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Shana Thomas

South Ossetia News - Breaking World South Ossetia News - The New York Times - 0 views

    • Shana Thomas
       
      This shows that if Russia feels threatened they WILL attack Georgia with force; They even occupied part of Georgia's N. land...
    • Shana Thomas
       
      So, Russia supports South Ossetia as an independent country because it borders Georgia and if needed Russia can use South Ossetia to get into Georgia
  • On July 14, 2009, the Russian president, Dmitri A. Medvedev, made a surprise visit to breakaway South Ossetia, inspecting a new Russian military base there and promising citizens that Russia would rebuild neighborhoods destroyed during the brief war between Russia and Georgia
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    • Shana Thomas
       
      Russia just being nice to South Ossetia in order to use them if necessary 
  • t falls within the borders of Georgia but has been all but independent since fighting broke out in the early 1990's, after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Whatever vestige of control Georgia had it lost in a short war in August 2008, in which its forces were routed by Russian troops. Afterward, it was recognized by Russia as a sovereign nation, a designation not supported by most of the rest of the international community.
  • Russia has supported South Ossetia and another breakaway region, Abkhazia, as quasi-satellites
  • 2005 Georgia's president, Mikheil Saakashvili offered significant autonomy and economic development to South Ossetia if it renounced independence.
  • In 2008, tensions between Georgia and Russia rose steadily and during the summer artillery fire was exchanged across the South Ossetian border. On August 7th the Georgian military launched an assault on the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali, claiming that they were forestalling a Russian invasion. In the event, a massive Russian invasion soon followed, and the Georgians were not only driven from Tskhinvali, but lost control of the approaches to Abkhazia and, for a time, large swaths of its own northern territory.
Caroline Yevak

Russia and Georgia: South Ossetia is not Kosovo | The Economist - 0 views

  • WITH a flourish, Russia this week recognised the “independ
  • ence” of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, the enclaves that gave it a casus belli for its war on Georgia
  • The Russians saw it as a logical outcome of their victory, a further stage in their confrontation with the West—and a copy of what happened in Kosovo. As Russia’s president, Dmitry Medvedev, argued, “you cannot have one rule for some and another rule for others.”
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  • Never mind that Russia is itself being incoherent in continuing to insist that Kosovo’s independence from Serbia is still illegal
  • NATO’s air war on Kosovo and Serbia in 1999 was, like the Iraq war in 2003, conducted without the legal approval of the United Nations.
  • Last February’s recognition by many Western countries of Kosovo’s independence from Serbia again lacked formal UN blessing (thanks to Russia’s threatened veto).
  • Serbia’s Slobodan Milosevic long oppressed the Kosovo Albanians, as well as perpetrating war and ethnic cleansing right across former Yugoslavia. But it was the Georgians who ended up as the bigger victims of ethnic cleansing in Abkhazia in the 1990s, and have been again in South Ossetia in the past three weeks.
  • Motive provides an even clearer difference. Throughout the 1990s the Americans and Europeans were extremely reluctant to get involved in the Balkans.
  • After Milosevic’s withdrawal from Kosovo in 1999, the main role of the UN and NATO forces in the province was to protect the Serb minority and Serb religious sites. The Western powers devoted years to negotiations over the province’s future, culminating in UN-led talks under Martti Ahtisaari, a former Finnish president. Only when these failed, again thanks mainly to Russian intransigence, did Kosovo’s unilateral independence become inevitable.
  • Russia has nakedly pursued its own interests in the Caucasus. It did its utmost to provoke Mr Saakashvili into a fight. Its “peacekeepers” have made no pretence of protecting minorities in Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
  • The difference between Kosovo and South Ossetia has been starker still in the war’s aftermath.
  • The Russians invaded Georgia in a fever of war enthusiasm; have refused to pull out and rejected attempts to internationalise the dispute; and have now recognised the enclaves’ independence less than three weeks after the war began.
  • bringing in the UN and international peacekeepers.
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Ellen Mischinski

The Jamestown Foundation: The Chechen Reaction to the Georgian Crisis - 0 views

  • the Chechen refugees in Georgia began to disappear, which naturally alerted the Chechen Diaspora as well as refugees from Chechnya, which by then was already a sizeable group
  • unanimous support for Georgia’s actions and were convinced that Georgia’s actions were provoked by Russia (Kavkazky Uzel, August 7). Moreover, the Georgians noticed that Chechens from the Vostok battalion were the ones who saved many Georgian civilians from revenge attacks by Ossetians and Russians
  • At the time the Russian leadership’s position on South Ossetia was probably not clear to Kadyrov. When he understood what Russia’s interest was he made a new statement offering to send 10,000 Chechen fighters (Vesti.ru, August 12). Furthermore, by then he knew that his implacable foe, Sulim Yamadaev, the Vostok battalion’s commander, was among the Russian troops in South Ossetia.
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  • 20 young Chechen girls had joined the ranks of militants hiding in the mountains and said there were many other instances of departures by young people eager to participate in the resistance movement
  • The democratic wing of the Chechen resistance limited itself to ambiguous statements of support for Georgia based not on the principle of territorial integrity but on criticism of Russia for its hypocritical position regarding those who had been struggling for independence for close to two decades
    • Ellen Mischinski
       
      Chechens teamed up with Georgia, both don't like russia. Chechens think russia is being hypocritical recognizing SO & Abk. but not Chechnya. Young boys and girls going off to fight in resistance=violence / anti-peace/stability
Austin Buben

Jamestown Foundation Blog: ICJ's Kosovo Verdict Weakens Russian Position - 0 views

  • A second argument is that Abkhazia and “South Ossetia” declared their independence after a mass ethnic cleansing of hundreds of thousands of Georgians, and other ethnicities had artificially changed the demographic composition of the two regions. Russia’s military presence in those territories both before and after the war as well as the absence of proper international peace mechanisms have prevented the majority Georgian population from returning home. While in Kosovo the very purpose of the international mission was to help the Kosovar Albanians to return safely, hundreds of thousands of Georgians have not been allowed to go back to Abkhazia and Tskhinvali. Thus, unlike Kosovo, the de-facto authorities in Abkhazia and Tskhinvali do not represent the majority of the lawful residents in those territories but are merely puppet regimes whose declarations have no legitimacy. Recognizing the independence of the occupied territories would just legitimize the use of ethnic cleansing as a device to change international borders.The ethnic cleansing of Georgians has been officially recognized by the UN General Assembly, by the OSCE in 1994, 1996 and 1999 during its Budapest, Lisbon and Istanbul summits, and by several individual states. Paragraph 17 of the 1999 OSCE Istanbul Summit Document states: “We reiterate our strong condemnation as formulated in the Budapest and Lisbon Summit Documents of the ‘ethnic cleansing’ resulting in mass destruction and expulsion of predominantly Georgian population in Abkhazia, Georgia.”
    • Austin Buben
       
      Ethnic cleansing by Russia artificially turned the region of Abkhazia and South Ossetia from a Magority of Georgians into a minority who now want to declare independence.
Duncan Flippo

Russia ratifies Abkhazia, S. Ossetia military base deployment | Defense | RIA Novosti - 2 views

  • The Russian parliament's upper house ratified agreements on Wednesday concluded last year with Abkhazia and South Ossetia, under which Moscow will set up military bases in the breakaway republics. The treaties allow Russia to operate military bases Abkhazia and South Ossetia for an initial term of 49 years, with possible extensions for an additional 15 years
    • Duncan Flippo
       
      This is pretty cool. shows that ossetia and abkhazia need russia military, and plan to have them around for a long time
  • Georgia's Foreign Ministry described the move as an unlawful and irresponsible legitimization of the Russian military presence in the separatist regions
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    i found this has stuff about military presence in Ossetia
Shana Thomas

Georgia Is Warned by Russia Against Plans to Join NATO - NYTimes.com - 1 views

    • Shana Thomas
       
      So- I'm guessing that Russia would not approve of Abkhazia being known as independent? Wouldn't this also "threaten" Russia? since Russia borders Abkhazia?
  • President Dmitri A. Medvedev of Russia warned the Georgian president, Mikheil Saakashvili, on Friday that Georgia’s joining NATO would deepen the conflict between the former Soviet states.
  • Mr. Medvedev told Mr. Saakashvili that his quest for NATO membership would not help resolve the simmering tensions in the separatist Georgian regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
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  • Russian troop buildup in Abkhazia could destabilize the region,
  • German leaders had expressed their concern to him about relations between Russia and Georgia
  • Russia wanted to resolve the conflicts, but not with outside help,
  • Mr. Saakashvili, however, did not back away from his long-term goal of joining NATO. Georgia has applied for membership, and NATO has promised that it will eventually be accepted.
  • Mr. Medvedev has argued that NATO membership for Georgia or Ukraine, which has also sought membership, would threaten Russian security.
  • Abkhazia borders the Krasnodar region of Russia
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    -Kevin Gregor
Neha Kukreja

Possibility of Abkhazian Independence - 3 views

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    pg.10: "On the whole, Abkhaz citizens' view of the West is based on many years of resentment over the West's repeated calls for the full restoration of Georgia's territorial integrity. This call ignores the Abkhaz desire to have a state of their own, questions their rich historical past and devalues the sacrifices made by the people of Abkhazia during the war unleashed by Georgia." There's no telling that if we granted Abkhazia independence that they wouldn't launch a war vs. the west in retaliation....
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    pg. 11:"Another factor is the steady stream of cheap Western videos, on which many people base their view of Western culture. Moreover, restrictions imposed by the EU and the United States (US) on Abkhaz people entering their countries not only violates their right to freedom of movement, but also stops them from becoming acquainted with modern Western life. Abkhazia's attitude to the West is also, to some extent, indicative of the isolationist mentality that resulted from many years of embargoes - a factor which is further exacerbated by an unconscious fear of globalisation."
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    pg. 11:"On the question of how much Abkhazia actually needs to be recognised by the wider international community, most Abkhaz officials of whatever rank expressed the view that international recognition is not absolutely necessary at this stage. Given the close strategic partnership with Russia, the country can interact with the outside world through the Russian state and private structures." Would you look at that.... some Abkazians don't even want independence!!!
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    pg. 13: "1. Unless President Medvedev of Russia is able to insist on a more liberal way of development in Russia, the civilisational differences between the West and Abkhazia will only grow. Abkhazia will continue to navigate channels laid down by Russian policy and full international recognition will be postponed for many years. 2. If real modernisation is initiated in Russia, this will lead to a more open foreign policy. This will undoubtedly have a positive effect on the development of Abkhazia. The latter will have a chance to accelerate the process of international recognition by developing democratic institutions." Basically, what we're seeing here is that Abkhazian independence isn't totally out of the picture, but rather there are some requirements in making "peace" with the West that needs to come first.... BOTH Russia and Abkhazia need to do this.
Ellen Mischinski

End American Aid to Israel?: Yes, It Does Harm :: Middle East Quarterly - 0 views

  • The economy would have collapsed in 1973 due to the balance of payments problem following the Yom Kippur War. Today it is still important to shoulder the economy from external shocks such as the Persian Gulf War and the massive flow of Russian immigrants to Israel in the past few years. If the aid were reduced or eliminated, a sharp reduction in government spending would be required. Sussman adds: "The $1.5 billion in emergency aid allocated to Israel in the mid-1980s was responsible for helping to stabilize the Israeli economy and stifle hyperinflation."6
  • In fact, American defense and aerospace firms reap substantial benefits from U.S. aid to Israel, for it guarantees them a $1.35 billion captive market each year. Out of $1.8 billion in grants, then, Israel receives about $450 million in cash that can be converted into Israeli currency and used either to purchase Israeli-made military products or develop weapons (such as the Arrow anti-missile system). Steven L. Spiegel, a professor at the University of California in Los Angeles, points out that Israel performs invaluable services by testing and developing weapon systems for the United States, improving American-made equipment, and providing crucial intelligence information.11 Moreover, Spiegel argues that Israel's use of American-made arms not only saves the United States money but earns it more: For example, after Israel's much advertised successes with U.S. weaponry in the 1969-70 War of Attrition and the 1982 war in Lebanon, U.S. arms sales worldwide in 1972-82 nearly tripled, from about $6.8 to $19.6 billion in constant 1982 dollars.12 And while of course it does not wish for wars to occur, the United States gains valuable information by seeing its arms perform against those of Israel's enemies, lessons that "cannot be purchased, developed, or simulated."13
Ellen Mischinski

S. Ossetia to be absorbed into Russia - UPI.com - 0 views

    • Ellen Mischinski
       
      Ellen found this.
  • The former province of Georgia will be absorbed into Russia, declared Trazan Kokoity, deputy speaker of South Ossetia's parliament in Tskhivali, only three days after Russia recognized the Georgian breakaway provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia to be independent states,
  • Eduard Kokoity, South Ossetia's leader, said during talks with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev that it would become part of Russia within "several years,"
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  • The declaration will likely produce a backlash in the West,
  • Russia is planning to construct a pair of military bases in Abkhazia,
Caroline Yevak

Russias Recognition of Independence for South Ossetia and Abkhazia Is Illegitimate They... - 0 views

  • The current situation in South Ossetia and Abkhazia bears no resemblance or moral equivalence to Kosovo's declaration of independence in February 2008.
  • The near-universal support for Kosovar independence stands in sharp contrast to the unilateralism exercised by Moscow over South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Kosovo's independence was gained through the U.N. process with prior consultation and widespread unity.
  • When the majority of the European Union and the United States recognized Kosovo's independence, they acknowledged that such independence was the result of tough, tragic, violent, and unique circumstances.
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  • South Ossetia, with Moscow's assistance, is cleansing the area of ethnic Georgians, thereby essentially copying Serbia's effort to ethnically cleanse Kosovo.
  • Indeed, Moscow is currently considering basing a permanent military facility in Abkhazia.
    • Caroline Yevak
       
      Russian presence in SO & A
    • Caroline Yevak
       
      not parallel
  • Russia has pledged that it will go to any lengths to protect its gains in South Ossetia and Abkhazia
  • , and the West must not underestimate Moscow's determination to make good on that commitment.
  • Europe must quickly recognize that the Georgian situation cannot be undone and that more aggression is to be expected from Moscow.
Ellen Mischinski

Freshly Recognized - Kommersant Moscow - 0 views

  • Russia, South Ossetia and Abkhazia can place military bases on each other’s territories,” Lavrov said.
  • the Russian military contingent will consist of 3800 people in each republic.
  • Now, a list of 39 countries that recognize the republic is posted on the president’s website. Neither Nicaragua nor Russia is on the list. They are the only countries to recognize Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
    • Ellen Mischinski
       
      If they play the hypocrite card, we can use this as a rebuttal
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    Russia, South Ossetia and Abkhazia can place military bases on each other's territories," Lavrov said.
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