Solving the Threaded/Flat problem - 1 views

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  #1 Kurt Laitner on 01 Feb 10

   

  twine had toggle, neither really works, consider what we are trying to do:
  
  know what has occured since last here (very important!!!!)
  understand how conversation developed (chronology)
  understand structure of conversation (threaded)
  
  the 'occured since last here' touches on synchronous vs asynch in that if you are constantly synchronous you cannot miss anything
  
  IM is synchronous 2 party for the most part, but I still have multiple topics in one IM with one other person, need threading there too
  
  also tied up with rich presence as well (understanding who is synch who is not, who posted synchronously / asynch'ly - following a conversation is complex, if you are 'there' you need to follow multiple threads and multiple participants, if you are not there, you may want to 'catch up' in an organic way or by scanning the structure of the conversation, you may be disinterested in certain threads and want to de-clutter by hiding them, you may be disproportionately interested in certain parties and want to somehow hilight them
  
  screen real estate is an issue here as well - I may not be able to view the whole thread but I may be very interested in jumping into a hot spot in the conversation that is off page currently - following the interesting crowd at the cocktail party if you will. This is clearly not because you will miss something (unlike the cocktail party) but that you will miss the rich interaction and ability to influence the conversation and maximize leverage with valuable minds.
  
  I have suggested that presence blips on the scroll bar would be useful, some change if active vs 'last at' also indicate attention this way - show where frank is looking at a thread right now, even if not typing - gwave has issues with simply showing activity so there may be technical hurdles here
  
  brings in brin's concepts of social filtering, attention, keyword filtering etc

   

  <div class="cArrow"> </div><div class="cContentInner">twine had toggle, neither really works, consider what we are trying to do: <br /> <br /> know what has occured since last here (very important!!!!) <br /> understand how conversation developed (chronology) <br /> understand structure of conversation (threaded) <br /> <br /> the 'occured since last here' touches on synchronous vs asynch in that if you are constantly synchronous you cannot miss anything <br /> <br /> IM is synchronous 2 party for the most part, but I still have multiple topics in one IM with one other person, need threading there too <br /> <br /> also tied up with rich presence as well (understanding who is synch who is not, who posted synchronously / asynch'ly - following a conversation is complex, if you are 'there' you need to follow multiple threads and multiple participants, if you are not there, you may want to 'catch up' in an organic way or by scanning the structure of the conversation, you may be disinterested in certain threads and want to de-clutter by hiding them, you may be disproportionately interested in certain parties and want to somehow hilight them <br /> <br /> screen real estate is an issue here as well - I may not be able to view the whole thread but I may be very interested in jumping into a hot spot in the conversation that is off page currently - following the interesting crowd at the cocktail party if you will. This is clearly not because you will miss something (unlike the cocktail party) but that you will miss the rich interaction and ability to influence the conversation and maximize leverage with valuable minds. <br /> <br /> I have suggested that presence blips on the scroll bar would be useful, some change if active vs 'last at' also indicate attention this way - show where frank is looking at a thread right now, even if not typing - gwave has issues with simply showing activity so there may be technical hurdles here <br /> <br /> brings in brin's concepts of social filtering, attention, keyword filtering etc</div>

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  #2 Kurt Laitner on 01 Feb 10

   

  forking / splitting and Perspectives come into this as well

   

  <div class="cArrow"> </div><div class="cContentInner">forking / splitting and Perspectives come into this as well</div>

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