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Matthew Schaffer

The ideas of Karma and Fate. A "free will inviolability" as a fundamental law of Creation - 0 views

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  • mistakes a man has committed in his life may allegedly throw him back, and he may reincarnate as an animal.
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      Matthew Schaffer on 09 May 12
       
      Believing that if we do bad things in our life may make us re-birth as an animal is very interesting? I don't see here why to them being an animal is so bad. What does the animal symbolize to them?
  • If something is going on in this world, it means that some system stands necessarily behind this,
    • Matthew Schaffer
      Matthew Schaffer on 09 May 12
       
      Here they are saying, in simpler terms, that everything has a force. Everything that happens in the world is made by some "system" which is behind it. So, this is saying that things can and will happen no matter what, confirming their belief in fate. 
  • a man has to know his mistakes for himself
    • Matthew Schaffer
      Matthew Schaffer on 09 May 12
       
      It begins to talk about Karma here, however this was not the assignment it is still interesting. What they say about Karma is that man needs to be aware of the mistakes that they have made and try to fix it, and then move on. 
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  • The fate is a possibility to choose freely your own Past and your own Future.
    • Matthew Schaffer
      Matthew Schaffer on 09 May 12
       
      The Easterners definition of Fate is the possibility to choose your own past, and your own future. This meaning that in a way, man can choose and create their own fate. I agree with this, because after what they said about Karma, it is clear to me that they believe that everything is because of man. 
  • a possibility of this free choice of his own fate is not always available because of karma of all the civilization.
    • Matthew Schaffer
      Matthew Schaffer on 09 May 12
       
      Here they say that Fate may not always be possible. I think because someone may want a certain fate, but because of their strong belief in Karma, Karma will get in the way of their Fate
Marie-Lise Pagé

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Fate - 0 views

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  • for its meaning as the prime cause of events is better expressed by the term Divine Providence
  • If anyone calls the influence or the power of God by the name of Fate, let him keep his opinion, but mend his speech."
  • Fate, in its popular meaning, is something opposed to chance, in so far as the latter term implies a cause acting according to no fixed laws.
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  • rules the destinies
  • find a cause for events which appeared to follow no definite law and to be the result of mere chance
mariakanarakis

An Introduction to the Orthodox Christian Understanding of Free Will - 0 views

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  • Some have said that man is a machine, who must follow the laws ofhis nature; therefore, he is  neither free to choose between good and evil (whatever they are) nor even between things. Even if he could overcome the laws of nature, he would, as some ancient Greeks said, be subject to "fate" (moira, eir mene) whose decisions must be fulfilled. Thus, choice is a delusion.
  • "predestination," that is, before the creation of the world, God decided who would live with Him forever, and those who would dwell in penal fire for eternity
    • mariakanarakis
      mariakanarakis on 10 May 12
       
      Predestination= fate, destiny When they say God decided who would live, they mean go to heaven, and those who would dwell in penal Fire are the ones who go to hell
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  • Materialists have postulated that man is a soulless machine and subject to the laws of nature.  Freedom is an illusion. We eat what we eat, think what we think, live as we live, according to the iron laws of the universe.
    • mariakanarakis
      mariakanarakis on 10 May 12
       
      By laws of nature they mean: not choosing between good and evil
  • The 18th century philosopher, Immanuel Kant, said that not only must we believe that man is free, but also he has an immortal soul, and that God exists. The idea of freedom cannot exist without the idea of God and immortality. Without such beliefs, the happy life and civilization are impossible.
    • mariakanarakis
      mariakanarakis on 10 May 12
       
      This is the opposite side of the materialist's one.
  • In the words of Nicholas Berdayaev, "Man is an enigmatic  being because he is not the product of natural processes, but is the child of freedom which  springs from the abyss of non-being. "
  • Man possesses a divine element within him and, therefore, he is free, with the power to create beauty, to do good, to love justice. Certainly, man's body is controlled by the strictures of time and space, but his spirit is free to transcend all the laws of his finite nature. His spirit takes him where his body cannot go.
  • What does the Orthodox Church teach about free will? None of the above. She has never been concerned about the so-called discoveries of human reason. Rather she trusts the sacred Scriptures and her holy Fathers.
  • We are limited -- - not  paralyzed --- by our nature, the force of circumstance, the laws of Nature.
  • free will does not mean the ability to do whatever we want.
  • we are restricted by the passions. The passions limit the scope of our choices.
  • Freedom involves deliberation. Ignorance is an excuse only for them who have no ability or opportunity to learn
  • Augustine of Hippo taught that
  • there are matters entirely beyond our control, such as those things which God has  reserved for Himself only God has autarkeia or is self-sufficient, absolutely independent; only God is autexousios or complete "self-authority", "self-power", without any authority over Him.
  • How does the Church define "free will"?
  • two meanings
  • It is the  ability to choose between good and evil and between one thing and another. In every choice  there is the risk of sin, unless we call upon the Grace of God to aid« us.
  • our choices always involve  the power to choose between good and evil.
  • our liberty is restricted by ignorance.
  • impossible for us to choose between good and evil and, therefore, to take any part in our salvation
  • "original sin"
  • The liberty of Christians differs from the liberty of the unbeliever, he who is outside the influence of God's saving Grace.
  • choice depends upon knowledge; and upon the knowledge of God's Revelation, which presents the greatest number of choices.
  • with the knowledge of God comes the knowledge of the good and, by implication, the knowledge of evil; and, consequently, the possibility to choose between them. Without that knowledge and the choices that result from them, we are left with no explanation for human existence except fate or predestination, some unknown destiny. Understanding  ourselves this way, is to deprive human choice and action of all meaning Worse, if there were a  God, we would need to blame him for all evil. Not even the devil, if one existed! , could be held  responsible for his conduct.
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      mariakanarakis on 10 May 12
       
      FINAL conclusion
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    An Introduction to the Orthodox Christian understanding of free will
Marie-Lise Pagé

Dictionary : FATE - Catholic Culture - 0 views

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  • it is the belief that events constitute a chain of causes and effects with absolute determinism
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