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zeina ammar

Rhetological Fallacies - 4 views

www.informationisbeautiful.net/...rhetological-fallacies

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shared by zeina ammar on 15 Apr 12 - No Cached
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  • zeina ammar on 15 Apr 12
     
    A few fallacies to avoid during debates
  • Daniel Bou Diab on 16 Apr 12
     
    This post is golden!
Dina Azar

Man who tweeted bin Laden's raid - 8 views

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Twitter

shared by Dina Azar on 22 Mar 12 - No Cached
  • Dina Azar on 22 Mar 12
     
    Do you guys think it really is possible for regular people to become "journalists" through social networking sites like twitter? thoughts??
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  • Jad Rahme on 23 Mar 12
     
    Sure it is called "Citizen Journalism" :) It is actually an important debate in the journalism world!
  • zeina ammar on 24 Mar 12
     
    The terms "journalist" and "reporter" are often used interchangeably. I'd make the distinction between the two and say that so-called citizen journalists are actually citizen reporters. Reporter = a person who makes a shorthand record of a speech or proceeding (Merriam-Webster). Journalist = a writer who aims at a mass audience (Merriam-Webster). When you tweet about an event, you don't produce a well-researched piece of writing but a spontaneous piece of information. I call that citizen reporting.
  • Dima Saber on 25 Mar 12
     
    All I can say this is definitely enough reason for you guys to join the Twitter vs. Journalism debate at ArabNet Community Day (March 31). www.arabnet.me :-)
  • Jad Rahme on 01 Apr 12
     
    I liked this differentiation Zeina :)
  • Daniel Bou Diab on 02 Apr 12
     
    Wow that's amazing!
Miriam Assaad

Kony? What about America's war criminals? - 3 views

www.youtube.com/watch

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shared by Miriam Assaad on 10 Mar 12 - No Cached
  • Miriam Assaad on 10 Mar 12
     
    Interesting analysis of the US motives from the Kony intervention
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  • Brittany Frye on 11 Mar 12
     
    Interesting video, but I think anyone watching has to remain aware that it's produced by RT America, which was founded and is funded by the Russian government. Many have described its content as pro-Kremlin/pro-Putin propaganda, including The Economist, which I would say is a pretty reliable media source. But for the sake of the class, it would be interesting to compare the issues RT America highlights to the issues CNN or BBC highlights.
  • zeina ammar on 11 Mar 12
     
    The issues brought to light in this video are all very important but does that make KONY2012 any less important? A man, an organization, can only do so much. First, they can't focus on more than one issue at a time. Second, they shouldn't have to. It's not their job. It's remarkable enough that they could mobilize so many people to get interested in Uganda. No one's stopping any other man/organization from campaigning for these other causes that need attention...
  • zeina ammar on 11 Mar 12
     
    That's 1. 2- Just because Uganda has oil, it does not mean that an intervention that is strictly directed towards the arrest of a horrible psychopath would eventually aim at exploiting its resources. There are over 70 million people watching the US' steps in Uganda now. The US can't afford to make any mistakes. Besides, this whole thing would be excellent publicity for the US' role as world's biggest humanitarian heroes. So yes, it does serve US interests, just not financial ones. Not this time.
  • Miriam Assaad on 11 Mar 12
     
    To clarify I am not against kony 2012 but 100% pro... However this video raises alot of questions and it highlights some of the issues we should take into consideration before advocating the Kony case... there are hundreds of people and guerrillas in Africa that are similar to Kony for instance their is Buko Haram in Nigeria bombing the north everyday why didnt they intervene if its a humanitarian cause... Could this be part of Obama's optimism strategy to prove that American is coming back furthermore with all the success that China has and the dominance it has in the African markets there are financial benefits that can be reaped from this intervention and probably kony is a tool http://sites.duke.edu/sjpp/2011/america-v-china-battleground-africa/ this is an article that highlights the issue...
  • Hussein Khalil on 11 Mar 12
     
    Well from what the initial Kony2012 video portrays, it was purely a civil society action, fueled by one massive advocacy campaign. I agree with Zeina, the motives don't stem from pure gain, in fact their deployment of 100 troops is for advisory purposes - they are there to train the Ugandan resistance to take down the Kony and the LRA, who have been substantially expulsed from Ugandan territories. (Conspiracy theory: they're sending a few men to find the oil) And so far it has not only shown to US's hegemony in humanitarian affairs, but also civil society's direct ability to shape foreign policy without direct lobbying (through ADVOCACY CAMPAIGNS - unless we've established it under political communication campaigns)
  • Miriam Assaad on 11 Mar 12
     
    The massive advocacy campaign is due to opinion leaders dispatching the video like Oprah Winfrey with 9.6 million followers or Rihanna along with several other artists... this is why the video had such a huge number of views in a short time... However, i think the reality is far more complex and much of it has to do with Western business interests in Africa, and in African resources in particular.
  • Hussein Khalil on 11 Mar 12
     
    Well obviously, it's like Obama using Kanye West to support him during elections. The grassroots of the campaign was one man, and his personal mission to give Jacob a better life. How he did it determined the success of the actual campaign. It's not always down to the hard numbers, because if the US did indeed have business in Africa, they wouldn't spontaneously decide to enter into the Middle of Africa, a highly volatile and mostly marginalized area. They began a push in the North, with the "Liberation" (?) of Libya, and would progressively move from there. Of course this is almost all speculation, but their push for Uganda doesn't make strategic sense.
  • Brittany Frye on 11 Mar 12
     
    1. Although it's irrelevant, President Obama never recruited Kanye West to campaign for him. 2. Of course the U.S. has economic and security interests in Africa. What's inherently wrong with that? Don't make the small deployment of U.S. troops sound like a conspiracy to obtain some completely immoral and corrupt end. Here's an article from a U.S.-based political news website that usually has somewhat of a conservative slant. It discusses U.S. strategic interests in Uganda. http://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2012/03/08/us_strategic_interests_in_uganda_99947.html
  • Brittany Frye on 11 Mar 12
     
    By the way, Miriam cool article from Duke's foreign policy journal about China and the U.S.
  • Hussein Khalil on 11 Mar 12
     
    1. Thanks Brittany for the clarification about Kanye, my main point was that Celebrities are the medium, and not the political communicator. 2. The article really sheds light on the context in the region and gives great background. I didn't at any point say that it was a conspiracy to reach a corrupt end, it was meant as a sarcastic observation hence the parenthesis and use of "conspiracy". The article definitely underlines a Cold War-esque push in the region, but the stages right now are embryonic, even with China's role in the region: http://www.international.ucla.edu/media/files/81.pdf the situation is contentious and it's too early to assert anything definitively. I did not say there were no interests, rather, they are not acting upon them with this deployment. Which brings me back to my point, that the current foreign policy objective is LRA over economic and security action. - I should have expressed myself in more precise terms, however, the point was aimed at being a general observation. Don't get me wrong though, the article is great. Personal Opinion Note: The Ugandan government is "stable" relative to the region, they do have a formal government, however the on the ground political situation mirrors the Lebanese in a way, seeing as how they are still recovering from sectarian strife, so economic trade coupled with regional and internal instability does not seem strategic right now.
  • Toufic Sarieddine on 11 Mar 12
     
    I'm very happy Marcel is an aware artist, I hope his album sells, however, some of his facts are wrong, but he makes very valid points still... And as for RT being a Russian-funded-and-founded news outlet, I think that's a thing to take into consideration as well, but I do find the views expressed by Marcel quite compelling.
  • Jad Rahme on 11 Mar 12
     
    I am not going to discuss US politics since you guys already did and stated different point of views. What I would like to discuss is how the controversy about Invisible Children is affecting the Kony campaign. I think we should not be naive and believe that this campaign purposes are as simple as "giving Jacob a better life". This Hollywood style video is a bit too much not to have some deeper motives. Indeed, Kony is killing people and he is a "bad guy" but he is not the only one in this world so the question that always come to my mind is "Why Kony?" and that's what support my opinion about the hidden purposes of this campaign. On March 9th Zeina posted an interesting article in French on Twitter about the critics against the KONY 2012 campaign. Some critics accuse Invisible Children of funding the regular Ugandan Army and there are even pictures showing the relation between the organization and the army. Invisible Children may be lying about their real motives but does this lessen the importance of Kony crimes and criminal behavior? Of course not! My opinion is that once an organization is dishonest about its real motives in a campaign, it automatically loses a lot of credibility and people's focus shift from the ideas presented in the campaign (which are true) to the organization itself. If we apply this to Kony, what I'm saying is that people will start focusing on Invisible Children and their motives and activities and start forgetting that Kony is a real criminal.
  • Brittany Frye on 11 Mar 12
     
    Well-said! I agree.
  • Dima Saber on 11 Mar 12
     
    Well sounds like Diigo does work much better than Moodle. And Jad, yes I agree with Brittany, well-said. This all sounds like amazing material for a position paper. More tomorrow in class!
  • zeina ammar on 11 Mar 12
     
    100%. Now I have a question for you: doesn't financing the Ugandan army feed into Invisible Children's main goal of arresting Kony? So what are these hidden motives everyone is talking about?
  • Jad Rahme on 11 Mar 12
     
    They never stated anything about this which makes it a "hidden" motive regardless if it something good or bad. Dishonesty. Great Idea Ms. Saber I'm going to write a position paper about this :)
  • Hussein Khalil on 11 Mar 12
     
    Actually, it doesn't necessarily mean "dishonest" at least in the way the campaign developed. Just because the NGO didn't roll out their entire agenda in a video doesn't mean they're hiding anything. The video itself was aimed at a component of their objective in Uganda: Make Kony a household name. Dishonest here is a matter of opinion, in terms of how the campaign construction and evolution (encoding) is done. Calling it a scam is like saying advertisers are trying to steal your money, they don't tell you we want to make profit, but rather you need to consume our product. If you choose to participate and donate, it is your job as an activist to do the necessary research, at least in my opinion. The rest can be chalked up to the debate: should campaigners give its audience all of the information or should they give them enough and have them make a decision (lethargic & informed vs. active & smart). Then we seek to define how much is enough, which gets down to opinion. The bottom line however is over such a short period of time and the quick rise of the deviant opinion is something we should definitely examine. The "hidden" motives are basically the motives that weren't included in the video KONY2012 video. However it fulfilled its purpose as a medium, raise awareness about the cause (itself, but not the NGO's agenda), involve as many people as possible. In the end it comes down to framing the issue. As for Invisible Children as an organization, it has its Vision and Mission Statement set clear on its website. There were very broad headlines concerning their Kony initiative, they offered a step by step plan when major criticism began to surface. They have updated their page accordingly: http://www.invisiblechildren.com/critiques.html - and cracking down because of their funding of the Ugandan army is a matter of political debate. Either you prefer to arm the Ugandans (past human rights abusers) and have them expel the threat themselves, allow the threat of the L
  • Hussein Khalil on 11 Mar 12
     
    RA to grow, or allow foreign intervention to deal with the issue. From here it's a matter of perspective, and which proponent is thinking of the case of Uganda.
zeina ammar

Is Obama wagging the Dog? - 15 views

There is a fine line between being critical and being a conspiracy theorist. To avoid falling in the conspiracy trap, there are some questions that you need to ask yourself: - What is the l...

started by Tarek Maamari on 08 Mar 12 4 follow-ups, last by zeina ammar on 09 Mar 12
Hussein Khalil

Dirty Politics, Negative Ads And Super PACs Impact On The 2012 Presidential Race - 0 views

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shared by Hussein Khalil on 23 Apr 12 - No Cached
  • Hussein Khalil on 23 Apr 12
     
    This video is a debate over the effects of Super PACs on the presidential race, negative ads and their impacts on candidate image (both attacker and attacked) and whether politics is financially driven or merit-based.
Karina Assaf

French election: final polls suggest swing to Nicolas Sarkozy - 0 views

www.guardian.co.uk/...sarkozy-hollande-opinion-polls

2012Elec Elections 2012 France

shared by Karina Assaf on 06 May 12 - No Cached
  • Karina Assaf on 06 May 12
     
    Socialist voters face a nervous wait for the results of today's presidential election runoff between Nicolas Sarkozy and François Hollande after final opinion polls following Wednesday's fiery television debate revealed a late surge in favour of the outgoing president, who has trailed his leftwing rival throughout the race.The polls indicated that Hollande was still on track to win the second round runoff vote, but revealed that the gap between the presidential rivals had narrowed from 10 percentage points a week ago to between four and six.
Dima Hajj

Rick Santorum's latest ad against Obama - 8 views

www.youtube.com/watch

shared by Dima Hajj on 25 Mar 12 - No Cached
  • Dima Hajj on 25 Mar 12
     
    What do you guys think of this? Seems ridiculous to me..
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  • Dima Saber on 25 Mar 12
     
    I am not sure if I am more amused or scared about this increasing tendency to build momentum towards a war on Iran... I mean you guys could campaign, sure! But why Iran? Again? Seriously?!
  • zeina ammar on 26 Mar 12
     
    wow
  • Daniel Bou Diab on 26 Mar 12
     
    I understand that it is a bit exaggerated but obama will indeed grow much more radical in which case he's re-elected. I'd love to see the look on the faces of democrats after a second obama term, but hopefully he won't see another term. Unless of course Santorum wins the nomination.
  • zeina ammar on 27 Mar 12
     
    Daniel you're such a rightist in all your positions about absolutely everything. Gotta admire the consistency...
  • Daniel Bou Diab on 27 Mar 12
     
    Of course I am! And thanks! :)
  • Dina Azar on 27 Mar 12
     
    you guys, it was like santorum took control of my computer! i couldn't even pause the video to continue on my rampage against him. did you notice at :32 when the creepy voice says, "and the residents of THIS town must come to grips with the harsh reality that a rogue nation and swarn american enemy, has become a nuclear threat." the OBSESSION with iran has to stop, it's getting a little out of hand. santorum is using propaganda (at it's absolute worst!) to rally the americans into another war with another invisible enemy. jesus. i cannot see any more santorum news, it'll make me sick.
  • zeina ammar on 27 Mar 12
     
    Dina 100% with you. Which is why, Daniel (oh Daniel!) we REALLY need to talk. I need to hear your arguments one by one. Not in class of course but find a way because your convictions are so strong that they terrify me. I have so many questions for you.
  • Daniel Bou Diab on 27 Mar 12
     
    I hate Santorum and I do not support him, but for you to call Iran an American obsession is very interesting. Iran now trains terrorists in full-fledged camps in Venezuela, and deals with drug cartels in Mexico which have access to American soil, and it's still an "obsession" to you? Let's not go too far, stay here in Lebanon and look at your situation, do you really approve of Iran's gradual encroachment on your historical home as a member of a minority? Or perhaps you will awaken when alcohol and clubbing among other things are no longer allowed in Lebanon? It's called way of life and it is such a shame to see the liberal media succeed in alienating those who defend our way of life. Zeina my convictions aren't meant to terrify you, they're meant to terrify those determined leftists or anything/anyone ultimately contributing to the curbing of my freedom or the changing of my identity. They should know that there is and will always be a hard wall they will hit other than reality.
  • Brittany Frye on 28 Mar 12
     
    "obama will indeed grow much more radical in which case he's re-elected" I HOPE he becomes more "radical" in his second term when he no longer has to worry about getting reelected. He has been way too soft on certain controversial issues (i.e. healthcare reform). For instance, some speculate that he may legalize gay marriage or alter U.S. policy towards Israel once reelected.
  • zeina ammar on 28 Mar 12
     
    These speculations are not to his advantage though, are they? I mean gay marriage sure whatever I'm guessing all Democrats (and sane people) agree on that but Israel policy? That will cost him.
  • Dina Azar on 28 Mar 12
     
    i just wanted to share this: John Brabender, a senior advisor to Santorum, told CNN the campaign has no plans to purchase airtime for the video. don't worry daniel, i'll be getting back to your condescending comment in a moment.
  • Daniel Bou Diab on 28 Mar 12
     
    Well for you this is a dream come true but for me it's a nightmare. "Too soft"? You call gradually turning America into a socialist country "too soft"? 99 weeks of unemployment benefits is not "too soft". The EPA having enough power to enforce a freaking dust limit just because of nine migratory birds is not "too soft". VETOING the Keystone Pipeline is not "too soft". I could go on, but then again, things like that actually please liberals. I don't like to emphasize gay marriage a lot since I'm indifferent to it but don't prefer it. But to think that the he'll change US policy towards Israel, especially at this critical time, is a nightmare that even Santorum ad's can't express. Republicans, and Conservatives in general, are the sane people, but look at history, people who turned out to be right were always at first alienated and made to look stupid. No hard feelings.
  • zeina ammar on 28 Mar 12
     
    Dude I'm sorry if I made you feel like you were under attack. I respect your opinion. I really would've liked to have this conversation elsewhere so that I don't spam everyone's inbox. My main concern is not that you have these opinions but that you refuse to question them. You seem so certain about everything. I myself change positions on the same subject 100 times before settling on one opinion and I've learned to do that thanks to people around me who keep challenging me. And I wanted to hear your arguments precisely to reconsider my positions once again. PS: sorry about the word "sane" I had no right to say it like that and I certainly wasn't directing it against you. Peace, Love & Such Positive Vibes *_*
  • Daniel Bou Diab on 28 Mar 12
     
    haha you have no idea what I had to go through to arrive at these conclusions. Self-doubt, head splitting pondering, constant self-criticism, etc. But as you said it always helps to be challenged, it reveals flaws. I'm glad that you made me think hard about what to say. No need to worry I considered this a strictly political debate from the start and I'm also sorry if I said something messed up. Peace.
Hussein Khalil

Campaign for (Santorum) neologism - 0 views

en.wikipedia.org/...Santorum_(neologism)

Campaign Advocacy Slander

shared by Hussein Khalil on 11 Mar 12 - No Cached
  • Hussein Khalil on 11 Mar 12
     
    Let me apologize in advance for the obscenity in this article, however I feel it's important to see how the relationship between a candidate's platform and constituents is a two-way street. After portraying an anti-gay stance in 2003, a sex columnist and gay rights activist called for a competition to give new meaning to the word "Santorum", which they did. The article follows the consequences of Santorum's statement.
  • zeina ammar on 11 Mar 12
     
    Can someone PLEASE explain to me why gay rights are still a matter of DEBATE!? Especially in political campaigns... WHY do people care so much about taking a firm stand against homosexuality? What difference does it make in their lives? ça me dépasse...
  • Hussein Khalil on 11 Mar 12
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