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Adding A Social Layer To Gmail Just Became A SocialWok In The Park - 4 views

  • At last year’s TechCrunch50 conference, Socialwok made a big splash, winning the award for best demopit startup and launching its enterprise-friendly, FriendFeed-like layer for Google Apps. The web-based application was praised for launching a social network that wrapped around the very unsocial Google Apps. Today, the startup is launching a gadget to allow users access all the features of Socialwok without leaving Gmail.
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    FishMan - this sounds a little bit like Ning, a socnet for all folks (build your own!) Why do you think there is no monetization by any one of these efforts? That's a key part to what I'm imagining for HBSN. Hmmmmm
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    simple--when it's free already, no one wants to pay. I still think the key to monetization is to give the use control of his/her information, let them set a price for their attention, and then charge advertisers a fee to access those individuals with targeted advertising. Those users who exhibit a higher rate of response to targeted advertising get ranked higher in the value chain, telling potential advertisers that these individuals respond better/more often, and everyone wins. The service that provides this exchange medium can take a 'house' cut of the fees, and also provide a pay premium service for a higher tier.
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    This is the same way ad.ly works with Twitter, so they say - http://twitter.com/adlyads - however, there are other ways to do this. Think of ancestry.com - they charge an annual fee of $150 or so. I think they have a terrible UI but they're very successful. I've been a member of ancestry.com for a while and am now just getting interested again, because you can have your DNA collected (god, don't tell Kurt! lol) and get your ancestors back to Africa (or Iraq!). iPhone app developers get 70%/Apple 30%.
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    I'm vacuuming your house before I leave Jack. I like fish's direction on monetization, as one of several parallel channels, and I would rif on the give user control of their own information to say that one's content is on one's OWN SERVER and resolved to the service, that is TRUE CONTROL. then every access request can be monetized in whatever way you wish (value for value, social currency, real money...) every piece of content comes with a privacy wrapper and a pay wrapper
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    not to mention buying and selling structures, bent can make some killer music ontology and presentation to go with it and we can then all use/buy/value exchange for it.
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    Checking into ad.ly, their pay rate and advertisers aren't based on your attention, they are based strictly on the number of followers you have. Their whole model is wrapped around slight-of-hand diversion. They figure that by dropping an ad tweet into your own personal twitterstream on an every other day basis, will appear innocent enough on the surface, that some (>1%?) will mistake it for something you personally tweeted and since they follow you blindly like hooded lemurs in Jonestown, they;ll drink your koolaid and make a buying decision. Seems a bit underhanded to me. And they aren't paying me because I might be a good target, they are paying me because I have a high enough unwashed masses quotient to justify the exposure. I set my rate for $5000 figuring that even though I have fewer than 100 followers, they are quality followers and not bots (except for Kurt) and that my endorsement to them is worth a great deal. So far, the till's empty.
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    if you advertise to me I will recycle it on an hourly loop and feed it back to you
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Symbaloo - start simple - 3 views

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    A new startpage for everything?
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    just came across this, appears interesting
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Exclusive: First Look at Blue Spruce, IBM's Next Generation Browser Platform - 3 views

  • - Uses the WebKit Open Source Browser Engine (in the demo we saw, Safari was the browser being used) - Uses the following Open standards: HTML, JavaScript, CSS, (All Ajax), XMPP, H.264 - Server runs on Linux, MacOS X - Utilized OpenAjax Metadata Specification, so it can utilize any widgets - It's being ported to IE 6+ and Firefox
  • To be clear, IBM is not developing another browser. The client part of this project is based on a set of browser-based open standards technologies. They will in time (2010 timeframe) be integrated into existing browsers such as Safari, Firefox and IE.
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  • The grand plan for IBM, we think, is that it wants the browser to become the platform for applications
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    maybe we need a new browser?
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    from IBM?
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    'fraid not. this is just a toolkit
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    I really should 'share' this to alerts management feature post in this group if I could do so easily I would. I run gmail in my browser to do 'alerts managment' something it does very poorly in concert with the variety of implementations of alerts from each socnet, this is something that can and should be improved
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Drupal May Be The First Mainstream Semantic Web Winner - Semantic Web - 3 views

  • The Drupal admin feels like it was developed by a developer while the Wordpress admin feels like it was developed by an end-user.
  • Even after improvements by Drupal, Wordpress probably still wins the ease of admin game
  • To display Rich Snippets, Google looks for markup formats (microformats and RDFa) that you can easily add to your own web pages."
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  • To put it in really simple terms: rich snippets help you to be found by Google. That makes site administrators and SEO mavens get up to speed on RDFa
  • The best starting point for all things RDFa is a site called RDFa.info.
  • This 4 minute video is the most accessible way to understand how to use RDFa within Drupal:
  • This post on CMSWire, shows how RDFa is being introduced to Webmasters.
  • Today, very few sites take advantage of Rich Snippets. That will change when RDFa gets built into mainstream CMS, starting with Drupal.
  • Wordpress will catch up. Their users will demand this. So Wordpress and all other mainstream CMS will support RDFa in future.
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Bookmarks and other Google products : Troubleshooting bookmarks and lists - Bookmarks Help - 3 views

  • Google Bookmarks currently supports Google Maps, Google Toolbar, and Google Web Search. Items you bookmark or star in any of these products will appear on your Google Bookmarks home page, where you can add labels or organize them in lists. If you currently use another program or application to create bookmarks, you can use a bookmarklet to easily create Google Bookmarks instead. Drag this bookmarklet to your browser's bookmarks bar: Google Bookmark Any time you visit a webpage that you want to save to your Google Bookmarks page, simply click the bookmarklet in the bookmarks bar.
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    and look--a bookmarklet. Now where have we seen THAT before?
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    I'm pretty excited about Google doing this finally. But how about the Diigo lists? You seemed pretty excited about them at some point. Did you make any use of them? I only see the "top 10 european retailers" in your public lists.
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    Lists can have sections: once you've created a list, you can organize it, ie move items up and down just as with Diigo lists, but you can also create sections and then move items to those sections. Now can you have subsections? Apparently not. Well, one level of subsections may be good enough after all.
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    another project waiting for attention. I had all sorts of good intentions to explore 'lists', but have gotten really busy at work these days--typical 'right-sizing' actions by my employer have cut design staff to save money, while at the same time, pressuring the sales-force to bring in more business, meaning more efforts required by fewer bodies, under increased pressure to perform under tightened time constraints. this fish has no time to swim--too occupied dodging sharks! I am hoping that lists on google become more functional--as it is now, you have to bookmark first, then go to your bookmarks page to share to a list. they shoulda bought Twine just to learn that one!
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Analyst: Email will lose ground to social networks | VentureBeat - 3 views

  • Gartner recently published a list of five new predictions about “social software” that show mix of optimism and pessimism about whether these tools will be embraced by businesses. The most grandiose prediction is the first — that by 2014, social networking services will replace email as the primary communication tool for 20 percent of business users.
  • Gartner also argues that the distinction between email and social networks is disappearing, with social networks adding email-like capabilities while email adds social data.
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  • By 2014, social networking services will replace e-mail as the primary vehicle for interpersonal communications for 20 percent of business users. By 2012, over 50 percent of enterprises will use activity streams that include microblogging, but stand-alone enterprise microblogging will have less than 5 percent penetration. Through 2012, over 70 percent of IT-dominated social media initiatives will fail. Within five years, 70 percent of collaboration and communications applications designed on PCs will be modeled after user experience lessons from smartphone collaboration applications. Through 2015, only 25 percent of enterprises will routinely utilize social network analysis to improve performance and productivity.
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    I know several examples of my friends (non-techie) that are already doing this. They seem to like it much better - all their friends in one place. The favorite if Facebook. I can't figure out who's reading what that I write, so I'm less interested right now, but if preferences/settings were much more obvious, this seems like it will happen. Right now notification seems to be working for me in Diigo.
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    this seems like so much bs to me - facebook will be used for one to many, email client will be the notification/alert single screen of attention for everyone over 30. kiddies will likely embrace the new tech, and text will be their notification or they will use a phone client of some sort to aggregate. hopefully we can come up with a device independent alert/notification management interface that can 'replace' the email client (I'm getting pretty tired of managing social networks from an email client), but I bet it will be one of the email client providers who will figure that out and own it. it may mean handling more protocols in email client. the cardinal example in my mind is iCal handling in email clients - it automatically presents a different UI for that message - why shouldn't an email client be able to do everything facebook does? I think the paragraph from Gartner is so much bs as we have no real fixing of terms - will the email client as we know it today disappear, YES will the experience of messaging be more like facebook, GOD I HOPE NOT, but perhaps, but is this research worth paying for? frigging sound bites
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The Global Brain is about to Wake Up « Nova Spivack - Minding the Planet - 3 views

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    This is an example of how NOT to build a social network. I did a search for 'twine' on this page, and couldn't find one example of it - but, all of his tweets are surfaced in a column on the right. Oppsss.
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    A number of interesting and stimulating thoughts in this post, which I find considerably less vague than Nova's previous post (last Saturday, that's a long long time ago:) on "eliminating the need for search". The next Google won't be about search but about monitoring, that's the first idea. The second interesting idea is about the Global Brain, whose emergence gets linked here with the speed of change and the richness of information available in the real-time web. And the third idea is about artificial consciousness. I've always been puzzled by Nova's mysticism, as he puts it, with respect to consciousness and subjectivity. I think it will take some time to see it disappear, just like Voodoo and all mysticisms, but things change fast nowadays...
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    @ francois...mysticism... LOL!
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    We got solipsism and mysticism eradicated in one day. Good start.
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    In Mac OS X, control-command-D. Let the world be literate!
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    @François - +1 on "Voodoo and all mysticisms, but things change fast nowadays" - They are changing fast, and we can look forward to these things changing faster than ever now and into the future!
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Communicating Effectively With A Team Located Around The Globe | HARVEST Time Tracking ... - 3 views

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    I signed up at co-op, if anyone wants to give it a shot with my .me address.
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Twine user experience honeycomb | Twine - 3 views

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    ah my friend bernard, who ran screaming, er silently from twine, ok screaming on the inside, I miss him
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Rock, Paper, Scissors: Game Theory ... - Google Books - 3 views

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    This is an interesting book on game theory and cooperation, by Len Fisher. 2008

Link Evergreening - 3 views

started by Kurt Laitner on 12 Jan 10 no follow-up yet
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Google Buzz? More Like Buzz Kill - Techtonic Shifts Blog - Newsweek.com - 3 views

  • mostly because nobody can figure out what it does or how it works, so that it exists only as a catnip toy for new media wanker-pundits who love it because it gives them something to blather on about
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      LOL
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    oh look. more blathering.
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    I'm hurt

Concepts - 3 views

started by Kurt Laitner on 04 Jan 10 no follow-up yet
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Ning now supports 2 million social networks, touches up branding | VentureBeat - 2 views

  • Ning, the company that lets you build your own social network, crossed the two-million network mark this month. Co-founded by Marc Andreessen, Ning helps people create niche social networks around special interests from social justice to late-night comedy shows. The Palo Alto-based company now has 41 million members across its networks, adding 1 million new communities since April of last year.
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    perhaps we should look back at this?
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    I really disliked the ning experience
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    yes, it was disappointing at the time. but they have added special sauce and Twitter integration--I know how muxh that rings your bell.
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    Special sauce AND Twitter integration - I'm getting into Twitter! I get more interesting information from my Twitter feed than from anywhere right now - how strange is that?
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    I've never gotten twitter, not sure I ever will, it is the spew, structured by hashtag. Special sauce is evil. Marc Andreessen is a brilliant guy, would love to have him on this project. That said I squatted on a bunch of twitter names early on and should have taken twittersquatter.com (avail then, not anymore) and market a twitter name keep alive service that keeps your twitter account active by pumping ads through it, then on the same site has a twitter name exchange that takes a cut of every txn. With twitter threatening to recycle inactive names could make a fortune. Makes me feel dirty though. Yours for the taking. Since I have a bunch of followers on accounts I've never used, spamming the spammers with the keep alive would be poetically satisfying
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    I do not see the point in moving to ning, less capable than diigo
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    Never liked making money very much - too much trouble - I'm a retired professor, for God's sake! But, I love working with people that get in my head and stay there (a paraphrase of one of your remarks, I believe!) And, I like doing good things ...

Post Promotion - 2 views

started by Kurt Laitner on 24 Jan 10 no follow-up yet
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YouTube - Gina Bianchini - 2 views

shared by Jack Logan on 21 Jan 10 - Cached
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    This might be interesting, if we could actually do what she says can be done. I doubt it ... how customizable is it? I'm going to look into it.
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Twitter / Home - 2 views

shared by fishead ...*∞º˙ on 22 Jan 10 - Cached
  • hthth    "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -H. P. Lovecraft 4 minutes ago from web
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  • novaspivack    Bing just made a big move today with recipe search. Google won't just sit there and do nothing. Going to be a good year for semantics. 8 minutes ago from TweetDeck
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    rather serendipitous how Hrafn's post relates directly to Nova's pet project, AND the two of them appear back-to-back in my twitterfeed...
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    Very, very interesting ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlm4O_ltgtk - "Very, very interesting ... but, ... stupid!"
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In the Future We'll All Have Online Reputation Scores « I'm Not Actually a Geek - 2 views

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    "\nIn a recent interview with EMC's Stu Miniman about the future of the web, I predicted that in 20 years, we'll all have online reputation scores. Little badges, numbers that communicate our level of authority, this sort of thing. And these reputations will have tangible impact.\n\nThree different trends come together at some point in the future to make this happen. These trends have been underway for a while, but come together at some tipping point in the years ahead. Here's a visualization of the trends:"
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TerraTRC - 2 views

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    interesting, worth further study, this guy is for real
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