes into preparing the different meals for photographing. They brought in a food stylist to "style" the food to make it look the best it could for the shot. Ever since then when I cook I almost worry more about the presentation than anything which, often leads to sacrifice in taste.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      A food stylist. There's a job I never knew existed. Cool.
    • Hinal Patel
       
      I don't seem to be passionate about much, but cooking is definitely one of them. I watch the Food Network Channel almost religiously. I use cooking as an escape from regular life because it is one thing that I can really control. I like knowing that not only are there concrete ways to make something, it's okay to stray away and do your own thing. I started cooking because in my family, girls are expected to start making food early. I just got lucky that I really liked the idea of cooking. I've taken a few baking classes and really wanted to major in culinary arts, but science just seemed more practical. Food is one thing that I can easily move from culture to culture and have now learned what spices go with what places. I'm glad that I have grown up with Indian food all my life because I find that starting to cook Indian has made it easier for me to cook other types of food. It also gives me something to connect to with the women of my family because sharing recipes is something I can finally be a part of. Cooking is something that comes in handy with many things and my passion for it keeps building with every new thing I make. I realized that if I could be anything, it would be a host on my own cooking show, but since I feel better on the other side of the screen, a hobby is all it will be.
    • Brian Russo
       
      Cooking is a pretty big deal in my family. Pretty much everyone in my family is an excellant cook, including both of my parents, grandparents and all of my aunts and uncles. This is more than likely due to the fact that my heritage is predominantly Italian and Italian people historically love to cook and eat as well. Nonetheless, cooking is something I consider myself very good at and apparently others do as well, as I have received numerous compliments on my cooking. As in a restaurant, where customer satisfaction is all that matters, your main objective as a cook is for whoever you're cooking for to be completely satisfied with the meal that you've prepared. It feels good and satisfying to know that your cooking was enjoyed and appreciated. Even though I really enjoy cooking, a hobby is all it will ever be. I don't plan on making a career out of it. In fact, I only started to cook almost out of necessity. Both of my parents, who are now seperated, work for the airlines, with my dad being a pilot and my mom being a flight attendant. Me and my younger brother live at home with my dad, so while my dad is out of town flying, which is usually for about five days out of the week, I've taken on the responsibility of cooking for my brother and whatever friends he has over. Not only does home cooking save a bunch of money, but if you learn how to do it right, you don't need to sacrifice the quality of the food by not eating out. There's also a freedom about cooking that I enjoy. When you go to a restaurant theres specific things to chose from, but when you cook at home, you're menu is limitless. Cooking also gives me a chance to put my own twist on classic meals and make them to better suit my own taste and the other people who i'm cooking for as well.
  • wondering
    • Brandon Cruz
       
      I'm pretty sure I have ADD because I am the man at this. Whether it's in class, at work, or studying my mind is never where it should be. I always find myself losing focus on what I'm working on. One of my favorite things to wonder about is business ideas. I never seem to have enough money so; I'm always trying to think of new ways to produce a little extra cash flow. Nothing has ever followed through, unfortunately, although I have had some good ones
    • Denise Sanchez
       
      Its strange that of all the words listed i would pick wondering, but its the one that applies to me the most. I grew up as an only child and as such I had to invent ways to keep myself entertained. I love reading and watching movies but i can spend hours just daydreaming.
  • laughing
    • Cybil Scott
       
      I think I am equally as good at laughing as I am at offending. I think the two go hand in hand. I don't really know how one can be good at laughing, it just sort of happens. It's the sense of humor that makes it happen. In my opinion if you can dish it out you better be able to take it. My personality involves a lot of laughing; not at other people's expense per se, but I definitely find a lot of things funny in my everyday life. Keeping a good sense of humor about you allows you to not take life so seriously. There tends to be a lot of ironic circumstances in life that are just too peculiar not to laugh at. However, with that comes the occasional offending comment. Some people do not understand my offhand sarcasm. Or my witty banter. I would also include that one of my favorite things to say online or in texting is LOL. Or Hahaha. But this is not granted so easily. I am not the type of person that finds everything funny, because it would devalue the truly hilarious things in life. I am not easily offended, but I can tell when a joke contains an offensive truth. Unfortunately, I do find myself taking it too far or not understanding why a person gets upset, because I'm so used to being easygoing about these things. There are a lot of times when I have to say "Aww, come on, you know I'm just kidding…".
    • Meghan Winn
       
      When I looked at this list of words the one that jumped out at me the most was laughing. I have a great sense of humor; I love to laugh and to make other people laugh. I would say that I'm really good at cheering up my friends and family whenever they are upset about something. I believe that people really like that about me. Life would be way too serious without a good laugh wherever you can find one! Sarcasm is one of my favorite types of humor. I am very sarcastic about a lot of things. Many times people are amused by it but sometimes they can get offended! Most people understand though and know I'm just kidding! I also love watching comedians like Mitch Hedberg or Dane Cook. They always give me a good laugh!
  • instructing
    • Bob The Builder
       
      When looking at this assignment, the word "instructing" stood out to me above all others. It's a weird thing to claim to be good at, but I believe that I am great at instructing. It's not that I'm a bossy person; I just tend to be a huge perfectionist. Usually in group situations I would rather be the leader than a follower because I like giving out orders and instructing people to complete certain tasks. When I took cooking classes with my friends and older sister I unintentionally was always the one giving people their jobs for the day. Maybe I have a slight OCD problem but it just bothers me if things are not organized to my liking so I would rather delegate and make sure things go according to plan. Instructing can also be used in terms of teaching, which I am equally good at. I usually can break material down into simpler and more understanding terms and teach it to someone who is having difficulty grasping those particular concepts. When I took chemistry my sophomore year of high school, my best friend at the time, was struggling every class period and couldn't understand the concepts the way our professor would teach them. Because I did, I was able to break down the lessons and teach it to her in a way that she had no problem comprehending. I guess in certain ways, instructing is one of my best qualities as well as my worst. It makes me an excellent tutor but also a slightly controlling team member. I think I just need to realize everything doesn't have to be perfect.
  • listening
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      I believe that I am good at listening. Whenever a friend or anyone in general needs to vent about someone or something, I always try my best to be available. I actually listen and for the most part, if I am not overwhelmed with occurences in my life, I genuinely care. I offer advice when I feel it is necessary. Even if I give bad advice, or even if they do not take it, I still offer it just in case they decide to use it. Having someone that is able and willing to listen to you, whether good or bad news, helps to release stress. Although I think I am a good listener, I am horrible at talking. I do not like to share my feelings with many people. The only emotions I do show are when I am happy or excited. When I am sad or unhappy I do not like to share those feelings with anyone because I do not want to burden other people with my troubles. Even though I feel like sharing my troubles with my friends produces stress for them, I have been told that not talking to them stresses them out more than if I had just talked to them in the first place. So for anyone who is listening and cares to take it, my advice is don't keep your feelings to yourself because it just brings more stress to everyone involved! Let your friends and family know what is going on in your life and both you and them will be less stressed.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I believe that I am a pretty social person, considering that I am good at both listening and talking. I try my best to listen to people's problems when they need to talk, and I appreciate when they do the same for me. I believe that I have always been good at this, especially through all the high school "drama" with boys, stresses, and fights. All of my friends, especially my best friends, know that they can come to me whenever they have any issue that they need advice on or they just need to get something off their chests. They all know that I won't judge them, I will only listen and give my honest input when I feel that it is needed. I think that good listening skills are a very important trait to have.
  • writing
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      I would have to say that writing on an interesting topic is one of my favorite things to do. I enjoy all sorts of writing. In writing you either do research and learn allot about a particular topic. Writing is also a means of expressing oneself. One is able to express who one is or where one has been. How much history would we know if our ancestors did not write it down? If Lewis and Clark never wrote in a journal we would know nothing of their travels into the West. I enjoy writing and am fairly good at it because I understand its importance. Many papers that I have written have described my most memorable experiences. Many others have described who I am and what my life has been like. Writing is a way to never be forgotten. Someone may read one of my papers one hundred years from now and know much more about me than a classmate which I never speak with. I am good at writing and enjoy it very much because I think it is one of the best ways in expressing oneself to the world around us. The one thing that I dont enjoy is writing about uninteresting topics. I love writing about history or people. One topic that I dont think I would enjoy writing about would be Physics or Chemistry. I enjoy and am good at writing if it is a topic that I am interested in.
  • writing
    • Dena Rennie
       
      I feel that I am good at writing. It may not even be that I am good at writing, or just that I feel good when I am writing. It doesn't matter if I am writing a poem, lyrics to a song, or writing a novel that I hope one day to finish- when I'm writing, I am at peace. I feel so in control when I write, and at the same time, I feel so helpless how the words just pour from my fingers so effortlessly. I suppose it's only fitting that I would be a writer. Both my parents have an amazing way with words. The first time I came home from spending time with my dad at the age of 16, the letter he gave me to read on the plane ride home brought tears to my eyes. And the sheer passion I see in my mother's eyes when I see her teaching her journalism class tells me that had she made different choices earlier in life, she would be a fearless journalist, desperately seeking the true story behind a political scandal, or a famous novelist like the great authors she looks up to with such high regard. Yes, there is no question that part of my writing abilities comes from both my parents, but the way I write is my own. Whether I am angrily blogging, or happily jotting down haikus, I feel the most like myself when I have a pen in one hand and a notebook propped by my knees cradling my left hand as it scrawls across the pages, or at my computer with a blank screen yearning to be filled with thoughts.
  • reading
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Reading is something I really enjoy. My mom and dad both read a lot and since I was little they always encouraged me to do the same. I'm not very good at writing but I appreciate others' talents. One of my favorite authors is Chuck Palahniuk. I have read many of his books and find the way he tells the story to be very interesting and unique. I wish I could write like that! I regret that I don't read as often as I used to but since I started college I've been pretty busy reading textbooks instead of novels!
  • talking
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      Talking is one of my favorite things to do. However, it can also be one of my least favorite when the person is not interesting. Striking up an inteligent, interesting, and witty conversation can really be quite pleasurable. I like talking because you meet alot of very interesting people that many times have something worth saying. For instance; I was in the airport about a month ago on my way back from Yellowstone and Glacier National Park just kiling time; when I found myself in a great conversation. The man I talked to was older with a son beginning college this semester, just so happened they were going to be around Yellowstone on one last pre-college family vacation. Of course this immediately warranted some talking. I found myself telling them the few places they absolutely could not miss, along with some that respectfully could be. This, believe it or not, brought alot of joy to me. I knew that they were also, like me, going to experience a moment that really cannot be fully explained through talking alone. Something you really "had to see to believe!" Now that I am home, I realize that I learned so many interesting and wonderful things that really should be talked about. On the flip side, talking can really be annoying and quite unpleasurable. When discussing things that are really your own business like grades, yet everyone and their grandmother has to know. At times when you are in a hurry and need to be somewhere, but you feel bad just turning away from a conversation that many times you don't feel to be very pleasurable. So talking most times is fun, but can also be boring and drawn out. So if you have something to talk about spit it out, and let it be heard.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Talking is another trait that I am good at. Although I don't particularly like talking in front of large groups of people, I love just talking to friends separately or in a group. Sometimes I find that I even talk too much, but my friends get used to that after knowing me for a while. I work in an environment in which it is required to be able to go up to people I may not know and start up a conversation. I may not always have been good at talking to people I don't know, but my job has persuaded me to actually like talking to people I'm not familiar with. I don't mind telling people how I feel, especially when I am upset about something-I can never keep anything inside for too long.
  • coaching
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      When it is all said and done, coaching is something that I have always wanted to pursue. I look at coaching as a way to help kids of any age get through obstacles that may come at them. Coaches are always telling us to never let up on that last lap, always run your hardest and touch the line. Never tell yourself that you can't do it or that something is too hard. You can take the most common used phrases in the gym and put them in life like scenarios. Life throws things at you left and right, if you gave up on the very first try, then how are you ever going to be successful in anything you do. It is very hard to do anything half speed, and if you never put forth your best effort how are you going to know what your potential is? A lot of people often do not even attempt a task because they psyche themselves out before they even try it. Sometimes it is just automatic for one to think that it is too hard, or there is no way one can do that. I want to be that coach or that person that helped someone succeed in the gym and then that person use those very simple lessons in life. A lot of coaches will coach to win games. But the best coaches are the ones who coach to help young kids become better people. Sure, it is a lot more fun when you win, but at the end of the day if you can't take anything home from it then what is the point.
  • writing
    • Jonathon Ellington
       
      Although I am no Ernest Hemmingway I would venture to say that I have a certain propensity for writing. I believe that this stems from my childhood; I would find myself dozing off in the shower where I was suddenly interrupted by my father who had unexpectedly walked in to the bathroom and then began to quiz me on spelling terms. While this may appear weird or bizarre at first glance, it helped me realize the power that words have. Standing there, I would wonder, "Why is he doing this? All I want to do is try to reminisce on the dream that was so rudely interrupted." But no, he was in there every Wednesday morning preparing me for the spelling pretest that was to come later that day. It wasn't until I had grown to the ripe age of a middle schooler that I realized how important writing was, not only could you tell fascinating stories but you could convey a message that would carry a deeper symbolism. During my seventh grade year two of my essays were entered into contests, both placed 1st or 2nd in their respective contests. These results inspired and encouraged me to continue my writing. As senior year of high school arrived I worked diligently to receive as much financial aid as I could. At the end of the year I had received over $15,000 in scholarship money. My first year of college was paid for and with this I was paid handsomely to attend. These events are why I consider myself a writer.
  • composing
    • Garrett Granger
       
      As I looked through the list of words on this page, it occurred to me that nothing really stood out as an actual strength of mine. I mean, I guess I do a good job of listening, talking, laughing, and even complaining, but how can you be good at something everyone else can do? It was the word "composing" that really caught my attention. For as long as I can remember, I have always enjoyed listening to music. I'm not sure why, but there is an indescribable feeling that comes over me when I hear a song I really enjoy. I guess it's something of a natural high for me. But as great as it is to listen to one of your favorite songs, it can't quite compare to playing one of your own tunes under the heat of stage lighting, in front of a crowd of cheering fans. Before moving to Tampa for college, I played the guitar for a band called South Atlantic. We never really experienced any major success, but we did play shows across the state of Florida. Now, nearly two years after our departure, I still have the desire to continue where the band left off. Unfortunately, composing a hit song has proved to be one of the greatest challenges of my life. I guess there is a reason why it's so difficult to get recognized by major record labels. I don't think that the art of creating a musical masterpiece can be taught. I believe it's one of those talents you either have, or you don't. So I guess what I'm really trying to say is, if I could choose one word from the list to help describe something I wish I were good at, it would definitely be composing.
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    Diagnostic demonstration page for Ryan Meehan's 1102 Online Fall 2008 class.
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    I know how to analyze situations. This is just a test to make sure I can figure this thing out properly.
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    I'm good at a lot of those things but since I have to choose just one I'm gonna go with: analyzing. Its probably why I like the sciences so much because as you know it does requires a lot of analytical skills. I always seem to get a little rush whenever i use the skills that I learned in class and apply them in solving a problem. My analytical skills also extend to other areas of my life. I always thoroughly evaluate all aspects of something before I gt involved, so I can make sure its what is really best for and those around me. Im also good at laughing, I'm not a huge joke teller but when I hear a good joke I can't stop laughing. Even when other people have forgotten about, I still just keep on laughing.
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  • Sophist
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      The Sophists were a group of traveling teachers in Ancient Greece who were hired by citizens who were looking to become better, more persuasive teachers. Today, the term "sophistry" carries a negative connotation, as it refers to arguments that use rhetoric for malicious reasons, like to confuse or distort.
  • What is it, anyway, and why do people say such terrible things about it?
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      This comment makes me feel like rhetoric isn't such a bad thing even though I hate it.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I think the reason why people do not like rhetoric is because it is very diverse.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      Why do you hate, rhetoric?
  • truth exists in an absolute way, and the only proper use of rhetoric is to lead people to it.
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      This helps in my understanding of rhetoric and makes me want to use rhetoric to see the truth.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      I like this way of looking at rhetoric.. not just convincing people what you believe but leading them to the truth.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Also i think if you believe in what the truth stands for it makes it easier for you to bring people to it.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      It always depends on where the person wants to take you. What truth they consider to be the right one. Always worth pondering over because people get sucked in without even knowing it.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      Cybil brings up a good point here. In a world where many truths, be they religious, scientific, philosophical etc. exist for many different people, it is often the execution of rhetoric that leads people to believe in one thing over another.
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  • People should use rhetoric to try to persuade each other, so that in the end, after hearing arguments on all sides of a question, they might arrive at the best course of action.
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      This is a good way to look at rhetoric. It gives me a new perspective on it.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I think this is one of the best explanations of rhetoric i have seen so far.
    • Bob The Builder
       
      Using rhetoric to persuade each other is an excellent idea because it helps make an answer to a question more objective and it reduces any biases.
  • Anyone who has lived with a cat or a dog can think of numerous ways these animals practice rhetoric in Kennedy's sense -- exert rhetorical energy -- to express their feelings and to get humans to do what they want.
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      I never thought of rhetoric being used by animals but now that is explained to me, I guess I could see where it is possible!
    • Charlotte Randolph
       
      I would have never thought about animals using rhetoric. I found it very interesting that they would use it in such a simple way. They convey what they need throught their sounds and actions.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Wow, i never thought of an animal using rhetoric to make sense. My dog will get his leashe when he has to go out or when hes hungry he will put his head on my leg while i am sitting down. Also he eats around the same time everyday and he will start following me around and pacing back and forth till i get him his food.
    • Brandon Cruz
       
      My dog does many of the same things. So really, rhetoric is communication. If we did not have a need to express different ideas we would not need language.
    • Bob The Builder
       
      When I read the line above that states "rhetoric is manifext in all animal life..." I thought that sounded ridiculous. But by reading this line, I now understand what they are talking about and, in fact, it seems very true.
  • Even when rhetors do not intend to persuade outright, still they must be concerned with their credibility
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      Thinking about this comment, I reflect back to when I speak to my friends and pretty much anyone and I realize that in some way or another I am always trying to persuade them of something. Even when I don't realize it!
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      Yes. And I'd like you to carry this idea to the papers you write for this class. You'll want to pay careful attention to whom the intended audience is, and then make your own rhetorical writing decisions based on what you know about that audience's expectations.
  • [R]hetoric is inoperative when the audience lacks the power to respond freely to the message
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      This is so true! If you are trying to persuade someone to be on your team, but they are already on your team, then why are you trying to persaude them?
    • Sean McMillan
       
      This statement solidifies the importance of the audience when it comes to rhetoric. You could have the best argument in the world, but without the right audience it could be meaningless.
  • Asian writing is more likely to spiral on itself, reiterating ideas in various ways. Many students who come to us from foreign countries have to learn not only to speak and write in English, but also to follow the rhetorical conventions of a foreign culture.
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      I never knew this. Interesting fact!
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I had no idea. Must be tough!
    • Sean McMillan
       
      you don't really think of rhetoric as being any different from any other language or culture. I guess it's all relative.
    • Brandon Cruz
       
      I couldn't imagine going to study in China and having to write like that. Hats off to the students over here.
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      This is an awesome paragraph and really helps to describe what its like being immersed in something you don't know and how we still use what we learn after we are not involved in it anymore!
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      These two paragraphs help me with understanding alot about rhetoric and how to use it!
  • Everyone practices rhetoric
    • Angela Moneck
       
      This entire section of the work makes it more clear how everyone uses rhetoric. When I think of rhetoric, I just think of advertisers and authors who use it to persuade their audiences, but I really didn't realize how much we use rhetoric until you see an example like the dog and cat example in the sixth paragraph.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      It's kind of exhausting when we think about all the rhetoric we see on a daily basis. Especially in advertisiing!!!
    • Bob The Builder
       
      This is an excellent title for a section because, while most of us do not realize it, we all do practice rhetoric on a daily basis. Because its such a broad topic, people dont realize how often it is used.
  • The rhetoric is a kind of smoke screen, or a trick with mirrors meant to deceive.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I like this metaphor. It makes the story a little bit more interesting. I don't feel like I'm just reading something out of a textbook when I read this. It makes me want to read further to understand exactly what they are trying to say.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      I agree with Angela about liking this metaphor. So many people think that rhetoric is a "trick..meant to decieve" but really they probably use it all the time without even noticing.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Yeah i really like this metaphor also, and i agree with the second comment i dont think alot of people realize how often they use it.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      I think this comment is very accurate. Sure, people may not realize how often they use this technique, but when in use, rhetoric helps to steer the listeners opinions in the speakers direction.
  • the emotional energy that impels the speaker to speak, the physical energy expended in the utterance, the energy level coded in the message, and the energy experienced by the recipient in decoding the message.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I really like the way this was put-it makes me think further into what he means.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      I love this. It's such a huge statement on the basis of the world, and in philosophy. Talking about energy and the way it comes through people is another subject altogether.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I like the way that he put this-it really makes me tihnk further into what he's saying.
  • Put another way, rhetoric is a way to affirm values and hopefully avoid armed conflict: it's better that people work out their differences with words rather than with swords or guns.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      It would be nice if that could always work and we could avoid wars and other conflicts!
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Yeah i agree, wouldn't it be nice to bring some troops home or had a couple of wars and such avoided?
    • Cybil Scott
       
      Wow. If we could work stuff out by just using words, wouldn't the world be quite a different place!! There's only one requirement though, everyone would have to be educated and intelligent. So until then, if we're gonna be dumb we gotta be tough.
    • Brandon Cruz
       
      I wish the world would work like this. I feel that people today are so concerned with being "right" that they forget to try look at all of the angles my self included. Many of are just so stubburn that we will never be able to think this way.
  • But the domain has shifted many times in subsequent ages.
  • Even when rhetors do not intend to persuade outright, still they must be concerned with their credibility; with what their audiences already know and needs to know; with how their audiences are likely to feel about the subject; with how to begin, how to end, how to arrange the middle -- all these and more, to earn the greatest possible cooperation from their readers.
  • In the academic community we would do well, all of us, faculty and students, to think of ourselves as rhetors -- even as rhetoricians, students of rhetoric. Because in some ways we are.
    • Charlotte Randolph
       
      I think this is very true because we use rhetoric in papers we right in school to convince the readers of what we are discussing. Faculty uses rhetoric to persuade their colleagues and students almost every day.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I think at some point everyone uses rhetoric probably once a day if not once a week to try and get something across.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      Again, I have to agree with this statement. As college students, we use rhetoric everyday to try and prove ourselves. More specifically, logos is used almost everyday at the university level.
  • Discourse that affects an audience, that informs, moves, delights, and teaches, has a rhetorical aim. . . . Rhetoric implies choices, for both the speaker or writer and the audience. When we practice rhetoric we make decisions about our subject, audience, point of view, purpose, and message. . . . Furthermore, the audience must have a choice in responding to the message, must be able to adopt, modify, or reject it.
    • Charlotte Randolph
       
      I liked this paragraph because I think it is very true, when we practice rhetoric we are making a decision about what we want to convince our audience of and how to do it. At the same time the audience makes the desision of how to take the information and accept it or not. This is really evident in a debate, because you as the speaker make the decision of how to convince your audience and they in return decide how they will respond to it.
  • Hitler's Germany
    • Cybil Scott
       
      Hitler was indeed a truly evil person with a hidden agenda who exterminated over 6 million people. Unfortuantely, as many people realized he was a very skilled public speaker. He was popular for a reason. He was extremely good at persuasion and making people think what he was accomplishing was good for the nation as a whole. This is where the danger lies. One always has to think critically and see beyond the rhetoric.
    • Vincent DiDomenico
       
      I agree with Cybil. Rhetoric is, as Hitler has proven, a powerful form of persuasion. We must always remember, however, that it is just that--a method of persuasion.
  • winning
    • Cybil Scott
       
      A mind-set that many people should change. It's never about being right or winning for the sake of winning.
  • Speech would not have evolved among human beings unless rhetoric already existed
    • Cybil Scott
       
      So philosophical and deep. I could debate on this for hours!
    • Garrett Granger
       
      This is a very interesting statement. It seems very possible that it could, in fact be true. If we accepted everything we were told, there would be no reason to respond when spoken to, except for a gesture of acceptance.
  • Ethos: how can I establish credibility, to show I've "done my homework" on the subject I'm writing about? What face should I present to the reader: that of a student? a professional in training (Word Works #55-56)? Pathos: who are the audiences for the writing? What can I assume the audiences already know and feel about the subject (#76, 77)? Logoi: how can I make sure my information is complete and my arguments logical (#78)?
    • Bob The Builder
       
      Because i often confuse ethos, pathos and logos, these questions are great examples to distinguish one from the others. It is especially useful because these are questions we (the students) constantly ask ourselves.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      I agree that these examples of the types of rhetoric helped me distinguish between the three! Every time I write a paper or just an informal writing assignment I ask myself many of these same questions.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Yes i also often get the three confused but these examples helped out big time!
  • "How `true' is a truth if you can't get anybody to accept it?"
    • Sean McMillan
       
      very good quote. Sad but true. Just because your speaking the truth doesn't mean there isn't someone else with a better argument.
  • he took the domain of rhetoric to be uncertainty and probability, particularly in the law courts and the deliberations of democratic government
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      This is important because rhetoric is only as trustworthy as the speaker.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      I think that this is looking at rhetoric from one perspective, however I think that rhetoric can also be used as a good thing. Helping people make the right decisions, not necesarilly a "trick with mirrors"
    • Sean McMillan
       
      very true, rhetoric can be used to just inform. It's not always used to just trick or persuade. Its a good way to pass on information.
  • In fact, rhetoric is manifest in all animal life and existed long before the evolution of human beings.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      This is a good observation applying the notion of rhetoric not only to humans but to all living things. Wolves for example have a very strict hierarchy that is strictly regulated. The leaders in these poeitions utilize body language and strength, along with experience. Which is all a part of rhetoric.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      Great comparison, Alex. Thanks.
  • Rhetoric has always been a tool that can serve either good or evil,
    • Sean McMillan
       
      This statement clarifies that rhetoric can and does get used in situations when the authors not necessarily right. As stated before with the hitler reference, someone with a good understanding of their audience and rhetoric can do some harmful things.
  • People moving from one culture to another must cross not only a language barrier, but also a cultural barrier -- part of which is rhetorical.
    • Dena Rennie
       
      This is undoubtedly true. To give another example like the one listed below here. Being a sign language interpreting major, here is a cultural barrier problem I have seen. In Deaf culture, Deaf and hard of hearing individuals value directness and being blunt about subjects. If you have put on a little weight, it is nothing for a Deaf person to sign HEY YOU LOOK DIFFERENT, BEFORE THIN NOW FAT HAPPEN? (cultural note, that is ASL syntax, i couldn't really add the facial grammar glosses- but that would be the basic sign order. Prepositions and conjuctions are usually implied) This may be very difficult to accept for a person who is not associated or well-versed with the Deaf community because one may think they are being rude, when really that is how the cultural as a whole is. I have noticed sometimes Deaf and hard of hearing people get frustrated sometimes with people who beat around the bush because they feel that the person that they are communicating with is trying to hide something. This sometimes causes problems, especially if the interpreter forgets to interpret the cultural differences (which happens upon occassion).
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      An absolutely fascinating comment, Dena. Those of us who are not hearing impaired know that without body language it is often difficult to communicate clearly. For people who depend wholly on body language, it is even more important. Thanks for sharing.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I think you made a really good point with your example. When I think of different cultures, I think of someone who maybe lives in Europe compared to the United States, but your example opened my eyes to a differnt way in looking at cultures. :)
  • Cultures vary over space and over time.
  • Cultures vary over space and over time. What was true of rhetoric for the ancient Greeks and Romans is not necessarily true for us.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      This is a very true statement. Culture affects many different aspects of our lives, so I can definitely see that it would affect how rhetoric is viewed. Even someone from a different culture today may not see the same rhetoric as we see.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      I find it interesting how this statement suggests our form of rhetoric is different from the Greek and Roman forms, when we still classify rhetoric based on Aristotle's three appeals.
  • the shock of entering the "Burkean parlor."
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I really like this phrase and it's explaination, a lot. I've learned about culture shock in many of my classes, but seeing it in this way makes it so much more clear to me how difficult it must be for a person coming from one culture to enter into a competely different culture and have to adjust to the customs of the new culture without knowing basically anything about the culture ahead of time. One of the things they have to adjust to is the rhetoric of the culture.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      This really is an interesting way of puting that cultural barrier into perspective for those of us who have never been forced to experiance is.
  • However, the discussion is interminable. The hour grows late, you must depart. And you do depart, with the discussion still vigorously in progress.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      This part, to me, goes with the fact that culture changes all the time. When the person enters the conversation, it is impossible for them to catch up in every single bit of the discussion, and when they leave, the discussion is still going on, making it impossible to know the entire rest of the conversation. It is, in a way, saying that it's impossible to know every single bit of a culture because it is ever-changing.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      Such is life.
  • The "Burkean parlor" might be taken as a parable for a lot of things: for entering the culture of a different country (as many of our students have done), for entering college or a new job, perhaps for life itself.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Before reading this sentence, I only thought of a person being entered into a new culture from a differnt country, but now I know that it can mean many different tihngs.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I also interpreted it as say going to a new country for the first time but it is now easy to understand how it can mean different things.
  • When we study the organization and style of journal articles and conference presentations in order to write and speak in a similar or different manner, we are being rhetoricians. When we teach our students how to write in the discipline, how to handle the conventions of subject matter, arrangement, language, format, and documentation, we are being rhetoricians.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      This is another example of how rhetoric can be used in every day life.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      I think we are rhetoricians all the time; when we speak to someone else that is. I don't think we can be rhetorical to ourselves.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I said it earlier and this makes sense to me also, i think people especially teenagers use rhetoric everday.
    • Sean McMillan
       
      rhetoric is definatley everywhere. It's used from trying to decide where to eat dinner to matters of national security. Rhetoric is a skill set that can help anyone in life.
  • A year later the student happens across the original article, reads it again easily, and wonders, What was so hard about that?
  • A year later the student happens across the original article, reads it again easily, and wonders, What was so hard about that?
    • Meghan Winn
       
      This is definatly something that has happened to me before! Whether it's a new subject in school or just something I happen to be interested in, the first few times I look into it I have no idea what they are talking about but later on it seems so easy!
  • A student (and that could be any of us) tries to read a journal article in an unfamiliar field. It could be in physiology, education psychology, rhetorical theory. The student struggles with the article, rereads paragraphs, writes notes all over the margins trying to understand the gist of what's being said.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      I could be completely misinterpreting this, but I think that it would be the content of what is being discussed that causes the confusion, not rhetoric. I understand that there are many forms of rhetoric, but don't they all have the same purpose? In some way or another, rhetoric persuades and informs. Again, I could be looking at this the wrong way. I'm interested in seeing other thoughts on this topic.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      When someone thinks to hard about anything they make it more complicated that it is. Creativity and clarity usually comes when you least expect it, or when you are not thinking, and this should be applied to everything. Quietness of mind.
  • For instance, two of the main "arts" or rhetoric, memory and delivery, have taken entirely new forms in this age of word processing and desktop publishing.
    • Brandon Cruz
       
      This is interesting to think about. Instead of us being able to write and re-write something to make it more rhetorically sound, ancient Greeks only had one opportunity, while speaking, to get it right.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      This is interesting, as I discussed last week anything that stays around for a while has to evolve, and adapt to the times.
  • Aristotle taught that there are many areas of human experience where the truth is hard or impossible to determine
    • Bob The Builder
       
      I've learned that this is very true. It goes back to the old saying that not everything is in black and white. We often find ourselves in the gray area.
  • Some of the most dramatic scenes are those in which the characters attempt to persuade other characters: Agamemnon's disastrous attempt to rally the troops; Nestor, Ajax, and Odysseus trying to persuade Achilles to rejoin the battle; Hera seducing Zeus to distract him from the war; Priam persuading Achilles to give up the body of Hector.
    • Bob The Builder
       
      This line caught my eye because many of these stories, such as Zeus, Odysseus and Achilles, were taught to us when we were younger and, at the time, we never knew that rhetoric was being used.
  • Another assumption behind the slogan "cut through all the rhetoric" is that rhetoric is only what certain people use, such as politicians and orators, and they only use it on certain occasions.
    • Bob The Builder
       
      I think this assumption is often made because it is such a broad topic that most people do not understand what is considered rhetoric.
  • Even the writer of a parts list has to decide on nomenclature, arrangement, and the appearance of the list on the page or computer screen for the greatest clarity -- all rhetorical decisions.
    • Bob The Builder
       
      This is a good example of how the simplest writing, such as a list, uses rhetoric.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I don't know why but some things seem to get alot more complicated when you start thinking rhetorically.
  • Also, Westerners want their writing (not in all genres, but in exposition and argument) to drive forward, from beginning to end, in a linear fashion.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      American's are very to the point when looking at accomplishing goals. Sometimes a little bit to much and it hurts us. However this also why we are number 1. Rhetoric is definitely a clutural aspect as it fluctuates. Rhetoric really is devided into many different ways, depending on who is trying to be convinced. Rhetoric is constantly changing and must be in order to be used effectively.
  • But all of us function as rhetoricians
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      This is a great example. Teachers are people that we look up to, and expect to understand the topic at hand. We put our faith in their history, and knowledge in that specific topic to help us understand better.
  • In fact, we would do well to think of most of our communication as rhetoric, as a series of decisions and strategies for earning the cooperation of our audience.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      This is exactly what rhetoric is compacted in one sentance. Very good brief description I think.
    • Sean McMillan
       
      I agree, great wording. It helps cement the face that rhetoric isn't just some overblown academic technique, but a instinctual ability that you've been honing since childhood.
  • Today, many rhetoricians argue that most speech and virtually all writing must be regarded as not only rhetorical, but as persuasive in some important ways.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      I think it is interesting to see how how writing and speech have been viewed throughout history. From the Ancients to current day Rhetoric has been looked at in many ways. I dont agree with most rhetoricians today who argue that most speech today is Rhetorical. The main purpose of a speech in my opinion is not to persuade but to motivate.
  • The student has been initiated into the discourse community and is getting ready to join the conversation.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      If a person wants to be good at anything the key word is practice. The student referred to in this paragraph was completely lost in the beginning but soon the tasks ahead of him became simple. This is because of his dedication and practice. The same can be applied to rhetoric. In order to give a good persuasive speech one must practice practice and practice some more. Rhetoric is more than just language its a art.
    • Sean McMillan
       
      practice is definatley important. The more you practice rhetoric no matter how foreign it may seem at first, the better you become. And the better you become the more persuasive or informative your argument can be.
  • It might be interesting, too, to think of our students' writing as rhetoric, and help them understand it as rhetoric.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      Once again I dont think all writing should be looked at as rhetoric. Most writing should not be rhetoric in my opinion.
  • In the Middle Ages, rhetoric was concerned with sermons and letter- writing. In the Renaissance, its domain was extended to poetry and all else that we call "creative" writing. During the Enlightenment, rhetoricians and natural philosophers studied the role of language and rhetoric in the making of scientific knowledge.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      It is interesting to see how the view of rhetoric changes with the changing of culture.
  • Anyone who has lived with a cat or a dog can think of numerous ways these animals practice rhetoric in Kennedy's sense -- exert rhetorical energy -- to express their feelings and to get humans to do what they want.
  • Rhetoric implies choices, for both the speaker or writer and the audience. When we practice rhetoric we make decisions about our subject, audience, point of view, purpose, and message. . . . Furthermore, the audience must have a choice in responding to the message, must be able to adopt, modify, or reject it. . . . [R]hetoric is inoperative when the audience lacks the power to respond freely to the message
    • Dena Rennie
       
      This is very true (I accidentally read too far last week so now I'm switching since I wrote on the latter half last assignment). Rhetoric is about choices for both parties. The speaker/writer chooses the direction they wish to persuade their audience to feel, and hope that they choose to accept that direction. This is seen everywhere, but as the Presidential Debates are going on as I write this in the background, we will use this an example. McCain and Obama are both posing their choices tonight. They are posing their strategies which choices should be made about our country. Each of them discuss their point of view, and why it is important to them why do carry things out in such a way. We, as the audience, whether watching on TV or at the debates- will make a choice after the are finished (or maybe even before they are finished). Those choices could be to support Obama, McCain, or we can choose to support neither and simply not vote as neither, one may feel, is truly qualified. Even if you don't want to make a choice, eventually you will. And the beauty of this great country is that you're free to choose any of these options. In countries where freedom of speech or choice of how you will place your vote is obsolete- there really is no use for rhetoric, because you lack the power to respond to the messages they give. We might as well put the two names in a hat and draw for President without the power to respond. This is why I'm glad I live in America. We have the choice to respond to rhetoric. We still have most of our liberties that allow us a voice, a number of countries in the world don't have as they under communist rule.
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    Rhetoric has been around for thousands of years, and the reason why is because it evovles to better suit the times. It is almost a fundamental ellemant of what rhetoric is. What possibly would have persuaded someone thousands of years ago possibly would interest us today. The way we speak and persuade has changed, and that is a part of the evolution of rhetoric.
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    Even when rhetors do not intend to persuade outright, still they must be concerned with their credibility; with what their audiences already know and needs to know; with how their audiences are likely to feel about the subject; with how to begin, how to end, how to arrange the middle -- all these and more, to earn the greatest possible cooperation from their readers.
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    Rhetoric, like most things has a formula, an equation that if performed correctly achieves the goal of persuasion and credibility.
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    Even when rhetors do not intend to persuade outright, still they must be concerned with their credibility; with what their audiences already know and needs to know; with how their audiences are likely to feel about the subject; with how to begin, how to end, how to arrange the middle -- all these and more, to earn the greatest possible cooperation from their readers.
Ryan Meehan

Defining Rhetoric | Diigo - 0 views

  • Rhetoric can be used through visual, oral or written language.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      Rhetoric permeates almost every aspect of our lives. Can you imagine a time in which you are not acting rhetorically?
  • Plato said that rhetoric is the "art of enchanting the soul." Rhetoric is defined as "study of the technique and rules for using language effectively to please or persuade."
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      That Plato's quite a character. I'm not sure if rhetoric "enhances the soul," but it is certainly a means through which one can enhance an argument. Next week, we will explore a few popular common rhetorical appeals that will help us identify and name different types of rhetoric.
  • A person would not use colossal locutions from their extensive vernacular when speaking to a group of five-year-olds.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      Haha. Well said.
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  • Rhetoric is basically used by people to make sure that they convey their message in a way that the audience is able to grasp the concept of what the speaker is trying to get across.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      Right, which means that having a keen awareness of the audience to whom you are writing or speaking is of paramount importance. The concept of "audience" will be an important one this semester. I will often ask you to cater your writings to their intended audiences. And the reality is, even though you may not think about it, in most cases you do this automatically. For instance, in this discussion forum, you are probably writing in a style that you feel is appropriate for an audience of mostly freshmen college students.
  • The company usually isn't just saying "Our product is better than theirs" but, rather they use discreet methods to lure our minds into believing that the viewer can not live without this product and that they need to get it right away.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      Advertising is LOADED with rhetoric, and it's usually not all that subtle. Have you ever seen an Axe bodywash commercial? How about Cialis? In politics, generally rhetoric can be a bit more tricky. Fortunately, we're in prime season for political rhetoric and we will have a project that focuses on how the candidates each approach "being rhetorical."
  • Rhetoric is the use of style and form to pursuade or simply inform the reader of certain arguments or ideas. Rhetoric uses the literary techniques logos, ethos and pathos to appeal to a variety of readers and viewpoints. Logos is the logical appeal, pathos is the emotional appeal, and ethos is the appeal to the writers or anyones credibility. Using these techniques rhetoric is a powerful and useful way to argue a viewpoint or present and idea.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      Two thumbs-up for being concise AND covering a lot of ground. Also, good work digging up a good academic resource from RPI. I have used that exact source before in previous classes and may very well use it again this semester.
  • or convincing my parents that I need a new car for my birthday.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      This is crucial, and I am pleased that you raised this point. We are ALWAYS acting rhetorically, even when we aren't writing college papers or giving oral presentations.
Meghan Winn

Comp II Project I - Google Docs - 0 views

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  • Ursala
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Correctly spelled Ursula K. LeGuin
  • Ursala K. Le Guin
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Correctly spelled Ursula K. LeGuin
  • Ursala’s portrayal of a typical anti hero shows the many truths about life in how an isolated child such as this main character is able to portray.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Organization- Sentence doesn't make total sense
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Sentense doesn't make sense.
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  • Ursala
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Incorrect spelling
  • The people within this city are aware of these conditions and even though known as joyous people ignore the fact of this child and are compliant of the situation.
  • Childs
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- wrongly capitalized
  • accordance
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- order would make more sense here
  • Many cases torture can be used for greater of mankind,
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- sentense doesn't make sense
  • Many cases torture can be used for greater of mankind,
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention-sentence doesn't make sense
  • is clearly not what our government sees as a means of reliance for torture
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- sentence doesn't make sense
  • and or
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- and/or
  • Many times these instances with the small child although not acceptable in today’s society could potentially happen for mere fact of having a better life for others.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- commas are needed around "although not acceptable in today's society"
  • is revealing of torture
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- doesn't make sense
  • Levin’s
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- should just be Levin
  • and making
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- should be "and of making a choice"
  • Levins
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Levin
  • Levins
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention-Levin
  • Levins
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Levin
  • Levins
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Levin
  • to join his side of the instances
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- sentence doesn't make sense
  • along with one even stating she would want to watch.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- This is wrong. The mother said she would want to administer the torture not just watch.
  • Levins
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Levin
  • Levins
  • Levins
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Levin
  • for the better of human kind.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- doens't make sense
  • These instances are shown very well, and also persuade the reader that may not be for these circumstances to begin seeing Levins point of view and begin to reasoning with him.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- parts of sentence don't make sense, wrong tense used for reason
  • McCullagh gives examples of how our government will when needed perform acts of torture with no knowledge
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- commas needed around "when needed", need to specify who has no knowledge
  • Many times in our history presidents have had to make tough decisions on this topic and decide to go against all odds such as Lincoln suspending the Habeas Corpus act in 1861.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- sentence changes tense
  • and considered Lincolns
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- should be "and is considered Lincoln's"
  • Although this instance is proclaimed it is also beatable by the U.S. Constitution stating that
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- sentence doesn't make sense
  • it becomes the more ethical thing to achieve from the success of saving many more lives with the sacrifice of one.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- doesn't make sense
  • Foner claims “We must accept limitations on our liberties” meaning we should accept the presidents decisions on terrorism and the effects that the president decides to secretly take on these actions.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- This is wrong. Foner is just citing "sentiments that are likely to be with us for some time to come." The article is actually about how he thinks "the most patriotic act of all is the unyielding defense of civil liberties."
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- commas are also needed around the quote
  • by bringing people right of speech
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- doesn't make sense
  • “Wired” and “The Nation” in the articles discussed tend to have a similar style of writing
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- the authors have a similar style of writing not the magazine
  • Levins
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Levin
  • Articles by both Foner and McCullagh indicate how our government must take drastic matters into their own hands and deal with them in ways that the American public should not be aware of. These measures are important to our society and many times save thousands of lives. It seems as if in our society we are okay with these measures as long as the public does not hear of them. This ideal image of both Foner and McCullagh are imperative in the success in our American society today.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- This is wrong. As I stated earlier Foner completely disagrees with these actions and McCullagh never even says that he agress with the actions taken by our government.
  • Ultimately when reading these articles it comes clear that ethical basis comes into effect.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- doesn't make sense
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Organization- The closing doesn't really relate to the rest of the paper. Ethics is only mentioned one time before this.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Organization- There is no opening to the paper. You go right into discussing your first article instead of introducing your main idea.
  • Ursala
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Ursula
  • Levins
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Levin
  • Levin’s
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Convention- Levin
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Assignment Parameters- The paper does not really reflect the idea that was assigned. There is only one reference to rhetorical basis and style (pathos, logos, or ethos). You didn't always state whether the author was for or against torture. You also didn't really mention anything about the credentials or authority of any authors or sources so there was nothing about how this affects the success of the message. You also did not research any additional articles on torture so there was obviously no discussion about their specific claims or how they use situation and fact.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Organization- There are a lot of good details used in the paragraphs about LeGuin's story but many of the things talked about do not relate to the topic. The first two paragraphs are good discussion on the story but don't relate to the subject of torture and there is no mention about how this author uses rhetorical strategies.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      You use a lot of good details and quotes throughout the paper but the fact that you have incorrect references and have the whole idea of Foner's article wrong might make your paper look unreliable.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      The paper doesn't tie together very well. For one of the authors you talked about rhetoric, for one you talked about different aspects of the plot and for some you gave too much review of the information in the article and not enough about the message they were trying to portray and the writing style they used to get it across to the readers.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      The paragraphs about Levin are good. You use details that help develop your ideas and also state what kind of rhetoric style he uses to persuade his readers.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      The paragraphs about McCullagh have too much review and not enough of your ideas on his writing style, message or credentials.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      The paragraph about Foner's article is really confusing to me. Not only are your references not accurate with his article but I don't understand that sentence about how he claims "his views on terrorism by bringing people right of speech"?
    • Meghan Winn
       
      Your bibliography page is also supposed to be in MLA format, not just the link to the website.
Angela Moneck

Public Writing Assignment #1 - 80 views

Update: I just posted my comment onto YouTube now that it let me sign up. I did have to shorten what I originally wrote because of the character limit. Here is the link again: http://www.youtube.c...

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Ryan Meehan

myliblog: Uncle Bobby's Wedding - 0 views

  • Thank you for working with my assistant to allow me to fit your concerns about “Uncle Bobby's Wedding,” by Sarah S. Brannen, into our “reconsideration” process.
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      Opening with this comment welcomes the reader and makes me feel as if the author has truly considered the issue at hand.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I agree with Ashlee's statement. This is a warm welcoming to the reader.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      With this opening statement, the author gives the response a more personal feel. It also allows him to give a truthful answer without coming off as offensive.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Yes i also agree with the comments above, this is one of the very opening statements and it brings about a more personel level with the reader.
    • Brian Russo
       
      I agree as well with the comments above. This opening statement makes the reader feel welcome and ensures them that they are doing the best they can at reviewing policies and dealing with the issues at hand.
    • Brian Russo
       
      I agree with everyone. The opening statement makes the concerned parent feel welcome and that they are trying to deal with the situation as best they can.
    • Amanda Flores
       
      I like how he opens this by thanking her. It is very welcoming, like everyone has said.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      Great comment.
  • Here's what I understand to be your concern, based on your writings.
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      This comment gives me the impression that the author wants to make sure that what he thinks the issues is, actually is what the problem is. This shows caring and intelligence.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Again, I think Ashlee made a very good point with this. This is important in solving an issue.
    • Janice Perez Rivera
       
      I like the way he wrote this because he is letting her know what vibe he got from her writings. By him stating this there can be no confusion. All that she can say would be that he took it the wrong way. or that's not what she ment, if so from there on there could be more clarification if needed.
    • Dena Rennie
       
      It is very effective how he took direct quotes from the patron, so it is clear that he does not twist her words. It shows he does not want his point of view to be misconstrued.
    • Brian Russo
       
      I like the way that the writer is looking to clarify exactly what the issue at hand is so there is no confusion.
    • Amanda Flores
       
      He did good in putting this in here. He is letting her know what he feels she is concered with to see if it matches what the actual concers are. Like Ashlee said, it shows that he cares.
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      This paragraph makes me feel as if the author actually understands multiple viewpoints.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      I agree that this paragraph shows his understanding of many different views on the subject. I think citing these is effective because it lets the patron see the other views also.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I also think it is a good way for the author to either show or express that he is not just set on one point but actually multiple viewpoints.
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  • Your second issue is a little trickier. You say that the book is inappropriate, and I infer that your reason is the topic itself: gay marriage.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      I like how the author responded to this concern by citing examples from other childrens books and also giving logical reasons why these issues are addressed in childrens books.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      In this sentence we see that the defender has a clear understanding about what the argument is
  • Your third point, about the founders' vision of America, is something that has been a matter of keen interest to me most of my adult life.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      The author makes a good arguement here and supports his point very well. The fact that he wrote a book on the subject makes you believe that he knows alot about the topic and that his views about preserving our individual liberties are correct.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      Basically saying "I know more, if not as much as you do. So I'm probably right." Haha
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Yes i agree with Cybil, he basically just said that he knows his stuff in this subject matter.
  • which has reviewed and adopted these policies on behalf of our library
    • Angela Moneck
       
      This small statement is a way of persuading the reader. Without this piece of information, the reader may not trust the Board of Trustees or care about them.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      I agree, this statement provides an understanding of the authority of the Board of Trustees.
    • Brian Russo
       
      This statement shows the reader that they will make an informed decision and not a biased one.
  • Children's books deal with anything and everything. There are children's books about death (even suicide), adult alcoholism, family violence, and more.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      After stating that children's books deal with many different things, she went on to provide examples. This is important in persuading the reader to believe what she is saying.
    • Brian Russo
       
      I like the way Mr. Larue stated that children's books can deal with anything and everything, even things that may be inappropriate because it is relevant to the situation that those books are allowed at the library.
    • Brian Russo
       
      By showing that other children's books deal with issues about anything and everything it shows that all childrens books aren't always happy.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      I dont think that this paragraph is defended well at all. I am absolutely not convinced in this paragraph. Just because there are many disturbing childrens books does not make them right.
  • Even the most common fairy tales have their grim side: the father and stepmother of Hansel and Gretel, facing hunger and poverty, take the children into the woods, and abandon them to die!
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Again, she's providing specific examples--very effective. I thought it was interesting that she used an exclamation point instead of a simple period to end this statement. I think the point of it is to persuade the reader even more to listen to her. It's kind of like saying "hey, listen to this statement, it's important, and I'm completely right!"
    • Cybil Scott
       
      I love the part about the children's stories, it's so true! A great reminder to the reader to help get their point across.
    • Amanda Flores
       
      I agree with Angela. By stating these examples, he is more likely to persuade.
  • Stories help children name their fears, understand them, work out strategies for dealing with life.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      This is important in persuading the reader. She is going on further to prove her point.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Whoops, I mean he!
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Yes i agree, this was a good way to further persuade the reader.
    • Ryan Meehan
       
      Nice comment!
  • So what defines a children's book is the treatment, not the topic.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      This is good that they explained what actually defines the children's book since earlier on in the piece they said that the topic wasn't what defined it.
  • In fact, I even wrote a book about it
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Ethos! He wrote a book on the topic, making the reader think that he knows what he's talking about and that he is trustworthy.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      Wow! I bet that response was a bit of a sock. I would hate to strike an argument with someone who was a professional on the subject, especially if I didn't know they were beforehand.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      The Author shows much credibility on the subject, with this sentence.
  • My Webster's actually gives several definitions of marriage: “1. the state of being married; relation between husband and wife...; 2. the act of marrying, wedding; 3. the rite or form used in marrying; 4. any close or intimate union.” Definitions 2-4, even as far back as 1960, could be stretched to include a wedding between two men. Word definitions change; legal rights change. In some parts of America, at least today, gay marriage is legal.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      This is definitely a great way to persuade the reader. He's throwing out facts from the dictionary to prove his point. And the fact that he states that definitions and legal rights change is very true. Also, stating that gay marriage is legal in some parts of the country is great. I think he did a really good job in this particular paragraph.
    • Dena Rennie
       
      I think the first definition sort of weakened his argument about gay marriage, seeing as how the first definition says "relation between husband and wife." I would have also added an updated version of Webster's definition of marriage to see if the wording has changed. He goes on to say that word definitions change, but just because you have a 1960s definition of "dog," and say that word definitions change, does not mean that that specific word's meaning will be the one that changes.
    • Amanda Flores
       
      I feel that definitions from the dictionary are a great way to prove yourself. He is telling her the facts, you can't argue with that. But I do agree with Dena. The first definition does weaken his argument.
    • Brian Russo
       
      The fact that he states that gay marriage is legal in some parts of the country, is a good point in explaining to the reader that if something is legal, they can't say that writing a book about it is inappropriate.
  • But if the library is doing its job, there are lots of books in our collection that people won't agree with; there are certainly many that I object to. Library collections don't imply endorsement; they imply access to the many different ideas of our culture, which is precisely our purpose in public life.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      This is a very good point also.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      He brings up a good point by explaining that not everyone shares the same opinions and a good bit of the material present will recieve mixed feelings.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      I think it also helps that he earlier showed that he was opened to multiple views not just his own.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      Great point. The purpose of a library is to educate people. Many people go to the library for a general knowledge of many different topics. If someone personally wants to censor what they or there children read, that should be a personal decision.
    • Amanda Flores
       
      I agree with all of them, this is a great point.
    • Brian Russo
       
      He brings up a good point that he objects to certain books, but it doesn't mean that other people and cultures don't enjoy them. I also like the fact that he states that the library doesn't endorse any of the books people may deem innapropriate but they are there for people who want them.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      I think that this a good point. There are many things that are disagreeable and should be disagreeable
  • I do appreciate many things: your obvious value of reading, your frank and loving relationship with your child, your willingness to raise issues of importance to you in the public square, and more. Thank you, very much, for taking the time to raise your concerns with me.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      He is being very respectful about the whole issue.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      You do not find that to often.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      Jamie does a good job explaining his decision, while still being respectful of the womans views. I personally think this shows a reflection of his character.
    • Janice Perez Rivera
       
      this was good very persuasive.. ( it's like the old saying " kill people with kindness) she cannot get mad at the way he ended this.
    • Dena Rennie
       
      That was very reputable of Jamie to respond to the fact that the woman does care about her family and this is why she raised the issue. It shows how respectful of others he is.
    • Brian Russo
       
      I like the way he ended this on a positive note even though he didn't give the decision that the patron wanted.
    • Amanda Flores
       
      I really like how he said this. It shows that he is very respectful. I also agree with Alex, this does show the a reflection of his character.
  • I even hauled out my favorite Webster's
    • Garrett Granger
       
      I like how the author even looks into the sources provided by the individual filing the complaint. This shows that he has truly looked over the claims and is taking the issue seriously.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Yes, i agree with Garrett on this one. I like how the author looked over the source to let it be known that the author know's what he is talking about.
  • Little Red Riding Hood (in the original version, anyhow) was eaten by the wolf along with granny.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      The usage of specific examples to show that not all children's stories have happy endings is very effective.
  • But another book in our collection, “Daddy's Roommate,” was requested by a mother whose husband left her, and their young son, for another man.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      This statement shows that while some may find certain things inappropriate, the same things may be hepful to others. And in this case, a similar book proved to be a helpful tool for a different mother.
    • Brian Russo
       
      This is a valid statement. Different personal circumstances allow for different interpretations of things. What may be helpful to one person, may be innapropriate to another.
  • has spent time thinking about the context in which the library operates, and thoughtfully considered the occasional discomfort (with our culture or constituents) that might result.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      Assures the reader that their feelings have been considered. Very persuasive.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      Here, we assume that the laws and regulations have been thought over and agreed upon by a credible authority. The last sentance in this paragraph is very important. When running a public service there is always going to be someone that is unhappy. Utilitarianism is important in making these decisions, "the greatest good for the greatest number".
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      I agree with Cybil here. As I start reading this article I become more and more convinced that the Board of Trustees are a credible source.
  • Although I suspect you may not agree with my decision, I hope it's clear that I've given it a great deal of thought, and believe it is in accordance with both our guiding principles, and those, incidentally, of the founders of our nation.
  • I have been assured that you have received and viewed our relevant policies: the Library Bill of Rights, the Freedom to Read, Free Access to Libraries for Minors, the Freedom to View, and our Reconsideration Policy
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      Jamie describes the rules and regulations of public libraries here. He is building his case with firm evidence that will help the woman understand his decision.
    • Janice Perez Rivera
       
      I agree with you completely. By him bring up the rules states that he is bringing up facts. With facts behind the decision that he is making the lady can't really say that he is wrong she can only have a opinion since he has a fact.
    • Amanda Flores
       
      I agree with the both of you. You two said it all.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      This is very persuasive because the person defending the piece seems to be well educated. A good education is one of the most credibe factors concerning a person.
  • You directed me to the SarahBrannen.com site, which I also reviewed. I got a copy of “Uncle Bobby's Wedding” today, and read it.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      He shows that he is making his own decisions, and researching the topic. Jamie wants to understand why there is an issue and gain supportive evidence why he makes the decision that he does.
  • First, I think you're right that the purpose of the book is to show a central event, the wedding of two male characters, as no big thing. The emotional center of the story, of course, is Chloe's fear that she's losing a favorite uncle to another relationship. That fear, I think, is real enough to be an issue for a lot of young children.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      In making a constructive argument for a position, the sympathy of the woman is needed. Obviously she thinks strongly about her opinion, and swaying her mind is not going to be easy. Clarifying the situation in a non assertive manner is a step forward in making his case.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      In an argument it is extremely important to be able to understand the position of the other person. The Author does a great job portraying this in this paragraph.
  • His thesis is that both the purpose and power of children's literature is to help young people begin to make sense of the world.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      Making sense of the world is not an easy thing. Intorducing children to very real circumstances when they are young gives them an advantage in dealing with issues that will undoubtedly face them in their lifetime. I dont think it is how long someone can sugar coat that shapes personal opinions, but experience and informed decision making.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      Once again I am absolutely not convinced by this. This is just one mans opinion. My opinion is that children's books are supposed to be entertaining. I dont think a five year old needs to understand the world.
  • They constitute a barrier to discovery and use. The books there – and some very fine ones -- just got lost. In the second case, I believe that every book in the children's area, particularly in the area where usually the parent is reading the book aloud, involves parental guidance.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      Censorship has long been banned and for good reason. Everyone wants freedom of speech for themself, but not necesarily for others. Parents are there to give guidence, and support. Not to censor their childrens lives and introduce them to a non-existent world.
    • Brian Russo
       
      I agree with Alex on that. Even though the books involve parental guidence, it isn't the parents job to formulate their opinions by themselves. I completely agree that people want everyone else censored, but at the same time want to be able to say whatever they want. It can't work both ways.
    • Brian Russo
       
      I agree with Alex, people want censorship, but only when its not them being censored. It can't work both ways.
  • In short, most of the books we have are designed not to interfere with parents' notions of how to raise their children, but to support them.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      Why else would children books be used. They are stories that most times use fantasy and fiction to teach a lesson.
    • Brian Russo
       
      It is a good point that not all parents are looking for the same thing. One parent may want to teach their kids to accept gay people and another may teach them that its wrong and to not accept them.
  • that that kind of decision is up to the parents, not the library. Because here's the truth of the matter: not every parent has the same value system.
  • First, you believe that “the book is specifically designed to normalize gay marriage and is targeted toward the 2-7 year old age group.” Your second key concern is that you “find it inappropriate that this type of literature is available to this age
  • First, you believe that “the book is specifically designed to normalize gay marriage and is targeted toward the 2-7 year old age group.” Your second key concern is that you “find it
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      This also portrays that the Author is credible. In this paragraph the author makes clear that he understands the womens arguments about the piece. By this paragraph the lady arguing against the piece can better understand what the author has to say.
  • In Little Red Riding Hood, they learn not to talk to big bad strangers. Of course, not all children's books deal with
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      This is much more convincing. There are examples where some disturbing children books can be good.
  • The book is published by G. P. Putnam's Sons, “a division of Penguin Young Readers Group.” Th
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      This is convincing. The women can look this up to see if it is a credible source.
  • You feel that a book about gay marriage is inappropriate
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      I defenitely agree that a book about homosexuality is innaproprite for a child.
  • government was based on the idea that the purpose of the state was to preserve individual liberties, not to dictate them. The
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      This is true. People should have rights. I dont think homosexuality is wrong. I do think it is wrong though when it is put into Children's books. I think this abnormal psyche could harm youth.
  • How then, can we claim that the founders would support the restriction of access to a book that really is just about an idea, to be accepted or rejected as you choose? What harm has this book
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      How can a child make such a decision?
  • Recently, a library patron challenged (urged a reconsideration of the ownership or placement of) a book called "Uncle Bobby's Wedding.
  • ownership
  • I suspect the book will get a lot of challenges in 2008-2009. So I offer my response, purging the patron's name, for other librarians.
  • You suggested that the book could be “placed in an area designating the subject matter,” or “labeled for parental guidance” by stating that “some material may be inappropriate for young children.” I have two responses.
  • commented
  • myliblog
  •  
    "Recently, a library patron challenged (urged a reconsideration of the ownership or placement of) a book called "Uncle Bobby's Wedding." Honestly, I hadn't even heard of it until that complaint. But I did read the book, and responded to the patron, who challenged the item through email and requested that I respond online (not via snail-mail) about her concerns."
  •  
    Here Jamie is stating the facts that the lady stated which are extremely important because they are true.
  •  
    When Jamies states that Sara Brannen was trying to portray that gay marriage is normal.... Sara was not focusing on what was important which was the relationship between the uncle and the young person. i like the fact that he pointed that out.
Dena Rennie

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  • War, and
    • Cybil Scott
       
      perhaps a semi colon here
  • states “Just
    • Cybil Scott
       
      comma after states
  • “the ‘Constitution’s “father” James Madison”.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      ?????? too many quotations?
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  • that “no
    • Cybil Scott
       
      comma
  • stifle
    • Cybil Scott
       
      stifles
  • "false, scandalous and malicious writing or writings against the government of the United States, or either house of the Congress of the United States or the president of the United States."
    • Cybil Scott
       
      you may have to site this.
  • Michael Levin
    • Dena Rennie
       
      You need a tab here if it's a new paragraph. =)
  • as torture is justified only to save lives (not extort confessions or recantations), it is justifiably administered only to those known to hold innocent lives in their hands. Ah, but how can the authorities ever be sure they have the right malefactor? Isn't there a danger of error and abuse? Won't we turn into them?”
    • Dena Rennie
       
      I don't know if you're using MLA format or not- but you might need to site this at the end of the quote.
  • “Self-imposed silence is as debilitating to a democracy as censorship.”
    • Dena Rennie
       
      what's the source on this?
  • House Majority Leader Dick Armey
    • Dena Rennie
       
      Can you think of any other way to word that? I know that's his title, but that seems really awkward reading it.
  • t "We
    • Dena Rennie
       
      comma after *that*
  • McCullaghs
    • Dena Rennie
       
      need an apostrophe unless you're talking about more than one McCullagh.
  • In 1978
    • Dena Rennie
       
      you need a comma after the year.
    • Dena Rennie
       
      Really good work overall, your biggest problem seemed to be grammatical errors which are the easiet to make. I don't know what sort of formatting you are using, which makes it hard to judge on what you should and should not site- but other than that I think it's a really good paper. Also- if you have your works cited page ready, that would be good to post sometime soon. Depending on what format style you used, mistakes are easily made with that as well. (p.s.- sorry it's so late, these last couple of weeks have been really hectic for me and I'm trying to get caught back up in all my classes! =/ my bad!)
    • Dena Rennie
       
      also, after reading over it once again, the last half of the paper seems a little less organized than the first half. The first part flows very well, but the last couple of paragraphs seems to jump ideas a little bit. You might try rewording the first sentences of the paragraphs and that should help it.
  • f Declan McCullagh’s dissertation on the
    • Dena Rennie
       
      you might wanna site where you found out its his dissertation. I don't think I remember reading that in the article.
    • Dena Rennie
       
      I like how you positioned these two paragraphs together since they were similar articles. I felt both had a lot of similar content and made it flow very nicely.
  • cCullaghs comments somewhat mirror those of Foner’s, as he gives a brief history
    • Dena Rennie
       
      I think this statement should probably go somewhere closer to the beginning. By now after reading the paragraph, it already seems a little bit of a given.
  • In the case of the people of Omelas, the same principles that apply to the cases of the United States apply there as well. They were a simple group of people, who were not by any means barbarians or killers, but were trying to be happy, and they needed few laws. A culture in which violent is an alien factor, innocent and without the fear of crime can truly thrive without an abundance of rules and regulations.  In the cases of situations like Abu Ghraib, the notorious prison in which prisoners were regularly executed, tortured, and forced to live under the worst conditions.
    • Dena Rennie
       
      You might wanna clarify on who wrote about these subjects since you throw four names out there, and you almost always want to write as if your audience has no idea who wrote what.
  • The New Yorker
    • Dena Rennie
       
      I wanna say this should be italicized, but I'm not entirely sure. I know something should be done to distinguish it- but I am not entirely sure what.
Sean McMillan

Gutierrez Michael - 0 views

    • Sean McMillan
       
      You need a concise thesis statement.
  • He quotes that National Security
    • Sean McMillan
       
      awkward wording.
  • He believes in treating all Americans equally. McCain quotes “Don’t increase taxes on anybody”. McCain wants to keep taxes the way they are. This is ethical, logical, and fair to all American citizens.
    • Sean McMillan
       
      choppy, cite quote.
    • Sean McMillan
       
      Good start on ethos, but you need to further explain all your points.
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  • In all I see Obama as a better rhetorical speaker; he appears more comfortable in oral or written communication. I do view John McCain as a better candidate for the position of President of The United States.
    • Sean McMillan
       
      support you claims as to why.
    • Sean McMillan
       
      find a concise overall conclusion based on rhetoric and support whatever claims you make.
  • The President of The United States, probably the most important position in the world, will be chosen. Rhetoric, skill in the effective use of speech, will be a crucial factor in determining the next President (Merriam Websters Collegiate Dictionary). Barack Obama and John McCain, the two main Presidential candidates, must be able to persuade American citizens toward their view.
    • Sean McMillan
       
      you use the same sentence struction 3 times in a row. Mix up your structures and usage.
  • Obama convinces his audience by telling them exactly what they want to hear. Obama convinces via the ideals of logos. Most of his answers to the elements which lay before him make perfect logical sense. Obama uses pathos in his Rhetoric. One hears passion and concern in the words of Obama. Ethos can also be found in many of Obama’s ideals. Obama seems to be ethical and moral by the ideas he has presented to American citizens.
    • Sean McMillan
       
      short, choppy writing. Assumed too many social norms.
    • Sean McMillan
       
      expand on all your points and use specific examples and quotes to support your claims.
  • Essay
    • Sean McMillan
       
      Just work on your style and thought process. Your writing seems a little choppy and unconcise. Try to find a simple to the point thesis and conclusion and work on the flow of your thoght process. Also just some small grammatical and wording mistakes.
  • this.
    • Sean McMillan
       
      This paragraph seems a little lost, none of the points pertain to your thesis. Maybe combine with the previous or next paragraph, or even add some thoughts on rhetoric pertaining to these points.
  • paper.
    • Sean McMillan
       
      This paragraph gets closest to your thesis idea, try to combine this and work it in with some of the earlier information. to make a very concise simple thesis statement.
  • Works cited
    • Sean McMillan
       
      mla format?
  • Iraq).
    • Sean McMillan
       
      this is a lot of good information, you just need to work in explanations from what all this means as far as obama's approach to rhetoric. Maybe how the audience would react to all these points.
Amanda Flores

Oral rhetoric vs. Written rhe... - 0 views

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  • disagree with
    • Garrett Granger
       
      Maybe try using the word "oppose" here.
  • Some resources that support these claims are “Images in Words: Presidential Rhetoric, Charisma, and Greatness” by Cynthia G. Emrich, Holly H. Brower, Jack M. Feldman and Howard Garland,  “Survival of the Fittest: Rhetoric during the Course of an Election Campaign” by Jennifer Jerit, “Visual Rhetoric in Advertising: Text-Interpretive, Experimental, and Reader-Response Analyses” by Edward F. McQuarrie and David Glen Mick, “Support of Content and Rhetorical Processes of Writing: Effects on the Writing Process and the Written Product” by Kirsten R. Butcher and Walter Kintsch and, “The Rhetoric Institute: Notes and Comments” by Patricia Sullivan.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      I don't think it's necessary to list your sources here.
    • Amanda Flores
       
      When you are using these sources throughout your paper, you should state the person's creditablity. If not, what you are trying to back up won't be as effective.
  • these kinds of tactics are successful because “appeals that are high in emotional content will survive longer than other types of arguments.”
    • Garrett Granger
       
      This is a good example of backing your claims with factual information.
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  • Jerit illuminates, “arguments that cause citizens to feel angry might inspire them to mobilize for or against a particular candidate.”
    • Garrett Granger
       
      Again, good usage of information from one of your source to support your claims.
  • Able minded Barrack Obama’s oral speech seems to be more successful than John McCain’s oral speech in their attempts to achieve persuasion.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      Maybe leave this closing statement at the end of the previous paragraph. It makes this one a little confusing.
  • “Presidents who engaged in more image-based rhetoric in their inaugural addresses were rated higher in charisma.”  They say, “Followers cannot act on messages they do not hear… people who are vivid, whether in appearance, manner or speech are more salient, and hence attract more attention than those who are not.”                                                                                   
    • Garrett Granger
       
      I think you are relying too much on quotes toward the end of the paragraph.
    • Amanda Flores
       
      Instead of using all the quotes, you could summarize. There are good points, just sum them up instead of quoting.
  • In his oral speech
    • Garrett Granger
       
      It gets a little confusing the way you go back and forth when comparing the different works by each candidate.
  • The use of ethos pathos and logos were used by Barack Obama and John McCain in written and oral speeches they gave.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      Be sure to seperate the paragraphs here.
  • written speech
Meghan Winn

Hours upon hours of searching... - 0 views

shared by Meghan Winn on 25 Nov 08 - No Cached
  • provided
  • Their dedicated team took over the extremely valuable work provided by Schwab Learning, another non-profit that was the pre-curser to GreatSchools from of January of 2008 and all the information once provided by the Schwab Learn will be incorporated into the GreatSchools website.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      this sentence is very confusing
  • provided
    • Meghan Winn
       
      change of tense (providing)
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  • provides parents, guardians, and concerned citizens a voice
    • Meghan Winn
       
      i think you mean it provides them a place to voice their issues
  • in a form of a forum.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      'in the form of a forum' might make more sense
  • would have proven
    • Meghan Winn
       
      'could' might be more appropriate since the site is still there and still has users
  • which by being ignorant is a social injustice in itself.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      kind of makes the sentence confusing
  • you understand your
    • Meghan Winn
       
      avoid the words 'you' and 'your'.. remember the point of view writing tip that we were supposed to read a few weeks ago!
    • Meghan Winn
  • difficulty whether
    • Meghan Winn
       
      if there supposed to be a connecting word here?
  • But it is very impossible to do it
    • Meghan Winn
       
      confusing.. what is 'it'?
  • student
    • Meghan Winn
       
      should be plural
  • who are more knowledgable with knowing how
    • Meghan Winn
       
      'with knowing' should be replaced with a word like 'about'
  • Actually, not only one, several replies back actually.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      you don't need to say actually twice
  • in spreading out knowledge with dealing certain situations.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      doesn't make sense
  • responded to
    • Meghan Winn
       
      you should add something like 'with the idea' between these two words
  • incorporate the schoolwork to basketball
    • Meghan Winn
       
      kind of confusing.. might make more sense to say 'relates the schoolwork to basketball' or 'incorporates their schoolwork and basketball'
  • The fact of the matter is that by using certain sites one can fight the right fight if one can believe in it.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      sentence is not very clear
  • picture has
    • Meghan Winn
       
      'shows' might make more sense than 'has'
  • in depicting in
    • Meghan Winn
       
      confusing
  • you, the parent or guardian, the chance to be this teacher with your child. Though recall that it doesn't mean that it requires you to peer over your child's shoulder, it requires you to help your child in any manner possible because in the end of your child's life, the biggest teacher was you.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      refer back to what I said about avoiding you and your earlier.. you use them a lot in these sentences
  • to make
    • Meghan Winn
       
      'use' could sound better
  • matter that can through
    • Meghan Winn
       
      not very clear
  • what you
    • Meghan Winn
       
      POV- avoid 'you'
  • in search for help
    • Meghan Winn
       
      'in search of help' might make more sense
  • In the future, I hope this site gets more and more popular as the years progress.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      you don't need to say both 'in the future' and 'as the years progress'.. they kind of mean the same thing
  • finding
    • Meghan Winn
       
      change of tense
  • get the education they deserve
    • Meghan Winn
       
      this is not needed and makes your sentence sound very repetitive
  • future ,
    • Meghan Winn
       
      no space needed
  • behind in life for the rest of their lives.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      word choice makes this sound confusing
  • If being an activist becomes a problem then it is no longer activism.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      what does this mean?
  • persuading
    • Meghan Winn
       
      change of tense
  • It is as simple as that.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      repetitive.. you just used this sentence
    • Meghan Winn
       
      You use some very good details and have some good ideas for improving this webpage.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      You had some confusing sentences but I'm sure if you fixed those your paper would be much more clear and easy to read.
Janice Perez Rivera

Angela Moneck - 0 views

  • It is the act of writing or speaking effectively. This “essential element of human action” includes many different forms
    • Charlotte Randolph
       
      These two sentences to me seem kind of choppy. They are complete sentences but I feel like they could be combined.
  • Ethos relies on the character of the speaker. Pathos evokes emotion from the audience and logos relies on logic or reason to prove a point.
    • Charlotte Randolph
       
      Try to combine these sentences too.
  • Although Biden does not agree with the war at this point, at the beginning, he greatly supported the invasion of Iraq. Since then, he has now become one of the “war’s toughest critics.”
    • Charlotte Randolph
       
      Wow I didn't know that he supported it in the beginning.
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    • Charlotte Randolph
       
      You need to write more, it is supposed to be 1250 words minimum.
  • In the only 2008 vice presidential
    • Janice Perez Rivera
       
      take out the word only. it's extra .. In the 2008 vice presidential....
  • The war hits close to home with the vice presidential nominee. His son Beau is now in Iraq. He commented that he did not want his son going, but also does not want his grandchildren to have to go back later on
    • Janice Perez Rivera
       
      very interesting point. I did not know that the war for him was so close to home like you stated. i also did not know that he supported the war at first.
  • “How we leave [Iraq] makes a big difference.”
    • Janice Perez Rivera
       
      notice how he used the word "we" which makes the audience really connect with him. Because we includes everyone.
  •     Sarah Palin seems to feel more comfortable with oral rather than written communication. In her oral communication, it is obvious that she holds back nothing.
    • Janice Perez Rivera
       
      this is a very good and interesting point that you brought out
Michael Gutierrez

Alex Gutierrez - 0 views

  • tury huma
    • Garrett Granger
       
      century, human
  • people
    • Garrett Granger
       
      Maybe use "others" here, instead of people?
  • Aristotle is “Credible,
    • Garrett Granger
       
      Aristotle is, "credible...
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  • r.” (Ramage and Bean 1).
    • Garrett Granger
       
      author" (Ramage and Bean 1).
  • America and
    • Garrett Granger
       
      America, and
  • what they are.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      Maybe can add: and how they have evolved into what they are today.
  • ss.”(Foner 1).
    • Garrett Granger
       
      progress" (Foner 1).
  • life, but we collectively
    • Garrett Granger
       
      life; but we all collectively have not.
  • people into what we are.
    • Garrett Granger
       
      You maybe are missing a couple of words here?? This doesn't make sense because you have not conveyed your full thought it seems.
  • is without a doubt an
    • Garrett Granger
       
      is without a doubt, an...
  • He has
    • Garrett Granger
       
      Try not to start off this sentence the same as you did the previous one. Rearrange this sentence or possibly combine the two into something like... He has succeeded in numerous accomplishments and has been honored....
  • Rhetoric plays an important role in the articles, journals, reviews, films and discussions that surround them.
  • He has
  • on certain points.
  • Every person has a personal opinion or bias on controversial issues, and it is up to each and every person to distinguish their personal and moral truth.
  • Pathos is another element
  • logos
  • which I find to be the most important to us as living, thinking individuals
  • He has been honored with respectable awards, and achievements, which add to the effectiveness and reliability of his writings.
  • Levin is well known as having controversial views
  • Levin asks a few rhetorical questions
  • Ethos can also work against people when discussing issues
  • mandatory.” He
  • People will be less susceptive to his views on social liberties than if he were a professor, historian, doctor, or other professional
  • tells a story of great happiness that depends on great misery (torture) for a small innocent child
  • Omelas
  • So, in essence, his rhetorical approach had an opposite effect on me.
  • No author wrote in their article, accept my message because I say so or because if you don’t
  • The context in which articles are published does not have great importance to me personally
  • His article discusses torture, and morality.
  • His article discusses torture, and morality.
  • barbaric.” (Levin 1)
  • emotions.” (Ramage, Bean 1).
  • Declan McCullagh, is a journalist, photographer, and programmer. In his article, “Why Liberty Suffers in Wartime”, he discusses the issue of restrained liberty in time of war.
  • is “a means of
  • environment, our relationships
  • publications she incorporates, a
  • indeed.” (Le Guinn 4).
  • minister earned
  • humanity.” (Hunsinger 1)
  • He uses
  • He uses
  • He uses
  • reasoning.” (Ramage and Bean 1).
  • beings we
  • degrees it
  • us. It
  • c that m
  • different, it allows
  • and the source of each
  • In considering
Ashlee Duckworth

Vincent DiDomenico - 0 views

shared by Ashlee Duckworth on 16 Oct 08 - Cached
  • rather poetically
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      Nice touch, Great way to accentuate your idea.
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      You have a good paragraph here with your ideas, However I feel like there are too many questions.
  • due the
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      due to the
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  • due to
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      overuse of phrase
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      ignore this comment... i dont know why it was put here!
  • due to
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      over use of the phrase
  • In this way
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      unnecessary
  •  In this way
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      unnecessary
  • historian was
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      historian, he was
  • Being a renowned historian was recognized for his works people would be much more inclined to agree with him than McCullagh’s weaker record of a few articles. 
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      This whole sentence is confusing to me!
  • The both of them
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      Could just start the sentrence with "Both of them"
  • ethos and Logos
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      Why is one capitalized and the other is not?
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      These few short sentences on publication are great, however I don't feel you provide enough evidence.
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      No transitional phrases!
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      This paragraph, although informational and very persuasive, does not represent the rhetorical issues the paper is supposed to deal with. I think the paper was supposed to be about how the authors used rhetoric and style to write their journals, not actually about torture.
  • So too does the personal philosophies of the many influence the personal philosophies of the few
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      WHAT?!?!?!
  • To conclude,
    • Ashlee Duckworth
       
      Good transition
  •  
    What is the main focus of the paper? I don't really feel like the paper is getting any point across.
  •  
    Your word choice is appropriate for the audience. Could use a few more transitional phrases. Nice job keeping each paragraph on topic. Maybe you could use a couple more paragraphs to develop a main idea for the paper.
Angela Moneck

Rhetorical analysis - 0 views

  • "Why Liberty Suffers in Wartime".
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I noticed that you put puncuations outside the quotation marks in some parts of your paper, but I'm pretty sure they're supposed to go on the inside of the quotation marks.
  • He used the references to past mistakes very well but relied on them too heavily.
  • connect
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  • connect
    • Angela Moneck
       
      This should be "connected," not "connect."
  • where he said "All of us today share a feeling of grief and outrage over the events of September 11 and a desire that those responsible for mass murder be brought to justice. But at times of crisis the most patriotic act of all is the unyielding defense of civil liberties, the right to dissent and equality before the law for all Americans"(foner).
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I believe that there should be a comma in between the word "said" and "All" before your quote. Also, Foner's name at the end of the quote should be capitalized.
  • One thing Foner could have improved on, like many of the other writers discussed, is his use of other professionals.  When a writer uses ideas, theories, or quotes from other field experts it makes the reader feel that he really did his homework and successfully researched and studied the topic, it almost acts as a security blanket reassuring the reader.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I think this is a very good point. It seems like you really took a lot of time to analyze the works. Good job!
  • It felt as is
    • Angela Moneck
       
      The word "is" should be "if."
  • Rhetoric is one of the most important part
  • Further proving that it's not always what you say, but how you say it.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I like the way this was said. It's very true!
  • Rhetoric, simply put, is the ability to effectively use language.  Rhetoric relies on three basic appeals to capture an audience: logos, ethos, and pathos.  Logos, or the logical appeal, bolsters an argument by supplying data, facts, or any method of logic.  Ethos, the appeal to ones emotions, connects the reader by using personal experience or "tugging heartstrings".  The last appeal, pathos, is the appeal of the publishers and writers credibility.  This being said, the four writers, LeGuin, Levin, McCullagh and Foner show how diverse rhetoric is and how a writer can manipulate any of these three appeals to gain and inform an audience.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I like your introduction. It's good that you explained what rhetoric was and how it's used because when writing pubilcly, all readers may not know exactly what you're talking about.
  • tackles
    • Angela Moneck
       
      I like that you used the word "tackles" instead of some other not-so-exciting verbs.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Conventions-I didn't mean to pick on your grammer and puncuation, but that was all I could really pick on! The rest of your paper, I thought, was very good. Most of the stuff I could critique involved small grammatical errors, (which everyone makes), especially on papers.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Oh, also, in the Conventions area, your references were correct. You used the correct format and used in-text citations, so there is definitely no plagiarism is present.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Assignment Parameters-I thought you did a VERY good job with keeping on topic. You explained everything that you needed to explain to the reader including if the author's credentials effected their work, what rhetoric they used, etc. It was easy to understand exactly what you were saying.
  • She also refers to the child as "it" helping us to understand how the child as viewed, as an "it" rather than a "whom".
    • Angela Moneck
       
      This is a very good analysis.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Style-You chose good words to use, making the paper not boring. You switched some of the verbs and descriptions you used, which is very important, especially in a long paper. Your sentences varied with construction, which is also a good thing. You kept your opinion out of the paper and kept the point of view as being non-biased.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      Overall I thought your paper was very good. I can tell you really took time to analyze the works, figure out what the author was attempting to say, and answer all the questions that were assigned.
    • Angela Moneck
       
      It won't let me highlight another section that was already highlighted, but I really liked that you used "tugging heartstrings" to describe the use of pathos.
Cybil Scott

Alex Gutierrez - 0 views

shared by Cybil Scott on 28 Nov 08 - No Cached
  • Equal access to clean water, healthcare, education, influence in political issues, and access to systems within a society are all social injustices that plague our world. Many individuals have come together, forming groups and communities in an a
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      I dont see how any of these are social injustices.
  • poverty
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      corruption
  • The choices were made indirectly for them, and without money and power had no say or influence.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      This sentence needs to be changed. Watch sentence structure
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  • The second reason is political ineptitude, or lack of influence due to religion, ethnicity or gender. Rwanda is made up of many different tribes.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      Dont understand this sentence
  • By supporting those that have been directly affected provides a foundation with which they can gain confidence to take action.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      I dont understand this sentence completely.
  • The main goals of social injustice groups are to put an end to harsh societal realities, and help the downtrodden to recover.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      You can never eliminate them completely
  • Some may find this statement to be ironic in the fact that social injustices are due to humans taking advantage of others.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      I dont completely agree with this Alex
  • where the strong survive.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      In this situation I do not completely agree. The strong dont survive genocide.
  • somewhat
    • Cybil Scott
       
      repetitive
  • affects
    • Cybil Scott
       
      effects
  • American’s
    • Cybil Scott
       
      no apostrophe here
  • Tutsi’s
    • Cybil Scott
       
      no apostrophe
  • 2 U.S.
    • Cybil Scott
       
      write out the numbers
  • believe that humans should have a somewhat innate human condition
    • Cybil Scott
       
      they do? and what does that mean exactly?
  • So I plan to stay active in the ONE community and do my small parts in helping our world progress
    • Cybil Scott
       
      i dont feel as if this essay was about personal reflection. how did you feel, how did you interact with the online community?
  • but to some, however crazy it sounds is logical in their eyes
    • Cybil Scott
       
      should probably fix this sentence
Meghan Winn

ENC 1102 Project III - 0 views

shared by Meghan Winn on 26 Nov 08 - No Cached
    • Meghan Winn
       
      So far the paper isn't bad at all. It is very informational and well written. You use a lot of good details and everything is clear and understandable.
    • Meghan Winn
       
      In the paragraphs you have written you mainly just give details about Africa. When you continue writing I would make sure you address the topic more and tell of the websites visual rhetoric and your involvement in thier webpage. You should also try to critique their page and maybe give some ideas of your own.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Like Meghan said so far what you have is not that bad at all. I think the paper flows together very well and you have more than enough details in the first 2 paragraphs. I am assuming that there is going to be more written so be sure to address the visual rhetoric of the website that you viewed.
    • Angel Aramayo
       
      Again just make sure to include what you did and how you interacted with the website. anything that they did that caught your interest or anything that you did in regards with involvement on the website.
Michael Gutierrez

Gutierrez Michael - 0 views

  • Countries around the Globe
    • Dena Rennie
       
      Countries and Globe do not need to be capitalized.
  • Countries and Continents
    • Dena Rennie
       
      These don't need to be capitalized either.
  • After reviewing all the research I had collected, I decided to concentrate my efforts on the Continent of Africa. The social injustices and corruption concerning Africa is mind boggling.             For this particular assignment I decided to get involved with ACORD.
    • Dena Rennie
       
      This part sounds very redundant. I would try rewording this in a way so it doesn't sound so bland. You use the phrase "I decided" within two sentences of each other and they sit almost directly on top of one another.
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  • It is an Africa
    • Dena Rennie
       
      I'm guessing you mean "African"
    • Dena Rennie
       
      Overall, fairly well written. There are several grammatical errors, and words that are capitalized that don't need to be. I thought we were only supposed to write about one online community, not a variety- so I'm a little confused on that end. Maybe you could center your focus to a couple of sites and list them, that way it seems a little more credible and people who may become interested in can have a starting point as to where they get involved.
  • Since the beginning of human existence societies have had to deal with social injustices. Many wars have been fought concerning social injustices.
    • Michael Gutierrez
       
      Maybe try and combine these two sentances here.
  • Poverty and social inequality, around the world, is mainly caused by corruption. ACORD understands that in order to decrease poverty and social inequality it must halt corruption.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      where did this fact come from and is it a reliable source.
  • they do nothing to help the overall situation.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      doesnt really make sense. of course they are doing something to help the situation. Maybe reword this to make it sound not so contradicting.
  • poverty is just the tip of the iceberg.
    • Alex Gutierrez
       
      good analogy
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