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Graham Perrin

A Deluge of Facts KOs OOXML (Office Open XML) | Fanatic Attack - 2 views

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ODF Microsoft OOXML

shared by Graham Perrin on 21 Oct 08 - Cached
  • Microsoft is still hiding the migration tables
  • Those tables simply are not provided in the specifications, despite the stated goal that Microsoft is doing so openly.
    • Graham Perrin
      Graham Perrin on 21 Oct 08
       
      I wonder whether this remains true.
  • OOXML is custom fit for Microsoft’s products only
Gary Edwards

Sun and Microsoft confirm data center lovechild | The Register - 0 views

www.theregister.co.uk/...sun_microsoft_lab

microsoft server-farms sun viridian

shared by Gary Edwards on 22 Mar 08 - Cached
  • Microsoft has been less offensive to McNealy and Sun ever since it forked over about $2bn to settle disputes, agreed to an interoperability pact and helped chuck Windows on Sun servers. Now the companies plan to expand their mutual admiration society via an Interoperability Center. Sun will send a bunch of servers and storage boxes up to the Redmond-based center. Engineers from both companies will work on testing Microsoft's server software with the gear. We're told that such work could lead to breakthroughs in 64-bit database technology and amazing e-mail servers.
Gary Edwards

How Microsoft Lost the API War - Joel on Software - 0 views

www.joelonsoftware.com/...APIWar.html

shared by Gary Edwards on 11 Jan 08 - Cached
  • Most .NET developers are ASP.NET developers, developing for Microsoft's web server. ASP.NET is brilliant; I've been working with web development for ten years and it's really just a generation ahead of everything out there. But it's a server technology, so clients can use any kind of desktop they want. And it runs pretty well under Linux using Mono. None of this bodes well for Microsoft and the profits it enjoyed thanks to its API power. The new API is HTML, and the new winners in the application development marketplace will be the people who can make HTML sing.
    • Gary Edwards
      Gary Edwards on 11 Jan 08
       
      How Microsoft lost the API War is one of the most important and influential commentaries ever published by Joel On Software. Always worth looking back to, even now in 2008!
Gary Edwards

Q&A: Former Mass. CIO feels \'bittersweet pride\' after battles with Mi... - 0 views

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shared by Gary Edwards on 12 Dec 07 - Cached
  • Q&A: Former Mass. CIO feels 'bittersweet pride' after battles with Microsoft, legislature Gutierrez says he would make same choices again that he did in ODF and IT funding fights
  • Gary Edwards on 12 Dec 07
     
    Whoa, Wiki Ricki is right.  This is a great article!  A must read interview with Louis Gutierrez.  I wonder though, since it was ComputerWorld and the Boston Globe that filed the August 2006 Freedom of Information Act invocation to get all the Massachusetts conversations and meetings, no doubt they were carryign some heavy ammunition into this interview.  Up until this interview it's been next to impossible for the public or press to get truthful information.  This is a good start, and i for one wonder just how far Massachusetts execs are willing to go with their public disclosures?
Gary Edwards

California may join rush of states toward ODF - 0 views

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shared by Gary Edwards on 12 Dec 07 - Cached
  • Like the other two measures, the bill in the California Assembly doesn't list any specific document formats that could be used. But as in Minnesota and Texas, the introduction of such a bill appears to be another potential win for backers of the Open Document Format (ODF) for Office Applications.
  • Gary Edwards on 12 Dec 07
     
    Good article about the opening salvo in what promises to be a long, hard fought war with Microsoft.  Unlike what has happened in the EU and Massachusetts, this time our friends in Redmond are politically facing off on the home turf of their powerful enemies in Silicon Valley, which stretches from the south of market area (SOMA) all the way down the San Francisco peninsula to San Jose, arching around the entire Bay area.

    If you thought it was raining dollars from Redmond in Massachusetts as the great monopolist moved to successfully shut down the entire Information Technology budget, including HomeLand Security projects, the battle of California promises to be the el nino of perfect storms.  I'm confident though that California CIO Clark Kelso and five star brigadiere general Bill Welty will stand tall against the storm.  I can hardly wait for the forces to move into place and the action begin.  What a show this is going to be.

    Meanwhile, what's at stake here is all the marbles of our digital future.  Forcing Microsoft to accept and fully implement the OpenDcoument XML file format is something the great monopolist has shown they will fight to the bitter end.  Brace yourselves!

Gary Edwards

The Joel on Software Discussion Group - Microsoft's ridiculous Office Open XML - 0 views

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  • Gary Edwards on 12 Dec 07
     
    A legthy discussion of the MSOffice bound MOOXML file format. that was triggered by Rob Weir's infamous blog, "How to Hire Guillame Portes".  Lots of comments, pro and con, as to whether or not the applications specific tags used so extensibvely by MOOXML are needed, or not.

    Many argue that the application bound tags should have been fully described.  That every tag in the specification should also include the informaiton needed to implement it.  Agreed!  Otherwise, the specification does not qualify as a standard.  It's simply a vendor specific, and in this case highly proprietary and encumbered file format.

    Others argue that the app bound tags are the only way for Microsoft to provide backwards compatibility with the billions of binary documents bound to MSOffice through proprieatry and secret binary file formats.  These people argue that embedding an application specific binary in the XML file format, instead of converting it to proper XML, is the only way to insure backwards compatibilty.  BS.  There is no technical reason not to convert it to proper XML.  But that would mean fully describing the binary objects, including the nature of their application dependency.  Something Microsoft is quite reluctant to do.

    The truth of the matter is that if the binary object is to be part of a specification submitted to ISO for standards consideration, then it should be fully described, including how to implement it.  Otherwise, MOOXML is just a standard for one.  A standard for Micrsoft only since they are  the only ones with the secret blueprint as to how to implement these binary objects.

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  • Gary Edwards on 12 Dec 07
     
    A legthy discussion of the MSOffice bound MOOXML file format. that was triggered by Rob Weir's infamous blog, "How to Hire Guillame Portes". Lots of comments, pro and con
  • Gary Edwards on 12 Dec 07
     
    A legthy discussion of the MSOffice bound MOOXML file format. that was triggered by Rob Weir's infamous blog, "How to Hire Guillame Portes". Lots of comments, pro and con
  • Gary Edwards on 12 Dec 07
     
    A legthy discussion of the MSOffice bound MOOXML file format. that was triggered by Rob Weir's infamous blog, "How to Hire Guillame Portes". Lots of comments, pro and con
Gary Edwards

PlexNex: HUMOR: Interoperability, Choice and Open XML - 0 views

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shared by Gary Edwards on 12 Dec 07 - Cached
  • reflects the functionality in those products.
  • It is important to recognize that ODF and Open XML were created with very different design goals and that they are only two of many document format standards in use today, each of which has characteristics that are attractive to different users in different scenarios
  • Gary Edwards on 12 Dec 07
     
    Sam really nailsit with this satirical commentary on the spliny whiny letter Microsoft wrote begging the world to reconsider the proprietary application and platform bound Microsoft Office Open XML file format as an international standard for office productivity suites.
Gary Edwards

Fear not beloved 450! - 0 views

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shared by Gary Edwards on 12 Dec 07 - Cached
  • Gary Edwards on 12 Dec 07
     
    ODF and the great herd of 450 million Win32 bound desktop users have an interesting furture ahead. Microsoft will try to force march them to the integrated Vista Stack and on into the Age of Collaborative Computing. IBM will try to bring collaborative co
  • Gary Edwards on 12 Dec 07
     
    ODF and the great herd of 450 million Win32 bound desktop users have an interesting furture ahead. Microsoft will try to force march them to the integrated Vista Stack and on into the Age of Collaborative Computing. IBM will try to bring collaborative co
  • Gary Edwards on 12 Dec 07
     
    ODF and the great herd of 450 million Win32 bound desktop users have an interesting furture ahead. Microsoft will try to force march them to the integrated Vista Stack and on into the Age of Collaborative Computing. IBM will try to bring collaborative co
Gary Edwards

Open Sources | InfoWorld | The Future of Lock-in | May 17, 2006 08:56 AM | By Matt Asay - 0 views

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  • Gary Edwards on 12 Dec 07
     
    Whoa, Matt Asay knocks one out of the ballpark! Finally a Web 2.0 provider who understands the importance of the Exchange/SharePoint Hub, and the long term lockin of critical day to day business processes that Microsoft has brewing. One thing he doesn't
  • Gary Edwards on 12 Dec 07
     
    Whoa, Matt Asay knocks one out of the ballpark! Finally a Web 2.0 provider who understands the importance of the Exchange/SharePoint Hub, and the long term lockin of critical day to day business processes that Microsoft has brewing. One thing he doesn't
  • Gary Edwards on 12 Dec 07
     
    Whoa, Matt Asay knocks one out of the ballpark! Finally a Web 2.0 provider who understands the importance of the Exchange/SharePoint Hub, and the long term lockin of critical day to day business processes that Microsoft has brewing. One thing he doesn't
Gary Edwards

Joint letter to the Open Source Community From Novell and Microsoft - 0 views

www.novell.com/...openletter.html

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shared by Gary Edwards on 12 Dec 07 - Cached
  • Gary Edwards on 12 Dec 07
     
    This makes me sick. The indemnification nazis are driving a patent wedge right through the heart and soul of open source.
  • Gary Edwards on 12 Dec 07
     
    This makes me sick. The indemnification nazis are driving a patent wedge right through the heart and soul of open source.
  • Gary Edwards on 12 Dec 07
     
    This makes me sick. The indemnification nazis are driving a patent wedge right through the heart and soul of open source.
Gary Edwards

The better Office alternative: SoftMaker Office bests OpenOffice.org ( - Soft... - 0 views

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shared by Gary Edwards on 30 Jun 09 - Cached
  • Frankly, from Microsoft's perspective, the danger may have been overstated. Though the free open source crowd talks a good fight, the truth is that they keep missing the real target. Instead of investing in new features that nobody will use, the team behind OpenOffice should take a page from the SoftMaker playbook and focus on interoperability first. Until OpenOffice works out its import/export filter issues, it'll never be taken seriously as a Microsoft alternative. More troubling (for Microsoft) is the challenge from the SoftMaker camp. These folks have gotten the file-format compatibility issue licked, and this gives them the freedom to focus on building out their product's already respectable feature set. I wouldn't be surprised if SoftMaker got gobbled up by a major enterprise player in the near, thus creating a viable third way for IT shops seeking to kick the Redmond habit.
    • Gary Edwards
      Gary Edwards on 30 Jun 09
       
      Wow. Somebody who finally gets it. OpenOffice and OpenOffice ODF were not designed to be compatible with Microsoft Office, the MSOffice productivity environment, and, the legacy of binary documents. Softmaker is not the only Office Suite alternative designed for compatibility with MSOffice. ThinkFree Office and Evermore Office are also proof positive that high level compatibility is possible.
Alex Brown

Microsoft and OpenDocument Format - At Last Some Compatibility? - News - eWeekEurope.co.uk - 0 views

www.eweekeurope.co.uk/...-last-some-compatibility--1082

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  • It might have been helpful if Microsoft had targeted instead ODF 1.2,
    • Alex Brown
      Alex Brown on 09 Jun 09
       
      Sigh; people don't seem to get that 1.2 doesn't exist ...
Paul Merrell

Federal future cloudy for Microsoft Word -- Government Computer News - 0 views

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i4i MSWord custom xml patent

shared by Paul Merrell on 18 Aug 09 - Cached
  • “We have explained [to federal agencies] ways of moving from Microsoft Word to an i4i implementation of custom XML,” said Michael Vuple, i4i’s founder. “If agencies want custom XML, we are prepared, and we are working on a way for them to use our technology.” The company hasn’t been actively marketing that approach to government so far because it didn’t want to take advantage of the current “unfortunate situation,” he said. But with agencies likely to be asking the question, he said i4i will probably have to take a more proactive stance in the future.
Gary Edwards

Microsoft-led Forum Yields Tools for OOXML Interoperability - Business Center - PC World - 0 views

www.pcworld.com/...or_ooxml_interoperability.html

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shared by Gary Edwards on 20 May 09 - Cached
  • Gary Edwards on 20 May 09
     
    Is there nothing that can cool the flames of this document war? Interesting coverage of the recent OOXML Interoperability event in London (Monday). Real stuff not talk. Since Florian, Jason and i are working on an OpenWeb ready HTML+ layer riding over OOXML there are some things mentioned that look very interesting. ..."An Opera browser plug-in for Open XML Document Viewer v1.0 was released at the meeting; the tool provides direct translation for Open XML documents (.DOCX) to HTML, enabling access to Open XML documents from any platform with a Web browser, including mobile devices. The document-viewing software already includes a plug-in for Firefox, Internet Explorer 7 and Internet Explorer 8...." ..."Microsoft and the other participants in Monday's forum also made available a beta of Apache POI 3.5, a Java API (application programming interface) to access information in the Open XML Format....."
Graham Perrin

ODF Alliance Weblog: Microsoft's ODF Support Falls Short - 0 views

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shared by Graham Perrin on 19 May 09 - Cached
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  • “Unfortunately, serious shortcomings have been identified in Microsoft’s support for ODF. Putting potentially millions of ODF files into circulation that are non-interoperable and incompatible with the ODF support provided by other vendors is a recipe for fragmentation.”
    • Alex Brown
      Alex Brown on 19 May 09
       
      I think Mr Marcich forgot to put inverted commas round his particular use of "ODF" to denote its special meaning ...
  • Microsoft’s ODF Support Falls Short
  • some of the so-called ‘plug-ins’ were revealed to provide better support for ODF than the recently released Microsoft Office 2007 SP2
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  • plug-ins for Microsoft Office written by third parties were revealed to provide better support for ODF than the recently released Microsoft Office 2007 SP2
  • SourceForge “OpenXML/ODF Translator Add-in for Office
  • Sun Plug-In 3.0
  • fail when using the “built-in” support provided by Office 2007 SP2
Gary Edwards

Can Microsoft Count on Inertia to Spur Office 2010 Upgrades? | Eric Lai - CIO Article C... - 0 views

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shared by Gary Edwards on 17 Apr 09 - Cached
  • Gary Edwards on 17 Apr 09
     
    This article left me a bit confused. The author poses an important question about the next release of MSOffice; MSOffice 2010. Or what others have called MSOffice 11. The question is whether or not end users will buy into the new features, and continue on the upgrade treadmill as they have for the past 15 years or so. Strangely though, there is no discussion of the traditional factors binding end users to the upgrade treadmill. Things like ever changing formats, protocols and interfaces. Nor is there discussion as to the impact of marketplace demands that Microsoft comply with open standards; including open document exchange formats like ODF, OOXML and HTML+ (the advanced WebKit-Ajax document model).

    The thing is, it's more than simple "inertia" that compels people to jump on the upgrade treadmill. The ODF pilot studies conducted in Massachusetts, California, Denmark and Belgium brought into sharp focus the difficulties workgroups have in replacing MSOffice. Years of client/server systems designed to run within the MSOffice productivity environment has left many a business process bound to the MSOffice suite of editors and the compound documents they produce.

    I left my response in the reader feedback section of this CIO article.

    ".....In the past, the MSOffice upgrade treadmill was unavoidable due to the file format compatibility problem. As workgroups and business divisions purchased new computers with newer versions of MSOffice, resulting file format incompatibilities made workflow exchange of documents impossibly frustrating. Eventually, entire workgroups were forced into upgrading just to keep day to day business processes working....."
Paul Merrell

i4i-Microsoft battle over Word coming to a head - 0 views

blog.seattlepi.com/...179926.asp

Microsoft Word custom xml i4i patent

shared by Paul Merrell on 23 Sep 09 - Cached
  • "The implications going forward are immense," i4i Chairman Loudon Owen said. "We were accused initially of wanting to shut down Word. We don't want to shut down Word, we want to open it up."
Gary Edwards

High-latency, low-bandwidth windowing in the Jupiter collaboration system - 0 views

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shared by Gary Edwards on 03 Sep 09 - Cached
  • Gary Edwards on 03 Sep 09
     
    Operational  Transforms (OT) is used by Microsoft CustomXML and Google Wave!  The original idea was first presented by Zerox Parc researchers in 1995, prior to the i4i patent.  The Jupiter System  includes the Jupiter Window Tool Kit, wich is all about OT.  XML came much later with the i4i patent for encoding XML with OT positioning. Insert(pos, text)Delete(pos, num-of-chars) See Google Wave API: http://www.waveprotocol.org/whitepapers/operational-transform Credit Florian Reuter for this find!!!!! 
Gary Edwards

How Microsoft Fought True Open Standards II - Open Enterprise - 2 views

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  • Gary Edwards on 26 Apr 12
     
    Need to respond to Graeme Harrison's comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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