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Taylor Rofinot

Stone: Chapter 14 Rights - 21 views

i believe that we do have rights but that they are not equal. like I said in class although we have our inalienable rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness not everyone has the full e...

Mangala Kanayson

3quarksdaily: LEGOS and the Changing Face of American Higher Education - 6 views

  • it’s whatever you want it to be, or perhaps more accurately, whatever you can make of it
    • Joshua Gray
       
      Just like school
    • Joshua Gray
       
      The difference in colors of highlights is intentional. I picked blue as a cause or a situation/event. The green then represents a result of either one or more blue highlights nearby.
    • Mike Frieda
       
      This paragraph features demographic information that helps establish the focus of the article TU
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  • In other words, Towson University offers a reasonable cross-section of Northeastern American college students.
  • I attribute that to their having grown up with the internet.
  • Simply put, they’re much more open minded than my generation
  • But not anymore.  Now LEGOS come with specific plans and goals.
  • Here are your instructions.  Do it this way.  Here is your goal.  Achieve what has been carefully laid out for you.  Your success or failure will be defined by these very clear and rigid parameters.
    • Mangala Kanayson
       
      The individual's "good life" is sacrificed for 'success,' as  defined by said "clear and rigid parameters."
    • Mike Frieda
       
      This is an excellent point, and while I do not see the psychological effects of different versions of LEGOS actually affecting youth, I do agree with the author that 'career tracking' is becoming more and more prevalent.
  • They haven’t spent enough time discovering, wondering, and inventing.  Instead, too often they have been given detailed blueprints about what their LEGO world should look like.
    • Mike Frieda
       
      This strikes me as the author's key argument. 
  • It can be a painful lesson in the need to write clearly and the importance of knowing your audience, and a lot of them have already learned it by the time they get to my class.
    • Nancy Camarillo
       
      It is interesting to see how the author attributes writing clearly and knowing how formulate thoughts to your audience based on the social tendencies of this generation.
  • The result is that  today’s students are far more comfortable simply accepting an idea, person, or thing for what it is.
    • Nancy Camarillo
       
      Although in our modern society war is a common term, it doesn't physically affect us as much as it would have during past eras such as world wars. Our lives are not perfect, but we have the ability to live a much comfortable life and shape our policies to fulfill that. 
  • In college this often translates into a generation of students who want the answers but are less interested in asking questions.
  • If the process is more open, then they are often confused and worried.  If they are challenged to forge their own path, to find their own answers, or god forbid to ask questions that have no clear answers, then they are apt to panic or stare at you blankly.  That kind of process either scares or confuses them.
    • Lauren Petta
       
      The author really has a clear idea of what is going on. I can personally say that I, like many others, panic when there is no "right" answer to a question. We have grown up in a world full of information. When we don't know the "correct" answer, we "google" it. We lack creativity because we don't have to do as much critical thinking. 
    • magen sanders
       
      minimalist thinking and ideas transform into what most think to be better more complex ones, but when it comes to something as simple as toys people make it more complex with set instructions but simplify it because it no longer takes creativity and ideas but following direction
    • magen sanders
       
      even though some college students today have the privilege of higher education they are "under privileged" in other ways but they still have as good if not better ideas to build their life
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    This article is very true; society does not emphasize being creative nearly as much as they emphasize doing things the "right" way. It is sad that it is so because it defeats the spirit of innovation. In careers, people who can make the quality of life better and more efficient in ways that others have never thought of are the ones who become successful and are remembered, not those who do what has already been done.
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    In the prescribed article, the author Akim Reinhardt was asked the simple question of are newer students getting better or worse. Akim Reinhardt accepted that the new students are both. I agree with the professor in some aspects because in many ways the students of the newer generations are good with some skills and bad with others. For example, the newer generations are always getting better with the new technology always coming out then the older generations. We are better at this because we grew up around technology when computers and the internet were a new and interesting thing. Because of all the advances in technology we are able to always adapt to the different types of technology. On the other hand I would say we are worse if we have to give up our technology and open up an encyclopedia to do our work. The internet has always been a source of information for us were you could find anything about a certain topic. But if we were told to just use outside information, I believe that we would struggle finding the information as the older generations would not. We grew up in a society where everything was just given to us and we were told what to do. We are so dependent on people telling us what to do that we forgotten how to basically think for ourselves and do the work that we want to do.
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    I agree with this article by Reinhardt, in society today too many people are worried about doing things the right way or the accepted way, and no longer are using their creative talents. When Reinhardt says, "When confronted with a round peg and a square hole, they are less likely to try and jam the peg in, or to blame it, judge it, and then cast it out." I agree completely with his description of students today. If i am confronted with a problem like this, I would look for another way to find a solution to my problem.
Kim H

Patternicity: Finding Meaningful Patterns in Meaningless Noise: Scientific American - 7 views

  • They begin with the formula pb > c, where a belief may be held when the cost (c) of doing so is less than the probability (p) of the benefit (b). For example, believing that the rustle in the grass is a dangerous predator when it is only the wind does not cost much, but believing that a dangerous predator is the wind may cost an animal its life.
    • Gaby Ramirez Castorena
       
      The way the author explains this is very confusing. I feel like he could have, and should have, done a better job at making this more understandable.
    • Joshua Gray
       
      True, I believe the author could have done a better job and give greater evidence to prove the point. But I feel using any religion as an example works well for this. Believing in a supreme being and any religious rquirements there in are worth doing for a person because the negative effects of it are seemingly minimal while if the person is correct than they get to go to an afterlife that is percieved better than life on earth.
    • Sarah McKee
       
      I think the predator example is a good one but yes the religion example is good as well. It's all just that the cost is less than the chance of missing out on something. Because then the cost could be far greater. Such as getting eaten by a predator or missing out on Heaven. Hiding, or running away from good food or not indulging in lots of "sinful" activity seems a small price compared to getting eaten or spending eternity in hell.
    • Tavish Dunn
       
      I agree that the author's explanations could have been clearer, but the examples of religion and the predator still illustrate the point. No matter how difficult it seems to resist the temptation of things that are deemed sinful throughout life, life is still temporary and any hardships are insignificant compared to an eternal suffering in hell. Both examples have situations where the cost of not believing in something that is true are permanent while the cost of falsely believing something are temporary.
    • Valencia Hamilto
       
      The formula pb > c was a little confusing at first, but once the author gave the explanation through the example of the predator , it all fit into place. I agree with the author that the cost is less than the chance of missing out on something.
    • Alexis Schomer
       
      This idea is very interesting and after given the examples I agree. It is better to think something is real when it isn't that the opposite. This concept is not only applicable to nature, but to many issues in life and has the same meaning and lesson when applied to anything. 
    • Karina DaSilva
       
      Exactly. I think the analogy of the predator/wind is a pretty good description of how a lot of belief systems work. It's not a scare tactic so much as it is, at least partly, a reassurance of the future of one's self.
    • Carissa Faulk
       
      This is of course very true, and also makes sense. Not only does our sense of self preservation tend to believe patterns are true if the cost is less than the potential benefits, but so should our rationality. Even though it might be wise to question whether or not the pattern is actually a pattern, it is equally wise to assume it to be one until proven otherwise.
    • madison taylor
       
      It was an interesting article, but i agree it was a little difficult to understand at times. the idea that we can see and believe things that aren't true is valid. it is also a good point that we should be more rational about things.
  • Religionists see the Virgin Mary on the side of a building.
    • Felecia Russell
       
      This is true. We develop our own beliefs and justifications for why things happen or why they are the way they are. A person see Virgin Mary and another sees Micheal Jordan is just a connection to our inner beliefs. What makes it important to us? How do we put a face to something? It reminds me of precedents in court, because they are use to make future decisions. We make connections in our minds to explain certain things!
    • Joette Carini
       
      Like Felicia, I agree with this concept. It is a little bit of a complicated explanation because when we think of priming, we think of being influences on purpose by outside sources. But, seeing the Virgin Mary on the side of a building is not a certain religion telling that person to see her everywhere they go, so it is not an intentional priming. However, I do agree that we make certain connections with certain things because of our background and how we live. 
    • Jonathan Omokawa
       
      I think it might go deeper than being religious when someone sees the Virgin Mary on the side of a building. It does scratch the surface in the article when trying to explain the Type I and Type II cognizance. It is something that might be more emotionally attached to their psyche than anything else. Or it could be just superficial belief in the paranormal or superstitions.
  • and prior events
    • Sarah McKee
       
      If it's been a predator before you're more likely to think it's a predator. Whenever your right it provides a positive reinforcement.
    • Hayley Jensen
       
      I feel like this is just a living being's natural tenancy to favor safety over harm. It comes down to being prepared for the worst, which is, as the author would say, a natural selective attribute. Error on the side of caution clearly is statistically more beneficial than the other option. An animals prime instinct is to survive in order to reproduce. Humans have a responsibility to reproduce as well as to be productive members of society. Being more "cautious" allows people to contribute more and have experiences to benefit society as well as the people around them. I am not saying everyone lives for their country/community, but people choose to live because of the personal connections we make with others, and THAT is the cost we way, the benefits of this is what is considered in the equation.
    • Hayley Jensen
       
      The connection of this idea to the concept of inequality is that we use this concept to shape what policies we fight for and ones we don't care for. The policies that come at the greatest cost with a lesser benefit are the ones that people choose not to support. Policies with the greatest benefit with the least cost is more favorable. As far as believing false negatives/positives, these beliefs are based on hope (false positives) and lack of information/ignorance (false negatives).
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    • Jacqueline Ramsay
       
      The things people watch and witness are going to be on their mind and more likely change the things he or she is watching for. For example, a person who has just watched a scary movie is more likely to hear footsteps or feel cool air against their neck even if there is nothing there. 
    • Amanda Power
       
      Exactly. The things that we experience cary through the day. We also like to come up with explinations to make things make more sense or even give them more value. Just as the Greek and Romans did when they told the tales of the Gods who did the things they could not other wise explain. An example being Helios who pulled the sun across the sky by charriot.
  • natural selection will favour strategies that make many incorrect causal associations in order to establish those that are essential for survival and reproduction
  • Why do people see faces in nature, interpret window stains as human figures, hear voices in random sounds generated by electronic devices or find conspiracies in the daily news?
    • nsamuelian
       
      I usually find myself making weird figures from the clouds in the sky. Once you start thinking about something or noticing something in your everyday life, you start seeing these figures everywhere you go. 
    • Tyler Schnorf
       
      ya i have noticed that too. we find familiar objects to us in other things when they are not even there. Our mind can see things that we are used to seeing in places where they arent
  • There is. I call it “patternicity,” or the tendency to find meaningful patterns in meaningless noise.
    • Mark Drach-Meinel
       
      I think that this is some sort of sense that is second nature to most people. We like to have order so sometimes someone might go to the extreme and try and find some sort of order in complete chaos.
    • Ryan Brown
       
      This is true and I like what mark said above...we are always trying to make order out of chaos...not sure why but that is what we always do,
    • Shannon Wirawan
       
      I agree. I guess that's why there is the saying, "Everything happens for a reason." We like to give reasons and meaning to life, to our everyday living. I think Mark was spot on in his comment. We like feeling in control of many situations in life, especially with the unexplainable. 
    • Justina Cooney
       
      I agree with everyone this makes sense. We are always trying to find the meaning in life so we constintly make patterns. I think that this author is correct in asserting that making patterns is natural and important and consequently there may be some truth in conspiracys for certain people.
    • Devin Milligan
       
      When i hear random noises, ofter there are certain tones that can make me think of a certain song. I usually turn random sounds into a song. Certain pitches can remind of certain melodies that i know. 
    • Sean McCarthy
       
      We're all correct and I'm proud of everyone's findings. There's not really much more to be said on this besides that it's true.. How that affects political policy and using it to the advantage of bettering society is what we need to figure out
    • Brandon Weger
       
      I think that we like for things to be relatable, we prefer to have things in common than to label it as the complete polar opposite of us, hence we see faces in windows and figures in clouds, and even sounds that make no sense we try to label as intelligible, because we want to have an understanding for our environment. We like patterns, because things remain constant that way, adapting to change is not really our favorite thing to do.
    • magen sanders
       
      in my english class as well we discussed how humans naturally make patterns to make stuff more simple and nderstand it more even if there is no pattern or relation. its called paradolia and we do it to simplify everything then make and find meaning in it. its a natural response and is seen as beneficial sometimes in order to understand things but can distort reality to make it understandable
    • Mike Frieda
       
      Michael Shermer is awesome and you all should definitely check out his books. I just finished reading "Why people believe weird things" and it was quite good. Shermer came and spoke at CLU last year for the SoCal leadership conference for the SSA - the video of that is available here if you are interested  http://www.youtube.com/user/SecularStudents?blend=1&ob=5#p/u/0/0kbHZ8sEwd0
  • A type I error, or a false positive, is believing something is real when it is not (finding a nonexistent pattern). A type II error, or a false negative, is not believing something is real when it is (not recognizing a real pattern—call it “apat­ternicity”).
  • . Thus, there would have been a beneficial selection for believing that most patterns are real.
    • Mike Frieda
       
      This is Shermer's main point. Because we have evolved to seek out patterns, and our survival rate tends to go up by accepting pattern outcomes as real, we are destined to believe things. This is why 'people believe weird things'. It is why we are susceptible to priming and why political story telling is so effective. 
    • Justina Cooney
       
      I agree, I think that this is an interesting point. When we typically think of conspiracy theorist we tend to picture some crazy person when in reality picking up on patterns that go deeper than what we are shown in the media might be an important survival instinct that has been lost because of stigma.
  • perience with pred
  • But such erroneous cognition is not likely to remove us from the gene pool and would therefore not have been selected against by evolution.
    • Brandon White
       
      Scientifically, this is really interesting. Although misconstruing the world around us can sometimes be seen as being a negative personality trait, evolution has determined that it is not one that is a "fatal" error or one that would inhibit growth. What we perceive in our own mind, in a way, can be negative or positive. Seeing things like the face of Jesus in a slice of toast may seem odd or crazy, but in a way it is refreshing to see different people interpreting the natural world in different ways. If we all saw the world the same, creativity would die.  Think about it: People thought Galileo was odd at first for looking at the universe differently, and now his ideas are accepted by almost all. 
  • Sometimes A really is connected to B; sometimes it is not
    • Tatiana McCuaig
       
      I know I have seen this countless times before, with people making connections between things that are completely unrelated. It seems that there is trouble with believing the simple answer, and feel that there needs to be a deeper meaning.
    • Edmund Garrett
       
      Or perhaps you connect point A with point B because point B holds specific significance to you. Like when people so 9/11 was a conspiracy. Maybe that person was dissatisfied with Bush and in order to justify his dislike for him needs to come up with a patternicity that supports his feeling.
    • Meghann Ellis
       
      I agree with Edmund. I think much that we decide with our brains has to do with importance/ significance to us. This might explain why people think that certain things are real when they aren't such as a type I error or vice versa with a type II error that believes something is false when it is really real. Humans emotions and feelings I feel make their argument make sense in their heads. 
    • Phillip Delgado
       
      i beleive that type II error, or a false negative would only make sense if the person had a mental disability. A lot of people who believe in things like UFOs known deep down that they are false. These people choose to not recognize real patterns, and by doing this in turn they are recognizing them.
  • I argue that our brains are belief engines: evolved pattern-recognition machines that connect the dots and create meaning out of the patterns that we think we see in nature.
    • jeffrey hernandez
       
      Ever since I was in pre-school I remember connecting the dots, it's something children have been taught and doing their whole life.
    • Courtney Sabile
       
      I agree with Shermer's argument. We humans do see things out of certain patterns. Such as finding shapes in the clouds or a monster from your window at night, when it really was a branch in the wind. I find it entertaining when people sell the image of the Virgin Mary on a piece of toast. These patterns fascinate our brains and link to creativity.
  • Paranormalists hear dead people speaking to them through a radio receiver.
    • Erick Sandoval
       
      Someone who claims they hear things can be because of past experiences that has had a great impact on them. I think experiences can influence what a person believes or doesn't believe. 
    • Nicolas Bianchi
       
      Absolutely it can.  People can be easily be molded not matter the circumstance
    • mgarciag
       
      I believe that the reason we see faces and other things in inanimate and amorphous objects is because either we are either searching way too hard (over analyzing) or just to accustomed to the object we are seeing.  Many of us see faces in random things and I believe that it is due to the fact that we deal with many faces each and every day.  And since we are not all clones, there is room for slight differences and changes so when we come across two spots and a sideways parentheses we associate it with a face.  
    • Quang Chu
       
      I think this is a very interesting article. This article reminds me of the story about a biologist and a businessman. They are walking together. Suddenly, the biologist hears the sound of an extremely rare insect that he hes been looking for a long time. The businessman does not hear anything. Later, the businessman hears a sound of a quarter just hits the ground. And of course, the biologist does not hear it. So i think it is very similar to this article because people can find things that they are interested in easier than things that they never want. By getting interested in something, the brain or our mind will create like a pattern inside, and it keeps telling and seeking from everything around us that might be related of what we are looking for or what we are interested in. 
    • Kevin Olive
       
      What it really comes down to is how the brain wants to interpret in coming information. For example, if you are a businessman you'll hear quarters or as in the article if you are a paranormalist you will hear dead people talking to you through the radio. How you interpret information is based according to your personality.
  • belief may be held when the cost (c) of doing so is less than the probability (p) of the benefit (b)
    • Amanda Garcia
       
      I couldn't comment on the highlight under this, but that's exactly what I thought of when I read this, Pascal's wager. It is true, if the cost of believing something is comparably better than not believing it and risking the consequences that you may be wrong, regardless of whether it is true or not, it may be advantageous to us that we've evolved this way. 
    • jackmcfarland12
       
      I really like this point. We are socialized at a young age to see things certain ways. Like a kid born and raised in feudal Japan would be a lot different that a kid born today in Britain. Seeing these patterns we are also trained at a primordial level to interpret them independent from what we are taught. Being educated by nature and society are two different things that come together to make our reality.
    • Kim H
       
      "pattern-recognition machines": I'm pretty sure we can all think of times when we've heard our named called out somewhere, but really someone just said something that sounded similar to our names. Our brains are constantly on alert, trying to make sense of the world around us. We feel comfortable with things we know, and so we try to fit new experiences into what we already know. This works like schemas. 
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    I agree with Sarah because yes it was already a predator you are more inclined to think its a predator because thats all you've known it as.
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    I like the predator example and feel it helped my understand the article better. How we see something and how we relate it to ourselves such as the Virgin Mary is very important. I also feel the cost is less than the chance of missing out in the long run.
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    I find this information very interesting: Patternicity," or the tendency to find meaningful patterns in meaningless noise. It is also an error in cognition. Natural selection will favor patternicity. There are two types, or a false or a positive, believing something is real when it is not and believing something is real when it is. Our brains are belief engines: evolved pattern-recognition machines that connect the dots and create meaning out of the patterns that we think we see in nature.
Tyler Schnorf

Wired 11.09: PowerPoint Is Evil - 3 views

  • Visual reasoning usually works more effectively when relevant information is shown side by side.
    • nsamuelian
       
      This made me think about the Chart Wars clip we watched. In that clip, we concluded that visuals are more effective to get your point across rather than words, but this article is saying that no matter how creative and appealing your visuals are, the audience will be bored if you haven't introduced an interesting topic for them. I think they both make sense, but personally I'm not too sure which one i agree with more.
    • Felecia Russell
       
      Well, yes because there is a connection. A graph with words makes more sense together than separate. Words by itself is considered boring. Picture by themselves are lacking content. So, images and words together would be better for listeners. This article does suggest that the importance of words will not be good enough without visuals, and vice versa, but I disagree. I think people gravitate more towards visuals by themselves. However, I do think that for information to make sense, visual reasoning is more effective when relevant information is presented as well.
    • Tavish Dunn
       
      The Chart Wars clip does have some connection to this. Images can carry a powerful message, but without relevant words to explain the image, people can easily interpret the visual incorrectly. Words give context to an image, although the image itself is primarily what causes an emotional response. Relevant information can also give the sense that the issue expands beyond the single instance shown in one image. I think that visuals cause people to think about an issue while the relevant information gives a clearer understanding and focus.
    • Ryan Brown
       
      In today's society the ability to use images affects people every moment. That ad, the commerical on tv, the poster on the wall etc. How visually striking are those images for the unadopted pets with the sarah mclaughlin song or the starving children in africa. There are reasons they show you photos to things like that, to make an impact and emotional connection. Everyone has a weakness for imagery and it truly just depends on the depictions being made.
    • Valencia Hamilto
       
      I believe that powerpoint presentations are effective when visuals are present because it gives the audience a better undersanding of the information being presented.However some powerpoints can be boring like Tufte said in the article "Thus PowerPoint presentations too often resemble a school play -very loud, very slow, and very simple." For powerpoints it depends on the presenter because if the presenter is not engaging and very vague the presentationn will indeed feel like a school play and the audience wont truly benefit from it.
    • Kaitlyn Guilbeaux
       
      I believe that PowerPoint presentations are for the most part effective and good. There are many instances when PowerPoints seem ineffective, and that is because the presenter utilizing the slideshow doesn't know how to create an effective presentation. That is why small children are being taught how to use the programs in elementary schools. If we all know how to make a good slideshow, they will always be effective learning tools. PowerPoints are beneficial, when they are done well, because many people thrive when they can look at a visual that represents what they are learning about. From this article, I have gotten a vibe that the author believes that slideshow presentations are made to stand alone. That is something I almost never see. A presenter uses a slideshow as an aid to accompany something that they are speaking about. If a presenter did not say anything and just made his/her audience look at slide after slide, of course it would be boring and ineffective! That is not how slideshows are meant to be used.
    • Matt Nolan
       
      I feel like a PowerPoint presentation is a thing of the past, there are so many new ways to get information across to people. When someone gives a presentation with just a bunch of info some people will understand it ,but others will not feel engaged. Instead of someone just trying to get a bunch of information across to people with 40 slides of info in a PowerPoint they are not going to feel engaged, they are not going to want to listen and they will not think any of the information is important to their lives. There are so many new ways data is presented and when people are learning they need to feel engaged to the material they are being presented.
    • John Buchanan
       
      I feel like I should bring up an idea that I have seen used before called a Pecha Kucha. Its a twenty-slide PowerPoint presentation that is just made up of pictures, with NO text. Each slide is only allowed to be up on the screen for twenty seconds before the next one comes up. This sort of presentation is conducive to preventing "information overload" and makes it easier for the audience to follow along.
    • magen sanders
       
      especially in Dr. Marichal's class. the difference is that most poeple dont know how to use them. most people even teachers put too much infor on the powerpoint for a student to take note on or process. there is a technique to making a useful and productive powerpoint most dont know about
    • Jonathan Omokawa
       
      I have to agree with Magen. In class we use the powerpoints but minimally. We know that taking notes on the slides presented would be less than useless. Its sad that the majority of Profs use the Powerpoint to teach everything. Every single subject that I have taken in college either at CLU, UCR or at Berkley (just the schools that I've either sat in class or taken classes) have all used Powerpoints and each one, I've fallen asleep at least once because its so boring. I think thats what Tufte is getting at. Its a boring way to teach therefore ineffective.
    • Taylor Rofinot
       
      Not sure that I can agree with this. although powerpoint doesn't help all the time it isn't a clear line of stupidity and can still help relay statistical information
    • Sarah McKee
       
      A table or graph can be very useful to have up as a point of reference and so people can see the data for themselves and if there are multiple tables or graphs it would be useful to use a powerpoint. I don't think powerpoint is what is stupid, it's the way people use it. Used properly it can be a useful tool.
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  • At a minimum, a presentation format should do no harm. Yet the PowerPoint style routinely disrupts, dominates, and trivializes content.
    • Melissa Moreno
       
      I feel as if whether we are making a power point or taking notes off one, more often than not a power point is overwhelming and chalk full of information for us to read and write down instead of listening to what is really being said. That isn't to say that I believe power points are bad and stupid, I simply mean to suggest that individuals do not use the power point in the most effective manner which I think is more accurate than just dismissing the program and its value all together.
  • Particularly disturbing is the adoption of the PowerPoint cognitive style in our schools. Rather than learning to write a report using sentences, children are being taught how to formulate client pitches and infomercials. Elementary school PowerPoint exercises (as seen in teacher guides and in student work posted on the Internet) typically consist of 10 to 20 words and a piece of clip art on each slide in a presentation of three to six slides -a total of perhaps 80 words (15 seconds of silent reading) for a week of work. Students would be better off if the schools simply closed down on those days and everyone went to the Exploratorium or wrote an illustrated essay explaining something.
    • Gaby Ramirez Castorena
       
      I agree with the last couple sentences of this paragraph in specific. I honestly think that the amount of information we retain from a powerpoint presentation is little to none. We seriously would be better off going to an educational place or such- we would be learning more in comparison.
    • Mark Drach-Meinel
       
      I fondly remember the days that we actually left the school building to go to places like museums to learn. What ever happened to those days? I feel that these are very important resources that a school can use but choose not to. The best we could get nowadays is to read a power-point about what we would see at the museum.
    • Mike Frieda
       
      I'm not fond of the author's false dichotomy that we are teaching power-point message based language in place of decent literary writing. Also, I hold the author's assertions that teaching children the boring methods of working in the business world as "pointless" as being misguided. True, school is much more than preparing children for the workplace - but it is a definitive pillar of education to prepare them for the tasks they will encounter outside of school in order to allow for a functioning society (a working polis). 
    • sahalfarah
       
      Mike is exactly right. School is a lot more than just teaching kids reading, writing and arithmetic. They will learn the foundations of society by working hard. 
  • Audience boredom is usually a content failure, not a decoration failure.
    • Gaby Ramirez Castorena
       
      ...or lack of interest as well
    • Flavio Guzman
       
      I think that no matter what the topic, if the presenter is able to present the information in a way that makes it interesting to the audience there is no problem. But the presenter must use his style of presentation to present the information instead of just relying on the powerpoint to do do the presentation for him/her.
  • The practical conclusions are clear. PowerPoint is a competent slide manager and projector. But rather than supplementing a presentation, it has become a substitute for it.
    • Nancy Camarillo
       
      More and more we see that some, if not most, classes make it a point to incorporate PowerPoint presentation into the requirements. As much as these presentations are painted in a position light (and this is not to say I am against PowerPoint) they lack the proper execution. When professors add all the information they are going to use in lecture, you see a good amount of students feel that there time is being wasted as all the information needed and being used in lecture is on this presentation, one that they can easily print. We become disengaged when all the information is given to us, yet we have to sit there and pretend we are interested. Can PowerPoints be useful, yes of course they can. But for the most part, they tend to contain too much information, and we tend to get lost in the sea of data.
    • Mike Frieda
       
      The author again assumes that everyone misuses power-point which is far from the case. 
  • Presentations largely stand or fall on the quality, relevance, and integrity of the content.
    • Eric Arbuckle
       
      Power points largely rely on these factors as well. To any successful presentation there is quality, relevance, and integrity; however, power point allows for creativity and a use of marketing skills to HELP capture the attention of the audience. As seen in the pictures above, Tufte shows a power point and attempts to use it as a "chaotic and incoherent" mess. I find it very interesting that Tufte actually uses a horrible power point and expects the readers of his article to believe it signifies ALL power points. I do agree with him on one issue though, power points being used for young children in grade school is a bit early because young children need to begin with the basic understanding of how to comprehend and truly absorb what they read rather than relying on pictures to create their own narrative.
    • Jacqueline Ramsay
       
      Power point presentations may cause a distraction from the actual content of a presentation, with all the obnoxious graphic and fonts that take over the screen. But students should be taught how to incorporate power point into their presentations because with today's technological advances, power points are very commonly required. The important thing is to continue teaching the importance of public speaking and essay writing, but also ensuring their knowledge of power point as an additional tool. Power points can also draw the audience in by using few words, making sure not to overwhelm but simply introduce the important information. Giving the audience something to look at other than the presenter also gives your eyes options, keeping you more focused. However, when teachers use power points for their class lectures and fill them with notes that we are expected to know, students spend too much time trying to copy the notes rather than focus on the actual thoughts and words of the professor. I think the more simple the better.
    • Tyler Coville
       
      Overall I agree that powerpoints are poorly implemented, yet I think they can be used properly to improve a presentation. I think the major problems with usage today is. -Too much content/Blocks of text -Distraction (especially in classes where everyone is so busy copying the slides down they mis important information) -Presenter relies on the information to remember what the presentation is on (basically being unprepared) -Related to last one losing track of the topic and jumping around to different slides to figure out what you wanted to talk about
  • Slideware may help speakers outline their talks, but convenience for the speaker can be punishing to both content and audience.
    • Eric Henderson
       
      This statement is very ture because i believe that powerpoints, while sometimes necessary, are really overused. They should be used for supplementary ideas rather than the centerpiece for the speaker's whole presentation, as that is detrimental to everyone.
    • Tyler Schnorf
       
      Powerpoints are definately too overused in todays society. They should be used as guides to help learning not to convey a specific message to an audience.
  • betraying an attitude of commercialism that turns everything into a sales pitch.
    • Mike Frieda
       
      I feel that while using imagery and data might in away betray the content of the talk - I believe it is the way in which the presentation is done that truly decides this. One could use the power point simply as a reference to statements made by the speaker, or an outline as the author mentioned. I feel that saying all "slideware" somehow is a problem is kind of hyperbolic.
  • The standard PowerPoint presentation elevates format over content, betraying an attitude of commercialism that turns everything into a sales pitch.
    • Joette Carini
       
      (I just realized that I posted this as private... but I posted it on time I swear!) I definitely agree with this point. I remember when we used to start using Powerpoints in school back in the elementary days, and it was the plain black and white, and it focused more on information than format. However, starting in high school, it started to be more about whether or not the presentation was aesthetically pleasing. I never would have connected it to commercialism, but now that Tufte has brought it up, they do have striking similarities. 
  • Everything is wrong with these smarmy, incoherent graphs: the encoded legends, the meaningless color, the logo-type branding. They are uncomparative, indifferent to content and evidence, and so data-starved as to be almost pointless.
    • jeffrey hernandez
       
      These graphs aren't coherent nor meaningless, most people are visual learners and looking at these graphs with color and labels helps it to become very clear for someone to understand and remember. 
  • Graphics Press A traditional table: rich, informative, clear. BAD Graphics Press PowerPoint chartjunk: smarmy, chaotic, incoherent. Consider an important and intriguing table of survival rates for those with cancer relative to those without cancer for the same time period. Some 196 numbers and 57 words describe surviv
  • Imagine a widely used and expensive prescription drug that promised to make us beautiful but didn't. Instead the drug had frequent, serious side effects: It induced stupidity, turned everyone into bores, wasted time, and degraded the quality and credibility of communication.
    • Luke Gheta
       
      Edward Tufte is crazy. Edward states " Imagine a widely used and expensive prescription drug that promised to make us beautiful but didn't. Instead the drug had frequent, serious side effects: It induced stupidity, turned everyone into bores, wasted time, and degraded the quality and credibility of communication". What! First Edward, this is the 21st century which requires humans to use magic that can connect us to the internet. It's called a computer, and by the way, I have one. Within my computer, is a Voodoo based software called PowerPoint, which has significantly degraded my English capabilities and caused the education system to plummet. I will know connect the dots and complete my response. "Crazy" is a strong work, lets say "powerful", so I can keep up with the theme of "PowerPoint". I just called Edward Turte crazy, well is he. Probably not, but I can use derogatory words in hopes of publishing an article in Wired magazine. So Edward, you should restate your phrase, "PowerPoint is Evil". First, PowerPoint and slide presentations gain student attention through means of video, graphics, music and pictures. Second, Professors can share lectures and presentations by sharing flash drive. Third, the benefit of using power-point create creativity within students and is a useful tool in the job market, because the majority of business have used PowerPoint.
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    I think PowerPoint slides are really useful for getting some ideas in school to stick into the students' heads. If the teachers always had to draw diagrams in their explanations, that eats up some valuable class time and they might not be as clear as one which is made on a computer (and very few people have handwriting as neat as a computer's). If the presentations are actually good, they don't look like advertisements, but also have important content, whether it is explained verbally or visually.
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    I would definitely have to say that power points are very useful, but as a second addition. Power points are a great way to guide a lecture or discussion, however not all the infomation can be provided on it. Lecture is important so that you are forced to listen and think about what is being said rather than just reading it. Power points become problematic because at times they are relied on to heavily and they can cause some one to be distracted from the main point that is trying to be made.
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    I believe PowerPoint is a very effective tool in the classroom! As a visual learner I benefit from relating facts and information with a slide or picture. For example in Dr.Marichal's class I may remember the image of the young and old lady picture when I'm having to answer a question about perception. Also, a PowerPoint helps the professor stay on track and gives them a great tool to keep organized and prepared. Some professors do rely on PowerPoints too much, but if you use them as a source of an outline for lecture of discussion it serves as a very useful and technologically savvy resource!
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    Personally, I think power points are a great way to help get someone's point across. Some power points are boring because of the way they are formatted or simply because the person presenting is boring. When information that is relevant to the subject is put up on the big screen and it is outlined in bullet points it gets right to the point and tells you this is what you need to know. But I'll admit when someone does have a weird chart like the example that looked just like a Picasso painting it does get confusing and does not have a lot of valuable information.
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    I feel visual reasoning really is more effective because I can see what I am being told. The information means alot more wen it is presented to me visually. I enjoy classes where the teachers use powerpoints because I can actually take notes and process what I am being told. In my opinion powerpoints really help present information in a different way and make information more interesting.
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    I do think that the author makes a good point. I find that most often when I am confronted with a power point presentation that I am in for a boring presentation. It is hard to say definitively if this is because of the presenter and it would have been a boring presentation anyway or if it is the way it was presented through power point. My first impulse is to surmise that the real problem is with the people giving presentation and not power point itself because I can think of a number of classes specifically *cough*Dr Marichell*cough* that I find engaging, helpful, and entertaining. Maybe this is related to what the author is getting at. Perhaps power point is becoming a crutch and helping people learn a short cut method to an "assignment completing" presentation. Over all I think that if the speaker is engaging and simply uses the power point to add to their presentation and does not simply read the slides to the listener that it can be a valuable tool.
shane paulson

Questions on Rosling's New Insights On Poverty - 20 views

I agree with Sharena in a way that culture, while important, is not necessary for growth in development and to rise out of poverty. Naturally, it seems as if economic growth would be at the top of...

Kristi Kniest

A Payoff Out of Poverty? - NYTimes.com - 0 views

  • Lewis singled out elements of a culture that, he argued, keep those socialized in it mired in poverty: machismo, authoritarianism, marginalization from organized civic life, high rates of abandonment of illegitimate children, alcoholism, disdain for education, fatalism, passivity, inability to defer gratification and a time orientation fixed firmly on the present
    • Sarah Marroquin
       
      It seems to be that these factors are the cause of poverty, but there are other factors that come into play such as Hurricane Sandy. I don't think its entirely fair to say that only the Mexican culture experiences poverty because of those factors. I think these factors are universal. Machism would just be a guy thinking he is better than every one else.
    • Sean McCarthy
       
      For one thing, this was written near 4 years before Sandy, but that wasn't your main point. Your main point is that these obvious societal problems aren't what are causing poverty in this area, which is arguably quite false. Many countries have society-wide problems, America certainly being one (getting worse by the day), but this culture is one that is spiraling towards even worse lows than they've had, unless the people look to each one of themselves to better society one person at a time.
    • Karina DaSilva
       
      Never underestimate the impact social factors have on, well, society. Things such as machismo and marginalization have a definite effect on how people operate. 
  • Banfield argued that poverty was a product of the poor’s lack of future-orientation
    • Sean McCarthy
       
      Interesting point. I'd probably agree with this.
    • Tori Mayeda
       
      I think i can agree with this statement
    • Carissa Faulk
       
      I don't think that this is necessarily true in every case. While in some cases it may be true, I think it would be dangerous to try to make generalizations like this.
  • and that nothing government could feasibly do would change that orientation or stop parents from transmitting it to their children.
    • Tori Mayeda
       
      Many of the things i want in life are because i have grown up with them. My parents have always been role models for me. I think i would want the same lifestyle as my parents have even if it wasn't the best because it is something comfortable, something i would have grown up with. 
    • Devin Milligan
       
      i dissagree with this statement. I think that just because someone grows up in a household with poverty it diesnt mean that they will live that way in their life. Maybe the chances of living in poverty are greater but i think that if someone works hard enough for it they can have whatever life they want.
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    • Kristi Kniest
       
      The culture of poverty, in my opinion, is anything but a defense mechanism.  A lot of people who live with poverty do not have the choice or the ability to get themselves out of it. Most people do not choose to live in poverty. People especially do not choose to live in poverty to purposely show inequality.
Caitlin Scott

http://www2.econ.iastate.edu/classes/econ362/hallam/readings/rawl_justice.pdf - 2 views

    • georgenasr
       
      So Rawl believes that their will be inequalities socially and economically in a just society, but everyone deserves to have a chance to climb socially/economically? Or does everyone have the same advantage? How is this different from Nozick?
    • Cameron Schroeck
       
      True, everyone deserves a chance to climb the social and economic ladders, and I would have to agree with Rawl. By contrast, Nozick's belief in natural hierarchy and everyone is sorted into social classes. However, I would have to agree with Rawl. I think that those who are in the lower ranks of the economic and social scale should be given a degree of extra attention. I believe this gives more equality as it helps to better incorporate the lower classes to a higher standard of living that everyone should be entitled to.
    • Karina DaSilva
       
      I have to agree.  Of course, the "natural hierarchy", I think, is just another way of pointing out how often we as humans are biased.  At some point in time, there is always a group (be it a marginalized sex, ethnicity, or orientation) that is discriminated, whether blatantly or discreetly.  Of course this is not to say that equality should stop being pursued, that is something that people should always strive for. 
    • Kevin Olive
       
      I think that as humans we will always create a some kind of hierarchy. We all would like to believe that we are all created equal but in most cases this is not true. Although this does not mean that we can not work to close any gaps between in society.
    • Caitlin Scott
       
      I feel like he is saying that we cannot live in a society where "we can have it all." We must give up certain fundamental rights because not everyone is equal, socially or economically, and that's not fair.  Has this guy never heard of the expression, life isn't fair?  I am all for people helping out the underprivileged, but how about letting it be just that? People helping people, not some corrupt holier than thou politician in big government deciding what is "fair" and what is an equal distribution of rights and money. This ideology is setting people up to look like villains if they disagree with it. 
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    It was really hard to fully understand what the authors two main points are. I interpret the statement "each person is to have an equal right to the most extensive basic liberty compatible with a similar liberty for others" as the author basically saying that everyone deserves the same rights and opportunities as others. His second point, "social and economic inequalities are to be arranged so that they are both a) reasonably expected to be to everyone's advantage; and b) attached to positions and offices open to all" is very hard to understand the point he is trying to make, or even what his line of thought is for this. If mentioning these two main points was suppose to be some sort of thesis or preview of what the rest of the article is about then it did a very poor job of making it clear and concise.
Flavio Guzman

Sample Chapter for Fung, A.: Empowered Participation: Reinventing Urban Democracy. - 2 views

  • Voices of minority, less educated, diffident, or culturally subordinate participants are often drowned out by those who are wealthy, confident, accustomed to management, or otherwise privileged.
    • Felecia Russell
       
      This is true. Monorities are always left out of decision making. Those in power think that minorities do not know how to think critically and do not understand decision process. However, is it all about how smart we are? Or is it about making the best decision for the betterment of the polis? Minorities and people with low income bring something else to the table that the affluents dont. Diversity of ideas and polices is the best way for empowered participation to acually be empowered. Similar to the Hobson's choice- a list of options will already determine how people think and will make an option the only reaasonable possibility.
    • anonymous
       
      Certainly the minority has good ideas. If they are driven enough and generate support, they can get these ideas across. After all, it is said that seeming like the underdog is good for generating support in public policy. It is not all about how smart minorities are, it's about how their strategies work for gaining a strong influence.
    • Matt Nolan
       
      This statement is true, I feel that minorities are left out because communities and schools want to keep traditions how they have been for hundreds of years. Minorities are left out of decision making because many times other minorities feel they are not receiving the same amount of attention and it becomes a problem for the whole community. Minorities and people with low-income bring new ideas and traditions to the community that are good for the community. What they are doing at Harembee Academy is good for the community and it shows how minorities are gaining power and showing the community that they are just as important as the people that have held the same traditions for years. Our communities need to be well-diversed and adopt the some of the same ideas from the community surrounded by Harembee.
    • Sarah McKee
       
      Also, when excluding the minorities a lot of diversity is taken out of decision making and I found what we discussed in class, about how a diverse group will come to a better solution to a problem than a group of smart people from similar backgrounds and groups.
    • Jonathan Omokawa
       
      I agree with the example that we talked about in class. There is also a reference to Plato in this. In "The Republic" Plato says that tradesmen who are good at a trade think that because they are good at one thing, they are good at everything.
    • Xochitl Cruz
       
      I agree that this statement is true. Generally those that are at the end of the pyramid do not get much say. People who have wealth, power, and an education tend to do very well, and their say if heard by others. Money has a lot of say in the matter and those who do not have much access to it, will suffer the inevitable consequences.
    • Kiera Murphy
       
      I agree with the above quote and statements. Citizens are driven by the idea to live the "American Dream." People strive for success, and education and over everything making a lot of money. We are a economically driven society so we tend to associate power with money so naturally minority groups are factored out in terms of having a voice. I believe that it's crucial for these minority groups to have a voice because in reality they are effected by policy decisions just as much as anyone else, if not more. They should be granted the same benefits as a wealthier member of society when it comes to the generation and implementation of laws.The government should not decide who benefits from policy...policy should benefit the polis as a whole.
    • Valencia Hamilto
       
      I agree with this statement. Minorities often get looked down upon when they bring an idea forth by the more privileged because they feel as if the minorities don't know anything because of their background. However just like we discussed in class it is the diversity of ideas put together that makes the best decisions.
    • Ryan Brown
       
      I can see why he says that in the piece, the biggest motivator to listen is money. Look at presidential candidates as much as they need the first person he talks about to vote for them, they need to money, power and influence to run, they all fall under that category. Education is also an unbias world so someone who is less educated has taken it upon themselves to end up like that. Minorities yes this is true, it is extremely unfortunate for that to happen and it should never but is prejudice able to be solved in our country? we can only hope.
    • chelseaedgerley
       
      dont really feel like this statement is true, with our president there voices are definitely heard.
    • Alexa Datuin
       
      I do agree with the fact that money and wealth is a huge part in being successful and having a voice in the community, or world. But the whole "culture" issue has made progress. I am not saying that everyone is treated equally, because there are a lot of discrimination still going on. Like what Chelsea has said. with our president, there is progress, but for the most part there is still some unfairness going on.
    • Kelsey Fratello
       
      I agree that this statement is true. The voices of minority are considered less important when they shouldn't be. It's only fair when deciding on a solution to consider everyone's opinions. if you do this, then the solution will most likely be a better one because more voices are being listened to and more ideas are being bounced off each other to form the best possible solutions. Everyone is affected by these decisions and the Polis as a whole should get the benefits. I also agree that when you choose to ignore the voices of the minority, there is a diversity factor that is being taken out. I am not saying that the minority is going to have all the right answers, but I feel that everyone has a right to speak and be heard. These voices should at least be taken into consideration when making decisions that are going to affect them as well.
    • Flavio Guzman
       
      I feel that this is sadly the truth in most of our country. Their are the few instances when these vocies are heard but never on a national level. Just ebcuase someone is in a less privilaged position doesn't mean they don't know whats best for them. In order for government to really work everyone must be heard.
  • When the self-regulation of local groups through deliberative norms and procedures fails, however, centralized methods should detect these outcomes and attempt to correct them.
    • Tavish Dunn
       
      This is the strength of how accountable autonomy is supposed to function. It balances a highly centralized rule where many people or groups do not have their interests heard and decentralized rule where small factions can easily gain control and ignore the interests of others. Finding a right balance between the two extremes would decrease their respective weaknesses, allowing more representation of people's interests.
    • Tyler Coville
       
      I agree with tavish that the goal should be finding a middle position where we can take advantage of the pros of both while minimizing the cons.
  • In the months and years ahead, the parents and personnel of Harambee would attempt to advance their historical and cultural commitment to scholastic achievement through a variety of programs that included technology labs, prekindergarten programs, physical plant upgrading, curriculum changes, and a host of instructional innovations.
    • Tyler Coville
       
      I think this is a good example for other underprivileged areas to take a more active role in their communities vs simply moving out as they gain more wealth or demanding the money take more money from other areas. More can be achieved by working together and fixing what is wrong in their areas.
    • Mark Drach-Meinel
       
      I agree with Tyler and I think it's great that instead of blaming others for their poor initial condition, they do something about it. I see a lot of people complain about their current status but rarely do I see any sort of follow-up in trying to improve the situation. I'm glad to see that there are at least some people who do try to improve.
    • khampton44
       
      I think the fact that the community saw something they wanted to change and went ahead and made it their own project is really great. We do not see that very often anymore so the fact that someone did does make me feel better about how this could happen in another community that wants the same results.
    • chelseaedgerley
       
      Agreed. I feel like its a big pity party, times are hard no doubt but I see more people giving up than trying to make their neighborhoods and community's better. This is great that they did what they had to.
    • Sarah Marroquin
       
      I think it is a good thing that the changed the name to give the school more value to both the community and faculty however, it doesn't change or help the school with money issues or test scores.
    • Justina Cooney
       
      This is a great idea. I think that one thing that would help this country is tailoring curriculum to what would actually make students who stop after high school have a better chance at a successful career. I read a book once that explored why schools in inner cities are so unsuccessful and basically the reason he argued is that the information and system is so irrelavent to their lives that the students do not care to invest themselves. Maybe if our education system wasn't such a one size fits all system, and if our communities would fit schools to what would make their kids successful we would be able to make many more productive citzens for the world as it is today.
    • Karina DaSilva
       
      exactly. Much of what is taught in schools (especially history) is definitely tailored towards a white males. By adjusting the curriculum, you would definitely see more response from other groups.
    • Brandon Weger
       
      I think that it is amazing that they decided amongst themselves that they were going to overhaul a school, and bring it up to par with its practices and teachings to match the name that they gave it. It is extraordinary when a group of people can selflessly come together and achieve such a feat.
    • madison taylor
       
      I feel like it was the ambition of the people in the community that caused such a big change. This just shows that they didn't need to live in a rich neighborhood to feel safe. The citizens themselves do have an input on the change of their situation. The power of people coming together is amazing.
    • Sean McCarthy
       
      I completely agree with Justina. School systems often pressure schools to just produce high test scores, when in fact the thing that will help more people (especially in the inner city) is taking into account the curriculum that will best prepare the kids for a good future. This is where these decisions should be made, by local communities, as opposed to central planning by a federal government that has never lived in a place even similar to this.
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    • magen sanders
       
      i am confused myself on why these twons were different than other unfortunate neighborhoods with school and crime issues. i decided it was the passion of the citizins of this town that took it to another level and could make the change that they wanted in order to benefit everyone.
  • In the months and years ahead, the parents and personnel of Harambee would attempt to advance their historical and cultural commitment to scholastic achievement through a variety of programs that included technology labs, prekindergarten programs, physical plant upgrading, curriculum changes, and a host of instructional innovations.
    • nsamuelian
       
      Compared to other communities, tis community is workig together to better their situation rather than just their personal situations. By doing this, the whole community benefits rather than just one or two families. 
  • More ambitiously, residents sought physical improvements to make the park more useful, attractive, and inviting to legitimate users in the hope that they might drive out illegal ones.
    • Eric Henderson
       
      I'm not really sure how changing the makeup of the park will drive "illegal users" out because "illegal users" normally would carry out their activities during times in which there were no other people around to judge and or prevent their behavior. Changing the park makeup would probably just change the timeslots that illegal users were at that specific park.
    • Mike Frieda
       
      I agree but I feel that if a public place such as this one becomes commonly used for legitimate purposes it does have an dissuading affect on criminal use. A criminal is less likely to do the drug deals in the park if they know there a high chance that someone will see them, and if the park is used all day with occasional users at night, it makes it difficult to find a "timeslot" where the location is secure. I'm not fully disagreeing with you, but I am saying there is more to it. 
    • Alexis Schomer
       
      I agree. I also think that this example connects to the one before in the sense that the community is taking the initiative to fix issues they feel strongly about and make it a better, safer place.  I think it is admirable how the residents cooperate with the police department and I think it will definitely drive the crime rate in the park down 
  • Finally, accountable autonomy potentially diffuses successful innovations quite rapidly to enable a kind of system-wide learning
  • In the crucial areas of public education and policing, the CPS and CPD reforms advance the central tenet of participatory democracy: that people should have substantial and equal opportunities to participate directly in decisions that affect them
    • Lauren Dudley
       
      I find this very interesting as I think that this ia a good strategy. The strategy allows ordinary people voice their opinions about certain situations like the park or the school situations and actually know that their voices and opinions were heard. Where in other cities, when you call or say something and its not in a meeting form to be heard and discussed you may feel like it is just brushed under the rug. I think this is a great strategy like a town meeting in a way as it really is about helping the people and what affects them.
  • who actually participates? As with any scheme for civic engagement and direct democracy, success depend upon the character of actual participation.
    • Erick Sandoval
       
      When discussing all the great things a participatory democracy has to offer, we forget that not all neighborhoods are like Harambee and Lakeview. In other neighborhoods it is almost certain that not everybody is going to participate. The results are going to depend on those who do participate, but the results will affect the community as a whole. 
  • Liabilities such as parochialism, lack of expertise, and resource constraints may impair the problem-solving and administrative capabilities of local organizations relative to centralized forms.
    • Cameron Schroeck
       
      Unfortunately, these liabilities inhibit real progress of organizations. It does not take very many of these bureaucratic mazes, (A.K.A. liabilities) to severely override the possible accomplishments of an organization's goal.
    • Nicolas Bianchi
       
      I agree and unfortunately its true.  A lot more can get done without these "mazes" as you said.  We can be so progressive at times but at others, its near impossible to progress
  • Changing a name, of course, cannot itself raise test scores, make classes more orderly, build classrooms, or increase children's readiness for middle and high school
    • elliott reyes
       
      by changing a name of the school offcourse your not going to change the way the students test score will go up, but it will sure motivate kids especially since the majority are black and they name the school HARAMBEE. AND SINCE PEOPLE WERE trying to attempt to advance their programs.
    • Kevin Olive
       
      It is true that changing the name will not automatically raise test scores or increase a child's readiness for future instruction. However it will help just a little. I agree with Elliott maybe a simple name change will not only motivate the kids a little more but perhaps the teachers as well.
    • Caitlin Fransen
       
      I agree, with both the staments above along with what the article says about not improving test score etc by simply just changing the name. But it may result in further motivation that in time will benefit and help improve test scores. It is just not going to happen right away, it will take some time. 
  • These initiatives transformed the CPD and the CPS into the most participatory-democratic public organizations of their kind in any large American city.
    • Tatiana McCuaig
       
      Another reason why I feel that the CPD and CPS were so praised was because of their willingness to listen to their constituents. The people of the cities voiced their concerns, and by having the town government listen, they were able to accomplish progress and set a tone and standard for their schools and neighborhoods. 
    • Benjamin Chavez II
       
      I agree with Tatiana; in addition to that, every action was for the most part efficient because there was no opposing force, (drug dealers, etc.) backing up there case (needing the money or something).
    • Kayla Sawoski
       
      This relates a lot to the Interest's chapter of what Stone is trying to say. We all can come together with our one specific interest and make an impact. The staff and community in this case, wanted the school to improve so they came up with strategies to make this  effective. Working together helped get their message out for people to see.  
    • Devon Meredith
       
      It is obviously a more effective way to get things done by forming group as more people can not only get things done faster, but also get the word out there quicker. The staff and community have set two solid components out to help solve their problem it just takes everyone collaboration to make it happen.
    • Caitlin Scott
       
      I think the best way to teach is to reach the students on a level they will understand.  If changing the curriculum to gear it towards issues that affect the students then I believe they will be more receptive to the learning environment, this would in turn increase the academics of a school.
    • mgarciag
       
      It makes sense that the group would be more effective at watching the park than the individual.  along wit hthe reasons that Devon stated there are more eyes on the same park. The more people watching the park, the more chance there is for someone to spot illicit or sketch activity.  These steps should be implemented in more places where there is a high level of illegal activity going on.
  • monthly open meetings with residents to discuss neighborhood safety issues. In these sessions, police and residents jointly select priority public safety issues and develop wide-ranging strategies to address them.
    • Brandon White
       
      The idea of public meetings with police officers is an interesting ones. In Los Angeles, the only real "public" meetings are ones where officers give press conferences and then take a few questions after they are done speaking. But the idea of a dialogue between the police and normal citizens in a respectful matter is one that I think might work. People can talk about the issues they see relevant, and police can defend or re-invent themselves to meet some of the needs of the citizens (of course, not completely meet them; there will always be issues). I would love to see such a program used with the LAPD here in California. 
    • Courtney Sabile
       
      I agree with what Brandon was saying. Having personal meetings between regular citizens and officers would be very effective. Connective discussions should be held over press conferences. That would bring out more of what the citizens have to say in order for the police to enforce a more secure, trustworthy community.
  • When factions inside a group dominate or paralyze planning processes, outsiders can step in to break through jams and thus enable the group to better accomplish its ends. When the indolence of these groups results in subpar performance, external interventions and sanctions can transform license to innovation and problem-solving.
    • Hayley Jensen
       
      This is exactly the idea of democracy, but I think the application falls short in that the "external interventions" view the groups as inhibitors to their plans instead of relying on these groups for guidance in creating the best policies. Elected officials of course want to please their constituents, but I feel the political field is jading when it comes to what is truly important. Instead of the importance of this democracy being fairness and creating the best for the people, the importance lies within who can play the best game and stay in power. The power triangle is upside down with the people having the littlest power in regards to being able to implement what is best for their community.
  • These community-policing arrangements form the institutional structure through which residents, police, city officials, and non-profit organizations rebuilt Lakeville's dilapidated park. Beat meetings created new spaces in which police and residents could together and develop a range of solutions addressing various problems at the park.
    • Tori Mayeda
       
      i think it's great that everyone came together to help rebuild the park. I'm not sure if the police and residents would be able to come to an agreement about solutions for the park. 
    • Meghann Ellis
       
      I agree with Tori that it is great that everyone is coming together for the sole purpose of the park but in reality not everyone is going to get together.  Here each person participating has a different perspective in which they view the park itself. The policemen and the residents would have different views and so would the non-profit organizations. In the end they all aren't going to come to one conclusion and to agree on everything which can cause problems.
    • Carissa Faulk
       
      I think the examples of Harambee middle school and the community park are excellent illustrations of how, when you bring government down to more local levels, more is able to be accomplished. Obviously, this won't work for everything, but for many government actions, the closer the decision is to the people it affects, the more relevant and efficient it will be. Local governments are, in general, in a better position to understand the needs of the citizens in that area. Bringing the citizens in on the decisions and giving them more say in how things are done enables local governments to respond to the people's immediate needs and to take into account the complexities of their unique situation. National and state governments are obviously necessary, but I think that government would be far more efficient if more power was given to local governments and the people they represent.
    • Tori Mayeda
       
      I also agree that it's great to see that they were able to get through the obstacles and improve their school 
    • Phillip Delgado
       
      The remodeling the park was a good idea. The way to beat the gang problem was spot on. They got rid of their privacy, therefor the gang members left because they had to privacy. This would not work in all areas. A gang filled area might just over take the new park, because the people who live there priorities are different.
  • They began with simple measures such as trimming tall trees to make the park's interior visible from the stree
    • jeffrey hernandez
       
      Trimming the trees was a smart and affordable way to help people see what was being done in the park. The criminals in the park probably had no idea the city was trimming the trees so they could see what was going on.  
    • Shannon Wirawan
       
      I also feel like this was a wise decision as Jeffrey said, because it was more of an affordable way to open up the park and have it look more accessible. Plus, this would help the crime rate lessen because crimes seem to occur when less people are around than with more. So, this simple action would prevent criminal activity efficiently.
    • jeffrey hernandez
       
      Trimming the trees was a smart and affordable way to help people see what was being done in the park. The criminals in the park probably had no idea the city was trimming the trees so they could see what was going on.  
    • jeffrey hernandez
       
      Trimming the trees was a smart and affordable way to help people see what was being done in the park. The criminals in the park probably had no idea the city was trimming the trees so they could see what was going on.  
    • Kim H
       
      This really was an ingenious way to combat the criminal activity that was happening. Trimming trees is not only a cost effective way to handle the situation, but it benefits the residents of the area by beautifying the park and lowering the amount of criminal activity. 
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    Minorities from low income areas can have good ideas but getting them started takes a lot more time and effort than the when some powerful people want to do something. If the minority community really wants to get something done then they have to really step up their game and get the word out to the public. Influencing public opinion is the best way for change for a policy or in the community.
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    It seems to me that a lot of effort is made to make sure that the voice of minorities is accounted for. Granted this isn't always straight from the mouths of the minorities in question but consideration is still given. There are a vast many different groups in America that could fall under the "minority" denomination and it is impossible to hear all of them. We often bend over backwards to accommodate some minority while ignoring the interest of the greater whole.
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    This article definately made me stop to think about how good we all have it here in America. Yes, we have our own problems with our education system, but at least we have a solid base of educating our citizens. We complain sometimes on how much of a hassel school is and how inconvienient it is at times, but just think if we were never able to have the opportunity. Our society would be completely different and the government could control us completely.
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    the ones that are poor, don't have that much a stay, but the wealty ones do. It is like the pyramid, the ones on top are the people that have power/wealthy and can afford sending their children in a good environment and school, while at the end of the pyramind, there are the poor ones that struggle enough, just to see their children get a sort of education. Diversity is also a big part of the community, more people that are together will figure out a better solution, while the ones that think they are superior, won't succeed as well as they should of.
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    Minorities have way more influence than people think, especially in California. The California Dream Act is proof that minorities are not only influencial, but productive. They can actually get things done in the world of policy. Yes, not all minorities are as influencial as the ones is California, but they are proof that things can get done as a minority
Felecia Russell

A Payoff Out of Poverty? - NYTimes.com - 1 views

  • why educate someone who is just going to get married?
    • Ryan Brown
       
      Is this a societal/cultural problem or a problem that can be dealt with by the government?
    • Jonathan Omokawa
       
      I don't think a social problem like this can be dealt with government. It seems that only with time does this get solved. Even when women were allowed to vote, it didn't change societies views, its views didn't change until the it became socially acceptable.
    • Felecia Russell
       
      but it became socially acceptable when they got the right to vote. The right to vote add to the level of acceptance. We must accept now because the world is accepting.
    • Matt Nolan
       
      I feel like this question is a thing of the past, the way our society used to be. More and more women are in the work industry and making a living for their families, and with the rising prices in our economy more and more couples will need to have good jobs and it is important that woman have are educated even if they are getting married because of the way our society has progressed.
    • Xochitl Cruz
       
      I think this is more of a cultural problem, and time will change it. Government cannot really do much to help the situation if people have the mentality that one should or will eventually be married. Government can put initiatives, but the people themselves will reject the idea since it has been ingrained probably for generations.
  • When the program began, under the administration of President Ernesto Zedillo, it was called Progresa. Zedillo’s successor, Vicente Fox, changed the name. Five million families are enrolled nationwide — a quarter of the country’s households, including virtually every Mexican family at risk for hunger. Seventy-three of the 134 families in Paso de Coyutla are enrolled today. Oportunidades is now the de facto welfare system in Mexico, and it marks the first time modern Mexico has had an effective anti-poverty program.
    • Ryan Brown
       
      Where do they get the money for this?
  •  
    Although poverty can be seen as an idea changing process. By which can be reversed by changing peoples way of thinking, or by transforming a culture/way of life. It is impossible to completely solve the problem of poverty because it is near impossible to completely de-root a culture. Small changes are possible; therefore, there can be an ease of poverty, but never fully reversed.
Chantelle Cichon

A Payoff Out of Poverty? - NYTimes.com - 0 views

  • the standard left-wing argument that people are poor because of low wages, discrimination and bad schools. But the phrase has essentially become shorthand for the right-wing argument that poverty stems from the limitations of the poor and is largely impervious to outside intervention.
    • Ryan Brown
       
      Is there a right answer anymore? everything comes full circle no matter what we say why do we keep picking sides...People need to get over some of these ideas and look into the society, culture, lifestyles and come up with a real group of reasons before I can accept anything anymore.
    • chelseaedgerley
       
      I guess you could see it from both sides, both reasons add to it. 
  • In Paso de Coyutla, it seemed that the culture of poverty was indeed immutable. Generations after Jesús Sánchez, the lack of interest in education, failure to think about the future, machismo and authoritarianism persisted. There was every reason to think that life would be exactly the same for Solís and Hernández’s four children.
    • Ryan Brown
       
      Problem...problem...problem...if you are in poverty and view society like that...i rest my case...
    • Felecia Russell
       
      How can they think outside of their experiences when they are not exposed to that thinking? On television, the images of success seems so far fetch and the image of those actual people with sucess never looks like the poor.
    • jeffrey hernandez
       
      I agree that they are neglected from the rest of the world. Lacking the the tools to be hopeful for any kind of success. 
  • The program gives the poor cash, but unlike traditional welfare programs, it conditions the receipt of that cash on activities designed to break the culture of poverty and keep the poor from transmitting that culture to their children.
    • Ryan Brown
       
      How effective was this exactly?
    • Mark Drach-Meinel
       
      I've seen those who are poor in Mexico. I am fairly sure that there are those who did take the money and run but also there are families out there who would try to break the cycle and they would use this advantage to do so.
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    • John Buchanan
       
      I think it is interesting to say that government cannot make someone change their own specific beliefs and cultures, but can change the culture as a whole.  Can it?  To a certain extent, yes.  But it does not happen instantly.  It takes generations for this change to take place, and government rarely stays committed to something for that long.
  • Solís’s and Hernández’s grandparents were poor, their parents are poor and they are poor.
    • Felecia Russell
       
      It is a life cycle, until someone beat the ODDS(rarely).
    • nsamuelian
       
      I agree with Felecia. If your family and ancestors were poor, there are very chances that you also will be poor. Like she stated above, there needs to be that one person that goes above and beyond the norm and then you can break this cycle. But those cases only happen very rarely, almost miracles.
    • Alexis Schomer
       
      I think the biggest reason why "poorness" is passed down is because the family has no financial literacy and teaches their children the same techniques they have used to get by in life. If the parents were not knowledgeable with money, they cannot teach their children how to be and thus the children will be in the same financial boat as their parents unless they take it upon themselves to learn from an outside source. Usually being poor is passed down along with being rich and this is not because of the physical money being passed down but because of the ideas, knowledge, and ability to handle money that is either being taught or not being taught. 
    • Devon Meredith
       
      It is true that in most cases when the parents are the poor then the sons and daughters are also poor. But Felecia is right that one person needs to take a stand and try their best to fix what has been the main problem  in their family. This takes power and will though, that most people who are poor lack.
    • chelseaedgerley
       
      in order to have change you need knowledge, motivation and sometimes money which this culture doesn't have a lot of. Hence we see the same repeating pattern.
    • Justina Cooney
       
      I don't agree anyone could make the statement that parents transmit it to thier children. I understand that where people live might transmit less opportunities but many parents move here and struggle to give their children a better life. They do everything they can in order to prevent their kids from struggling like they do.
    • madison taylor
       
      I would agree with this because I would say most parents do everything they can to help their children. If people move it is usually to help their kids and give them opportunities they never had.
  • hat nothing government could feasibly do would change that orientation or stop parents from transmitting it to their children.
    • Kayla Sawoski
       
      Just because your parents are poor, doesn't mean that you will be poor. People still have the opportunities to make a better environment and living situation for themselves. The government may not be able to help but they can find ways to stay stable.
    • Kelsey Fratello
       
      I agree with Kayla because sometimes when the parents are poor, it makes the children work really hard not to be; it can cause them to try to be successful so that they can help support their parents and be able to give to their children the things they didn't get when they were little. I know people who have worked really hard not to be poor so that their children could live the happy life that they never got to. 
    • chelseaedgerley
       
      totally true, you can change your future however its hard. Some will go to college or do better than their family, but you dont see it very often, its not as easy as it sounds. 
    • Chantelle Cichon
       
      I think that this is a very selfish train of thought, for some people can be very driven and motivated but are unable to to get out of their poverty due to their family needs and society.  It's not fair to discriminate an entire class as a whole when only a percentage of them are actually not future-oriented.
Ryan Brown

Jay-Z vs the Game: Lessons for the American Primacy Debate - 0 views

I think the most interesting comment was the comparison between Jay-z and the U.S. Example - "As Jay-Z got older and more powerful, the marginal benefits of such battles declined and the costs incr...

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Eric Henderson

Stone Chapter 13: Facts - 19 views

for question 2, I do not think that there is a decisive dividing line between everything. In many and most cases, there is a lot of gray area, like that in the Rodney King case. As a society, we ...

Melissa Moreno

What Makes Us Happy? - Magazine - The Atlantic - 0 views

  • Is there a formula—some mix of love, work, and psychological adaptation—for a good life?
    • Sarah McKee
       
      I honestly just don't think there is. Obviously some people do, I mean they did this study, but I don't think there is a formula for happiness. I think everyone is different so what makes them happy is different.
    • Mike Frieda
       
      Right off the bat, I must say no there is not a formula. "Good" is an entirely subjective idea. What one individual considers "good" might be someone else's idea of terrible. Just looking at basic social and cultural values/norms it would be impossible to set a single list of objectives a person must accomplish in order to consider themselves as having a good life. 
    • Amanda Power
       
      Although people are different there are more similarities in all of us than differences. There may not be an exact formula but there might be a specific set of things all people need in order to be happy.
    • Eric Henderson
       
      I agree with you Amanda, there is definitely not one specific formula that will yield overall hapiness. Yet, there may be a select few aspects of one's life that may yield greater happiness for them than the happiness of a person who does not have those things.
    • Melissa Moreno
       
      Happiness is dependent upon a persons morals and ethics as well as their culture. I agree with Sarah, there isn't a formula for happiness. A person coming from an affluent culture is more likely going to consider more materialistic things in what makes them happy than someone who comes from a third world country, or even a country that is war torn. At the end of the day you are the one who has to look yourself in the mirror and figure out if you are happy with what you have and the decisions that you make, that is ultimately all that matters. 
  • that combination of sentiments and physiological factors which in toto is commonly interpreted as successful living.”
    • Sarah McKee
       
      These seem very nonspecific.
    • magen sanders
       
      the things that we study and experiment are things we are most passionate about and the things that are most popular in society, since this was not an extremely detrimental study to society it died out and wasnt funded does that make it any less important. i feel bad that they loss funding.
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  • From their days of bull sessions in Cambridge to their active duty in World War II, through marriages and divorces, professional advancement and collapse—and now well into retirement—the men have submitted to regular medical exams, taken psychological tests, returned questionnaires, and sat for interviews
  • longitudinal method of research, which tracks relatively small samples over long periods of time
  • By age 50, almost a third of the men had at one time or another met Vaillant’s criteria for mental illness
    • Amanda Power
       
      This is incredibly interesting, especially considering society looks down on mental illness.  
  • A survey asks you: “If you had your life to live over again, what problem, if any, would you have sought help for and to whom would you have gone?” “Probably I am fooling myself,” you write, “but I don’t think I would want to change anything.”
    • nsamuelian
       
      i asked myself this question after reading this and i also answered the same thing. if i had lived a life like this, i would be pretty satisfied and i think most other would also. it is like living the american dream; living a successful, long, healthy life with your wife by your side, your kids and grandkids in your life. many people would have the same reaction, but most people wouldnt want to die falling down drunk.
  • “They were normal when I picked them,” he told Vaillant in the 1960s. “It must have been the psychiatrists who screwed them up.”
    • Gaby Ramirez Castorena
       
      this is an interesting statement to make...perhaps it can be considered possible that all of the research did create this kind of illness, which really says something about the human mind
  •  
    Life is so complex. I believe that there are general things people can do to increase their odds of living a good life, such as staying away from drugs, but there are numerous factors that are beyond their control. Children generally cannot determine whether or not their parents stay together, and as Vaillant states, it is extremely difficult for young people to use "mature adaptations" without going through some experience to teach them how to behave. Life ain't no crystal staircase for anyone. Also, I believe that the question should not be "what makes us happy" but "what satisfies us." Happiness is only on a surface level (and generally temporary) without a foundation of satisfaction.
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    I do not think there is a formula for creating a good life. I think that creating your own personal good life is ultimately how you portray your life. If you think that if you think you have a good life then it is obvious that there is no formula. Every person is different and each person has their own take on what a good life would be described.
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    This goes back to the "American Dream". The good life and happiness is best identified by the individual rather than others' judgements. Each and every person has their own aspirations and dreams, and how close you come to reaching those goals and happiness, determines how successful you really are.
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    I think having a good life is all up to you. You put in the effort and your effort determines the outcome. To have a good life you should eliminate all bad things and obstacles such as drugs, alcohol, and other bad influences. When you eliminate the bad things you can achieve a good life and be happy.
Benjamin Chavez II

Moral Psychology (TED talk) - 0 views

    • Amanda Garcia
       
      When Haidt first began his speech he sounded extremely biased, which was both arresting and irritating, since Ted Talks are generally open-minded. But then he continued on and made some very interesting points which I thought were smartly objective and important for all to understand. It is true that no man ever thinks, once he's made up his mind about something, that he is in the wrong. It takes reason and respect, and moreso the ability to understand their moral psychology, to convince them otherwise. And even then, we all must be open to realizing that we may not be completely in the right ourselves, and that when a collective effort is made to contribute our differentiating positions to society, we can better find a relative medium.
    • chelseaedgerley
       
      Yeah didnt like this video, sure republicans are more closed minded but democrats are free o anything. No one but you can say if one is right or wrong. Video was bias. Either way each party should have respect for the other.
    • Karina DaSilva
       
      I really loved the "first draft" thing. I think it really shows how culture and society influences, but not necessarily implants, ideologies and perspectives.  The question of "what is moral" is much more complicated than it seems.
    • Benjamin Chavez II
       
      All in all it was a pretty good TED talk.  He kept me interested in the beginning with some of the jokes and powerpoint slides but started losing me when was trying to make his point at the end.  One thing I found very interesting though was when he quoted Sent-ts'an.  Sent-ts'an said, "The struggle between 'for' and 'against' is the mind's worst disease". That is so true and sadly there is no escape from this "disease". But by thinking that way for a second, Haidt says that we can "step out of the moral matrix" and change the world for the better by giving others opinions a chance at being right.
Amanda Garcia

Sample Chapter for Ober, J.: Democracy and Knowledge: Innovation and Learning in Classi... - 3 views

  • The bad news offered here is that it is only by mobilizing knowledge that is widely dispersed across a genuinely diverse community that a free society can hope to outperform its rivals while remaining true to its values. The good news is that by putting knowledge to work, democracy can fulfill that hope.2
    • Finn Sukkestad
       
      Facebook and other social networks perform this function in a way by making it possible to share information with a large group of possibly a diverse community.  However, most of the information shared has some sor of hidden agenda it seems and therefore make it very difficult to trust or really think about the information. Likewise, the anecdotes of information are usually just present in the mind for as long as you are looking at the screen and disappears as you scroll down with two fingers.  I think that social networking and the internet in general have the potential to do a lot fo good in our society by spreading knowledge the hard part is getting that knowledge to make a difference in peoples lives and their ideologies which directly effect the country as a whole when it comes to voting.
    • chelseaedgerley
       
      agree with finn, with technology comes the spreading of knowledge both good and bad. 
    • madison taylor
       
      I thought the line about how willfull ignorance is practiced in politics by both sides was interesting. It is true that many times policy makers will choose to ignore or be completely ignorant of the bad stuff and wont tell the people what could be bad about their plan. They focus on only the good and tell you only the good things. We have to figure out what could go wrong on our own.
    • Karina DaSilva
       
      But the thing about Athenian government is that while it was presented as a people's government, it still was very narrow in who participated (if you were a woman or a slave, tough luck) I only say this because while their system was very admirable, it's easy to give a certain group of people a bit more power, however slight. And I feel like this is a problem today, maybe not as obvious, but it's there.
  • The history of Athenian popular government shows that making good use of dispersed knowledge is the original source of democracy’s strength.
    • Ashley Mehrens
       
      I really like this statement. Basically saying that democracy only works if we all work together. Not one person knows everything to properly run the government. We have to be able to take some knowledge from many different sources to effectively work. I think that nowadays we especially have to keep this in mind because of the accessibility of information. Everyone can have access to more than enough information but one person cannot simply do it on their own. If the Ancient Athenians could figure out how to run a decent government than we should be able to as well. 
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  • Contemporary political practice often treats free citizens as passive subjects by discounting the value of what they know
    • Amanda Garcia
       
      Athenian principals stress policy that is good for democracy, thinking that it will always lead to what is best for the community. Not all nations can work under a typical Athenian democracy though. First of all, Athens was a CITY not a country; the reason why its members were so involved was because they had public meetings in courthouses in which all citizens were allowed to argue and vote and have a say in the city's political agenda. It would be impossible to have something this engaging on a national level, in which every citizen is expected to participate, or else not bother to complain.  Secondly, not all residents of Athens were citizens, and if you were not a citizen (born in Athens and not a foreigner) then you had no say in the politics of Athens. So Athenian democracy did not look out for the best of its community because its community was much larger than those who had a say in its politics; it looked out for its male citizens and the democracy that upheld that type of government.  Thirdly, Athenian citizens were expected to bring a well-formed argument for their proposals to the table if they wanted to be even barely considered in the courts. So yes, you DID have to know your stuff and your opinion WAS discounted if you didn't, because you had no place giving opinions in things you weren't very well educated in. And even then, those who could convince and sway the most people to their side were the ones who had their agendas voted for, even if, on occasion, those agendas were not to the benefit of the "community" of Athens. In fact, Athenian democracy oftentimes lead to the detriment of the city, when people who should have had no say in its policy were allowed to influence and effect change if they could argue well enough. So before we go on putting one version of democracy on a pedestal above another, let's remember there are flaws in every version of every type of government, and not one has proven to be even remotely ideal yet. 
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    Interesting read the attention grabber was Plato. I have to agree that democracy is flawed mostly because people are misinformed. It be hilarious if philosophers ran the state but awesome non the less.
Flavio Guzman

Bystanders to Genocide - Samantha Power - The Atlantic - 5 views

  • And most crucial, what could the United States have done to save lives?
    • Dana Sacca
       
      I don't think anything could have been done. By Clinton's reaction he obviously had more important things on his plate than those being killed off in Rwanda. This is saddening and sickening. There was such a big hype about "Kony 2012" and yet nothing was done about this?
    • Cameron Schroeck
       
      I think this raises the question about a country's responsibility to other nations. Clinton may have had many priorities, but does that mean we can simply ignore other country's concerns? I think that every time period is going to have a different mood toward foreign policy. There are times when we can only focus on ourselves and others where we should do more for other countries. Regardless, there is an emotional/moral obligation to help others/other countries in need. 
    • Devon Meredith
       
      The question shouldn't be "what could have the United States have done to save lives?" but "what could the Clinton Administration have done to save lives?". When citizens elect the president they put all trust and knowledge in what decisions he will make. America made its choice to elect Clinton and so we should be able trust that he will make the decision. 
    • Tori Mayeda
       
      I agree that there probably wasn't much that Clinton could have done to help. On the other hand i find it hard to believe that he had no idea that it was going on. Sure there might have been more important things going on that pertained to him but i feel like if that many people were being slaughtered it would stand out. It wouldn't be something to just pass over. 
    • haakonasker
       
      There was not any Country in the world that did anything while the genocide took place. I think that the world sometimes turn their back against big issues that goes on. Especially in Africa. The genocide in Darfur, Sudan is another newer example on how the United States and the rest of the world turned their back against, also the starvation of millions of people in Eastern Africa that have been going on the last couple of years, manly in Somalia. I agree with Tori, on that Clinton did know what was going on in Rwanda, but did not act upon it. This is what the world do a lot of times. If a Country is not going to benefit financially or for their own countries security, they will not do anything about the problem.
  • s. It reveals that the U.S. government knew enough about the genocide early on to save lives, but passed up countless opportunities to intervene.
    • Alexis Schomer
       
      I think the U.S. needs to step it up. The president is too worried about intervening with the "wrong" countries because he is concerned about losing trust or priveleges with other countries. This cowardice to step up and do the right thing has killed hundreds of thousands of people. I personally talked to a survivor of the genocide mentioned above and the terror he and his famil went through is not okay. The U.S. government also fails to announce the Armenian Genocide as the president does not want Turkey to put the U.S. on their bad side. People should take a step back and look at what is happening to the world around them. Although it may be more pragmatic to make certain decisions, the morality and "rightness" should also be a key role as we are all humans and have a level of compassion and urge to do the right thing and help others in their time of need. It would have been right o defend the Tutsis who were a minority and could not defend themselves. 
    • chelseaedgerley
       
      So many signs or insights of information were given were given to the us, yet because the "genocide" word was used the US stayed out of it, aside from sending UN troops. United States policy resembled "outta sight, outta mind". many, if not all lives could have been saved
    • Kelsey Fratello
       
      I agree that this was not okay. This statement of the U. S. knowing enough about the genocide but just merely passing up the many opportunities to help puts the U. S. in a bad light. Like Alexis said, the president was so concerned with the alliances he has made with countries in the world that he basically sat back and let the genocide happen. It is so sad to think that so many people lost their lives or lost those whom they loved and that this country could have taken steps to stop this, but didn't. This article puts the U. S. and Clinton in a particularly bad light, as it should for what happened. 
    • Courtney Sabile
       
      I agree as well. Clinton should have paid more attention to this issue. By passing it up, it gave him an unfavorable image. He was the President, and other countries around the world see his actions through all of America. It was a poor action to not be able to intervene with the genocides.
    • Brandon Weger
       
      I'm not really sure if I agree that we should have intervened, or that I blame Clinton... I think that it's hard to really make that claim, to say that the President should have been on top of things and intervene in a  genocide. It is very dangerous to just leap into a country and try and tell them what to do... we would be painting a target on our back, and might even create a war in that manner. I know that we knew about it and we could have done something, but that doesn't mean we were the only country, just Clinton got caught holding all of the cards and was blamed for not taking action. Being President would be too difficult for me, foreign affairs are very tricky business...
    • Edmund Garrett
       
      It's sticky business. It's hard to just intervene in other countries internal affairs. Who are we to judge and patronise their culture. What we have defined as genocide is not necessarily what the Utuu call it. Perhaps that basic sense of what is mass killing does not ring in their heads. It's just a fact that is considered differently by different societies and cultures. Maybe an ethnic cleansing or simply just a cleansing to better their society. And who are we to enforce what our ideas I what's better onto them?
  • In the course of a hundred days in 1994 the Hutu government of Rwanda and its extremist allies very nearly succeeded in exterminating the country's Tutsi minority
    • chelseaedgerley
       
      super interesting genocide, one that I have researched deeply. Super interesting because this genocide wasnt two different lands, they shared everything aside from the title of hutu and tutisi. It was people murdering their own people
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  • As the terror in Rwanda had unfolded, Clinton had shown virtually no interest in stopping the genocide, and his Administration had stood by as the death toll rose into the hundreds of thousands.
    • Meghann Ellis
       
      What else could President Clinton have done? This is the question that many find debatable. Is the duty of the United States to protect other nations in times of genocide. Honestly I think that many didn't not know how bad the genocide was at first but as time went on more and more died, which called for more nations to step in and help. Clinton was taking a huge risk if he put his country into the mix of the genocide. Oddly enough I don't think that there was much he could personally do and so I think he made a good choice in just staying out of it, even though it may not be the most moral thing to do.
    • jeffrey hernandez
       
      Even if he did send troops into Rwanda, it's very difficult to know who you are fighting against. Also the president would have to endure the consequences of looking like a bully to other nations. Sometimes staying neutral is the easiest way out of it and that is the direction the president choose. 
    • Devin Haerle
       
      It was a lose-lose situation. If the US intervened other nations in the region might twist US actions into those of the bully, the oppressor, even if they were well-intentioned, and moving more troops into the region may have only served to escalate the situation and bog the US down in yet another costly and likely unpopular war. Proponents of intervention often seem to overlook the economic and psychological cost of war. If the US stood by, its citizens and others would accuse the government of a lack of action on important issues. Clinton's actions were no doubt well-rehearsed and he assuredly recieved advice on the situation from the cabinet, advisors, et cetera- few Presidents act alone- and he did what was seen as in America's best interest.
  • A few years later, in a series in The New Yorker, Philip Gourevitch recounted in horrific detail the story of the genocide and the world's failure to stop it
    • khampton44
       
      I found the last part of this sentence to be really true. I did not know about this at all but it seem like it should have been a bigger deal and someone needed to step in and help. I do not see how it could have been so easily ignored. So many people died for no reason at all it just seems crazy it was not in the media or in our history books now.
    • Justina Cooney
       
      This is the most shocking and interesting aspect of foreign policy; that is how we choose our battles. The excuse that we had no idea what was happening really does not cut it but I do understand that many things are weighed out when making decsions like whether or not to get involved in other countries problems. I wonder how people make decisions to refrain from interviening and keep from the media mass genocides like this incident in Rwanda.
  • "We come here today partly in recognition of the fact that we in the United States and the world community did not do as much as we could have and should have done to try to limit what occurred" in Rwanda.
    • Karina DaSilva
       
      I get the impression that it is far more likely for a government to take action over something if it is made public. The Tutsi genocide is far less known than say, the Holocaust. People don't know about what is going on, therefore they don't ask questions. Once people start raising questions, however, I feel like that's when a lot of politicians start making a "stand".
  • Hutu militiamen, soldiers, and ordinary citizens murdered some 800,000 Tutsi and politically moderate Hutu.
    • Devin Milligan
       
      I think that this is pretty horrible. For people to ruthlessly kill this many people is just unbelievable. Something should have been done to stop this. I think that the fact that Clinton knew about this and did nothing to stop him make him slightly guilty. Its like someone watching a murder and just walking away and not helping while its happening. And i think it made Clinton look bad as well as America.
    • Ashley Mehrens
       
      I think that this is an extremely sad story to be told. People really need to be more informed about this kind of thing. If more people were informed then I think the government would be more inclined to step in and help. Well the government is supposed to work that way. But someone in one of the later comments mentioned Kony 2012 in which many people did make a statement about and the government still didn't step up to the plate. Not only was the Clinton administration made to look bad, they also could have easily changed their image.
    • Sean McCarthy
       
      The US government's semi-imperialist use of its military in recent years is out of control, but what we SHOULD be using our military for, outside of protecting out homeland, is to eradicate genocides like this.. here's an idea, let's stop deposing foreign leaders just because they don't like us, and start worrying about mindless killing. gameplan -set.
    • Flavio Guzman
       
      How is it possible that this was allowed to happen? thats more than half a million lives lost and yet it took years for someone to write about it. If this had happened in any developed country we would have known this was going to happen before it even happened. These are the issues that all goverment should be worried about fixing now, not other things such as oil.
    • Devin Milligan
       
      I think that this is pretty horrible. For people to ruthlessly kill this many people is just unbelievable. Something should have been done to stop this. I think that the fact that Clinton knew about this and did nothing to stop him make him slightly guilty. Its like someone watching a murder and just walking away and not helping while its happening. And i think it made Clinton look bad as well as America.
  • Why did the United States not do more for the Rwandans at the time of the killings?
    • Kayla Sawoski
       
      What else could President Clinton have done? It's hard to get involved in something so far from us. Rwanda is on the other side of the world and it is hard to stay in contact. We only know what is going on from stories and pictures being shared with the U.S. I feel like if the United States got involved it possibly could have made it worse. Clinton was put in a tough place and all the pressure was put on him. I think there were things that maybe could have happened to help but it was a difficult place to be in. 
    • madison taylor
       
      I think the U.S did do somethings as far as sending military aid to protect people. besides that i don't know how much more the United states could have done to help. We sent soldiers over who had much more pwerful weapons than the hutu extremists and so the hutu usually stayed away. The U.S could not do much more at the time of it happening
    • Brandon White
       
      In retrospect, we as Americans look at the Rwandan genocide and think about how we could have saved people. But would we really do anything different in a similar situation today? Look at Syria. There is violence there similar to the situation in Rwanda. But we are not getting involved. We are far to retrospective and not proactive. 
  • portrayed (and, they insist, perceived) the deaths not as atrocities or the components and symptoms of genocide but as wartime "casualties"—the deaths of combatants or those caught between them in a civil war.
    • Sean McCarthy
       
      this is so interesting, it kind of echoes what we've been learning about with the polis, that in it politicians can take Truth and kind of turn it in a way that helps them..
  • most efficient killing spree
    • Kim H
       
      This phrasing here really bothers me. Saying that this event was "efficient" makes it sound as though it was a good thing. This genocide was horrific. That's a much better word to describe it, than efficient. 
  •  
    This article informed me about the genocide in Rwanda. I have done investigations of the genocide in Darfur and Sudan because George clooney and his father were jailed for protesting and I wanted to know why the media brought more attention to an actor and not a country that is killing itself. Genocide is mass murder and it is unfortunate that if there are no incentives for America or other countries to help then they turn a cheek. Notice how USA invades countries where oil is plentiful. This to me explains USA avoidance to act on humanitarian issues like this.
  •  
    I feel that we should have done something to help what was hapening overseas, but at the same time where does our role as the "international police" end? It is sadly coming to the point where if there is an international issue and the US is not involved then it looks like we are not doing our job of protecting. Yes we should have helped the genecide, but the issue was not with our country so why are we being criticized? I am not saying that we should not of helped, only that is it not fair to question the character of the US
  •  
    The article describes the mass killing of approximately 800,000 people in Rwanda, East Africa, in 1994. Two ethnic groups were in competition with each other: the Hutu people and the Tutsi people. The Hutus massacred the Tutsi population brutally, trying to eliminate it completely. The rest of the world did nothing to help. We learn something very terrible: that the US was a bystander too genocide. It was sad to read how President Clinton did not even want to help out or respect the situation. Actually, it was ignored. He did not have any interest in stopping the genocide and he stood by as many deaths were occurring. Genocide is a serious crime-the worst possible. One population was trying to eliminate another by terribly violent means. People are asking themselves how it is possible for a country like the United States not to know about it. I, myself, wonder how the President of the United States cannot know the details. Why did he show no interest at all? I think the reason is that he and the United States simply did not want to get involved. That is why he issued the "Clinton apology," which was actually a carefully hedged acknowledgement" Another issue I found interesting was the fact that the policymakers declared the deaths as "casualties" and war deaths. Were they ashamed into admitting that it's partially the US fault that ignored this problem that affects everyone? Was this a way to create a kind of distance between the terrible violence and the typical political situation in another part of the world? At the end of the article the writers says that policymakers don't want to talk about suffering because it affects them and it shows one's "rational" arguments are weak. To me, this means that very often countries and political leaders do not want to risk anything by taking a stand or making a strong decision. It is easier not to do anything -- and apologize for it later! It makes me think that we need strong, intelligent
Phillip Delgado

Data & Design How-to's Note 1: Where is your evidence? | Drawing by Numbers - 2 views

  • “The problem with the Pacific garbage patch is that I've never seen a picture of it that's compelling;  when you go out there they say there's garbage floating over an area the size of the state of Texas. So you sort of imagine it, then you want to see the pictorial evidence of it,  and when you're actually out there, it's not like you're knee deep in garbage. There's a lot of it slightly subsurface, so the pictures don't convey it. However,  that photograph of 13.8 ounces of mostly plastic inside the stomach of one bird tells the story.”
    • Kelsey Fratello
       
      I agree with Susan Middleton that visuals can have a huge affect on people. It is all about the best way to get your point across to your audience. This picture of the contents of the bird's stomach next to the picture of what plastic items currently float in our oceans needs no explanation. Automatically, the audience can understand that you are against people throwing away plastic items that can choke these birds. This picture is not only perfect because it doesn't need an explanation, but also because it is dramatic enough to cause people to think twice about throwing away small, plastic items. 
    • Lauren Dudley
       
      I agree with Kelsey as if you see garbage floating in the ocean.. you see it but you do not really see the toll that it takes on the environment/birds, but the dramatic use of the bird and its stomach catches people off guard. The people relate to animals and seeing that kind of pain witht he garbage inside the bird, a death that people could have prevented by not throwing their trash into the water can really affect humans and their mindset.
    • Kim H
       
      These images are effective because they evoke an emotional response from us. We see that the bird suffered, then we see why, then (hopefully) we realize that we can do something to eliminate other birds' suffering. In the same way, political campaigns use color and picture to effect their viewers. When you want the viewer to think positively, show happy people in full color; when you want the viewer to think negatively, show sad people in gray-scale. It's highly effective. 
  • Evidence is not only text and numbers. Collections of information, images, visual arrangements of data can became the evidence that people need to relate to, comprehend and take action on an issue. Take a look at the photograph below:  
    • Erick Sandoval
       
      When we look at these broken spectacles, we don't really see anything more than 12 spectacles. Once we are told that they belonged to 12 of 58,000 victims of the Holocaust, it makes us picture how horribly these people were treated. Since the spectacles are different from one another, we can imagine that the victims were mistreated in many different ways which makes us think of more stories of what they went through. 
    • Carissa Faulk
       
      It is absolutely astounding how much power an image has to influence our thoughts and emotions, and it is also astounding how much our brains can deduce from such a simple image. This really illustrates the power of image on our emotions an perceptions of an event.
  • This photograph communicates evidence of an atrocity in a completely different way than through statistics or a list of names. You are immediately made to empathise. This demonstrates what evidence can do: it can tell a strong and memorable story.
    • Tatiana McCuaig
       
      The glasses are an immediate visual that can be seen. As the saying goes, "a picture is worth a thousand words" and in this case that is clear. The picture evokes an emotion and is able to tell a story. People can be lost in the transition from human to statistic, yet pictures and visuals put more into each piece of evidence. 
    • Meghann Ellis
       
      The glasses in this photo is a perfect way to make an audience become more visual. With using a visual such as the glasses one can use their imagination more in order to conclude the story that picture starts.  Agreeing with Tatiana I think that pictures can evoke emotions in people and that pictures can presents more evidence that is "true" to make others believe more.
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  • evidence is only as valuable as the ability to communicate it successfully.
    • Sarah Marroquin
       
      This is very true! Most times when there is game changing evidence that could be the key to a case, the only way it will be acknowledged is if the presenter can properly express themselves.
    • Kevin Olive
       
      I agree. It is much harder to take a piece of evidence seriously if it is just shown in an ordinary manner. If the piece of evidence is well presented to a person, then the person is more likely to interpret the evidence as significant. 
    • Tori Mayeda
       
      I agree with this completely. The way you present the information or evidence is crucial to how useful it will be. It's not worth anything if you don't understand it and present it in a way that others will understand it as well. 
    • Caitlin Fransen
       
      I also agree with this, it is very important how people present their evidence and details in odder to swade an audience. if it is really good evidence, but presented poorly... it will be looked passed. The only way i disagree with this statement and idea is when people are so set on their ideas and view points that not matter what the evidence is or how it is presented they will still think the same. 
    • Nicolas Bianchi
       
      Absolutely agree.  If used in the wrong context, it wont really do much for you.  If you are able to utilize it properly, it will be taken seriously.
    • Caitlin Scott
       
      Also, we live in a society where we expect everything to be "sold" to us.  We are such a consumer based society that if something doesn't look appealing or isn't eye catching, we will not pay attention or just completely tune out.  I think that is why a lot of evidence is presented as a scare tactic, they argue that if you don't pay attention to something, then horrible results will come out of not knowing the evidence.
  • This information can be used to strategically influence policy and public debate
    • Sean McCarthy
       
      just like in the presidential debates where the candidates were saying completely opposite statements, yet both were somehow mostly true.
    • Justina Cooney
       
      This is one problem I see with the use of evidence and data. It is like statistics, you can make the results say bascially whatever you want depending on what you measure. It is like the saying we learned that measuring is scientific but what we measure is political. Politicians and the media can give evidence for what ever they want to support by manipulating it. Just watch a fox then msnbc they will have evidence for two very different sides.
  • Evidence is the greatest asset changemakers have.
    • Shannon Wirawan
       
      This is true because if a person cannot apply the evidence or just have basic evidence to support their topic, they wouldn't be held credible to others. I feel that the words they say would turn people away, knowledgeable or not, because people would talk and turn others against them. This would make the 'changemaker' have difficulties to try and make changes.
    • Edmund Garrett
       
      Having evidence can be very helpful for change makers but we kind of just got done discussing how people do not necessarily respond to accurate and well put across evidence. To put evidence across in its most well thought out way requires thought to understand it. The average voter probably is not very intelligent and do not make decisions based off of well thought out evidence. They make decisions off of symbols that are vague and not really explained to a full extent. Symbols are probably a more effective toll for change makers than evidence backing up claims. Almost like lying sort of to appeal to a voter's likes and dislikes. People do not always want the truth but want they want to hear. (these are all just different ways of phrasing my opinion)
    • Finn Sukkestad
       
      This makes me think of the lady who called Obama a communist on national television and then when asked about it she simply told the reported to "study it out" and "look it up" repeatedly without giving any sort of evidence to the fact that he is a communist and not an American despite being born here.  She is just a popular youtube video now because she had no knowledge of any real evidence and was looks like she is just there hopping on the Kenyan communist bandwagon and shouting out random things but doesn't really know what she is talking about.
    • madison taylor
       
      Without evidence you would just be saying random ideas. You have to be able to back up your ideas and prove that they will work or else people wont care what you "think" will help. You must prove yourself because it is the peoples job not to be too trusting and take people for what they say. We need to make them prove their ideas are the right ones.
  • technologies tend to amplify real-world problems, not reduce them
    • Hayley Jensen
       
      Technologies should never be assumed to solved problems. When we have problems, we have them with other people, specifically relating to using evidence. Technology is a medium to which we can derive specific numbers, communicate faster, make projects go faster, etc. It is a convenient way to do all these things but the responsibility for figuring out these issues lies with people themselves. I believe that it is a very naive way of looking at life if we just think we can off load our problems on technology and think it would automatically be fixed. The reason technologies tend to amplify real-world problems is because we take less responsibility to fix them and instead us technologies to make ourselves, our ideas, our motives, look better than others instead of collaborating with other to solve an issue. In relation to inequality, maybe people who DON'T have access to technologies are the ones who have presented the real-world problem. This takes their ability to solve their problem out of their hands and into someone else's who has the technology. When it is out of the hands of those to which the problem lies, the motive is not personal and the issue can become skewed and potentially inaccurate. 
    • Benjamin Chavez II
       
      I agree with Hayley's statement that we take less responsibility to real-world problems through technology.  I recently read an essay called "Small Change: Why the Revolution Will Not Be Tweeted" by Malcolm Gladwellsince.  In summary it's an argument that the posts on social networks (technology) that ask us to do something that we typically wouldn't be motivated to do in a small form (1 million likes = 100 dollars to charity) is going to eliminate us from doing large things like the civil rights movements because we will already have the satisfaction of doing the small thing.
  • use the best format for the job at hand, with a mix of old and new technologies
    • Brandon White
       
      This is an idea that I can agree with. I work in a library, and currently we are trying to balance new and old technology. When I help with research, students seems too keen to try to find internet sources before trying to find books that we have that are extremely relevant to their needs. Students always feel that there will be some sort of "magical" journal online that will give them exactly what they need, when in reality. Finding things online is often easier, but students seem to forget that there actually are other formats of information still available: Books, newspapers, periodicals, and the like. The key is to find a healthy balance of information that works best with a specific topic. 
    • Caitlin Scott
       
      I agree Brandon, I've been at CLU for 3 years, and I had no idea how to search the databases in the library until I had a class that took us there to explain it.  It would have helped me with so many research papers.  I'm glad I have that information now, but if people don't know that they have access to it, all they are going to be doing is searching GOOGLE and finding results that they are not looking for.
  • Between the two extremes - reports and billboards – there are opportunities to use evidence in information design in a layered and innovative way that can appeal to a wide range of potential allies.
    • Nicolas Bianchi
       
      I agree with this as well.  "Potential allies" may take to things differently.  If there was one generic way evidence was used, you may miss out on a few of these allies.
  • Activists have many opportunities to use diverse forms and types of evidence to tell a story, words, numbers and statistics are important, but they are not the only form of evidence.
    • Dana Sacca
       
      There are many different ways to get evidenec, so why aren't they all used? Its mainly only numbers used as evidence.
    • Phillip Delgado
       
      I believe that the black noise project would generate different results if done in the United States. I believe culturally the people are attracted to different things. Women dressed more provocatively will have a much higher change of being sexually harassed. In India women wouldn't normally dress like that
Ryan Brown

Post Positive Policy - 1 views

This is the quote I want to note on..."Second, there is an issue of legitimation that relates to the intrinsic value of democracy. As deliberative democrats (Cohen, 1989, among many others) now poi...

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Sabryna Aylard

Tavish's Questions on Inducements (Discussion for November 11) - 22 views

I feel inducements are beneficial when the people only participate in these behavioral changes just for the inducement. They need to have a interest or desire to want the behavioral change. For ins...

question inducements discussion November 3

Eric Henderson

System failure - The Boston Globe - 1 views

    • Gaby Ramirez Castorena
       
      while universal health care does sound ideal and very good, one also has to consider the negative effects of it. Honestly, [at least in America] we live in a society where we will only do a great job on something if it is in our own interest. By eliminating competition, we would create a health/medical system that doesn't get its job done effectively, and one that also lacks good attention and care to the patients, as well as the details of cleanliness, etc. In my opinion, the way to solve this is to enforce a limit on the amount that health insurance companies can charge, and force them to accept anyone, no matter if they do have preexisting conditions. In this way, there would still be competition within the "market", and yet by creating this "lid"/ limit, it would still be affordable to the majority of the public.
    • Jonathan Omokawa
       
      I agree with Gaby on this. The negatives of Universal Health Care does sound good. I think that going along with the market model, the system will cease to produce new improvements. Why have new improvements when everyone is mandated to use those certain products already approved. However, we can never be objective when the market model affects each of us. If our loved one needed a new heart, we are obviously going to get the best one possible, shopping around is not really a luxury that we would have. In that sense, we stop being rational thinkers and the market collapses in that instance.
  • So as the debate over health care heats up, go ahead and bash the bad guys. They probably deserve it. Just remember that the bashing alone won't change the rules of the game.
    • Felecia Russell
       
      I always wonder what my position would be if my father was a CEO for one of these health insurance companies or if my mother was a CFO for an insurance company. Would I have different beliefs about the healthcare system? Would I be against healthcare reform? Why would I be against it? Why wouldn't I want everyone to be able to be treated if they were sick? I want to see prohibitions against insurers discriminating against people because they were sick before(pre-existing conditions). Why cant somone be sick before? I want people to use preventive services and wellness plans,like Obama said. But why does everyone not want this? Maybe some people will say, well, that is your emotions speaking and your not considering all the affects a system like that could have on the system. But why is the system valued over someone's health? For some issues and problems, not all, emotions should play a part, morality should be important, and the valuing of a life should be more important than making money!
    • Mark Drach-Meinel
       
      It may seem that health is most important and that's what universal health care wants to fix but this means that everyone, rich or poor, has to pay money. Some people may not have enough money without giving up something like their house or their car. Just because somebody is against universal health care doesn't mean it's because they don't want everyone to be healthy.
    • anonymous
       
      I think basically what this quote is trying to get across is the idea that no one is going to benefit from frustration and disappointment that comes with the current health care situation in the US. In order to make changes, the system must be altered in some way; frustrated and outraged citizens alone won't do anything to benefit the situation. Also, going off of what Felicia said, pre-existing conditions are an unfortunate aspect to the likelihood that insurers will go through with insuring someone. If the person has a disease, further, it makes it even more difficult to find an insurance provider that will be worthwhile. When I was a toddler I had JRA, which caused me many hospital and doctor's visits, and health care for just the 18 months I was affected was very costly for my parents. Unfortunately society works this way; I definitely also see an undertone of Darwin's notion of "survival of the fittest" in health insurance providers' policies as well.
  • So commercial insurers targeted those groups that were relatively healthy and sold to them almost exclusively.
    • Tavish Dunn
       
      The change in goals form spreading coverage as widely as possible to targeting only those who would be low risk hurt commercial insurers instead of helping them. Because only healthy people were targeted, many people who qualified for health insurance did not see it as worthwhile and did not buy it, requiring the cost to increase for those who still had insurance to cover the lost customers.
    • Mark Drach-Meinel
       
      A strange system. The only winning move is not to pay.
    • Ryan Brown
       
      I read something yesterday on medical operations in the United States via cancer. It talks about how chemo-therapy has a twenty percent surivival rate and causes massive side effects at a pretty penny. However, in some places around the world they have some type of drug or program that has a 80% surivival rate of curing cancer, though we do not have it in the states because when people use chemo, it ends up being a 1 billion dollar business in the states. When do stop worrying about costs, start focusing on health? Do I think universal health care is a good idea? yeah, i do. Do i think it is possible? no, someone always loses in the systems.
    • Jacqueline Ramsay
       
      It is definitely scary how financially focused the United States is, especially concerning the health of its citizens. I agree, it poses the question of when does well-being become the primary focus, if ever?
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  • a new poll showed that two-thirds of us favor "profound" changes in the way we finance and deliver medical care. Ready to meet that demand are all the leading Democratic presidential candidates, plus maybe a Republican or two -- not to mention officials such as California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, who think they can create plans for near-universal coverage like the one that just took effect in Massachusetts.
    • nsamuelian
       
      Our universal view on health care is constantly fluctuating. We can never have one opinion about it. Every few weeks someone's opinion is now the opinion of everyone because he is well know "Educated" person. We can never have too much of one thought and we usually end up following those opinionated comments and "logical thoughts" of the educated and experts of this topic.
  • But that seems to be changing. Just this week, a new poll showed that two-thirds of us favor "profound" changes in the way we finance and deliver medical care.
    • Eric Henderson
       
      I believe that this statement could be extremely misleading as '"profound"' is in quotations meaning that there are different connotations of the word being used. While two thirds of the American public may agree there should be some change in the medical system, they all do not believe that there should be radical change.
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