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Yet another social bookmarking service?

Jack, I connected with you on Strings. So, from now on, you'll get an email whenever I do something on my PC or in my bedroom... No, just joking: I haven't shared anything and don't really see the point yet. But if you share something, I'll probably get a notification :)

haahaaa...T.M.I. with strings. despite their assertion of multiple privacy levels, the mere fact that they WANT to follow everything you do in order to make personalized recommendations is what frightens me about the directions of Web 3.0. Who will watch the watchers? Goog is one thing with their 'do no evil' credo, but the idea of 24/7 active monitoring smacks of more than just altruistic effort to me. I'm gonna let someone else play with this strings...

They've done it---Google Announces LISTS! Buh-bye Twine.

"A few weeks ago, I noticed a contest on Stowe Boyd's site to receive a free entry to the Social Business Edge conference coming up in April in NYC, and a chance to share the idea on stage. I just found out my entry is one of four that was selected. I'm copying it here, but I'd love to build it out with you: How can the power and scope of social networks, combined with a human capital inventory, be used to facilitate shared creation and innovation? It wasn't that long ago that society was a byproduct of an industrial era, characterized by assembly lines, processes, and efficiency. Like the machines they operated, people were not expected to think, but to conform and become a cog - a replicable, interchangeable part of a machine. The problem is, humans weren't designed for mechanization. We were designed to create."

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Good to know, Jack. Please share if you find good examples of such searches with "great results over Google". Today I seem to have problems signing in (with Chrome - but it works with Firefox), so I suppose they are making some changes. I'm having some problems with the collections: can't find how to create a new collection or edit an existing one. Have you been using collections yet? Do they work for you?

Do you have the iPhone app. for Evri - EvriVerse? Very interesting. It uses the mapping that I wrote about in my letter to all of this group today in response to the Twain letter.

"Hunome is... * A site you can join, for free as an individual, to gain and share insights, views and thoughts on human ways of being and living; who we are, why we are and where we'd like to go next. * A business that provides tools for us all to make a dent in humanity's lack of getting each other. * A means to make human interest inclusive decisions - in private, intellectual and organizational spheres. * A dream to make a difference by improving our perceptiveness about humanity. We hope you find Hunome's purpose of value and will join us. You can register your interest on Hunome "

Another way to own your data? Certainly talks up the position but not sure how stable web urls for identities are sufficient - ther may be more to this but it is good to see the meme getting traction - love the share cropping analogy - also love the "Facebook is like a wedding from hell .. You've got your mom sitting next to your boss and you wife beside your ex girlfriend"

anyone ever heard of this place?

nope. anything interesting? (beyond the unique view that content creators should be paid)

My first quick glance appeared to show a bunch of hopeful storefronts with nobody shopping. Not very apparent how money is made either. I think it's ad click throughs, but I didn't stick around very long. I fear it's another of those 'lacking momentum' issues.

looks like the big G is getting serious...

Yep, and I see it as more exciting than threatening.

Here's the discussion on Friendfeed: http://friendfeed.com/paul/d0c8861e/google-to-add-social-features-gmail

Interesting. Looks like Nova's moved on from T2.

I think Nova has contributed greatly, and will continue to do so. His gifting is not in finishing, but in starting - starters and finishers are seldom the same person. What is unusual here is that a starter is given large amounts of capital but the vc's don't know enough to pair him with a finisher. One of my business partners said a business needs a dreamer, a doer and a sob. To which I asked, so that makes you.....? T2 is based on what I know of it (unless they've come up with some scaling algorithm, which isn't a product, and should be sold based on the patent to MS or google) fails on differentiation, and is entering a market against formidable incumbents. Hence Nova's thoughts that the next 'google' needs to differentiate itself further are actually quite valid. If I were Nova's vc on T2 I would pull the plug. Never talk about your next project.

Not so long ago, in fact just a couple years ago, Twine (T1) was far ahead of the competition in the area of interest networking (building of communities around interests). I think Nova and T1 really did a good job in *pioneering* the idea that social networking should not just focus on people connecting to each other but rather on the topics that people share an interest for. For some reasons, Twine did not try to stay ahead in this field and didn't integrate improvements that seemed quite obvious. I would have liked to see T1 evolve towards real semantic tagging, connecting Twine tags and topics to linked data entities. I would have liked to see a T1 with stronger collaborative filtering: even the "like" button that was - i believe - introduced by FriendFeed, is now everywhere, except on Twine... I don't think that what Nova is discussing here has much to do with T2, just like I don't think that the semtweet project that he tweeted about a couple weeks ago has much to do with T2 either. I agree that so far Nova has been a dreamer, an inventor, more than a "doer", but I still like to check what he is dreaming about. Sometimes his dreams seem very deep and interesting: I don't find the current T2 dream (faceted search based on Apache-Solr technology) very exciting, unless something big comes out of it with respect to RDF. I am not that excited either about Semtweet, unless again it brings along something big with respect to RDF. And now Nova is sharing some new thoughts about some new user-machine interaction that wouldn't be based on search but on something else... I agree it's still pretty vague and not very convincing yet...

Ya'll come and give us your opinion.

Agree with Frank. There is no use in letting Barney tell us where he lives, if we want to use the map gadget to choose a good place for a meatspace meeting. So this particular wave, given its intent, should have been restricted to the group. In many cases, I think it could be harmless to open a wave to the public: the crowd can contribute good things, we all know that... But I still think that, by default, wave access should be restricted to group members. It would maximize the sharing of relatively private or "sensitive" information within the group. It would also help keeping the discussions on topic (side-tracking is very easy in all forum discussions and the more people you have in the conversation the more side-tracking you get). Now of course anyone in the group can invite anyone, even "Public" into the wave: just like anyone who has access to a private document can copy it and paste it on a blog or any public place.

Yes F1 (Francois, I will be F2)!! i think we can use the wave structures to keep things private and the fact that any of us can add anyone can be moderated by convention and the trust we have begun to build with each other. plus the reinforcement from the system, in that we all can see who has added whom. Plus the ability to delete participants will come along eventually. Thanks F1!!!

excellent article on how to build the next generation of infrastructure and what some key themes are.

maybe we need a new browser?

'fraid not. this is just a toolkit

I really should 'share' this to alerts management feature post in this group if I could do so easily I would. I run gmail in my browser to do 'alerts managment' something it does very poorly in concert with the variety of implementations of alerts from each socnet, this is something that can and should be improved

This is an interesting book on game theory and cooperation, by Len Fisher. 2008

really more *net than HBSN, but thinking ahead>>> architecture posted earlier with content producer literally keeping posession, serving out content with a pay and privacy wrapper to sites who do nothing but resolve to the content (ie don't keep it) sort of like video embeds that can be yanked remotely - I will be paying attention to this guy

incidentally though I have yet to clear through his blog, lots of interesting headings in there, it's not just the content that can be bought and sold, the metadata sets (aspects, object types, class types) can be much more readily sold as can the next level of indirection, presentations for those aspects - next item up for bids is the structure (or instance relations) when one 'adopts' a piece of someone's perspective it could register a microtransaction of value. paying for interest in a piece of content makes more sense than paying for reading it, though interest is a bit trickier to ascertain - value assignment can be done in arrears by tracking liquidity events through the corpus of material the person getting that liquidity has 'experienced' in their travels, ie they may have been 'influenced' by another piece of music in their composition and not even realize it, but the music analysis bot and history bot will suck that money down to the original composer, which takes me to a post wildcat shared about IP, will go find now... scuffle scuffle