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Matthew Rodin

Animal Experimentation: Debatabase - Debate Topics and Debate Motions - 4 views

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experimentation cons pros Animal Testing animal debate

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  • Animals have the right to be treated as beings of value in themselves
    • Matthew Rodin
      Matthew Rodin on 21 Nov 11
       
      Encore une fois, la valeur de l'égalité même entre des espèces différentes!
  • the end of cruelty to animals
  • animals are not routinely treated well by animal experimenters
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  • millions of animals die each year in experiments, others are often not adequately anaesthetised and are abused by handlers and experimenters.
  • ew breakthroughs have been made as a result of animal experimentatio
    • Matthew Rodin
      Matthew Rodin on 21 Nov 11
       
      Ca montre que l'expérimentation animale produit une pourcentage minimale de succès!
  • There has been a catalogue of errors and failures in animal testing,
  • Human beings share about 99% of their genes with chimpanzees and only slightly fewer with other monkeys. As a result, the reactions of these creatures are a very good guide to possible reactions of human patients. Even lower down the scale, other animals share the same basic physiology with humans. Furthermore, it would be immoral to risk the life of a human being when a medicine or procedure could instead be tested on a non-human animal. In fact, most animal experiments are done on animals that are nothing like hum
  • Scientifically, as well as morally, most animal experimentation is to be rejected - the reaction of a mouse to a substance is no guide to human reactions
  • The advent of genetic technologies has made possible all sorts of new and horrific acts of animal exploitation
  • t is only acceptable to test human medicines on human beings if they give their consent. Non-human animals are never able to give such consent
    • Matthew Rodin
      Matthew Rodin on 21 Nov 11
       
      "Animals have the right to be treated as beings of value in themselves" -L'égalité!!!! C'est une bonne valeur pour l'argumentation. Besoin de plus de statistiques...
    • Matthew Rodin
      Matthew Rodin on 21 Nov 11
       
      "Millions of animals die each year in experiments, others are often not adequately anaesthetised and are abused by handlers and experimenters" -C'est LE point le plus concrète du débat CONTRE l'expérimentation animale. Besoin de faits avec sources, par contre.
    • Matthew Rodin
      Matthew Rodin on 21 Nov 11
       
      "The advent of genetic technologies has made possible all sorts of new and horrific acts of animal exploitation" -Le fait que la technologie évolue continuellement est un bon point pour nous car il y a plusieurs méthodes ou les animaux ne doivent pas être mal traités!
    • Matthew Rodin
      Matthew Rodin on 21 Nov 11
       
      "There has been a catalogue of errors and failures in animal testing." -Le fait qu'il y a une très grand nombre de fautes dans l'expérimentation animale est un argument qui va caser tous ceux de l'autre équipe. Si vous voulez tester des médicament POUR les humains, tester-les SUR les humains, et non pas sur d'autres espèces qui vont réagir différemment!
  • There has been a catalogue of errors and failures in animal testing,
  • Matthew Rodin on 21 Nov 11
     
    C'est une bonne outil pour les deux équipes qui sont en débat contre ou pour l'expérimentation animale.
Matthew Rodin

Scientific Argument Against Animal Testing - 1 views

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Testing scientific animal

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  • Animals not only react differently than humans to different drugs, vaccines, and experiments, they also react differently from one another. Ignoring this difference has been and continues to be very costly to human health.
  • Thalidomide tragedy of the 1960s and 1970s
  • Clioquinol
    • Matthew Rodin
      Matthew Rodin on 21 Nov 11
       
      Les deux exemples en haut sont deux évènements très tragiques qui se sont arrivées ou les médicaments ont été expérimentés sur les animaux et tout été correcte. Cependant, quand les humains l'on essayé, cela a causé beaucoup de complications!
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  • the Journal of the American Medical Association reported that 100,000 people every year are killed and more than 2 million are hospitalized as a result of prescription drugs used as prescribed
  • The British Medical Journal recently reported that 4 out of every 10 patients who take a prescribed drug can expect to suffer severe or noticeable side effects, while numerous clinical observers agree that the incidence of iatrogenesis (medically induced disease) is now so great that approximately 1 in every 10 hospital beds is occupied by a patient who has been made ill by their doctor.
  • Human medicine can no longer be based on veterinary medicine
  • There are endless examples of the differences between humans and non-human animals. PCP is a sedative for chimps Penicillin kills cats and guinea pigs but has saved many human lives. Arsenic is not poisonous to rats, mice, or sheep. Morphine is a sedative for humans but is a stimulant for cats, goats, and horses. Digitalis while dangerously raising blood pressure in dogs continues to save countless cardiac patients by lowering heart rate.
    • Matthew Rodin
      Matthew Rodin on 21 Nov 11
       
      Les 5 exemples en haut sont essentiel pour notre argument. Ca montre que les tests devraient être faites sur le humains pour voir 100% les effets que les médicaments vont avoir sur NOTRE espèce et non pas une autre.
  • Animal research is not aiding the fight against cancer. In fact, it is diverting resources from effective research and from the most obvious solution which is prevention
  • According to the National Cancer Institute, 80% of all cancers are preventable.
    • Matthew Rodin
      Matthew Rodin on 21 Nov 11
       
      C'est une excellente site pour décrire scientifiquement que l'expérimentation animale n'aide pas les humains, et au contraire nous endommage. À la fin, il y a un liste de 5 exemples de différences entre les humain et les "non-humains". Je pense que ça résume bien l'idée de l'article qui finalement veut prouver avec beaucoup de statistiques (en jaune) que les expérimentation sur les animaux sont faux non pas seulement parce que les humains réagissent différemment des animaux aux médicaments mais aussi parce que les animaux réagissent les unes aux autres différemment!
  • Matthew Rodin on 21 Nov 11
     
    C'est un lien qui donne des grands points pour l'argument CONTRE l'expérimentation animale pour des raisons médicales
Elior Yona

Discovery Institute - Bioethics - Articles/News - Pro-Animal or Anti-Human?: - 0 views

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Animal Testing

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  • While it is true that medical researchers have developed some alternatives to animal use in recent years, such as computer simulation and the use of human-cell lines, these tools are merely useful supplements and complements - not replacements - to research with animals.
    • Elior Yona
      Elior Yona on 01 Dec 11
       
      This is a very good point for my group. Here we can clearly see that other forms of medical and scientifical testing can never be seen as replacements.
  • prevent a pandemic
  • As a result of these animal studies, WHO researchers have announced that the coronavirus is, without a doubt, the cause of SARS.
    • Elior Yona
      Elior Yona on 01 Dec 11
       
      Obviously, since the scientists didn't even know what caused SARS, testing on animals let them figure this out. With an epidemic like SARS you can save millions, and this was the case.
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  • which means that either animals or humans must be used
  • what does honesty matter when the cause of ending human hegemony over animals is so important and just?
  • . While it is true that medical researchers have developed some alternatives to animal use in recent years, such as computer simulation and the use of human-cell lines, these tools are merely useful supplements and complements - not replacements - to research with animals.
  • ent years, such as computer simulation and the use of human-cell lines, these tools are
Mira Marhaba

On Liberty by John Stuart Mill : chapter three - 0 views

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  • Among the works of man, which human life is rightly employed in perfecting and beautifying, the first in importance surely is man himself. Supposing it were possible to get houses built, corn grown, battles fought, causes tried, and even churches erected and prayers said, by machinery--by automatons in human form--it would be a considerable loss to exchange for these automatons even the men and women who at present inhabit the more civilized parts of the world, and who assuredly are but starved specimens of what nature can and will produce. Human nature is not a machine to be built after a model, and set to do exactly the work prescribed for it, but a tree, which requires to grow and develop itself on all sides, according to the tendency of the inward forces which make it a living thing.
  • Mira Marhaba on 21 Oct 11
     
    This quote gives an example that goes along the lines of this (my interpretation): if we were able to replace anything that humans are doing, with machinery, and in doing so, increase our efficiency, shouldn't we? Well let me ask you this, isn't that what we're already doing? We let the computers and phones and websites and machines take over our whole lives. It may not be very clear how this relates to our topic, but in my opinion, the author worded it in a way to challenge the reader. He asks the question in a way to make the reader respond "Of course not. Why would we replace ourselves with something like a robot?" before they realize that we have, in fact, partially replaced ourselves with these "robots". I think this is important  because it shows how sometimes, just by hearing the theory of an argument, some people will say that it is wrong wrong wrong, but when actually faced with that problem, they would realize that there may be some exceptions to some moral rules. (argument should be used if they show statistics about more people agreeing that torture should not be used)
Mira Marhaba

Should prostitution be legal? - Prostitution - ProCon.org - 0 views

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shared by Mira Marhaba on 20 Nov 11 - No Cached
  • "One cannot support the reduction of AIDS infections and support legal prostitution at the same time. Prostitution remains one of the leading vectors for AIDS infection. This is true in the case of both legal and illegal prostitution... Prostitutes, because of their many partners, have a greatly increased risk of exposure to HIV. They are likewise able to spread HIV to many other partners...
    • Mira Marhaba
      Mira Marhaba on 20 Nov 11
       
      Dans notre société, on essaie de reduire le sida et tous les autres "STD". En légalisant la prostitution, on va surement élever les taux de STD.
  • There are a multitude of studies to show the high level of abuse that prostitutes suffer. Women are literally bought and sold as property. The incidence of drug addiction is high among women, partially explaining why they became prostitutes to begin with. The argument for legalization goes something like this. Prostitution will happen anyway but legalization and regulation will help stem the abuses. The argument has 50,000 foot appeal. Using the same logic, slavery (which still exists in many places) should be legalized so underground slaves can be given some measure of human rights. The fact that the ACLU and the bevy of left-wing international groups don't argue for the legalization of slavery shows the logical inconsistency of their position. Further, the legalization of abortion has shown that it lead to a radical increase in abortion. The legalization will lead to an untold number of women being forced into sex slavery. Make no mistake, women will be forced into commercial sex work in greater numbers if it were legalized."
    • Mira Marhaba
      Mira Marhaba on 20 Nov 11
       
      Les femmes vont faire face a une grande quantité d'abus. Le plus qu'on a de prostitution, le plus qu'on va avoir d'abus de femmes.
  • Legalized prostitution creates the same problems that legalized marijuana does. While prostitution is legal, forced prostitution is not. The latter occurs, and the new German law unintentionally makes it harder to hunt down human traffickers, especially from Eastern Europe and Africa. Similarly, it is harder to combat under-aged prostitution. With legalized marijuana and prostitution, Amsterdam became a magnet for human traffickers, drug traders and petty criminals. This is not the world legalization’s proponents envisioned, but it happened."
    • Mira Marhaba
      Mira Marhaba on 20 Nov 11
       
      ABUS!! Ca va être beaucoup plus difficile de trouver des criminels (qui forcent des autres a se prostituer) si on a cette loi
Giuliano Musacchio

BBC - Ethics - Animal ethics: Experimenting on animals - 0 views

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  • Against animal experiments: Experimenting on animals is always unacceptable because: it causes suffering to animals the benefits to human beings are not proven any benefits to human beings that animal testing does provide could be produced in other ways
    • Giuliano Musacchio
      Giuliano Musacchio on 22 Nov 11
       
      Des raisons pourquoi ceci devrait être illégal!
  • The equivalent case against is that the level of suffering and the number of animals involved are both so high that the benefits to humanity don't provide moral justification.
    • Giuliano Musacchio
      Giuliano Musacchio on 22 Nov 11
       
      Immoral! 
  • The three Rs are: Reduction, Refinement, Replacement.
    • Giuliano Musacchio
      Giuliano Musacchio on 22 Nov 11
       
      Idées pour arrêter ses actions
Hagit Malikin

Torture uses the body against the soul. It is illegal and dumb | Charles Guthrie - Time... - 0 views

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human rights torture UN

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  • The Geneva Conventions and the UN Convention Against Torture, firewalls for our collective humanity, expressly forbid it. It is prohibited without qualification in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights - a document signed by people from every corner and culture of the Earth who had survived the suffering of both world wars, the horrors of fascism, and the evil of the Holocaust. They understood well that global humanitarian norms and a rules-based world order are in all our interests
    • Hagit Malikin
      Hagit Malikin on 10 Oct 11
       
      people signed a document saying that torture is not permitted for ny reason. some people went through holocaust, wars and still they dont accept torture
  • Hagit Malikin on 10 Oct 11
     
    people signed a document agreeing that torture is wrong even after being faced with wars, holocausts etc
anonymous

Animal testing should always be allowed! - 1 views

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Animal Testing Allowed Torture Pro Con

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    • anonymous
      anonymous on 22 Nov 11
       
      Here are some pro we can use as rebuttle
  • but also animal lives are saved because of animal testing.
  • Many of the medications and procedures that we currently use today wouldn’t exist
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  • Many argue that the lives of animals may be worthy of some respect, but the value we give on their lives does not count as much as the value we give to human life.
  • lifesaving medical breakthroughs that are the result of animal testing
  • open heart surgery, organ transplants, effective insulin, vaccines for deadly diseases
  • anonymous on 22 Nov 11
     
    Testing on animals brought so much for human health that i should be allowed. Some great rebuttle points we can use.
Matthew Rodin

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights - 0 views

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  • Article 1. All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
  • Article 5. No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment
  • Article 18. Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
  • Matthew Rodin on 31 Oct 11
     
    La déclaration des droits humaines des Nations Unis
Elior Yona

Pro-Testing Group Backs Oxford Animal Research Lab : NPR - 0 views

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animal research oxford testing

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  • it's so obvious to most people that there are benefits from animal experiments, and those who might speak out, that is people who actually do work in animal research, have, quite rightly, been very worried about whether they were putting themselves and their families at risk.
  • But Stein says despite that, he and others have finally decided they must speak out. He points out that penicillin was first isolated at Oxford, tested on 20 mice in a lab just near his. Vaccines have been developed here too that have saved millions of lives, he says. Oxford scientists are now working on a cure for malaria. All have involved testing on animals.
  • xford scientists are now working on a cure for malaria. All have involved testing on animals.
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    • Elior Yona
      Elior Yona on 01 Dec 11
       
      Example of people speaking out and protesting for pro animal testing.
    • Elior Yona
      Elior Yona on 01 Dec 11
       
      Here we can see that Oxford has found medication by testing it on animals which is necessary so that humans can take it as well.
  • Elior Yona on 01 Dec 11
     
    Here is a very well reliable website. Even though most of the information is not so beneficial for my group (pro), there is still some small examples and points that can help us along the way.
naomi suissa

Making a Case for Euthanasia - TIME - 0 views

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suffer burden principles conditions dignified

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  • The 52- year-old Dijon schoolteacher suffers from a rare disease that has left her disfigured by facial tumors, which will also damage her brain over time and eventually kill her.
    • naomi suissa
      naomi suissa on 23 Nov 11
       
      Pour moi, les mots clés dans cette citation son "eventually kill her". Elles montrent la sévérité du cas de Chantal Sebire et nous aide a comprendre pourquoi elle demande que la loi de l'euthanasie soit ré-évaluée.
  • Her death will come, they say, after a long coma that will reduce her to being nothing but an inanimate burden on her family.
    • naomi suissa
      naomi suissa on 23 Nov 11
       
      Est-ce que c'est meilleure de la laisser vivre en souffrant au point qu'elle sera considérée comme fardeau inanimé, ou respecter ses vœux de mourir avec de la paix et de la dignité?
  • "when I hear debates on euthanasia, I tell myself that while I respect the principles, the convictions, at the bottom of my heart I still say there are limits to the suffering that can be imposed on a human."
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  • "It's hard for my children to imagine me going away there," Sebire explains, "but I can't take this anymore."
    • naomi suissa
      naomi suissa on 23 Nov 11
       
      Elle est une mère de 3 enfants et elle veut quand même être libérée de sa vie. Pourquoi devrait-on la forcer de vivre avec ses circonstances?
  • naomi suissa on 23 Nov 11
     
    Chantal Sebire- une femme de 52 ans qui souffre d'une maladie rare esthioneuroblastoma. Elle veut que la loi contre l'euthanasie soit ré-évaluée dans son cas. Cette article nous aide à comprendre sa vie dure et sa perspective sur sa situation.
Giuliano Musacchio

How Much Does Animal Testing Tell Us? - TIME - 1 views

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  • Not a week goes by without news of a lab breakthrough using rats or mice. But of all the promising medical interventions that make it to animal trials, only a fraction seem to translate into major breakthroughs for humans.
    • Giuliano Musacchio
      Giuliano Musacchio on 22 Nov 11
       
      Ces projets peuvent conduire à nulle part. Tester sur des animaux et ne pas obtenir des résultats est absurde.
anonymous

Using Animals for Testing: Pros Versus Cons - About Animal Testing - 2 views

www.aboutanimaltesting.co.uk/-testing-pros-versus-cons.html

Animal for Testing Pros and Cons Human Medicine Health

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  • ids researchers in finding drugs and treatments to improve health and medicine.
  • treatments
  • and treatments
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  • cancer and HIV drugs, insulin, antibiotics, vaccines
    • anonymous
      anonymous on 22 Nov 11
       
      reason why its so important.
  • anonymous on 22 Nov 11
     
    Why is animal testing so important. Advancement in our medical field. Great for our points.
naomi suissa

The Pursuit Of Happiness - Where Can I Find Real Happiness? - 1 views

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pursuit happiness find

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  • The pursuit of happiness is instictive for most human beings.
    • naomi suissa
      naomi suissa on 10 Oct 11
       
      Cela est intéressant car il nous montre que c'est normal que la plupart d'entre nous attend pour le bonheur!
  • happiness is our normal condition.
  • I think a better description for unhappiness should be: self-ignorance.
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  • to be truly happy requires something outside your current way of thinking
  • The pursuit of happiness requires that you first accept that your mind-defined-you is just a very small expression the real you. The real you has practically unlimited power and wisdom.
  • The thing is, most people pretend to be happy when they are not. Some can't accept that there is no pursuit of happiness
    • naomi suissa
      naomi suissa on 10 Oct 11
       
      Je crois que cet article est très utile pour mon débat. Il me donne plusieurs points intéressants qui me laisse penser à la vraie définition de la poursuite du bonheur.
  • naomi suissa on 10 Oct 11
     
    Who am I? -- This article really helps us understand happiness and unhappiness.
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