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Jaap Bosman

Be More Saga | teachnorthern - 0 views

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diversity heterogeneity listening

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  • Diversity has become a buzz word, an oversimplified ideal.  We should instead embrace heterogeneity—the fact that people in the population at large, and within our own movements and communities, will invariably differ with regards to every possible trait. Heterogeneity is messy and complicated, but we must come to expect it.”
  • As educators, our job as I see it is to facilitate the self-responsible expression of those opinions and provide a safe space to allow them to change.
  • Jaap Bosman on 20 Jan 14
     
    about independence and self-responsibility.
Cris Crissman

The Main Responsibility of Teachers? Make yourself dispensable! | Reflecting Allowed - 0 views

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responsibility teachers MOOC obsolence

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  • Cris Crissman on 21 Feb 14
     
    I'd say Dave made himself dispensable ;-) See Comments, too.
Helen Crump

Rhizomatic learning: chaos, provocation and conflation #rhizo14 | Learningcreep - 2 views

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  • being a lifelong learner is something you just have to take on personally;
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 28 Jan 14
       
      Part of me disagrees vwehemently with this and part not so much. The disagree part says that lifelong learner is baked into the DNA. You don't have to take in 'on' because it is already 'in'. Another part of me says that we can devise algorithms for pursuing our own curiosity, we can take that task on personally.
  • Chaos abounds
    • Helen Crump
      Helen Crump on 28 Jan 14
       
      messified - now that's a good word.
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 04 Feb 14
       
      Messy is the space between order and chaos. It is the interval where stuff gets done, usually where friction and energy and all things physical happen.
  • independence isn’t the only stance to learning that they need – what about dependence and interdependence?
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 28 Jan 14
       
      enforced dependence, interdependence, and independence really puts the wind in my sails, but I am pretty sure I am not a good enough sailor to pull out all the sails. Add sail! That really shivers me timbers.
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  • “taking responsibility” doesn’t come naturally
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 28 Jan 14
       
      Perhaps it is repressed in traditional formal learning situations or it just doesn't make good, strategic sense to most learners where they are situated.
  • To permit “responsibility” and enable learners to assert their independence, it seems to me (and to a few others) that schools, or any formal learning context, would do well to not only encourage learners to pursue their passion, but to honour their unique experiences and to give them voice.
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 28 Jan 14
       
      I might also add that we invite as well. Permission may be necessary as a pump primer but invitation is the force that drives the water up and out. If you think of it in terms of artesian wells then you have to admit that for most of us you have to drill down for the water. The springs are fewer and may often only be a little weep of water that has to be dammed up a bit in order to drink from it.
  • “we conflate learning and schooling”
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 28 Jan 14
       
      And its specific corollary: we conflate learning with teaching.
  • it’s not about seeing learning more clearly
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 28 Jan 14
       
      I tried to talk about this when I referenced James Scott's binary of legible/illegible. Like the quants on Wall Street and in the Department of Education, clarification entails filtering out the fines of complexity. Sometimes this is good--penicillin, for example. But it can lead to unintended consequences--a wider resistance to all antibiotics. Seeing more clearly often has to come from sitting in the vortex and waiting. The water might clear of its own accord.
  • Terry Elliott on 28 Jan 14
     
    "being a lifelong learner is something you just have to take on personally"
  • Helen Crump on 28 Jan 14
     
    "being a lifelong learner is something you just have to take on personally"
Cris Crissman

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competency-based independent learning

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  • Cris Crissman on 23 Jan 14
     
    Competency-Based Education appeals to me because it seems easier for the teacher to be the facilitator/guide if not also responsible for the assessing/grading. Can it lead to independent learning?
  • Vanessa Vaile on 23 Jan 14
     
    It appeals to me too...I wonder why same person facilitating as assessing is rarely thought of as a conflict of interest. It's not impossible but can challenge impartiality
Cris Crissman

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networks garden eden stewart

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  • Cris Crissman on 11 Feb 14
     
    Bonnie Stewart response to Week 4 question: Do books make us stupid.
Cris Crissman

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books rhizomes Shlain Belenky

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  • Cris Crissman on 06 Feb 14
     
    Response to Dave's question, Week 4, on books and stupidity.
Cris Crissman

The Firestarter | Virtually Foolproof - 1 views

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community curriculum gift culture hyde davidson

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  • Cris Crissman on 18 Feb 14
     
    Week 4 response to question about community and curriculum. I introduce the course as gift community idea after Hyde's 1983 Gift Community.
Kevin Hodgson

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  • “People”
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Apr 15
       
      To talk about  "people" is to objectify and alienate. Making nouns of anything is a way to separate them from the world.
  • “peopling”
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Apr 15
       
      "Peopling" on the other hand is about human folk connecting to the world--subjectifying and unshackling the word.
    • Kevin Hodgson
      Kevin Hodgson on 22 Apr 15
       
      to people?
  • The first part of this essay is an account of innermost peopling – the social, self-conscious nature of human cognition. The second part of this essay moves outward, connecting cognition to the rituals and social information flows that make up the most important parts of our environment.
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  • In Others in Mind: The Social Origins of Self-Consciousness (one of my favorite books of all time), Philippe Rochat presents a social model of human cognition,
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Apr 15
       
      Social model of human knowings v. Cartesian knowing
  • Rochat, in contrast, models human cognition as fundamentally social in nature. Each person learns to be aware of himself – is constrained toward self-consciousness – by other people being aware of him. He learns to manage his image in the minds of others, and finds himself reflected, as in a mirror, through the interface of language and non-verbal communication.
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Apr 15
       
      We learn to become self-aware, we are "constrained" toward that goal by other folk.  Other folk are our first mirrors through non-verbal then oral and then written "interfaces".
  • infinite recursion
  • infinite recursion
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Apr 15
       
      We see ourselves through the constraining influences of other people, through the 'peopling' of others.  Others people us.  It is a limited recursion.  I think this has significance in #rhizo15. How? We are all seeing ourselves through the eyes of others.  How accurate is that subjective view?  Sometimes it is off by degrees of magnitude.  For example, I see some pretty effusive praise for stuff that by its nature is half-baked.  Yes, some is very good for a first draft, but most goes little past the initial draft and into further revision.  I expect further recursion, further refinement through reciprocal action, sometimes I get it, mostly I don't. Part of me take no offense while another part is deeply disturbed that the responses I get are so cursory.  And the cursory nature of most responses,  the desultory considerations of others we have come to respect become the default.  And, worse, they become internalized as the default mutual mental modeling.  Shallow of necessity, quick by force of circumstance, and a bare reciprocal exigency.  
    • Kevin Hodgson
      Kevin Hodgson on 22 Apr 15
       
      How much of that is on other people? How much of it is on us? How inviting are we to gather up ideas, particularly those who challenge our thinking? That "infinite" word in there .. that's a lot of recursive thinking going back and forth, toppling on itself ...
  • The self is not unitary and separate from others; peopling occurs in the context of mutual-mental-modeling relationships, which continue to affect each person when he is alone.
  • Each person’s self is spread out among many people, simulated in all their brains at varying levels of granularity. And each person has a different “self” for each one of the people he knows, and a different self for every social context.
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Apr 15
       
      Therefore, we have different subjective reflections from among different folk.  Each reflection is a unique self simulated by another's mind.  The same is true for social context.  We have a Rhizo15 self created by our Rhizo15 folk.  My question here is whether it is in any way an objective measure and does that matter?   Should any of us care about the simulations of others?  Should we rebel and subvert these simulacra because they are not 'us'?  It is hard to argue for this position simply because this acceptance of the peopling of others seems quite natural.  It is natural for us to consider this subjective and recursive view from others as the real deal.  Or is it just the default view?  Can we generate another way toward identity that is a balance between outer and inner subjectivity?
  • The self at work is different from the self at home with close friends, or in bed with a spouse. And none of these are the “true self” – rather, the self exists in all these, and in the transitions between them. There can never be one single, public self; to collapse all these multiple selves together would be akin to social death.
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Apr 15
       
      We are many selves.  No one reflection gets them all not even our own. Especially not our own.
    • Kevin Hodgson
      Kevin Hodgson on 22 Apr 15
       
      This reminds me of how to think of our students -- of their lives outside of our classroom,our building ... what literacies are authentic for them?
  • Mentally maintaining one’s identity in relation to others, including one’s accurate social status and relationships in each case, is the core task of being human.
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Apr 15
       
      Powerful assertion here.  And the proof is in asking what happens when we do not maintain that identity.
  • a huge portion of our internal cognitive machinery, of which we are not normally aware, is concerned with the ordinary function of maintaining one’s own identity and that of others
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Apr 15
       
      I wonder how much of our cognitive load is spent maintaining (breaking down and building up) identity, the metabolism of identity?
  • Baumeister and Masicampo posit that interfacing between identities – both within a single mind, and between minds – is the purpose of conscious thought (Conscious Thought Is for Facilitating Social and Cultural Interactions: How Mental Simulations Serve the Animal–Culture Interface). And just as Rochat proposes that we are “constrained toward consciousness” by others, Kevin Simler says that we “infect” each other with personhood.
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Apr 15
       
      Three views of this social model of cognition: 1. Baumeister and Masicampo: conscious thought is the transport mechanism for moving between inner identity and outer identity. 2.Rochat: we become conscious because of others, 'constrained by folk' in order to be. 3. Simler: we infect each other with consciousness through the interaction of identity.
  • There is a profound irreconcilability or dissonance between first-and third-person perspectives on the self once objectified and valued. This dissonance shapes behaviors in crucial ways, as individuals try to reconcile their own and others’ putative representations about them. These two representational systems are always at some odds or in conflict, always in need of readjustment. It is so because these systems are open, and they do not share the same informational resources: direct, permanent, and embodied for the first-person perspective on the self; indirect, more fleeting, and disembodied for the third-person perspective on the self. A main property of this dissonance is that it tends to feed into itself and can reach overwhelming proportions in the life of individuals. More often than not, this dissonance is a major struggle, expressed in the nuisance of self-conscious behaviors that hinder creativity and the smooth “flow” of interpersonal exchanges. Others in Mind, p. 41
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Apr 15
       
      I have never seen the problem of identity so succinctly put.  And it explains why there is and can be no permanent solution to the conflict here except perhaps the meditative one of observing the breath and making that identity.
  • People are able to accomplish this feat of mutual simulation by use of two tools: language and ritual. Ritual allows for the communication of information that language can’t convey – hard-to-fake costly signals of commitment, dependability, harmoniousness, and cooperative intent.
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Apr 15
       
      So how do we play this infinite game of mutually modelling each other's identities to each the other? Language and ritual Language for the easy stuff and ritual for the hard stuff. So what are the #rhizo15 rituals?
  • If humans are somehow calibrated to expect a constant flow of social information, then the sparseness of ritual and social participation in modern environments might trigger a cascade of rumination.
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Apr 15
       
      The sparseness of ritual environment in rhizo15 is very painful to me.  The sparseness of feedback from language is just as painful, but the lack of ritual makes it even more so.  Dreadfully more so.  In fact I am on the edge of withdrawing all the time.  I think it is the ritual that will save me.
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Apr 15
       
      So bring on the salve of ritual to rhizo15.
  • A very simple example is greetings. “Greeting everyone you see” is a candidate for a ritual universal, a part of the ritual atmosphere that displays good fit with peopling
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Apr 15
       
      Ritual 1: greeting everyone, every day.
  • (with some caveats).
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Apr 15
       
      Ritual 2:"Serene Social Sloth Sunday, a made-up internet holiday in which we avoid posting "outrage porn" 
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Apr 15
       
      Ritual 3: Breaking Bread Together
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Apr 15
       
      Ritual 4:  Share natural spaces through YouTube, make part of any group meeting e.g. Hangout.  
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Apr 15
       
      Ritual 5: "With joy and zest, publicly celebrate milestones and recurring events. Affirming shared history, we nourish community, crystallize a sense of accomplishment, and build group identity by unifying our stories and common goals. Can be planned and ritualized, or as spontaneous as a group cheer."  Celebrate | Group Works. (n.d.). Retrieved April 19, 2015, from http://groupworksdeck.org/patterns/Celebrate
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Apr 15
       
      Ritual 6:  Feedforward with the imagination.  In other words project your self into the future and 'recall' all that 'happened' from the beginning of #rhizo15.  In a way I think this defines what rhizomatic learning is.  Each of us creates identity for the group by being who we are with the voices we have.  Why not imagine that forth along with others instead of relying solely upon the weekly proddings of one person identified as 'teacher/leader'.  Feedforwardings would allow us to compare rhizomatic identities. and from there decide where we might go as a group as well as individually.
  • Information about the self from the first-person perspective tends to be inflated and self-aggrandizing; information about the self from the third-person perspective, projected into the minds of others, tends to be deflated and self-deprecatory.
    • Kevin Hodgson
      Kevin Hodgson on 22 Apr 15
       
      Intriguing ...
  • A freeway is useful for getting from place to place, but it’s not a place to merely exist in the moment.
    • Kevin Hodgson
      Kevin Hodgson on 22 Apr 15
       
      Interesting, since the "internet highway" was an early metaphor for technology and online elements .. and now we are working on ways to slow down, be more reflective, plant flowers along the ugly underpasses of the freeway
  • “we’re here to fart around together.”
    • Kevin Hodgson
      Kevin Hodgson on 22 Apr 15
       
      Is this a motto of Rhizomatic Learning communities? Ha
  • In conclusion, drink tea, together with your friends; pay attention to the tea, and to your friends, and pay attention to your friends paying attention to the tea. Therein lies the meaning of life.
  • Vanessa Vaile on 20 Apr 15
     
    There are also linguistic differences...for example, the verb vs noun thing does not work the same in Spanish (and perhaps to some extent in other Romance languages as in English, where verbs are the power words. Syntax and the role of particles-prefixes are other factors.
Jaap Bosman

Choreographies of Becoming | Personal Research Blog - 0 views

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  • Jaap Bosman on 22 Apr 15
     
    This paper centers what I consider to be an important question: As educators in the 21st century, what is our ethical responsibility in relation to human technological subjectification? As digital technologies proliferate, thinking through the ethics of becoming-digital is of paramount importance for college student educators.
  • Jaap Bosman on 22 Apr 15
     
    about subjectification and socialization
Terry Elliott

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  • our morning meeting
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Jan 14
       
      The operative word is 'our'--rooting the class in tribal consciousness.  Growing a network of connections-known and unknown--in a emergent ecosystem.
  • Responsive Classroom
  • some of the activities start getting a little old, so I encourage my students to mess around with the rules once we’ve learned them and hack the activities as they see fit
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Jan 14
       
      This fits in beautifully with the discussion of cheating  this week in #rhizo14.  Fake/make/hack/unmake--seems like the normal pattern of mastery.  Once you have mastered the rules it seems as if one of the unwritten rules is to break them in order to see if they are still worth following.  Cheating is stress testing the system.  Seems almost biological.
    • Jaap Bosman
      Jaap Bosman on 19 Jan 14
       
      Always try to touch and watch what happens, all children do it, could be biology indeed. Trying to see what would happen if we do this?
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  • new terrain
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 19 Jan 14
       
      New terrain = common ground of play = ground rules?
Jaap Bosman

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rhizome assessment rhizo14 independent scaffolding

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  • Overcoming isolation
  • Active learning
  • Controlling learning behaviours
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  • Diagnosis and remediation
  • Student responsibility for learning
  • Teaching students how to make good questions for themselves, to ask them in ways that are going to lead to effective searching and learning,
  • Jaap Bosman on 20 Jan 14
     
    So i'm basically trying to give people something they can work with… a strategy rather than content… that can get them 'in the know' so that they can participate in the community effectively.
Terry Elliott

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  • don’t throw out your books
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 06 Feb 14
       
      Perhaps it is not the books themselves but the power we grant them just because they are books. There are lots of reasons why we did this: they were the best technology available for carrying information, they are the tools of power for status quo and revolutionary alike, they have are now the traditional, default method. Yet we are at the beginning of an age which has other methods that are even more ubiquitous. The mobile device is becoming preeminent because it not only carries words but also images, moving and static, and sounds, ours and others. It is immediate and easily reproducible.
  • Are we going to ignore or throw away our books and so throw away our history? Doesn’t our past inform our present and future?
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 06 Feb 14
       
      No, we are not going to do that, however we are going to put them in their place. To situate them in the power context, into their new community alongside images and sounds and the digital hierarchy of tools.
  • Iain MacGilchrist’s book – The Master and his Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World.
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 06 Feb 14
       
      I am a real fanboy of MacGilchrist's book. If you hadn't brought him up, I would have. ;-)
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  • he traces how the left hemisphere has grabbed more than its fair share of power
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 06 Feb 14
       
      Yes and what has been the instrument of that power grab--books. Cormier's distrust comes from the valorization of yet another master of the holist part of our mind. Books are colonizers aren't they?
  • We need books, but we also need to engage with them critically. We need text, but we also need to be able to see its limitations. We need abstraction, but we also need embodied learning. We need to exercise both the left and right hemispheres of our brains.
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 06 Feb 14
       
      I say give books the comeuppance they deserve. Who is the boss of the mind? Mine is reactionary sloganeering here, so let me be less molotov. I, meaning my whole self, am the boss, the master. I am weary of being told and of accepting as writ (holy irony that) that the written word is supreme. I find myself revolting (please no Henny Youngman jokes) against words by my frail attempts to use tools that are decidedly not books--zeega, vine, photography, video, soundcloud, augmented reality--to wrestle control from literacy and return to orality.
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 06 Feb 14
    • Terry Elliott
      Terry Elliott on 06 Feb 14
       
      On your side Scott would agree that it is not books who are at fault. Please let us not shoot the messenger. It is our use of books and our abdication to their organization, to their legibility that is our downfall.
  • Vanessa Vaile on 10 Feb 14
     
    Reader Response theory comes to mind here too. I see where this is both coming from and headed but my own attitude is, like anyone else's, still very much influenced by my personal reading history. I was an only child and, in a time when families moved much less than now, we moved often because of my father's work with a geophysical crew. I didn't spend entire school year in one place or even the same state until the 5th grade -- did not fall behind because my mother taught me to read early and my father made maths fun with cards, dice and dominoes. Add that all that up -- books spoke to me, were my family and friends. FYI Terry, my father was a storyteller and master punster
simonwarren

It's amazing what happens over coffee: or deterritoralising the curriculum (a #rhizo15 ... - 7 views

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  • coffee
    • Kevin Hodgson
      Kevin Hodgson on 17 Apr 15
       
      I am drinking coffee as I read this ... sort of drink symmetry going on right now ....
  • my first full academic year in the job
    • Kevin Hodgson
      Kevin Hodgson on 17 Apr 15
       
      I am curious if this newness is freeing or is it constricting? Can you try new things or are you expected to toe the line? I suppose it depends on the "boss man" in charge.
    • simonwarren
      simonwarren on 17 Apr 15
       
      Well, a mixture really.  It is 'my' course but that doesn't mean it is always viewed that way by those upstairs - this is a very small unit and can be claustrophobic at times.  Dealing with a bit of a culture of talking the talk but not necessarily walking the walk.  If you get what I mean.  It depends how assertive I wish to be.
  • My recent engagement with digital scholarship and #connectedlearning has propelled me to consider other options, and to think about how I might hack my own course, hybridise it.
    • Kevin Hodgson
      Kevin Hodgson on 17 Apr 15
       
      This is the heart of all this connected work ... how do we bring our explorations of learning in online spaces and adventures back into the classroom (unless you teach online courses, of course).
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  • sets of resources organised around difficult ideas
    • Kevin Hodgson
      Kevin Hodgson on 17 Apr 15
       
      I like this phrasing and the idea here ... of shifting the learning, as long as you don't focus on the tool/technology but on the learnings elements. Sometimes, the tech drives the learning, not the other way around. We want our students to have agency of exploration in their learning.
    • simonwarren
      simonwarren on 17 Apr 15
       
      This year we used the closed box of the institutional VLE to do some of this work but I want to push this further by using more open platforms and ask participants to find their own materials. The assessment will have to be tweaked to facilitate this.
  • have shorter workshops that model many of the ideas we promote
    • Kevin Hodgson
      Kevin Hodgson on 17 Apr 15
       
      This might up the engagement factor. I think a few folks from Connected Courses are tinkering with collective design of curriculum, right? Of allowing students to have a say in the learning. This is what Dave is doing with us. I think.
    • simonwarren
      simonwarren on 17 Apr 15
       
      The 'time' allocated to 'teaching' sessions is driven by the Bologna process (Tuning in N.America) and 'European Credit and Accumulation Transfer System' which usually gets reduced to 'time on task' rather than learning.  We can play with this though
  • Emergent objectives could become points for reflecting on what the course should be dealing with, what the difficult ideas and issues are, and therefore the content required.
  • I am after all a final arbiter, the one who, institutionally, is responsible for assessment
    • Kevin Hodgson
      Kevin Hodgson on 17 Apr 15
       
      Always a struggle, no matter the age of student (says the sixth grade teacher).
  • working with the play of smooth and striated space.
    • Kevin Hodgson
      Kevin Hodgson on 17 Apr 15
       
      Thanks for the deep thinking ...
  • Also, could we introduce aspects of peer review?
    • Sarah Honeychurch
      Sarah Honeychurch on 17 Apr 15
       
      I always like peer review
  • @davecormier
    • Sarah Honeychurch
      Sarah Honeychurch on 17 Apr 15
       
      It was me actually :)
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