I agree. Following the abrupt demise of Furl, the ability to export my data in its entirety has been a big comfort.


slinkygn wrote:
>It is *my* work on *my* data that makes it valuable to *me*. The concept that somehow I would not be able to possess or access my data without being forced to use a specific brand of tool is unacceptable.

Hi Joel / Diigo,

It's great to know that you're working hard on improved caching abilities - the service seems to have immense potential. Could you let us know more about how caching will work after the upgrade?

- Will we be able to export cached pages? - I've seen requests in the forums (e.g., http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/1981) but no answers. It's absolutely important to give users control over their data, to back up and manipulate as desired.
- Will users be notified if caching is unsuccessful? - It's not fun to find data missing when you most need it.
- Will the page be cached instantaneously upon bookmarking? - This matters when pages change frequently or become unavailable.
- Will Diigo be able to save multiple snapshots of a single URL, for example, if Alice and then Bob annotate a URL but the page has changed in the interim?
- What will be the delay, roughly, between bookmarking a page and its inclusion in full-text search results?
- Given the upcoming ability to upload a page from the toolbar (thanks!), will we be able to cache https or password-protected pages? - This would be useful for saving journal or subscription articles. Perhaps you could disable sharing for legal reasons, if necessary.
- Will cached pages include embedded images? - Some articles make *much* more sense when diagrams and illustrations are included. (Joel wrote in another thread, "Non web page bookmarks are not cached, such as PDF , JPG, Mp3" - but what happens when .jpg's are part of a bookmarked html page?)

Of course, for leisurely web browsing, the above points are relatively unimportant - but for research purposes, some users may find them highly relevant. Shedding some light on the road ahead will help forward-looking users develop sensible individual strategies for managing and archiving information.


Joel Liu wrote:
> this feature doesn't work for your recent bookmarks, because we are upgrading our system to support more archive options.

For those mainly interested in caching, check out iterasi (www.iterasi.net). It has some interesting features, such as automated, scheduled page caching, and the ability to cache pages that require login.

Disadvantages include a smaller community than Diigo, and no way to highlight or export cached pages.


David Corking wrote:
> > I'm looking for an alternative service that provides the caching features and does a good job...
>
> On the Export cache thread, slinkygn (another Furl user) mentioned a service called Evernote. I don't know it myself.

Hey Josh, I've migrated here from Furl as well. In case you missed the post above:

"After some further discussion, we will map topics to both tags and lists. That way, if some users do not like lists, they can easily delete them or ignore them. We've just made that change, so it will take effect for all new import. For those already have import successfully done, please initiate a new "import" - it will overwrite the old data..."


Josh K. wrote:
> I used Furl topics as tags, and Diigo imported them as lists. Is there a way to automatically convert my 740 lists into tags?

Maggie, thanks so much for the attention to transitioning users.

Would it be possible to add an indirect transfer mapping from Furl star ratings to tags (e.g., "rating-1," "rating-2," etc.)? It seems that under the existing scheme, Furl ratings vanish into the ether.

Also, can you tell us roughly when access to Furl will be completely disabled?

Thanks!


Maggie Tsai wrote:
> And the new import will map topics to both tags and lists. That way, if some users do not like lists, they can easily delete them or ignore them.