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Evri Ties the Knot with Twine - Twine CEO Comments and Analysis « Nova Spivac... - 0 views

www.novaspivack.com/...evri-ties-the-knot-with-twine

shared by fishead ...*∞º˙ on 11 Mar 10 - Cached
  • Evri Ties the Knot with Twine — Twine CEO Comments and Analysis March 11th, 2010  Share Today I am pleased to announce that my company, Radar Networks, and its flagship product, Twine, have been acquired by Evri. TechCrunch broke the story here. This acquisition consolidates the two leading providers of semantic discovery and search. It is also the culmination of my long and challenging venture to pioneer the adoption of the consumer Semantic Web.
  • At the time of beta launch and for almost six months after, Twine was still very much a work in progress. Fortunately our users and the press were fairly forgiving as we worked through evolving the GUI and feature set from what was initially just slightly better than an alpha site to the highly refined and graphical UI we have today. During these early days of Twine.com we were fortunate to have a devoted user-base and this became a thriving community of power-users who really helped us to refine the product and develop great content within it.
  • These losses meant we could no longer create compelling content or to manage the Twine community. So we put Twine.com on auto-pilot and let the traffic fall off. While painful to watch, this at least had the benefit of reducing the pressure to scale the system and support it under load, giving us time to focus all our energy on getting T2 finished and raising more funds.
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  • The Twine team is joining Evri to continue our work there. Twine.com’s data and users are safe and sound and will be transitioned into the Evri.com service over time. This process will be done in a manner that protects privacy and data, and is minimally disruptive. I have great faith in the team at Evri and believe they will handle this with great care and respect for the Twine community.
  • Twine was well-received by the press and early-adopter users.
Jack Logan

The Stimulus Tracker on CNNMoney.com - Track the economic stimulus package in detail - 10 views

money.cnn.com/...index.html

topology diigo twine et al

shared by Jack Logan on 26 Jan 10 - Cached
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  • Jack Logan on 26 Jan 10
     
    Cool top-level view structure. We need a structure like this for social mapping as an alternative. I always wanted one of these for my twines in Twine. What if everyone who had a Diigo had one of these to SEE what was being created and to whom they are connected.
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 26 Jan 10
     
    That's really COOL. I like the relativity with size relationship thing they gots goin' on. I want it to go on more though--3 levels just isn't enough. It would also be incredible if we could spin-axis and view from other directions as well. Remember this?   http://www.twine.com/item/11808fysj-523/3d-twine
  • frank smith on 27 Jan 10
     
    I will always remember that!!! it is still alive somewhere on my harddrive!!
Jack Logan

Jack D Logan Twines - Jack D. Logan Twines - 2 views

trumpet.sdsu.edu/Jack D Logan Twines/index.html

shared by Jack Logan on 15 Jan 10 - No Cached
  • Jack Logan on 15 Jan 10
     
    Remember these? Ha Ha However, we could use this to keep track of all of our stuff in Diigo and elsewhere.
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 15 Jan 10
     
    That's pretty cool. I like how the connection chain is dynamic as you click it. Lots of wasted real estate at the bottom however. It would be nice to get a preview of the selection instead of just a link. Man you connected a lot of stuff!!!
  • Jack Logan on 15 Jan 10
     
    This was a real early version. I'm working on a version with everything that I've done in Twine using this app that has more than 27k items to it. It's the one that Bent help me make a file with NSA. I'd really like to know if Twine will maintain the urls from T1 after going to T2. If I could get the Twine files into Diigo, I could do a bulk change, and recast the front end.
François Dongier

Strings - Track, Share, Discover - 7 views

www.strings.com/about

Strings attention collaborative filtering

shared by François Dongier on 19 Mar 10 - Cached
  • Strings is a social tracking and filtering platform that allows you to share and uncover experiences that are relevant to you. Strings incorporates strong privacy controls, easy filtering, and tracking support that allows your actions on and offline to automatically identify personalized trends worth following.
  • François Dongier on 19 Mar 10
     
    Yet another social bookmarking service?
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  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 20 Mar 10
     
    hmmnnn. looks like twine--similar main view. smells like twine--logos use connecting circles and lines. tastes like twine--people filter content for other people. feels like twine--connections, content, commentary. sounds like twine.
  • François Dongier on 20 Mar 10
     
    Right, although it seems to have a much wider scope than Twine: they want to track everything about the user's digital behaviour, not just wrt bookmarking: track and share what you buy, where you buy it, how much you pay for it, what you rent, what you read, what music you listen to, what movies you watch, what you like, what you dislike, what places you visit, who your friends are, etc.
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 20 Mar 10
     
    yeah--saw that. seems a little bit scary if you ask me. although google, the credit card companies, and the banks could probably do that stuff already.
  • Jack Logan on 20 Mar 10
     
    Are you guys trying Strings; I signed up for an account and I couldn't find any of you in the there. Is anyone in Strings?
  • François Dongier on 21 Mar 10
     
    Jack, I connected with you on Strings. So, from now on, you'll get an email whenever I do something on my PC or in my bedroom... No, just joking: I haven't shared anything and don't really see the point yet. But if you share something, I'll probably get a notification :)
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 21 Mar 10
     
    haahaaa...T.M.I. with strings. despite their assertion of multiple privacy levels, the mere fact that they WANT to follow everything you do in order to make personalized recommendations is what frightens me about the directions of Web 3.0. Who will watch the watchers? Goog is one thing with their 'do no evil' credo, but the idea of 24/7 active monitoring smacks of more than just altruistic effort to me. I'm gonna let someone else play with this strings...
Kurt Laitner

Twine user experience honeycomb | Twine - 3 views

www.twine.com/...wine-user-experience-honeycomb

Bernard

shared by Kurt Laitner on 01 Feb 10 - Cached
  • Kurt Laitner on 01 Feb 10
     
    ah my friend bernard, who ran screaming, er silently from twine, ok screaming on the inside, I miss him
Jack Logan

Eliminating the Need for Search « Nova Spivack - Minding the Planet - 7 views

www.novaspivack.com/...eliminating-the-need-t-search

shared by Jack Logan on 16 Jan 10 - Cached
  • Jack Logan on 16 Jan 10
     
    Interesting. Looks like Nova's moved on from T2.
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  • Jack Logan on 16 Jan 10
     
    Are we never going to see T2? Thoughts?
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 16 Jan 10
     
    It looks like even Nova has realized now the futility of his "project". It makes me think that he is more on the side of experimentation and pushing boundaries that actually developing anything substantial. One of the things I've been taught in my work is that the difference between dreamers and doers is that dreamers never stop dreaming. Doers know when to take the dream, flesh it out and make it into something that works. Nova is a dreamer, and has left a wake of half-baked thoughts behind him as he continues to seek the next "thing", having lost interest in the last "thing" he experimented with. There are a lot of once-promising ghost towns that have been cooked up and discarded that trail behind him like the chains on Dickens' ghost of Christmas past. Earthweb, NVention, Lucid, Radar, Twine. All flittering bubbles of inspiration that never grew up, and/or were abandoned by the dreamer just short of success. I think we've already glimpsed the "future" as Nova sees it, and I for one have learned that what ever his future is, I don't want to participate.
  • Jack Logan on 16 Jan 10
     
    +1
  • frank smith on 17 Jan 10
     
    @fish yeah we have a saying for those "dreamers'. it's "Put down the bong and DO something!!" Dreaming is something i do when i sleep. hoping,planning and working i do when awake. Keep waking em up Man!! And double +1 to your commet about interactions with Nova the Snake Oil Salesman!!
  • François Dongier on 17 Jan 10
     
    -1 :-)
  • Kurt Laitner on 17 Jan 10
     
    I think Nova has contributed greatly, and will continue to do so. His gifting is not in finishing, but in starting - starters and finishers are seldom the same person. What is unusual here is that a starter is given large amounts of capital but the vc's don't know enough to pair him with a finisher. One of my business partners said a business needs a dreamer, a doer and a sob. To which I asked, so that makes you.....? T2 is based on what I know of it (unless they've come up with some scaling algorithm, which isn't a product, and should be sold based on the patent to MS or google) fails on differentiation, and is entering a market against formidable incumbents. Hence Nova's thoughts that the next 'google' needs to differentiate itself further are actually quite valid. If I were Nova's vc on T2 I would pull the plug. Never talk about your next project.
  • François Dongier on 17 Jan 10
     
    Not so long ago, in fact just a couple years ago, Twine (T1) was far ahead of the competition in the area of interest networking (building of communities around interests). I think Nova and T1 really did a good job in *pioneering* the idea that social networking should not just focus on people connecting to each other but rather on the topics that people share an interest for. For some reasons, Twine did not try to stay ahead in this field and didn't integrate improvements that seemed quite obvious. I would have liked to see T1 evolve towards real semantic tagging, connecting Twine tags and topics to linked data entities. I would have liked to see a T1 with stronger collaborative filtering: even the "like" button that was - i believe - introduced by FriendFeed, is now everywhere, except on Twine... I don't think that what Nova is discussing here has much to do with T2, just like I don't think that the semtweet project that he tweeted about a couple weeks ago has much to do with T2 either. I agree that so far Nova has been a dreamer, an inventor, more than a "doer", but I still like to check what he is dreaming about. Sometimes his dreams seem very deep and interesting: I don't find the current T2 dream (faceted search based on Apache-Solr technology) very exciting, unless something big comes out of it with respect to RDF. I am not that excited either about Semtweet, unless again it brings along something big with respect to RDF. And now Nova is sharing some new thoughts about some new user-machine interaction that wouldn't be based on search but on something else... I agree it's still pretty vague and not very convincing yet...
Jack Logan

UML Class Diagram Of Twine | Twine - 6 views

www.twine.com/...uml-class-diagram-of-twine

shared by Jack Logan on 15 Jan 10 - Cached
  • François Dongier on 15 Jan 10
     
    He... that was Pomlover. Anyone still in touch with him?
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 15 Jan 10
     
    Not recently-that last communication I had with him, he had left the company he was working for and was trying to "go it alone" with a small consulting startup--that was back in October. He's been radio-silent since then however. I do miss his charts and graphs though. He did start up a blog...here's his site: http://bulldozer00.wordpress.com/
  • François Dongier on 15 Jan 10
     
    Thanks, I just sent him a message thru Twine to let him know we're here now
fishead ...*∞º˙

Evri Acquires Radar Networks In Semantic Search Consolidation - 8 views

techcrunch.com/...evri-acquires-radar-networks

shared by fishead ...*∞º˙ on 11 Mar 10 - Cached
  • Evri Acquires Radar Networks In Semantic Search Consolidation 10 Comments Share6 Buzz it by Erick Schonfeld on Mar 11, 2010 After shopping itself around to all the major search engines, Radar Networks finally found a buyer in another semantic search startup. Today, Evri is announcing that it will be acquiring Radar Networks, along with its core technical team and its main product, Twine. Rumors surfaced yesterday on ReadWriteWeb that Evri was being acquired, but that is not the case. Evri is the acquirer. I spoke with both CEOs this morning. They would not disclose the terms of the deal, but it is safe to assume that it was largely an equity-based transaction. Both Evri and Radar Networks share Paul Allen’s Vulcan Capital as their largest shareholder. Radar has raised $24 million in total capital, while Evri has raised $8 million. (At least that is what has been publicly disclosed. Paul Allen has poured much more money into Evri almost single-handedly, perhaps even more than Radar raised). Radar was unable to raise more during the recession and kept pushing out the release of its next product, T2, an ambitious project to create a semantic index of the Web. Using this semantic index, T2 can do a better job understanding what each Web page it indexes is about.
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 11 Mar 10
     
    buy buy birdie
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  • François Dongier on 12 Mar 10
     
    I think that's great news... Seriously, I do. Evri is really a very nice product.
  • Jack Logan on 12 Mar 10
     
    It's a really great match! Let's hope they do something great!
  • Jack Logan on 13 Mar 10
     
    I've begun to use it to do lots of Search. I find it to be a much more interesting experience with great results over Google. I think the Evri + Twine result is a terrific match and will provide others some of the semantic tools to build onto the semantic web.
  • François Dongier on 13 Mar 10
     
    Good to know, Jack. Please share if you find good examples of such searches with "great results over Google". Today I seem to have problems signing in (with Chrome - but it works with Firefox), so I suppose they are making some changes. I'm having some problems with the collections: can't find how to create a new collection or edit an existing one. Have you been using collections yet? Do they work for you?
  • Jack Logan on 13 Mar 10
     
    Do you have the iPhone app. for Evri - EvriVerse? Very interesting. It uses the mapping that I wrote about in my letter to all of this group today in response to the Twain letter.
Jack Logan

Twine - Organize, Share, Discover Information Around Your Interests | Twine - 5 views

www.twine.com

Ha

shared by Jack Logan on 30 Mar 10 - Cached
  • Jack Logan on 30 Mar 10
     
    Ha Ha
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  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 30 Mar 10
     
    shouldn't this go into the subcategory of how NOT to build a social network? or more better--how to destroy a social network?
  • Jack Logan on 30 Mar 10
     
    Of course is should be how to destroy a social network. But, I'm still interested what Evri will do with it, and, since so much of our input is still on Twine, it seems like it should be worth looking at what, if any, the improvements could be. What do you think? Are you going to keep an eye on the progress? I like the EvriVerse By EvriView, which I use on my iPhone. It's clever, and has link-types around tags that lead to some interested 'faceted' search. So, ... maybe there will be some interesting outcomes from this relationshiip.
  • anonymous on 05 Apr 10
     
    You can't destroy the network, but you can destroy the network service. The map isn't the terrain. Only the most sociopathic individuals have the power to destroy the actual network, and since a network is generally self-healing (but still subject to scarring), chances are the only they'll do is sever their link to the overall network. It's the Triumph of the Subjective.
François Dongier

Press Release | Evri - Corporate - Part 0 - 0 views

corporate.evri.com/...twine-relaunches-consumer-site

Evri Twine nova spivack

shared by François Dongier on 12 Mar 10 - Cached
  • This acquisition falls in tandem with a re-launch of www.evri.com, incorporating a number of visual and technological updates designed to enhance the experience of discovery. With the introduction of a redesigned global navigation model and more intuitive ways to search, explore and filter the trending news and multi-media content of the web, Evri enables consumers to cut through the clutter and receive only content of interest to them. “At Evri, we’re striving to deliver a search engine that proactively discovers the most interesting, popular and trending stories on the web, filtering out the clutter and delivering information to consumers in timely, relevant and intelligent streams,” said Mr. Hunsinger. “With the acquisition of Twine and the launch of our new consumer site, we’re making good on the intuitive discovery experience we envision for the Web.”
  • ABOUT EVRI Evri (www.evri.com) automates how content is understood, filtered and shared, inviting consumers to participate in the conversations that matter most to them. With over 2.5 million real-time topical streams across thousands of categories, Evri is rapidly improving consumers’ access to information on the topics they value most. Publishers large and small have installed Evri applications on their Websites, including some of the world’s most prestigious news organizations like Hearst Entertainment (www.lmk.com) and the Times of London. Evri is based in Seattle, WA, and is funded by Paul Allen’s Vulcan Capital. Evri is a tradema
fishead ...*∞º˙

Nova Spivack (novaspivack) on Twitter - 1 views

twitter.com/novaspivack

shared by fishead ...*∞º˙ on 22 Jan 10 - Cached
  • novaspivack @melissapierce danka! less than 10 seconds ago from TweetDeck in reply to melissapierce As for T2 -- we've made more progress... new stuff in lab to automate even more of the process for webmasters... not in my screenshots yet less than a minute ago from TweetDeck After 9 years of working on semantic web, it's good to see it finally being understood by business people. Not just us geeks. 2 minutes ago from TweetDeck Today I have been inundated with new interest in T2. Seems that vertical semantic search is hot all of a sudden. Finally. 2 minutes ago from TweetDeck The Twine T2 project is by far the most advanced vertical semantic search ecosystem platform. Check out: http://bit.ly/75amWI 5 minutes ago from TweetDeck The new battlefield of search is going to be around vertical semantic search. This is the year. It's coming. 6 minutes ago from TweetDeck
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 22 Jan 10
     
    And death knell for Twine begins to toll...
  • Jack Logan on 22 Jan 10
     
    Here are some death knell sounds that I heard a lot in the '80s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTlSZeLfS90
Jack Logan

The Global Brain is about to Wake Up « Nova Spivack - Minding the Planet - 3 views

www.novaspivack.com/...obal-brain-is-about-to-wake-up

shared by Jack Logan on 19 Jan 10 - Cached
  • Jack Logan on 19 Jan 10
     
    This is an example of how NOT to build a social network. I did a search for 'twine' on this page, and couldn't find one example of it - but, all of his tweets are surfaced in a column on the right. Oppsss.
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  • François Dongier on 19 Jan 10
     
    A number of interesting and stimulating thoughts in this post, which I find considerably less vague than Nova's previous post (last Saturday, that's a long long time ago:) on "eliminating the need for search". The next Google won't be about search but about monitoring, that's the first idea. The second interesting idea is about the Global Brain, whose emergence gets linked here with the speed of change and the richness of information available in the real-time web. And the third idea is about artificial consciousness. I've always been puzzled by Nova's mysticism, as he puts it, with respect to consciousness and subjectivity. I think it will take some time to see it disappear, just like Voodoo and all mysticisms, but things change fast nowadays...
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 19 Jan 10
     
    @ francois...mysticism... LOL!
  • François Dongier on 19 Jan 10
     
    We got solipsism and mysticism eradicated in one day. Good start.
  • Jack Logan on 19 Jan 10
     
    In Mac OS X, control-command-D. Let the world be literate!
  • Jack Logan on 19 Jan 10
     
    @François - +1 on "Voodoo and all mysticisms, but things change fast nowadays" - They are changing fast, and we can look forward to these things changing faster than ever now and into the future!
Kurt Laitner

rss and saved search feed into groups - 1 views

long sought after at twine, the ability to feed one group into another, and to create a group from a static saved search, or feed a dynamic saved search (rss feed of new results on that search) int...

feature saved search search feeds iterative grouping

started by Kurt Laitner on 21 Feb 10 no follow-up yet
Kurt Laitner

New Rules for the New Economy - 0 views

www.kk.org/...s-associated-with-the-gene.php

Kevin Kelly Rules emergent behavior

shared by Kurt Laitner on 16 Feb 10 - Cached
  • the technical specifications of the software that the Well used directly shaped the kind of community growing within it
  • Other models of conferencing software used elsewhere produced different kinds of communities
  • The Well's software--as implemented by the Well--encouraged linear conversations and community memory; it discouraged anonymity, but encouraged responsibility for words and topics; it permitted limited forms of dissent and retraction, and it allowed users to invent their own tools.
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      Kurt Laitner on 16 Feb 10
       
      reinforces our notion of allowing users to create structures and presentations as well as content, Bent was excited when Twine was allowing limited metadata definition, would be even better if we could specify whole aspects / objects as well as the presentation of either one or more than one of these aspects/ objects (photo presentation not the same as a list of photos presentation)
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  • Peace through tools, not rules.
  • Kurt Laitner on 16 Feb 10
     
    an illustrious reverb on rules' importance in defining the emergent behaviors and shaping the quality of the interactions on a social site
Kurt Laitner

Collapse page and metapage - 6 views

I do like hilighting to show, but would like to be seeing only my and my colleagues hilighting within the context I am navigating to that page from, likely with toggles for 'all comments' 'all high...

usability

started by Kurt Laitner on 01 Feb 10 2 follow-ups, last by Kurt Laitner on 01 Feb 10
Kurt Laitner

Solving the Threaded/Flat problem - 1 views

forking / splitting and Perspectives come into this as well

started by Kurt Laitner on 01 Feb 10 1 follow-up, last by Kurt Laitner on 01 Feb 10
Kurt Laitner

Science in the Open » Blog Archive » "Friendfeeds for Science" pt II - Design... - 1 views

cameronneylon.net/...a-research-focussed-aggregator

shared by Kurt Laitner on 08 Mar 10 - Cached
  • If we recognize a role of author, outside that of the user’s curation activity we can also enable the rating of people and objects that don’t belong to users. This would allow researchers who are not users to build up reputation within the system
    • Kurt Laitner
      Kurt Laitner on 08 Mar 10
       
      this is a really interesting twist, sort of like profile sites that allow you to 'claim' your profile - I also find the blending of poster with author annoying on twine and other socnets - it should be very clear who plays what role, this also reinforces that I would like to modulate the 'post' action to distinguish between things I just want to look at later and am filing, and things I've spent some time with and are recommending, as well as numerous other intentions that are currently bundled up in 'post' or 'share' buttons - this would also contribute to filtering granularity, as I could read everything that one of my trusted advisors had recommended, ignoring things they were merely 'collecting'
  • Finally there is the question of interacting with this content and filtering it through the rating systems that have been created. The UI issues for this are formidable but there is a need to enable different views. A streaming view, and more static views of content a user has collected over long periods, as well as search.
fishead ...*∞º˙

Bookmarks and other Google products : Troubleshooting bookmarks and lists - Bookmarks Help - 3 views

www.google.com/...answer.py

shared by fishead ...*∞º˙ on 24 Mar 10 - Cached
  • Google Bookmarks currently supports Google Maps, Google Toolbar, and Google Web Search. Items you bookmark or star in any of these products will appear on your Google Bookmarks home page, where you can add labels or organize them in lists. If you currently use another program or application to create bookmarks, you can use a bookmarklet to easily create Google Bookmarks instead. Drag this bookmarklet to your browser's bookmarks bar: Google Bookmark Any time you visit a webpage that you want to save to your Google Bookmarks page, simply click the bookmarklet in the bookmarks bar.
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 24 Mar 10
     
    and look--a bookmarklet. Now where have we seen THAT before?
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  • François Dongier on 24 Mar 10
     
    I'm pretty excited about Google doing this finally. But how about the Diigo lists? You seemed pretty excited about them at some point. Did you make any use of them? I only see the "top 10 european retailers" in your public lists.
  • François Dongier on 24 Mar 10
     
    Lists can have sections: once you've created a list, you can organize it, ie move items up and down just as with Diigo lists, but you can also create sections and then move items to those sections. Now can you have subsections? Apparently not. Well, one level of subsections may be good enough after all.
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 24 Mar 10
     
    another project waiting for attention. I had all sorts of good intentions to explore 'lists', but have gotten really busy at work these days--typical 'right-sizing' actions by my employer have cut design staff to save money, while at the same time, pressuring the sales-force to bring in more business, meaning more efforts required by fewer bodies, under increased pressure to perform under tightened time constraints. this fish has no time to swim--too occupied dodging sharks! I am hoping that lists on google become more functional--as it is now, you have to bookmark first, then go to your bookmarks page to share to a list. they shoulda bought Twine just to learn that one!
fishead ...*∞º˙

Official Google Blog: Collaborative bookmarking with lists - 2 views

googleblog.blogspot.com/...ve-bookmarking-with-lists.html

shared by fishead ...*∞º˙ on 24 Mar 10 - Cached
  • Today we’re debuting lists in Google Bookmarks, an experimental new feature that helps you easily share those sites with friends.Bookmarks are a great way to keep track of your favorite content across the web and we want to help you share them with your friends. To use lists, visit Google Bookmarks at google.com/bookmarks or by clicking “Manage all” in your Google Toolbar. From there, select the links you want to share and click “Copy to list.” Lists are private by default, but once you’ve created one you can share it with specific friends or even publish it to the web. For example, if a friend of yours is visiting Seattle for the first time and you have some local attractions bookmarked, you might want to create a new list for “Seattle attractions” and share it with your friend.
  • Google will algorithmically analyze your list to identify other potentially relevant links, such as the Seattle Aquarium. Similarly, when we detect that a list is relevant to a specific region, we provide a map of those places and relevant info for each place, such as addresses, hours and reviews.
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 24 Mar 10
     
    They've done it---Google Announces LISTS! Buh-bye Twine.
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