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Graham Perrin

Please restore the ability to sort by date added/created (was: Library out of order! -I can't find things!) - 212 views

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started by Graham Perrin on 18 Oct 09
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  • Graham Perrin
    #2 Graham Perrin on 19 Oct 09
  • Graham Perrin
    #3 Graham Perrin on 19 Oct 09
     
    Bugged: http://www.diigo.com/bookmark/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sysinfo.org%2Fstartuplist.php?tab=people&gname=viewtabs
    - bookmarked in August 2005
    - misfiled under October 2009

    Inconsistency = over four years!
  • Graham Perrin
    #4 Graham Perrin on 19 Oct 09
     
    Moved from page 326 of my library to page 1 :-(

    Terrible.
  • Graham Perrin
    #5 Graham Perrin on 19 Oct 09
     
    The timeline of when things were first bookmarked becomes essential when I'm recalling and stringing together random but related things from weeks, months or years ago.

    Key point: at the time of bookmarking, the relationships between such things not easy to define. In the absence of a defined relationship:

    * the time line becomes my one, my only cloud of tags.

    If you break the timeline, if you move a bookmark from the date on which it entered the person's life, you break this beautifully easy way of recalling a part of one's life.

    The more I think about it, the more I realise:

    * the timeline is my most used cloud
      - the cloud is ultra-simple (line, linear, one-dimensional) and unmistakable.

    The timeline is a critically important feature.

    Side note: stuff like this is probably not interpreted through server-side logs, mouse clicks and the like. (If you suspect otherwise, I'd welcome any pointers.)
  • Joel Liu
    #6 Joel Liu on 19 Oct 09
     
    If you edit bookmarks in diigo site, the system will not change the date. However, if you make highlight in an old bookmarks, or rebookmark the page from the toolbar, the system will change the time. We want to solve the following problem by this design:
    Scenario:
    1) A user visits a page which was bookmarked months ago
    2) He/she forgets the page was bookmarked before
    3) He/she rebookmark the page, or add some highlights
    4) If they can't find it in first page of my library, they may think the bookmark was lost.
  • yc c
    #9 yc c on 19 Oct 09
     
    Agree - noticed the same problem and it is annoying.
    Maybe it can be set in the general preferences?

    As editing using the Diigolet updates the bookmarked time - it also gets re-submitted to the feed.
    (I'm subscribed to my recent bookmarks - caus I often need to get back to stuff I've just added)
    I generally edit tags using the Diigolet, that's where I see the content and know best which tags to use.

    PS: line height is too small when writing here - it makes me want to add line breaks.
  • Graham Perrin
    #10 Graham Perrin on 23 Oct 09
     
    I tried a workaround,
    http://www.diigo.com/search?adSScope=my&what=%2A&tab=200&sort=updated
    finds 6588 of 6609 bookmarks, and is sorted by date, but the sort is wrong; I need it sorted by

    added

    (not updated).
  • Graham Perrin
    #11 Graham Perrin on 23 Oct 09
     
    Already, I'm finding it difficult or impossible to find things that I read only a few days ago.

    It's really, really infuriating.

    Please, please, please, please, please put things back in order (sorted by date added) or add the option to sort in the required order.
  • Graham Perrin
    #13 Graham Perrin on 24 Oct 09
     
    As an ugly and tedious workaround, to guard against future confusion, I'm beginning to add three more tags to every bookmark:

    * year added
    * month added
    * date added

    so for example:

    * http://www.diigo.com/user/grahamperrin/2009
    * http://www.diigo.com/user/grahamperrin/2009-10
    * http://www.diigo.com/user/grahamperrin/2009-10-24

    I don't intend to plough through over 6,000 past bookmarks tagging them in that way, but for future bookmarks I'll have a tag-based method of sorting by date that's otherwise missing from my library.
  • Graham Perrin
    #14 Graham Perrin on 24 Oct 09
     
    …  code for a modified
    Post to Diigo
    that includes the three tags: http://groups.diigo.com/group/Diigo_HQ/content/1028273
  • Graham Perrin
    #15 Graham Perrin on 27 Oct 09
     
    Oh, no, no, no, I just realised that adding a tag to something changes its date.

    This is TERRIBLY WRONG!
  • Graham Perrin
    #16 Graham Perrin on 27 Oct 09
     
    I can't have my library put out of order in this way. Until it's fixed: for bookmarking: I'll use an alternative to Diigo.
  • Graham Perrin
    #17 Graham Perrin on 27 Oct 09
  • Graham Perrin
    #18 Graham Perrin on 28 Oct 09
     
    > to guard against future confusion, I'm beginning to add
    > three more tags to every bookmark

    Since Post to Diigo has stopped working the workaround is even more tedious. I have to add the tags by hand.
  • Graham Perrin
    #19 Graham Perrin on 29 Oct 09
     
    Still: 2005 bookmarks are misfiled under 2009, and so on :-(

    I hate the triple-tag workaround for this problem — and adding tags for every date, month and year will make the cloud crowded and ugly — but I'm not willing to have my bookmarks falling out of order. At least I can use

    http://www.diigo.com/user/grahamperrin/2005-08
    to find things that were bookmarked in August 2005.

    In a real public library — in a real building full of reference material — you wouldn't suddenly move a thing from one corner of the library to the opposite corner. Please, don't do it in Diigo.

    Please, oh please, can the library first be put back in order? Then introduce an option/preference for users who want to sort it in another way.

    I'm usually patient, but this problem drives me nuts, and will only get worse over time.

    Thanks
    Graham
  • Graham Perrin
    #21 Graham Perrin on 30 Oct 09
     
    Now, look at the stuff that I was doing on 20th October:
    http://www.diigo.com/user/Grahamperrin/2009-10-20

    The stuff that I did on 21st October belongs next to stuff that I did on the 20th.
  • Graham Perrin
    #23 Graham Perrin on 01 Jul 10
     
    Bump.

    Someone else asking for things to be sorted by date created:
    http://groups.diigo.com/group/Diigo_HQ/content/1714185
  • Graham Perrin
    #24 Graham Perrin on 17 Jul 10
     


    Please, can you add an option to sort by date added?

    Oldest first, please (normal order, not reversed).

    Losing the ability to see things in chronological order by date added (it was a feature of Diigo 3.x) is really annoying.
  • Graham Perrin
    #25 Graham Perrin on 18 Jul 10
     
    Bump.

    Another request for bookmarks to be
    sorted by date added: http://groups.diigo.com/group/Diigo_HQ/content/1755358
  • Joel Liu
    #28 Joel Liu on 20 Jul 10
     
    Ok. We will order items in my library as "created at" and see whether it fits all users.
  • Graham Perrin
    #29 Graham Perrin on 20 Jul 10
     
    Thank you so much!

    I'm 99% certain that some users will prefer the Diigo 4.0 beta behaviour
    - sort by date edited, reverse order (most recent at top)

    so what I'm requesting
    - sort by date added
    should probably be an option/preference, not the only way of sorting.

    The option might appear in one or both of these ways:

    a) as a Sort menu in the library, e.g. Filter… | Sort… | View…

    or

    b) as a set of radio buttons under Viewing Preferences in Settings

    In a perfect world, four radio buttons:

    Library sort order
    [  ] date added
    [  ] date edited
    [*] date added, reverse order (most recent at top)
    [  ] date edited, reverse order

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