How does caching work? - 345 views
started by mavoris smith on 20 Feb 09
started by mavoris smith on 20 Feb 09
started by mavoris smith on 20 Feb 09
started by mavoris smith on 20 Feb 09
It's great to know that you're working hard on improved caching abilities - the service seems to have immense potential. Could you let us know more about how caching will work after the upgrade?
- Will we be able to export cached pages? - I've seen requests in the forums (e.g., http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/1981) but no answers. It's absolutely important to give users control over their data, to back up and manipulate as desired.
- Will users be notified if caching is unsuccessful? - It's not fun to find data missing when you most need it.
- Will the page be cached instantaneously upon bookmarking? - This matters when pages change frequently or become unavailable.
- Will Diigo be able to save multiple snapshots of a single URL, for example, if Alice and then Bob annotate a URL but the page has changed in the interim?
- What will be the delay, roughly, between bookmarking a page and its inclusion in full-text search results?
- Given the upcoming ability to upload a page from the toolbar (thanks!), will we be able to cache https or password-protected pages? - This would be useful for saving journal or subscription articles. Perhaps you could disable sharing for legal reasons, if necessary.
- Will cached pages include embedded images? - Some articles make *much* more sense when diagrams and illustrations are included. (Joel wrote in another thread, "Non web page bookmarks are not cached, such as PDF , JPG, Mp3" - but what happens when .jpg's are part of a bookmarked html page?)
Of course, for leisurely web browsing, the above points are relatively unimportant - but for research purposes, some users may find them highly relevant. Shedding some light on the road ahead will help forward-looking users develop sensible individual strategies for managing and archiving information.
Joel Liu wrote:
> this feature doesn't work for your recent bookmarks, because we are upgrading our system to support more archive options.
The whole point of existence of Furl is you can save your pages, and the save is supposed to be instant.
Now my "furl it!" bookmarklet no longer works and says
"Furl is being absorbed by Diigo and will be phased out. As a result, you can no longer save bookmarks to Furl. "
But I go to diigo and find the 'save' feature doesn't work worth a crap.
Needless to say, taking down a service that was working perfectly and replacing it with something that doesn't work isn't cool at all.
For as long as (remote) Diigo caching service is disabled, there are a variety of (local) workarounds.
Workarounds vary, according to the user's choice of operating system and browser; if you'd like advice please post a new topic with relevant details.
Kind regards
Graham
There are zillions of bookmarking services del.iciou, and all, and bookmarks are very easy to share (post bookmarks.html on the web).
So I see it apparent that while 'clipping' seems to work; Diigo is not really usable with caching not working.
It's a real disappointment; especially since I had so much cached stuff in furl that I probably have no way of getting to and exporting.
I'm looking for an alternative service that provides the caching features and does a good job...
I'm open to both for-free and pay services that can save and serve up saved versions of old web pages.
Without suffering the problems of archive.org (one robots.txt entry or request from a webmaster destroys the archives).
Just having a horrible time finding anything that works as well as Furl did for this.
Disadvantages include a smaller community than Diigo, and no way to highlight or export cached pages.
David Corking wrote:
> > I'm looking for an alternative service that provides the caching features and does a good job...
>
> On the Export cache thread, slinkygn (another Furl user) mentioned a service called Evernote. I don't know it myself.
http://groups.diigo.com/Web2/bookmark/tag/Evernote
http://groups.diigo.com/Web2/bookmark/tag/iterasi
Regards
Graham
> For as long as (remote) Diigo caching service is disabled, there are a variety of (local) workarounds.
> Kind regards
> Graham
Sorry if there is another thread somewhere else that already answers this - this one was the first search hit I got when searching Diigo groups for 'cache'.
From what I can tell, looking at the bookmarks I have added over the last week or so, none of them have been cached, so I assume caching still doesn't work. Are there any plans to reenable it, and if so do you have any idea when this is likely to be?
> From what I can tell, looking at the bookmarks I have added over
> the last week or so, none of them have been cached, so I assume
> caching still doesn't work.
For some bookmarks: caching occurs quickly. Today's example is added to http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/42959#8
I don't know what criteria (if any) affect the time frame within which caching occurs.
Looking at all my bookmarks, they've all been cached now, I should have waited a couple more hours :-)
@ Al Dente
@ David Corking
@ howard terry
@ James Hess
@ John L. Knight
@ mavoris smith
Are your Diigo cached copies OK?
(Furl caches are a separate issue.)
I received email about this topic being updated. To answer your inquiry, the page that I initially used to try Diigo out back in early February (discussed at the start of this topic) has now been cached. Other than being able to tell you it happened sometime after about a month past my initial posting and now, I have no idea when precisely it occurred. Other than that, I have no idea of the current state of Diigo caching because I don't use Diigo any longer. Hope this helps you.