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"CC started a topic 25 days ago (2013-07-03) I know there was a big upgrade recently where subtitles were lost, but also being restored. I haven't really seen any missing subtitles, but instead, I've noticed that all my subtitles are missing the line breaks that I put in (I originally used SHIFT-ENTER to put line breaks and it's been displaying perfectly on 2 lines until now) So a line that looked like this originally: There were 3 little pigs who lived on a farm in Houston. Now looks like this: There were 3 little pigswho lived on a farm in Houston. The line break between "pigs" and "who" is gone and the 2 lines are now squished together and displayed all on one line. For example: http://www.amara.org/en/videos/mR3iGd5jpr0w/info/part-1-evolving-role/ Will these be restored somehow from a backup? ----- Edit: I tried going back to an old video which lost its line breaks and tried manually adding them back in (with SHIFT-ENTER). I found that if I just added the line breaks back in and pressed save, none of the changes were saved and was as if I hadn't edited it at all, no new revision was created and the subtitles still on a single line. It only saved a new revision if I changed or added new letters into the subtitle and pressed save. And in that case, line breaks were recognized. So does that mean that Amara doesn't recognize just adding line breaks as a change to the subtitle and cause for a new revision to be created? I'm pretty sure that I've just added a line break or two before and it saved properly, not sure why it doesn't now."

Several comments with other instances of deleted line breaks after June 29, 2013 upgrade.

Line breaks missing in subtitles of TED videos - on amara.org and/or on TED.com

See "What happened to all the LINE BREAKS within subtitles? They're all gone now. Does it have to do with the upgrade?" http://support.amara.org/support/discussions/topics/25104 on the Amara general help forum and "Translation published, lines still merged" http://ted-support.amara.org/support/discussions/topics/28326 on the TED help forum

"Antony Brand started a topic 5 months ago (2013-02-26) I am a teacher and learner of languages including a number of non-latin scripts (ie. not abcde...) I excitedly entered my first subtitle track for a song (in its original script) which is Bengali (Bangla) together with an English translation. http://www.amara.org/en/videos/gas6mX5g1uWU/info/hrid-majhare-anusheh-anadil/ I ended making my Bengali track with the original script on the top line and made a line break to show the pronounciation on the bottom line but this solution was anglocentric. This gives undue weight to English/Latin script and excludes the possibility of transcribing into other scripts.. How much more powerful would it be to have transcriptions of videos in multiple scripts for people all around the world. If implemented it could be so so useful for: Koreans learning English Japanese studying German Russians singing Sanskrit Urdu speakers beginning Chinese in fact anyone anywhere needing to get their head around using a new script. Is this of interest to anyone else?"

rereading my comment: maybe I didn't understand the 1st topic.

"Anne H started a topic 3 hours ago (2013-07-28) Hi! I'm part of a volunteer team translating the Crash Course subtitles, and just noticed that in several of our videos both the original subtitles and the translations are randomly missing spaces that were there before (for example: http://www.amara.org/en/videos/owRxJImTTlI1/en/77200/ (0:07, 0:16 etc.)). Is this a known bug that can be fixed, or do we have to re-proofread our subtitles and press space a lot?"

I crosslinked to: - "What happened to all the LINE BREAKS within subtitles? They're all gone now. Does it have to do with the upgrade?" http://support.amara.org/support/discussions/topics/25104 and -"Video language selection deleted after (by?) the June 29, 2013 upgrade" http://support.amara.org/support/discussions/topics/26382 (also relevant for the video mentioned by Anne H. And I suggested leaving things as they are on Amara as the banged-together words don't really hamper translation, and as the YT subtitled remained unafected, thanks to the YT channel not being connected to Amara.

"Jules Rincon started a topic 9 months ago (2012-10-25 October 25th: Yesterday, we made a significant update to Amara, including a number of bug fixes and a new infrastructure setup that makes Amara much more robust in case of AWS failures. As part of the update, we re-index all the videos in the system. Last night during the update we had a few video indexing issues, which may have made it seem like videos disappeared from your team. We attempted to repair this last night, but need to make some additional changes before the repair is complete."

Example of how issues caused by an upgrade should be announced in the Updates and News board of the help forum. A similar announcement should be made about the issues caused by the June 29, 2013 upgrade: - Disappeared subtitles and subtitle revisions (solved) - Slow server -> Bad Gateway (perhaps solved) - Disappeared video language setting in Amara video pages - Problem with viewing subtitles in player - Subtitle editing problems - Legacy translation editor replaced by Legacy transcription editor - Deleted line breaks etc: the post could be marked "in progress" so as to accomodate new issues.