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started by anonymous on 02 Apr 12
  • anonymous
    #1 anonymous on 02 Apr 12
     
    I think...
  • Stephanie B
    #2 Stephanie B on 03 Apr 12
     
    I think our bill should say something about what other punishments rather than adult punishment and capital punishment
  • Karin R
    #3 Karin R on 03 Apr 12
     
    I think that the first thing that should be addressed in our bill is at what age you are still considered a juvenile. This then will show what group of people we addressing. I think that a juvenile should at the lowest be age 18 and under.
  • SamuelA A
    #4 SamuelA A on 03 Apr 12
     
    I think... that If a person under the age of 18 kills some that he shouldn't be killed them self for what they did. I feel it is not right for a child to die even if they killed some one else.
  • Stephanie B
    #5 Stephanie B on 03 Apr 12
     
    Karin i think you are right. We do need to find out what is considered a juvenile. I think that is what they already consider a juvenile though.
  • Kyra M
    #6 Kyra M on 03 Apr 12
     
    I think that our bill should say that kids should not have to go to a jail no matter how terrible their crime was, and have them go to a rehabilitation center where they can understand their mistake and become more educated about it instead of just sitting in a jail room with people twice their age and not understanding their mistakes. Also they are kids still so their brains have not fully developed, so by going to a place that will educate them they can get their brains to be more developed. And if they do it again maybe there should be a jail consequence but it would depend.
  • Mira Coffey
    #7 Mira Coffey on 03 Apr 12
     
    I think that the bill should say that even if someone under 18 commits a crime that is so severe that they go to adult court the offender shouldn't go to jail. Since they aren't adults they have a larger chance of changing so instead of being put into jail they should have different punishment like in the books touching spirit bear and holes.
  • Stephanie B
    #8 Stephanie B on 03 Apr 12
     
    Sam that is a good point but we also have to find something else they could use for punishment.
  • Isabel K
    #9 Isabel K on 03 Apr 12
     
    I think that the bill should address a few things. When juveniles break crimes there should be a certain punishment for the different crimes, murder is much worse than some smaller laws that are broken. So, I think that the punishment for murder should be more harsh. Before anything else is decided though, the age considered a juvenile should be determined. I think 18 and under should be the set juvenile age, even though it has been proven that the brain isn't fully developed until around 25 years old.
  • chance lister
    #11 chance lister on 03 Apr 12
     
    I think that our bill should be not be very tight because with all of the different opinions it would be very hard to pass a bill with chiseled lines. However, i believe that our bill should cover what to do if a certain crime is committed such as murder, rape or a high degree of theft. Like i said about it being hard to pass a stiff law i feel that it would be ideal to have some guidelines to help cover different cases/ issues.
  • Kieran B
    #12 Kieran B on 03 Apr 12
     
    I think that for serious crimes, such as murder and rape, juvenile offenders should be tried in an adult court. If found guilty they should get the same punishment as an adult with a smaller jail time with an extended rehabilitation period. I think that multiple offenders should be given the same punishments as adults. For other smaller crimes, such as stealing and assault juvenile offenders should be tried in a juvenile court. If found guilty, they should receive smaller punishments intended for juveniles. This punishment could/should include rehabilitation and community service. I don't believe, however, that juvenile offenders should receive any capital punishment, no matter how harsh the crime committed is. An example of this is that one Virginian teenager spent time in jail after committing a non- violent carjacking crime. After leaving jail, he went on to graduate college and become a published author. It would have been a tragedy and a huge mistake if this young man had been killed because of one misstep he made. So, I believe that most juvenile offenders should have the chance to make up for their mistakes in the form of rehabilitation or community service. Multiple Offenders of serious crimes, however, should receive the same punishments as adults.
  • chance lister
    #13 chance lister on 03 Apr 12
     
    Karin.. i agree. I feel that that is one of the issues that comes up a lot. I also feel that there should be age limits for counseling groups and other treatment styles.
  • Douglas F
    #14 Douglas F on 03 Apr 12
     
    I think that juveniles should be tried as juveniles thats why there is juvenile courts. If juveniles aren't tried as juveniles then there is no need for a juvenile court. I also believe that juveniles shouldn't be sentenced to death because the frontal lobe of the brain isn't fully developed until the mid-twenties of life.
  • Tyler robinsont2016
    #15 Tyler robinsont2016 on 03 Apr 12
     
    I think that the bill should say that even though your brain is not fully developed till you are 25 I think that most people even children our age know what is right and what is wrong we should be punished for our actions even if it is proven that people our age do not have a fully developed brain but I think that most people our age know that if they do something like that it is wrong and people know it's wrong and it will be wrong no matter what age you are and that people our age should be able to be tried as adults and should also be able to be put in jail with a life sentence.
  • Sarah M
    #16 Sarah M on 03 Apr 12
     
    We first need to decide on a age of a juvenile. After we do that, we need to consider the crimes and the punishments. It really depends on the crime the juvenile did. We need to figure out if a juvenile is found guilty of murder or other serious crimes, if they will be killed, or go to jail.
  • chance lister
    #17 chance lister on 03 Apr 12
     
    Kieran... Great points. i feel the same way.
  • Maeve Poleman
    #18 Maeve Poleman on 03 Apr 12
     
    When juveniles commit crimes like murder or rape, then they should be sent to jail after a fair trial. You can't let a crime that huge off the hook so easily. What's to stop juveniles from doing a crime like this again if their first time they received none or little punishment? I think that for less serious crimes juveniles should be sent to a rehabilitation center after a fair trial. This is because maybe there was a reason that they committed this crime, or something that made it our of their control/power. I also think that it might work if all juveniles 15 or over should go to adult courts, and any younger should go to juvenile courts.
    I heard about a case where a juvenile who commited burgalry went to jail, and when he came out he went to college, and then became a proffeser. This shows that lesser crimes shouldm't go unpunished, but they should defineitly get a second chance.
  • Bailey W
    #19 Bailey W on 03 Apr 12
     
    I think that our bill should note about the many differences in juvenile crimes. Each one may have its own quirks and so we need to make sure that we aren't putting a band-aid on something that doesn't need a band-aid. Some crimes like trespassing and vandalism seem like minor crimes compared to murder or rape. Kids can' get a free pass to just get a lecture. Their actions are wrong and we need to make sure they understand that but also aren't exposed to more violence and crimes than they would if they were to be sentenced to adult imprisonment. What if we also set up our bill to also look at family patterns of crime as well as their own pattern. For example: if a kid was to get a small sentence on rape, and then they were suspected of that again, the punishment would and should obviously be more severe. Juveniles are our future generation and if we let people of easy we may be cause a more violent future or a very slow work force if everyone were to be in prison for crimes. Punishments need to fit the crime. Not too harsh and also not too lenient. Our bill should address all of these concerns if we are to have a better future for juveniles and everyone effected by their actions.
  • Kieran B
    #20 Kieran B on 03 Apr 12
     
    Isabel, I agree with you. I think that there should be a difference in punishments depending on the crime. It's true, that some crimes are much more severe and harsh than others. What punishments do you think juvenile offenders should receive for different crimes?
  • Nicole B
    #21 Nicole B on 03 Apr 12
     
    I think that our bill should say that juveniles are able to go to adult prison dependent on what kind of crime they have done, but also, agreeing with numerous sites I have seen, i think that juveniles shouldn't have to go to a prison that has grown men and women that have even more ideas and thoughts that can be put into they child's mind. Going to adult prison should only be necessary for juveniles that have quite a pattern of crimes. Otherwise, they should still serve a consequence but one that is appropriate from the age and crime.
  • Douglas F
    #23 Douglas F on 03 Apr 12
     
    Bailey, I agree with you. I think that there are many differences between juvenile crime and adult crime. For example the frontal lobe in the brain isn't developed until after your juvenile years which means the offenders don't know any better. BUT, this isn't an excuse for juveniles to commit crimes.
  • chance lister
    #24 chance lister on 03 Apr 12
     
    Douglas...the brain is fully developed after 25 years
  • chance lister
    #25 chance lister on 03 Apr 12
     
    However i feel that even though their brain isn't fully developed i feel that they should still be held accountable for a decent part of the crime. For example, would you make the choice to steal or commit some other indecent act? NO! that is because you have developed enough to make your own choices. However we can make the punishment productive to help juveniles understand what they have done wrong and use the 25 year window to heal them.
  • Carol Livingston
    #26 Carol Livingston on 04 Apr 12
     
    Kaleidoscope Issue 3 - interesting discussion! You have some details to figure out, it sounds like: how old is a juvenile? should they be tried in adult courts? should they receive adult sentences? what are the other options? Remember your research and the facts as you make your arguments: what did you find out was the result of juveniles serving sentences in adult prisons? what other choices are there instead of prison? It sounds like you want to make a distinction between "serious" and "less serious" crimes - what are they? Be sure to continue to read the bookmarked articles and find the facts to help you make these decisions. Well done!
  • Maeve Poleman
    #27 Maeve Poleman on 04 Apr 12
     
    Karin, I was thinking about that. Maybe everyone 15 or lder- or something like that- should be tried in an adult court, and anyone younger should go to juvenile courts. We need to make sure that juvenile courts give full rights, though.
  • Maeve Poleman
    #28 Maeve Poleman on 04 Apr 12
     
    Nicole, I get what your saying about juveniles should only go to adult prisons if they make a very serious or repeated offense. We could say: any kind of affense over 15 should go to an adult court, but only the very serious ones should actually go to adult prisons. For offenses besides murder and rape, there should be juv. jails that include rehailitation.
  • Maeve Poleman
    #29 Maeve Poleman on 04 Apr 12
     
    Mira, I know what your saying. But i still think for the most serious crimes, juv should still go to jail. I found out that 10% of all homicides are commited by juveniles. Jailing evtremely dangerous criminals under 18 could save alot of lives.. . .
  • chance lister
    #30 chance lister on 04 Apr 12
     
    Good points Maeve. Another reason only the most serious crimes should be jail offenses is overcrowding and more people to house causes cut to places where we need money and it could mean increases in taxes.
  • Sarah M
    #31 Sarah M on 04 Apr 12
     
    I think our bill should say that juveniles should be tried in adult court, but only for very serious crimes. Juveniles should have the same punishment as adults do. I think that the age of a juvenile should be around 16-17, an age that kids really understand why they will be tried in adult court. There should be some program for juvenile kids that committed less serious crimes to get better and change.
  • Douglas F
    #32 Douglas F on 05 Apr 12
     
    I agree with you Sarah. The serious crimes like murder diserve the same sentence no matter your age. I think that people under the age of 18 should be given light sentences for non-serious crimes like robbery or non-violent car-jacking. But there should be a harsh sentence for serious crimes like murder and treason.
  • Kieran B
    #33 Kieran B on 05 Apr 12
     
    I personally believe that multiple offender juveniles should go to jail. Juveniles commit more than 10% of the crimes in the U.S., so jailing them could help in reducing the amount of crimes nationwide. Plus, do you think it's really safe to let a murderer and rapist go back to their lives, without being punished for what they have done? I just don't think that we can afford to allow these people to get away with these horrible crimes. If we don't come down hard on them, were are just encouraging them and people around them to commit crime. If we don't show juveniles that their crimes are unacceptable, people will get the idea into their head that they can do the same and get away with it. We need to show juveniles that they can't get away with crimes just because they're kids.
    I think that the age for juveniles should be 18 years old and under. 18 is already the age that many states use when deciding whether the convict is a juvenile. It makes sense to keep the same age that most of the states are using today. I think that most of the people here already believe that juveniles should be tried in a adult court for serious crimes such as murder and rape. However, we haven't talked a lot about the possibilities of rehabilitation and community service. I mean sentencing people to jail is not always the right answer. Take a case with a boy from Virginia. A Virginian teenager spent time in jail after committing a non- violent carjacking crime. After leaving jail, he went on to graduate college and become a published author. It would have been a tragedy and a huge mistake if this young man had been killed because of one misstep he made. this story just goes to prove that jail may not be the right answer to every crime...
  • Bailey W
    #34 Bailey W on 05 Apr 12
     
    If we have a more broad spectrum of what we consider to be a juvenile it may be harder to sentence adolescents.
  • Bailey W
    #35 Bailey W on 05 Apr 12
     
    18 years and younger sounds correct and if people want to go against us about the not fully developed brain. The person can make their decisions, hopefully they have the sense not to do it.
  • Mira Coffey
    #36 Mira Coffey on 05 Apr 12
     
    I agree Bailey and Kieran,
    they shouldn't get away with crime just because of their age but even if they don't go to jail there are plenty other punishments.
  • Carol Livingston
    #37 Carol Livingston on 05 Apr 12
     
    Good morning, all - You continue to raise important aspects about this complicated issue...How about focusing today's discussion on the actual wording of a bill (due tomorrow)? It would be great if someone could post a draft of a bill - 1 to 2 sentences - for people to discuss and revise so that you arrive at a bill each of you can present tomorrow.It is important to hear from EVERYONE in order for this to work - all your thinking and ideas are critical to this process!
  • Isabel K
    #38 Isabel K on 05 Apr 12
     
    Kieran, you made a really good point when you said some juveniles just make small mistakes and then go on in life to do better things. This may be the case for some people, but not for all so we still have to be careful around that area.

    Currently, the punishments of juvenile offenders are completely different in a lot of states or even within states. There was a case where a boy murdered someone but didn't go to adult court or even adult trial instead he went to a juvenile facility. While this boy murdered someone and nearly got away with it, another boy who didn't harm anyone was sent to adult prison. These types of things shouldn't be happening so we must include something in our bill to stop it. We could say that there are certain crimes where the offender MUST be tried as an adult.
  • Kieran B
    #39 Kieran B on 05 Apr 12
     
    This is maybe what the bill could say:
    -All juvenile offenders (age 18 and younger) will be tried in a juvenile court unless the crime committed is to such an extreme, in which case the offender will be tried in a adult court. The juvenile offender shall only be tried in an adult court if the state agrees. However, for this to happen, the crime must involve the murder or death of the victim; only then can a juvenile be tried in an adult court. The punishment of all other crimes should involve rehabilitation and community service.
  • Kyra M
    #40 Kyra M on 05 Apr 12
     
    Isabel, i agree with you. I think that this law should not be different in each state. This will just make it unfair and make each case that is the same (like murder) very different.

    There should also be a line between what is a big crime and what isn't. We should also state this in our bill.
  • Maeve Poleman
    #41 Maeve Poleman on 05 Apr 12
     
    I agree with you Kieran . Should we add that everyone over 15 gets to go to an adult court-. . .. ?
    If people agree with this/ Kierans, say so and then we can right a final bill.
  • Isabel K
    #42 Isabel K on 05 Apr 12
     
    I think we should add that everyone over 15 should go to an adult court. Do others agree that this should happen automatically no matter what the crime is? We have to consider that if juveniles commit a crime (different or the same) more than once they could keep getting more serious. We need to prevent those types of things from happening and lower the rate of crime among juveniles.
  • Karin R
    #43 Karin R on 05 Apr 12
     
    Kieran That sounds like a great consolidation of our ideas. Personally i think that all juveniles no matter what the crime should go through the juvenile court system no matter what the crime. The punishments can still be very similar to those given in an adult court. I think it would be OK to send those accused of murder to adult court but i do not think that any juvenile offender 15 and older should go to adult court. It should depend on the crime; murder and maybe rape.
  • Kieran B
    #44 Kieran B on 05 Apr 12
     
    How About this:

    -All juvenile offenders (age 18 and younger) will be tried in a juvenile court unless the crime committed is to such an extreme, in which case the offender will be tried in a adult court. Only juvenile offenders approved by the state, shall be allowed to go through a process involving an adult trial. However, for this to happen, the crime must involve the murder or death of the victim; only then can a juvenile be tried in an adult court. The punishment of all other crimes with less degree should involve rehabilitation and community service.All juveniles under the age of 15, however, will be tried in a juvenile court, where the punishment is carefully considered for the benefit of the convicted person.
  • Isabel K
    #45 Isabel K on 05 Apr 12
     
    We keep talking about how juveniles should go to adult court, does this mean they would receive the same punishment as an adult for the same degree of crime no matter what age the juvenile is?
  • Nicole B
    #47 Nicole B on 05 Apr 12
     
    I agree with you guys(Isabel, Maeve, and Kieran), having the juvenile age for going to an adult court/prison should be 15 and should be included in our bill. But, I also do think that in kieran's draft we could add that rape would also be combined with murder and death...yes?
  • Isabel K
    #48 Isabel K on 05 Apr 12
     
    Kieran, that sounds good. Should rape fall under the category of an extreme crime?
  • chance lister
    #49 chance lister on 05 Apr 12
     
    Kieran- Sounds good to me. I like the points at the end. However, what will be done about the the juvenile after their sentence. Would we want them monitored or should that be left up to the judge?
  • Kieran B
    #50 Kieran B on 05 Apr 12
     
    how about this (Karin this might help with your idea):

    -All juvenile offenders (age 18 and younger) will be tried in a juvenile court unless the crime committed is to such an extreme, in which case the offender will then be transferred from a juvenile court to a adult court. All crimes, for kids aged 18 or younger, will start in a juvenile court. If the court believes that the crime is very extreme, the case will be moved to an adult court. However, to go through a process involving a adult court, cases must be approved by the state. For a case to be moved to an adult court, the crime must involve the murder, death, or rape of the victim; only then can a juvenile be tried in an adult court. The punishment of all other crimes with lesser degree should involve rehabilitation and community service.All juveniles under the age of 15, however, will be tried in a juvenile court, where the punishment is carefully considered for the benefit of the convicted person. Punishment inflicted upon the convict is decided by the court in which the juvenile is located. A juvenile in a adult court, will receive the same punishment as an adult. A juvenile in a juvenile court, will receive receive non-adult punishments appointed to their case which will include rehabilitation and community service.
  • Nicole B
    #51 Nicole B on 05 Apr 12
     
    Kieran- looks good. I agree with you chance.
  • Karin R
    #52 Karin R on 05 Apr 12
     
    That looks great. To add on to Chance's question, should all juveniles have some sort of rehabilitation in their sentence? I think they should no matter what the age.
  • Nicole B
    #53 Nicole B on 05 Apr 12
     
    I agree with you Karin, but should it also be up to what crime they caused and their punishment?
  • chance lister
    #54 chance lister on 05 Apr 12
     
    This is the bill should say. i think
    Any juvenile accused of any count of murder, rape or serious crime (to be determined by judge or jury) will be sent to an adult court for fair trial. However this child must be 15 years or older. When this person is released from their sentence they are to go to a rehabilitation center or have somebody with them to help them with their issue. However, any person under the age of 15 is to be tried in a juvenile court and is to be mentored until deemed fit to be released from help. In addition, for anyone up to the age 18 when they are suited to live on their own; may be removed temporarily or permanently removed from their legal guardian if it is decided they are not suited to bring up the child.
  • Kieran B
    #56 Kieran B on 05 Apr 12
     
    Chance we all have to have one bill.... You can't have your own bill. Its a group bill
  • chance lister
    #57 chance lister on 05 Apr 12
     
    for tommorow?
  • Kieran B
    #58 Kieran B on 05 Apr 12
     
    yahh. That's why i have been writing a bill and people have been commenting on the changes to make. Im trying to come up for a bill for all of us...which is what were supposed to do.
  • chance lister
    #59 chance lister on 05 Apr 12
     
    any good points in my piece?
    anyway... i could secede
  • Karin R
    #60 Karin R on 05 Apr 12
     
    I think that both of the bills are great. Great summarizing of our points.
  • Kieran B
    #61 Kieran B on 05 Apr 12
     
    yah exactly! Good ideas Chance! are there any other point we need to address?
  • Bailey W
    #62 Bailey W on 05 Apr 12
     
    These bills sound good but the question is what one are going to choose?
  • Bailey W
    #63 Bailey W on 05 Apr 12
     
    I am fine with either of them.
  • chance lister
    #64 chance lister on 05 Apr 12
     
    combination? I called Kieran and he left or is leaving for soccer. If you guys can figure out a combination or pick one i can deal with either.
  • Bailey W
    #65 Bailey W on 05 Apr 12
     
    What if we do the first half of Kieran's bill and the second half of Chance's so we get all of the good points into one bill? Our bill will be very strong if we have both ideas in one.
  • Bailey W
    #66 Bailey W on 05 Apr 12
     
    -All juvenile offenders (age 18 and younger) will be tried in a juvenile court unless the crime committed is to such an extreme, in which case the offender will then be transferred from a juvenile court to a adult court. All crimes, for kids aged 18 or younger, will start in a juvenile court. If the court believes that the crime is very extreme, the case will be moved to an adult court. However, to go through a process involving a adult court, cases must be approved by the state. For a case to be moved to an adult court, the crime must involve the murder, death, or rape of the victim; only then can a juvenile be tried in an adult court.When this person is released from their sentence they are to go to a rehabilitation center or have somebody with them to help them with their issue. However, any person under the age of 15 is to be tried in a juvenile court and is to be mentored until deemed fit to be released from help. In addition, for anyone up to the age 18 when they are suited to live on their own; may be removed temporarily or permanently removed from their legal guardian if it is decided they are not suited to bring up the child.

    OK Guys... this is both of the bills cut and pasted together. Does everybody like?
  • Sarah M
    #67 Sarah M on 05 Apr 12
     
    I like it... sounds good!
  • Isabel K
    #68 Isabel K on 05 Apr 12
     
    Sounds really good, it sums up everything we've tried to include so far.
  • chance lister
    #69 chance lister on 05 Apr 12
     
    I like it. GREAT JOB EVERYONE!
  • kurt remlin
    #70 kurt remlin on 05 Apr 12
     
    i like Good Job :) !!!!!
  • Stephanie B
    #71 Stephanie B on 05 Apr 12
     
    Sounds good to me
  • Mira Coffey
    #72 Mira Coffey on 05 Apr 12
     
    I feel like i just arrive at a party and everyone left... anyway i just read through everything and the bill sounds great i agree with every point. I support splitting up the punishments depending on the age very strongly. Well done!
  • Bailey W
    #73 Bailey W on 06 Apr 12
     
    yeah we did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Kyra M
    #74 Kyra M on 06 Apr 12
     
    Sounds great!
  • Stephanie B
    #75 Stephanie B on 06 Apr 12
     
    sorry guys i didn't have internet last night to help but the bill sounds great and i think it was good that you guy added the bills together.
  • Maeve Poleman
    #76 Maeve Poleman on 06 Apr 12
     
    Yeah sounds good. Isn;'t kinda long. . . . . .
  • Kieran B
    #77 Kieran B on 06 Apr 12
     
    FINAL BILL:

    All juvenile offenders (age 18 and younger) will be tried in a juvenile court unless the crime committed is to such an extreme, in which case the offender will then be transferred from a juvenile court to a adult court. All crimes, for kids aged 18 or younger, will start in a juvenile court. If the court believes that the crime is very extreme, the case will be moved to an adult court. However, to go through a process involving a adult court, cases must be approved by the state. For a case to be moved to an adult court, the crime must involve the murder, death, or rape of the victim; only then can a juvenile be tried in an adult court. The punishment of all other crimes with lesser degree should involve rehabilitation and community service.All juveniles under the age of 15, however, will be tried in a juvenile court, where the punishment is carefully considered for the benefit of the convicted person. Punishment inflicted upon the convict is decided by the court in which the juvenile is located. A juvenile in a adult court, will receive the same punishment as an adult. A juvenile in a juvenile court, will receive receive non-adult punishments appointed to their case which will include rehabilitation and community service. When this person is released from their sentence they are to go to a rehabilitation center. In addition, for anyone up to the age 18 when they are suited to live on their own; may be removed temporarily or permanently removed from their legal guardian if it is decided they are not suited to bring up the child.
  • Kieran B
    #78 Kieran B on 06 Apr 12
     
    This is the new revised FINAL bill.
  • Douglas F
    #79 Douglas F on 06 Apr 12
     
    Ya! Sounds great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Kieran B
    #80 Kieran B on 06 Apr 12
     
    FINAL BILL ABOVE
  • Bailey W
    #81 Bailey W on 06 Apr 12
     
    This is from Maeve and Bailey.
    Here is the bill breifly.
    Everyone younger than 15, no matter what crime they commit, will go to a juvenile court and then a juv. jail if found guilty. For all lesser crimes, juv. will go to juvenile courts, juv. jails/ juv. rehabilitiation centers. For all 15 to 18 yearolds that commit murder or rape, and are guilty, will go to an adult court adn adult jail. Rehabilitation after the sentence/ during is mandatory for all juveniles no matter whazt the crime.
    Also if the legal guardian of the juvenile is not suted to raising them, the child can be temporarily/permanantly.
  • Douglas F
    #82 Douglas F on 06 Apr 12
     
    What do you mean by "The child can be temporarily/permanantly,"? What is temporary of permanant?
  • Kieran B
    #83 Kieran B on 06 Apr 12
     
    Does the state have a say in whether the crime is large enough to be moved to an adult court or is it just automatic? If the state has such a big say it might get in the way..
    -Isabel
  • chance lister
    #84 chance lister on 06 Apr 12
     
    Not temporary of permanent but temporary or permanent.
  • Stephanie B
    #85 Stephanie B on 06 Apr 12
     
    This is kind of confusing me everyone changing the law. It is Bailey and maeve's shorter one though right? It sounds good though and it includes a lot of the detail we have in our longer paragraph
  • kurt remlin
    #86 kurt remlin on 06 Apr 12
     
    yes Kieran but if the kid kill some one shoul the death penalty or a long term or life sentiance be alowed. for the child or juvivial tried.
  • Bailey W
    #87 Bailey W on 10 Apr 12
     
    Our bill sounds repeative. Can we change it?
  • Isabel K
    #88 Isabel K on 10 Apr 12
     
    FINAL FINAL BILL:

    All juvenile offenders (age 18 and younger) will be tried in a juvenile court unless the crime committed is to such an extreme, in which case the offender will then be transferred from a juvenile court to a adult court. All crimes, for kids aged 18 or younger, will start in a juvenile court. However, to go through a process involving an adult court, cases must be approved by the state. For a case to be moved to an adult court, the crime must involve the murder, death, or rape of the victim; only then can a juvenile be tried in an adult court. The juvenile must be over 15 for the convict to go to an adult court. All juveniles under the age of 15, however, will be tried in a juvenile court, where the punishment is carefully considered for the benefit of the convicted person. All punishments should involve rehabilitation and community service no matter what age or crime. Punishment inflicted upon the convict is decided by the court in which the juvenile is located. A juvenile in an adult court, will receive the same punishment as an adult. A juvenile in a juvenile court, will receive non-adult punishments appointed to their case. When this person is released from their sentence they are to go to a rehabilitation center. In addition, for anyone up to the age 18 when they are suited to live on their own; may be removed temporarily or permanently from their legal guardian if it is decided they are not suited to bring up the child.
  • Kieran B
    #89 Kieran B on 16 Apr 12
     
    Good job!

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