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Ted O'Neill

Massively Open Online Course on Planning Online Courses Collapses | MetaFilter - 0 views

  • And in my opinion, completion rates aren't a very good measure of success. That's applying a rubric that makes more sense in traditional education than in a MOOC. In a way, it's kind of like asking what the completion rate is for Metafilter. The more interesting (albeit more difficult to measure) metric is how much comprehension a student acquires relative to the amount of time she invests. I think the next generation of MOOCs will be a lot more fluid, with "students" coming and going and spinning off into separate groups and regrouping on the fly. That is, they'll become less like a classroom and more like the internet.posted by roll truck roll at 21:56 on February 4 [+] [!]
  • That is, they'll become less like a classroom and more like the internet. That's an interesting suggestion, but it leads me to wonder why the whole MOOC thing in the first place? If the end-state is basically "the Internet," which we already have, what exactly is the value-add of the MOOC part? Why not just hang out on a specialist forum dedicated to whatever you're interested in, then? That's something we have already and it seems like an awful lot of effort to reinvent that particular wheel, if we really think that's how it'll shake out. And if the value add is in the certification and the testing, then really what you have are slightly less-sleazy versions of those for-profit universities that offer "degrees based on life experience", no?
  • I can tell you in that IT companies are already taking certifications of completions in these kinds of courses seriously. I'm taking one right now -- mandatory from my employer.posted by empath at 6:24 on February 5 [+] [!]
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  • More recently, I tried the HCI Coursera and bailed after the first week because I didn't like the idea of peer assessment. I have been a marker on university courses, it's not a fun task.
  • Peer assessment is my main, really only, problem with MOOCs. Even if they are ostensibly run by Harvard/Stanford/MIT with course content signed off by Big Name Professors, your thousands of fellow students are not going to be mostly Harvard/Stanford/MIT upperclassmen or even, for intro classes, mostly the valedictorians of high schools
  • the comments you will wade through will be a Duke's Mixture of 1) metafilter-or-better, 2) Slate-Salon-Atlantic, 3) Reddit, 4) YooToob, 5) 4chan-somethingawful, 6) stormfront. How much of each? Skewed bellcurve, with the long fat tail on the dimwit end.
  • all graded by actual Harvard/Stanford/MIT TAs The last thing our academic systems need is more bullshit filler work for grad students.posted by maryr at 1:06 on February 7
Ted O'Neill

Half an Hour: What Makes a MOOC Massive? - 0 views

  • In particular, my focus is on the development of a network structure, as opposed to a group structure, to manage the course. In a network structure there isn't any central focus, for example, a central discussion.
  • So what is essential to a course being a *massive* open online course, therefore, is that it is not based in a particular environment, isn't characterized by its use of a single platform, but rather by the capacity of the technology supporting the course to enable and engage conversations and activities across multiple platforms.
  • The big danger, to my mind, in a large online course is that through strong group-formation activities, it can become a small online course. This happens when a central clique or insider group is formed, or where you have inner circles and outer circles. The inner circle, for example, might expect and demand preferential access to and individual attention from the course facilitators.
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  • When the course functions as a small group, there is an expectation that everyone will agree on the course content, objectives, and domain of discussion. But, in fact, to be a massive course, it must needs respect a wide variety of individual objectives, perspectives on course materials, and opinions about relevant topics of discussion
  • I provide the figure of 150, Dunbar's Number, as the cut-off line. Now to be clear, this would refer to *active* participants, and not merely the number of people who signed up.
Ted O'Neill

Venture Capital's Massive, Terrible Idea For The Future Of College | The Awl - 0 views

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      Shirky has it completely wrong. People who have been shut out are not well prepared to function in moocs. They have to be able to manage formal learning autonomously in a less formal environment. Tall order.
  • The possibility MOOCs hold out is that the educational parts of education can be unbundled. MOOCs expand the audience for education to people ill-served or completely shut out from the current system
Ted O'Neill

College's rejection of edX highlights potential drawbacks of massive online course... - 0 views

  • Citing an internal report on edX, Inside Higher Ed said the school worried MOOCs could: Perpetuate an “information dispensing” model of teaching, which preferences lectures and exams over seminars and teacher-graded papers Take tuition dollars from middle-tier and lower-tier schools Lead to the centralization of higher education in the U.S. Exacerbate the star faculty system
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Groups and Networks | Flickr - Photo Sharing! - 0 views

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    Huge Stephen Downes whiteboard brain dump that defines the differences between groups and networks. Relevant to small closed online classes vs massive open online courses. SCOCs vs MOOCs.
Ted O'Neill

The False Promise of the Education Revolution - College, Reinvented - The Chronicle of ... - 1 views

  • The pundits and disrupters, many of whom enjoyed liberal-arts educations at elite colleges, herald a revolution in higher education that is not for people like them or their children, but for others: less-wealthy, less-prepared students who are increasingly cut off from the dream of a traditional college education.
  • David Stavens, a founder of the MOOC provider Udacity, as conceding that "there's a magic that goes on inside a university campus that, if you can afford to live inside that bubble, is wonderful."
  • "The whole MOOC thing is mass psychosis," a case of people "just throwing spaghetti against the wall" to see what sticks, says Peter J. Stokes, executive director for postsecondary innovation at Northeastern's College of Professional Studies. His job is to study the effectiveness of ideas that are emerging or already in practice.
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  • But "innovation is not about gadgets," says Mr. Stokes. "It's not about eureka moments. ... It's about continuous evaluation."
  • the gap between the country's rich and poor widened during the recession, choking off employment opportunities for many recent graduates.
  • Here's the cruel part: The students from the bottom tier are often the ones who need face-to-face instruction most of all.
  • "The idea that they can have better education and more access at lower cost through massive online courses is just preposterous," says Patricia A. McGuire, president of Trinity Washington University. Seventy percent of her students are eligible for Pell Grants, and 50 percent come from the broken District of Columbia school system.
  • But the reinvention conversation has had a "tech guy" fixation on mere content delivery, she says. "It reveals a lack of understanding of what it takes to make the student actually learn the content and do something with it."
  • "To champion something as trivial as MOOC's in place of established higher education is to ignore the day-care centers, the hospitals, the public health clinics, the teacher-training institutes, the athletic facilities, and all of the other ways that universities enhance communities, energize cities, spread wealth, and enlighten citizens,"
Ted O'Neill

Brown University Creates Online Course for High School Students - NYTimes.com - 1 views

  • as Brown’s team has come to believe, it could start a trend of directly advising high school students and their teachers on specific curriculums, motivated in part by the hypercompetitive college admissions process.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      This could actually add to the competitive admissions process, or ideally replace it with a creative learning activity that builds knowledge in the applicant and connections between incoming first-years.
  • Still, Brown’s online development team is debating whether to offer a certificate of some kind to students who complete the course, which officials know would be used as yet another college application supplement.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Replace! Don't add to the madness! Be courageous and get rid of the other stuff high school students are forced to do to pad or extend their CVs.
  • Now, in what seems to be the first major effort by a university to tailor a massive open online course, or MOOC, specifically to high school students, Brown University is preparing to offer a free online engineering class with the aim of teaching high school students about the merits and challenges of the field.
Ted O'Neill

Half an Hour: Backgrounds and Behaviors of MOOC Participants and Implications for Faculty - 1 views

  • There was a cluster of high-use countries and then a massive tail. Canada, Colombia, Greece, the UK, Poland – these were the high-use countries. Now students in these countries have a peer group of unprecedented size.
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      This is the power of MOOCs.
  • We had representatives in our course from 194 countries – they didn’t all interact in every part of the course, but imagine how the instructor felt
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      Ah, the star faculty member emerges on the stage.
  • We anecdotally observed that students are continuing to participate in the discussion forums nearly a year after the course has finished. So we can ask of LMSs whether we should be allowing students to participate after the course has been completed.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Yes, MOOCs open in time, not just content or access.
Ted O'Neill

The Professors Behind the MOOC Hype - Technology - The Chronicle of Higher Education - 2 views

  • Many professors teaching MOOCs had a similarly positive outlook: Asked whether they believe MOOCs "are worth the hype," 79 percent said yes.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      This needs to be defined. Worth in what way? Based upon what experience?
  • Many of those surveyed felt that these free online courses should be integrated into the traditional system of credit and degrees. Two-thirds believe MOOCs will drive down the cost of earning a degree from their home institutions, and an overwhelming majority believe that the free online courses will make college less expensive in general.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Most MOOCs are for general survey type or intro classes. The cost of providing those classes is not the driver behind higher education costs.
  • John Owens was drawn to MOOCs because of their reach. He also did not want to be left behind.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      On the other hand, is there a cost to being an earlier adopter? Often.
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  • A number of the professors in the survey said they hoped to use MOOCs to increase their visibility, both among colleagues within their discipline (39 percent) and with the media and the general public (34 percent).
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      MOOC as the driver of star professors, stratifying faculty, not just students.
  • In May 2012, when the presidents of Harvard University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology announced that they would enter the MOOC fray with $60-million to start edX, they were emphatic that their agenda was to improve, not supplant, classroom education.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      However, there agenda may include supplanting other online offerings. Free from MIT or paid at University of Phoenix?
  • "Online education is not an enemy of residential education," said Susan Hockfield, president of MIT at the time, from a dais at a hotel in Cambridge, "but an inspiring and liberating ally."
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      For MIT/Harvard the on campus experience is the key. Further class/socioeconomic stratification?
  • Typically a professor spent over 100 hours on his MOOC before it even started, by recording online lecture videos and doing other preparation. Others laid that groundwork in a few dozen hours.
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      Point this out to your employer if asked to MOOC.
  • Once the course was in session, professors typically spent eight to 10 hours per week on upkeep. Most professors managed not to be inundated with messages from their MOOC students—they typically got five e-mails per week
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      I don't find this at all credible. I've seen more than this in some moocs. I get more email than that each week from 125 on-campus students.
  • In all, the extra work took a toll. Most respondents said teaching a MOOC distracted them from their normal on-campus duties.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      What do employers think of that?
  • "It's out of 'my own' time, which is quite limited," Mr. Owens reported. "So, yes, other areas of my job suffered."
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Pretty candid admission. Is he still employed? Will this affect tenure?
  • In lieu of credit toward a degree, most professors offer certificates to students who complete massive online courses. Three-quarters of the professors surveyed said they offered some sort of document certifying that a student had completed a MOOC. It remains unclear, however, how seriously those certificates are being taken by employers. College degrees are still seen as the coin of the realm.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      "College degrees are still seen as the coin of the realm." and universities will make sure it stays that way if they can.
  • Most professors who responded to The Chronicle's survey said they believed that MOOCs would drive down the cost of college; 85 percent said the free courses would make traditional degrees at least marginally less expensive, and half of that group said it would lower the cost "significantly."
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Were any of them economics professors? "Lower cost significantly" by replacing a few income generating courses with free replacements? Fantasy.
Ted O'Neill

Essay on the nature of change in American higher education | Inside Higher Ed - 0 views

  • However, in times of massive social change like the transformation of America to an information economy, a commensurate transformation on the part of higher education is required. We are witnessing precisely that today. MOOCs, like the university itself or graduate education or technology institutes, are one element of the change. They may or may not persist or be recognizable in the future that unfolds. What does seem probable is this. As in the industrial era, the primary changes in higher education are unlikely to occur from within. Some institutions will certainly transform themselves as Harvard did after the Civil War, but the boldest innovations are likelier to come from outside or from the periphery of existing higher education, unencumbered by the need to slough off current practice. They may be not-for-profits, for-profits or hybrids. Names like Western Governors University, Coursera, and Udacity leap to mind. We are likely to see one or more new types of institution emerge.
  • In this era of change, traditional higher education—often criticized for being low in productivity, being high in cost, and making limited use of technology — will be under enormous pressure to change. Policy makers and investors are among those forces outside of education bringing that pressure to bear. It’s time for higher education to be equally aware and responsive.
Ted O'Neill

New Test for Computers - Grading Essays at College Level - NYTimes.com - 1 views

    • Ted O'Neill
       
      What is Shermis basis for stating that prestigious unis have better pedagogy?
  • Anant Agarwal, an electrical engineer who is president of EdX,
  • take tests and write essays over and over and improve the quality of their answers
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  • “There is a huge value in learning with instant feedback,” Dr. Agarwal said. “Students are telling us they learn much better with instant feedback.”
  • Les Perelman, has drawn national attention several times for putting together nonsense essays that have fooled software grading programs into giving high marks. He has also been highly critical of studies that purport to show that the software compares well to human graders. “My first and greatest objection to the research is that they did not have any valid statistical test comparing the software directly to human graders,” said Mr. Perelman, a retired director of writing and a current researcher at M.I.T.
  • Two start-ups, Coursera and Udacity, recently founded by Stanford faculty members to create “massive open online courses,” or MOOCs, are also committed to automated assessment systems because of the value of instant feedback. “It allows students to get immediate feedback on their work, so that learning turns into a game, with students naturally gravitating toward resubmitting the work until they get it right,” said Daphne Koller, a computer scientist and a founder of Coursera.
  • Mark D. Shermis, a professor at the University of Akron in Ohio, supervised the Hewlett Foundation’s contest on automated essay scoring and wrote a paper about the experiment. In his view, the technology — though imperfect — has a place in educational settings. With increasingly large classes, it is impossible for most teachers to give students meaningful feedback on writing assignments, he said. Plus, he noted, critics of the technology have tended to come from the nation’s best universities, where the level of pedagogy is much better than at most schools. “Often they come from very prestigious institutions where, in fact, they do a much better job of providing feedback than a machine ever could,” Dr. Shermis said. “There seems to be a lack of appreciation of what is actually going on in the real world.”
Ted O'Neill

Helping Faculty Members Use Technology Is Top Concern in Computing Survey - Technology ... - 0 views

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      University professional staff don't see money coming in.
  • Those surveyed were none too keen, however, on massive open online courses­—and they were particularly wary of the idea that MOOCs would prove to be good sources of revenue for their colleges. While a little more than half of those surveyed agreed that MOOCs were an effective model for online education, only 29 percent said they were a reliable way to gain new revenue.
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