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mariakanarakis

An Introduction to the Orthodox Christian Understanding of Free Will - 0 views

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  • Some have said that man is a machine, who must follow the laws ofhis nature; therefore, he is  neither free to choose between good and evil (whatever they are) nor even between things. Even if he could overcome the laws of nature, he would, as some ancient Greeks said, be subject to "fate" (moira, eir mene) whose decisions must be fulfilled. Thus, choice is a delusion.
  • "predestination," that is, before the creation of the world, God decided who would live with Him forever, and those who would dwell in penal fire for eternity
    • mariakanarakis
      mariakanarakis on 10 May 12
       
      Predestination= fate, destiny When they say God decided who would live, they mean go to heaven, and those who would dwell in penal Fire are the ones who go to hell
  • predestination
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  • Materialists have postulated that man is a soulless machine and subject to the laws of nature.  Freedom is an illusion. We eat what we eat, think what we think, live as we live, according to the iron laws of the universe.
    • mariakanarakis
      mariakanarakis on 10 May 12
       
      By laws of nature they mean: not choosing between good and evil
  • The 18th century philosopher, Immanuel Kant, said that not only must we believe that man is free, but also he has an immortal soul, and that God exists. The idea of freedom cannot exist without the idea of God and immortality. Without such beliefs, the happy life and civilization are impossible.
    • mariakanarakis
      mariakanarakis on 10 May 12
       
      This is the opposite side of the materialist's one.
  • In the words of Nicholas Berdayaev, "Man is an enigmatic  being because he is not the product of natural processes, but is the child of freedom which  springs from the abyss of non-being. "
  • Man possesses a divine element within him and, therefore, he is free, with the power to create beauty, to do good, to love justice. Certainly, man's body is controlled by the strictures of time and space, but his spirit is free to transcend all the laws of his finite nature. His spirit takes him where his body cannot go.
  • What does the Orthodox Church teach about free will? None of the above. She has never been concerned about the so-called discoveries of human reason. Rather she trusts the sacred Scriptures and her holy Fathers.
  • We are limited -- - not  paralyzed --- by our nature, the force of circumstance, the laws of Nature.
  • free will does not mean the ability to do whatever we want.
  • we are restricted by the passions. The passions limit the scope of our choices.
  • Freedom involves deliberation. Ignorance is an excuse only for them who have no ability or opportunity to learn
  • Augustine of Hippo taught that
  • there are matters entirely beyond our control, such as those things which God has  reserved for Himself only God has autarkeia or is self-sufficient, absolutely independent; only God is autexousios or complete "self-authority", "self-power", without any authority over Him.
  • How does the Church define "free will"?
  • two meanings
  • It is the  ability to choose between good and evil and between one thing and another. In every choice  there is the risk of sin, unless we call upon the Grace of God to aid« us.
  • our choices always involve  the power to choose between good and evil.
  • our liberty is restricted by ignorance.
  • impossible for us to choose between good and evil and, therefore, to take any part in our salvation
  • "original sin"
  • The liberty of Christians differs from the liberty of the unbeliever, he who is outside the influence of God's saving Grace.
  • choice depends upon knowledge; and upon the knowledge of God's Revelation, which presents the greatest number of choices.
  • with the knowledge of God comes the knowledge of the good and, by implication, the knowledge of evil; and, consequently, the possibility to choose between them. Without that knowledge and the choices that result from them, we are left with no explanation for human existence except fate or predestination, some unknown destiny. Understanding  ourselves this way, is to deprive human choice and action of all meaning Worse, if there were a  God, we would need to blame him for all evil. Not even the devil, if one existed! , could be held  responsible for his conduct.
    • mariakanarakis
      mariakanarakis on 10 May 12
       
      FINAL conclusion
  • mariakanarakis on 10 May 12
     
    An Introduction to the Orthodox Christian understanding of free will
Chrissy Le

Torture - 0 views

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  • Chrissy Le on 02 Nov 10
     
    Torture: An act by which severe pain and/or suffering is caused, either physically or mentally. It is usually put into action when wanting to bring out a confession, or information in another individual. It has also been used as a form of punishment in the past and is still in use today (to a certain extent). Today, torture is prohibited under international law and the domestic laws of most countries. The method of torturing has been proven to be effective and of use. This website speaks about the definition of torture, the laws against it and what it means in various religions (What purpose it serves). The link will bring you to the different methods of torture that had been used in the past to how it serves us today.
mira ahmad

CBC News - Canada - The fight for the right to die - 1 views

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  • If I cannot give consent to my own death, whose body is this? Who owns my life?
    • mira ahmad
      mira ahmad on 20 Nov 10
       
      This quote said by Ms. Rodriguez states that she is in charge of her own body and should be allowed to make her own decisions. Why should the law overpower her personal decisions that affect her?
  • In Canada, as in most countries, assisted suicide is illegal. But there seems to be a growing movement toward changing the law in many parts of the world.
    • mira ahmad
      mira ahmad on 20 Nov 10
       
      The Netherlands, Belgium and Switzerland are the only countries where euthanasia are permitted. In Canada, one who commits assisted suicide can get up to 14 years in prison.
  • individuals should be able to control the time and circumstances of their own death
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  • The Criminal Code of Canada outlaws suicide assistance, with penalties of up to 14 years in prison
  • mira ahmad on 20 Nov 10
     
    Sue Rodriguez was diagnosed with Lou Gehrig's disease, a fatal and painful disease. She fought to the Supreme Court of Canada to obtain the right to commit assisted suicide, but lost twice. She ended up committing assisted suicide with the help of an anonymous physician.
  • Catherine Delisle on 24 Nov 10
     
    This website is very credible. It also contains a lot of information. What I really like about it is the fact that it not only gives you an example to prove your point, but it also contains a lot of points to build a case for euthanasia. This website pointed some of the most interesting points for your case, which will help me refute during our debate.
  • sara tsapekis on 24 Nov 10
     
    I really like this website, because it gave a couple personal situations involving euthanasia, which allowed me to understand why someone might want euthanasia to be legal. The site also contains a lot of information including what the law in Canada and the U.S. was for euthanasia, and clearly explained why it is an issue. There are aspects in the text that favor euthanasia and others that explain why it should not be legal.
Matthew Schaffer

The ideas of Karma and Fate. A "free will inviolability" as a fundamental law of Creation - 0 views

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  • mistakes a man has committed in his life may allegedly throw him back, and he may reincarnate as an animal.
    • Matthew Schaffer
      Matthew Schaffer on 09 May 12
       
      Believing that if we do bad things in our life may make us re-birth as an animal is very interesting? I don't see here why to them being an animal is so bad. What does the animal symbolize to them?
  • If something is going on in this world, it means that some system stands necessarily behind this,
    • Matthew Schaffer
      Matthew Schaffer on 09 May 12
       
      Here they are saying, in simpler terms, that everything has a force. Everything that happens in the world is made by some "system" which is behind it. So, this is saying that things can and will happen no matter what, confirming their belief in fate. 
  • a man has to know his mistakes for himself
    • Matthew Schaffer
      Matthew Schaffer on 09 May 12
       
      It begins to talk about Karma here, however this was not the assignment it is still interesting. What they say about Karma is that man needs to be aware of the mistakes that they have made and try to fix it, and then move on. 
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  • The fate is a possibility to choose freely your own Past and your own Future.
    • Matthew Schaffer
      Matthew Schaffer on 09 May 12
       
      The Easterners definition of Fate is the possibility to choose your own past, and your own future. This meaning that in a way, man can choose and create their own fate. I agree with this, because after what they said about Karma, it is clear to me that they believe that everything is because of man. 
  • a possibility of this free choice of his own fate is not always available because of karma of all the civilization.
    • Matthew Schaffer
      Matthew Schaffer on 09 May 12
       
      Here they say that Fate may not always be possible. I think because someone may want a certain fate, but because of their strong belief in Karma, Karma will get in the way of their Fate
Marie-Lise Pagé

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Fate - 0 views

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  • for its meaning as the prime cause of events is better expressed by the term Divine Providence
  • If anyone calls the influence or the power of God by the name of Fate, let him keep his opinion, but mend his speech."
  • Fate, in its popular meaning, is something opposed to chance, in so far as the latter term implies a cause acting according to no fixed laws.
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  • rules the destinies
  • find a cause for events which appeared to follow no definite law and to be the result of mere chance
michelle tappert

against euthanasia - 2 views

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  • michelle tappert on 08 Dec 10
     
    pay special attention to the examples that will help show how euthanasia is not right. Example 1: an elderly person in a nursing home, who can barely understand a breakfast menu, is asked to sign a form consenting to be killed. Is this voluntary or involuntary? Will they be protected by the law? How? Right now the overall prohibition on killing stands in the way. Once one signature can sign away a person's life, what can be as strong a protection as the current absolute prohibition on direct killing? Answer: nothing. Example 2: a woman is suffering from depresssion and asks to be helped to commit suicide. One doctor sets up a practice to "help" such people. She and anyone who wants to die knows he will approve any such request. He does thousands a year for $200 each. How does the law protect people from him? Does it specify that a doctor can only approve 50 requests a year? 100? 150? If you don't think there are such doctors, just look at recent stories of doctors and nurses who are charged with murder for killing dozens or hundreds of patients.
Daryl Bambic

The Republic, by Plato - 0 views

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Plato Republic

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  • He was the greatest metaphysical genius whom the world has seen; and in him, more than in any other ancient thinker, the germs of future knowledge are contained. The sciences of logic and psychology, which have supplied so many instruments of thought to after-ages, are based upon the analyses of Socrates and Plato
  • The principles of definition, the law of contradiction, the fallacy of arguing in a circle, the distinction between the essence and accidents of a thing or notion, between means and ends, between causes and conditions; also the division of the mind into the rational, concupiscent, and irascible elements, or of pleasures and desires into necessary and unnecessary—these and other great forms of thought are all of them to be found in the Republic, and were probably first invented by Plato.
  • The argument of the Republic is the search after Justice
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  • The first care of the rulers is to be education
  • conception of a higher State, in which 'no man calls anything his own
  • 'marrying nor giving in marriage,
  • 'kings are philosophers' and 'philosophers are kings;
  • Daryl Bambic on 06 Feb 12
     
    The e-version of Plato's Republic. 
Daryl Bambic

Philosophy News | 5 Reasons Why I Love Philosophy - 0 views

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  • Privacy
  • Philosophy teaches us to think about, contemplate, and clearly express the fundamental concepts of life. It explicitly identifies ideas that we have been thinking and living all along.
  • Philosophy begins in wonder and wonder bears fruit when it results in philosophical analysis
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  • life is not simple and philosophy helps both unpack the complexity and provide a way through it. Just reading about the problem of universals and seeing the different philosophical views about it throughout history has given me a greater appreciation for what it means to exist
  • do not get too comfortable with simple answers.
  • To the theist, God is ultimate reality and His nature and commands ought to be a fundamental consideration in how she makes decisions
  • Civil and criminal law rely heavily upon what someone knows and how this affected their actions
  • (logic) is essential to interacting with our own and other’s ideas. Reasoning properly is an example of logic in action
  • Morality is a daily concern in lif
  • s highly pragmatic when applied properly.
  • The reasoning and analytical abilities acquired from analyzing complex ideas and arguments are essential in a number of other of fields.
  • strong verbal and writing skills
  • is not an intellectual magic wand
  • carefully
  • humility and tentativeness,
  • seeks truth,
  • r self-deception
  • Daryl Bambic on 26 Jan 14
     
    "Privacy"
Kelsey Adams

Correctional Service Canada- Torture Laws - 3 views

www.csc-scc.gc.ca/...im4630-02-eng.shtml

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  • Kelsey Adams on 03 Nov 10
     
    In this text we learn how Canada has strict rules against the torture of prisoners. The government believes that no matter what, we must respect the dignity of a human being and that no cruel punishments should ever be brought upon prisoners. There is said to be no international treaty that deals exclusively with the treatment of prisoners and the conditions of incarceration but one of the more known and respected instrument that deals with the rights of these criminals is the Standard Minimum Rules for the Treatment of Prisoners.
  • mira ahmad on 03 Nov 10
     
    Kelsey, This text is pretty interesting because while reading it, I learned a lot about Canada's correctional service system. I know about the basics but some things were explained in detail and I learned things that I never knew before. Now I will be able to link specific cases with our correctional system and get a better understanding!
Catherine Delisle

Non-religious arguments against Euthanasia - 3 views

www.starcourse.org/euthanasia.htm

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    • Catherine Delisle
      Catherine Delisle on 24 Nov 10
       
      This very credible web page is rich in arguments and has many clear and simple points that are very direct. There are a few points that I thought were more important than others. The first point was that assisting suicide was goes against law and public morality, which means that it is against social values. Also, they mentioned that if someone really wants to die, it may be "due to depression or misapprehension of their prognosis". Euthanasia is also irreversible. Some people can act on things while going through a tough time in their lives. Not only that, but euthenasia would create social pressures on vulnerable people. Euthenasia would also ruin relationships between elders and their children. Often, elders are seen as a burden, and with the option of euthanasia, they will feel pressured not to be a burden anymore. Lastly, the relationship between the doctor and the patient would be ruined. Patients would be afraid that they would be euthanised against their will, which is a real situation in Holland.
  • sara tsapekis on 24 Nov 10
     
    This website is straight to the point, and I like that it gives the reasons in point form, making the reading easy to understand. Many reasons given in the website are justifiable. The first reason, for example, which was that legalizing killing undermines public morality, is a very strong point.
  • sydney goldman on 30 Nov 10
     
    I think that this site is extremely easy to understand and makes some really good strong points against euthanasia that are not easily argued. it shows points from different aspects like health reasons, moral reasons, governmental reasons etc... all of these form a nice barrier that covers all of the possible argument that the other team will make.
Daryl Bambic

The Internet Classics Archive | Symposium by Plato - 14 views

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    • Daryl Bambic
      Daryl Bambic on 05 Feb 15
       
      Context: The group is deciding how they will drink given the excessive partying from the previous night.
    • Nick Adoranti
      Nick Adoranti on 05 Feb 15
       
      Hiya
    • Eric Bensoussan
      Eric Bensoussan on 05 Feb 15
       
      Im surprised that philosophers drank so much
    • hebaali1998
      hebaali1998 on 05 Feb 15
       
      How can you have a philosophical conversation while being intoxicated? 
  • entirely has this great deity been neglected." Now in this Phaedrus seems to me to be quite right, and therefore I want to offer him a contribution; also I think that at the present moment we who are here assembled cannot do better than honour the. god Love
  • Let Phaedrus begin the praise of Love,
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    • Daryl Bambic
      Daryl Bambic on 05 Feb 15
       
      The dinner party decides they are going to take turn giving speeches in praise of Love.
  • Love is the eldest and noblest and mightiest of the gods; and the chiefest author and giver of virtue in life, and of happiness after death.
  • Phaedrus
  • encouragement which all the world gives to the lover;
  • Such is the entire liberty which gods and men have allowed the lover, according to the custom which prevails in our part of the world.
    • Daryl Bambic
      Daryl Bambic on 05 Feb 15
       
      We have a custom of forgiving unreasonable behaviour when people are in love.
  • Evil is the vulgar lover who loves the body rather than the soul, inasmuch as he is not even stable, because he loves a thing which is in itself unstable, and therefore when the bloom of youth which he was desiring is over, he takes wing and flies away, in spite of all his words and promises; whereas the love of the noble disposition is life-long, for it becomes one with the everlasting
    • Daryl Bambic
      Daryl Bambic on 05 Feb 15
       
      Basically, he said that people who love for physical attraction and evil and vulgar because their love is cheap and disappear when youth's beauty fades.
  • Pausanias
  • Eryximachus
  • rightly distinguished two kinds of love
  • harmony is composed of differing notes
  • harmonious love of one another and blend in temperance and harmony,
  • Aristophanes
  • Mankind; he said, judging by their neglect of him, have never, as I think, at all understood the power of Love
  • original human nature was not like the present, but different. The sexes were not two as they are now, but originally three in number; there was man, woman, and the union of the two, having a name corresponding to this double nature, which had once a real existence, but is now lost, and the word "Androgynous
  • sexes were three, and such as I have described them; because the sun, moon, and earth are three;
  • will restore us to our original state, and heal us and make us happy and blessed.
    • Daryl Bambic
      Daryl Bambic on 05 Feb 15
       
      Love is about finding our true nature in another and in so doing, becoming whole.
  • Agathon
  • ut I would rather praise the god first, and then speak of his gifts; this is always the right way of praising everything.
  • flexibility and symmetry of form
  • beauty of the god
  • virtue I have now to speak: his greatest glory is that he can neither do nor suffer wrong to or from any god or any man
    • Daryl Bambic
      Daryl Bambic on 05 Feb 15
       
      Love cannot be forced as it is an act of freedom.
  • ll men in all things serve him of their own free will, and where there is voluntary agreement
  • courage and justice and temperance I have spoken, but I have yet to speak of his wisdom-
  • for I do not praise in that way; no, indeed, I cannot. But if you like to here the truth about love, I am ready to speak in my own manner, though I will not make myself ridiculous by entering into any rivalry with you. Say then, Phaedrus, whether you would like, to have the truth about love, spoken in any words and in any order which may happen to come into my mind at the time. Will that be agreeable to you?
    • Daryl Bambic
      Daryl Bambic on 05 Feb 15
       
      Socrates here says that he cannot praise Love the way Phaedrus does (because he said it all and laid all manner of claims of Love). 
  • Socrates then proceeded as follows:-
    • Daryl Bambic
      Daryl Bambic on 05 Feb 15
       
      An example of the famous Socratic method is about to unfold...
  • Is Love of something or of nothing?
  • The inference that he who desires something is in want of something, and that he who desires nothing is in want of nothing, is in my judgment,
    • Daryl Bambic
      Daryl Bambic on 05 Feb 15
       
      Socrates gets Agathon to agree with his claim that we desire that which we don't possess OR that which we are not.
  • nd yet, added Socrates, if a man being strong desired to be strong, or being swift desired to be swift, or being healthy desired to be healthy, in that case he might be thought to desire something which he already has or is. I give the example in order that we may avoid misconception. For the possessors of these qualities, Agathon, must be supposed to have their respective advantages at the time, whether they choose or not; and who can desire that which he has? Therefore when a person says, I am well and wish to be well, or I am rich and wish to be rich, and I desire simply to have what I have-to him we shall reply: "You, my friend, having wealth and health and strength, want to have the continuance of them; for at this moment, whether you choose or no, you have them. And when you say, I desire that which I have and nothing else, is not your meaning that you want to have what you now have in the future?
  • Then he and every one who desires, desires that which he has not already, and which is future and not present, and which he has not, and is not, and of which he is in want;
  • First, is not love of something, and of something too which is wanting to a man
  • Love is the love of beauty and not of deformity
  • Then Love wants and has not beauty?
  • Is not the good also the beautiful?
  • Then in wanting the beautiful, love wants also the good?
  • Diotima of Mantineia
  • Love was neither fair nor good.
  • is love then evil and foul?
  • must that be foul which is not fair?
  • And is that which is not wise, ignoran
  • a mean between wisdom and ignorance?
    • Daryl Bambic
      Daryl Bambic on 05 Feb 15
       
      Diotima shows Socrates that there is a mid point between extremes; she avoids the 'either-or' trap.
  • ou also deny the divinity of Love.
  • What then is Love?" I asked; "Is he mortal?
  • he is neither mortal nor immortal, but in a mean between the two." "What is he, Diotima?" "He is a great spirit (daimon),
  • e interprets," she replied, "between gods and men
  • For God mingles not with man; but through Love
  • god Poros or Plenty
  • son of Metis or Discretion
  • Poverty,
  • always poor
  • nything but tender and fai
  • rough and squalid
  • no shoes, nor a house to dwell in;
  • is always in distress.
  • But that which is always flowing in is always flowing out, and so he is never in want and never in wealth;
  • he is in a mean between ignorance and knowledge. The truth of the matter is this
  • god is a philosopher. or seeker after wisdom, for he is wise already;
  • neither good nor wise is nevertheless satisfied with himself: he has no desire for that of which he feels no want."
    • Daryl Bambic
      Daryl Bambic on 05 Feb 15
       
      He who is neither 'good nor wise' is satisfied with himself because he does not desire that which he is not aware that he lacks.
  • ho then, Diotima," I said, "are the lovers of wisdom, if they are neither the wise nor the foolish?" "A child may answer that question," she replied; "they are those who are in a mean between the two; Love is one of them.
  • what is the use of him to men?
  • of the beautiful. But some one will say: Of the beautiful in what, Socrates and Diotima?-or rather let me put the question more dearly, and ask: When a man loves the beautiful, what does he desire?
  • hat the beautiful may be h
  • rther questio
  • Let me put the word 'good' in the place of the beautiful, and repeat the question once more: If he who loves good, what is it then that he loves?
  • And what does he gain who possesses the good
  • generally as the love of the everlasting possession of the good?" "That is most true."
  • "Then if this be the nature of love, can you tell me further," she said, "what is the manner of the pursuit? what are they doing who show all this eagerness and heat which is called love? and what is the object which they have in view?
  • hat all men are bringing to the birth in their bodies and in their souls.
  • onception and generation are an immortal principle in the mortal creature, and in the inharmonious they can never be.
  • The love of generation and of birth in beauty."
  • mortal creature, generation is a sort of eternity and immortality
  • love is of the everlasting possession of the good, all men will necessarily desire immortality together with good: Wherefore love is of immortality."
  • hy should animals have these passionate feeling
  • Marvel not," she said, "if you believe that love is of the immortal, as we have several times acknowledged; for here again, and on the same principle too, the mortal nature is seeking as far as is possible to be everlasting and immortal: and this is only to be attained by generation, because generation always leaves behind a new existence in the place of the old.
  • Marvel not then at the love which all men have of their offspring; for that universal love and interest is for the sake of immortality."
  • even to die, for the sake of leaving behind them a name which shall be eternal.
  • will preserve their memory and giving them the blessedness and immortality
  • But souls which are pregnant-for there certainly are men who are more creative in their souls than in their bodies conceive that which is proper for the soul to conceive or contain. And what are these conceptions?-wisdom and virtue in general.
  • oets and all artists
  • temperance and justice
  • he who would proceed aright in this matter should begin in youth to visit beautiful forms; and first, if he be guided by his instructor aright, to love one such form only-out of that he should create fair thoughts; and soon he will of himself perceive that the beauty of one form is akin to the beauty of another; and then if beauty of form in general is his pursuit, how foolish would he be not to recognize that the beauty in every form is and the same!
  • become a lover of all beautiful form
  • beauty of the mind is more honourable than the beauty of the outward form.
  • birth thoughts
  • mprove the youn
  • beauty of institutions and laws,
  • and that the beauty of them all is of one famil
  • ersonal beauty is a trifle;
  • sciences, tha
  • who has learned to see the beautiful in due order and succession,
  • oward the end will suddenly perceive a nature of wondrous beauty
  • everlasting,
  • rowing and decaying, or waxing and waning; s
    • Daryl Bambic
      Daryl Bambic on 05 Feb 15
       
      At the end of life, the one who has pursued beauty will perceive its true eternal nature.
  • not fair in one point of view and foul in another
  • ut beauty absolute, separate, simple, and everlasting, which without diminution and without increase, or any change,
  • begins to perceive that beauty, is not far from the end.
  • And the true order of going, or being led by another, to the things of love, is to begin from the beauties of earth and mount upwards for the sake of that other beauty, using these as steps only, and from one going on to two, and from two to all fair forms, and from fair forms to fair practices, and from fair practices to fair notions, until from fair notions he arrives at the notion of absolute beauty, and at last knows what the essence of beauty is.
    • Daryl Bambic
      Daryl Bambic on 05 Feb 15
       
      The true order of discovering love and beauty; first of the body and the individual and then ascending upwards to the idea of absolute beauty itself.
  • beholding beauty with the eye of the mind, he will be enabled to bring forth, not images of beauty, but realities (for he has hold not of an image but of a reality), and bringing forth and nourishing true virtue to become the friend of God and be immortal, if mortal man may. Would that be an ignoble life?"
    • Daryl Bambic
      Daryl Bambic on 05 Feb 15
       
      Beholding beauty with the eye of the mind.
  • nature of Love first
  • Whether love is the love of something or of nothing?
  • whether Love desires that of which love is.
Daryl Bambic

Mutable Morality, Not Subjective Morality. Moral Pluralism, Not Moral Relativism. - 0 views

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  • ointing out but wrongly calling “subjectivity”.To say that not only do moralities change but that they should and that even good moralities may not be permanently and at all times good is not to say that morality is subjective
  • Morality, even if mutable, need not be just a matter of arbitrary feelings or tastes that admit of no argument for persuading those who happen to feel differently.
  • good moral judgments
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  • some important extent context
  • dependent.
  • change with different circumstances.  
  • valid measures of human flourishing.
  • broadly definable human goods
  • ntellectual power,
  • ocial organization and cohesion, artistic prowess, physical health, athletic prowess, aesthetic sensitivity and complexity, technological capability, technological achievement, emotional satisfaction, pleasure, political efficiency, virtues,
  • moral pluralism, not relativism.
  • Moral pluralism acknowledges that differing moralities, which in particulars may formally contradict each other, can each be ethically approvable given variations in circumstances or given their respective abilities to meet certain thresholds of valuable contribution to life.
    • Daryl Bambic
      Daryl Bambic on 18 Feb 15
       
      Moral pluralism allows for cross cultural (different) standards of morality.
  • Moral relativism would allow for no cross-cultural assessments but would say that the only standard a morality has or needs is the endorsement of a particular individual or culture
  • ocial scientist’s perspecti
  • hilosophical,
  • hat values are best and what moral codes best realize them.
  • onstitute human flourishing and happiness.
  • if we have enough historical understandin
  • Old Testament morality
  • as in its own time the best and most progressive advance for the people who adopted it
  • ays it failed a
  • dismiss the Old Testament as irrelevant to a contemporary context.
  • t is also wholly unpersuasive to claim, as some try, that God’s values have always been the same even as he has given his people moral codes that fit their times or their understanding at each of their stages
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