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Ted O'Neill

The Professors Behind the MOOC Hype - Technology - The Chronicle of Higher Education - 2 views

  • Many professors teaching MOOCs had a similarly positive outlook: Asked whether they believe MOOCs "are worth the hype," 79 percent said yes.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      This needs to be defined. Worth in what way? Based upon what experience?
  • Many of those surveyed felt that these free online courses should be integrated into the traditional system of credit and degrees. Two-thirds believe MOOCs will drive down the cost of earning a degree from their home institutions, and an overwhelming majority believe that the free online courses will make college less expensive in general.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Most MOOCs are for general survey type or intro classes. The cost of providing those classes is not the driver behind higher education costs.
  • John Owens was drawn to MOOCs because of their reach. He also did not want to be left behind.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      On the other hand, is there a cost to being an earlier adopter? Often.
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  • A number of the professors in the survey said they hoped to use MOOCs to increase their visibility, both among colleagues within their discipline (39 percent) and with the media and the general public (34 percent).
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      MOOC as the driver of star professors, stratifying faculty, not just students.
  • In May 2012, when the presidents of Harvard University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology announced that they would enter the MOOC fray with $60-million to start edX, they were emphatic that their agenda was to improve, not supplant, classroom education.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      However, there agenda may include supplanting other online offerings. Free from MIT or paid at University of Phoenix?
  • "Online education is not an enemy of residential education," said Susan Hockfield, president of MIT at the time, from a dais at a hotel in Cambridge, "but an inspiring and liberating ally."
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      For MIT/Harvard the on campus experience is the key. Further class/socioeconomic stratification?
  • Typically a professor spent over 100 hours on his MOOC before it even started, by recording online lecture videos and doing other preparation. Others laid that groundwork in a few dozen hours.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Point this out to your employer if asked to MOOC.
  • Once the course was in session, professors typically spent eight to 10 hours per week on upkeep. Most professors managed not to be inundated with messages from their MOOC students—they typically got five e-mails per week
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      I don't find this at all credible. I've seen more than this in some moocs. I get more email than that each week from 125 on-campus students.
  • In all, the extra work took a toll. Most respondents said teaching a MOOC distracted them from their normal on-campus duties.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      What do employers think of that?
  • "It's out of 'my own' time, which is quite limited," Mr. Owens reported. "So, yes, other areas of my job suffered."
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Pretty candid admission. Is he still employed? Will this affect tenure?
  • In lieu of credit toward a degree, most professors offer certificates to students who complete massive online courses. Three-quarters of the professors surveyed said they offered some sort of document certifying that a student had completed a MOOC. It remains unclear, however, how seriously those certificates are being taken by employers. College degrees are still seen as the coin of the realm.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      "College degrees are still seen as the coin of the realm." and universities will make sure it stays that way if they can.
  • Most professors who responded to The Chronicle's survey said they believed that MOOCs would drive down the cost of college; 85 percent said the free courses would make traditional degrees at least marginally less expensive, and half of that group said it would lower the cost "significantly."
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Were any of them economics professors? "Lower cost significantly" by replacing a few income generating courses with free replacements? Fantasy.
Ted O'Neill

Case Western Reserve University's free online courses exceeded expectations | cleveland... - 0 views

  • For instance, they may offer more breaks during classroom lectures, because they discovered through the online courses that a student's attention span is about 15 minutes.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Waste fo time getting them in and out. This is basic pedagogy. Shift tasks within the class time. Don't just drone on.
  • Richard Boyatzis of CWRU'S Weatherhead School of Management is incorporating aspects from his online “Inspiring Leadership Through Emotional Intelligence” into his classroom courses. He said that in the future the time it takes for a graduate student to get a degree could be reduced, saving thousands in tuition, by combining the best of online learning with classroom teaching.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Then he doesn't understand the needs of the business school. Less tuition means less funding for him. Pool of available fee-paying students is not growing that quickly is it?
  • More than 58,000 logged on once or more to participate, he said.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Is this how Coursera measures participation "once"?
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  • Boyatzis asked graduate students who enrolled this fall in his courses to sign up for the online class and watch the videos and do the exercises to get acclimated. And he has placed the MOOC material, without exams, on a CWRU internal Blackboard site.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      There is no such thing as "MOOC material"
Ted O'Neill

What is a MOOC? - YouTube - 0 views

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    In a time of information overload...
Ted O'Neill

MOOC Provider edX Partners with Community Colleges to Improve Workforce Readiness - Forbes - 0 views

  • 1) Due to budget constraints, community colleges often do not have access to excellent online content
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      So is this the answer? Or, is adequate funding the answer. Or, OER as David Wiley is doing with community colleges.
  • 2) community colleges are often “commuter schools” where part-time students travel to the campus for classes and then go home. In the latter scenario, there’s far less opportunity for students to interact with the content and each other.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      I suppose online interaction is better than none at all, but the affordances of on campus interaction are not the same. Perpetuating the tiered university system.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Also, why are they not on campus? Because they are working. MOOCs take time.
Ted O'Neill

Twitter / gsiemens: This is why MOOCs have to be ... - 0 views

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    Siemens' image of the drop off in participation misses the point. The completers were there all along. Start a mooc with a community fo completers and it doesn't have to ve so large. How? Start with an existing community or "horrors" charge a small one-time fee like Metafilter.
Ted O'Neill

Essay on the nature of change in American higher education | Inside Higher Ed - 0 views

  • However, in times of massive social change like the transformation of America to an information economy, a commensurate transformation on the part of higher education is required. We are witnessing precisely that today. MOOCs, like the university itself or graduate education or technology institutes, are one element of the change. They may or may not persist or be recognizable in the future that unfolds. What does seem probable is this. As in the industrial era, the primary changes in higher education are unlikely to occur from within. Some institutions will certainly transform themselves as Harvard did after the Civil War, but the boldest innovations are likelier to come from outside or from the periphery of existing higher education, unencumbered by the need to slough off current practice. They may be not-for-profits, for-profits or hybrids. Names like Western Governors University, Coursera, and Udacity leap to mind. We are likely to see one or more new types of institution emerge.
  • In this era of change, traditional higher education—often criticized for being low in productivity, being high in cost, and making limited use of technology — will be under enormous pressure to change. Policy makers and investors are among those forces outside of education bringing that pressure to bear. It’s time for higher education to be equally aware and responsive.
Ted O'Neill

Citing disappointing student outcomes, San Jose State pauses work with Udacity | Inside... - 0 views

  • After six months of high-profile experimentation, San Jose State University plans to “pause” its work with Udacity, a company that promises to deliver low-cost, high-quality online education to the masses.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      "Promises" but has now demonstrably failed to deliver.
  • San Jose State Provost Ellen Junn said disappointing student performance will prompt the university to stop offering online classes with Udacity this fall as part of a "short breather." Junn wants to spend the fall going over the results and talking with faculty members about the university’s online experimentation, which extends beyond the Udacity partnership and has proved somewhat controversial. She said the plan is to start working with Udacity again in spring 2014.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Let's see how that reboot works. I doubt it comes back at the IIRC 150USD per pupil mark.
  • Preliminary findings from the spring semester suggest students in the online Udacity courses, which were developed jointly with San Jose State faculty, do not fare as well as students who attended normal classes -- though Junn cautioned against reading too much into the comparison, given the significant differences in the student populations.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Right. Bad planning in selection of student groups for this program. MOOCs require autonomous, skilled learners.
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  • A copy of that internal presentation, which Junn repeatedly emphasized was preliminary, was obtained this week by Inside Higher Ed from the California Faculty Association. According to the preliminary presentation, 74 percent or more of the students in traditional classes passed, while no more than 51 percent of Udacity students passed any of the three courses.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Pretty stark difference.
  • The courses were also put together in a rush. That’s apparently because of the timing of the deal with Udacity. The pilot project was announced a fortnight before classes started. (Like other similar deals, it was also the result of a no-bid contract.) The deal came together at the highest levels: On June 16, 2012, Brown e-mailed and called Thrun to talk about how Udacity could help California's higher education systems. “We need your help,” Brown said, according to Thrun. But, because of the haste, faculty were building the courses on the fly. Not only was this a “recipe for insanity,” Junn said, but faculty did not have a lot of time to watch how students were doing in the courses because the faculty were busy trying to finish them. It took about 400 hours to build a course, though the courses are designed to be reused.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Incredibly bad pedagogy. That's what one gets when you allow the edtech bubble to drive educational decisions and take teaching out of the hands of faculty.
  • Another factor in the disappointing outcomes may have been the students themselves. The courses included at-risk students, high school students and San Jose State students who had already failed a remedial math course.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Duh.
  • Student performance data from the San Jose State/Udacity courses are expected to be released in coming weeks.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      That original report leaked to IHED must be pretty damning if it will take weeks to edit it for release
Ted O'Neill

Massively Open Online Course on Planning Online Courses Collapses | MetaFilter - 0 views

  • And in my opinion, completion rates aren't a very good measure of success. That's applying a rubric that makes more sense in traditional education than in a MOOC. In a way, it's kind of like asking what the completion rate is for Metafilter. The more interesting (albeit more difficult to measure) metric is how much comprehension a student acquires relative to the amount of time she invests. I think the next generation of MOOCs will be a lot more fluid, with "students" coming and going and spinning off into separate groups and regrouping on the fly. That is, they'll become less like a classroom and more like the internet.posted by roll truck roll at 21:56 on February 4 [+] [!]
  • That is, they'll become less like a classroom and more like the internet. That's an interesting suggestion, but it leads me to wonder why the whole MOOC thing in the first place? If the end-state is basically "the Internet," which we already have, what exactly is the value-add of the MOOC part? Why not just hang out on a specialist forum dedicated to whatever you're interested in, then? That's something we have already and it seems like an awful lot of effort to reinvent that particular wheel, if we really think that's how it'll shake out. And if the value add is in the certification and the testing, then really what you have are slightly less-sleazy versions of those for-profit universities that offer "degrees based on life experience", no?
  • I can tell you in that IT companies are already taking certifications of completions in these kinds of courses seriously. I'm taking one right now -- mandatory from my employer.posted by empath at 6:24 on February 5 [+] [!]
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  • More recently, I tried the HCI Coursera and bailed after the first week because I didn't like the idea of peer assessment. I have been a marker on university courses, it's not a fun task.
  • Peer assessment is my main, really only, problem with MOOCs. Even if they are ostensibly run by Harvard/Stanford/MIT with course content signed off by Big Name Professors, your thousands of fellow students are not going to be mostly Harvard/Stanford/MIT upperclassmen or even, for intro classes, mostly the valedictorians of high schools
  • the comments you will wade through will be a Duke's Mixture of 1) metafilter-or-better, 2) Slate-Salon-Atlantic, 3) Reddit, 4) YooToob, 5) 4chan-somethingawful, 6) stormfront. How much of each? Skewed bellcurve, with the long fat tail on the dimwit end.
  • all graded by actual Harvard/Stanford/MIT TAs The last thing our academic systems need is more bullshit filler work for grad students.posted by maryr at 1:06 on February 7
Ted O'Neill

How NOT to Design a MOOC: The Disaster at Coursera and How to Fix it | online learning ... - 0 views

  • there is no way to put a positive spin on my experience with the MOOC I’m enrolled in through Coursera, Fundamentals of Online Education: Planning and Application
  • Group work can provide meaningful learning, in the right context with the support of a sound instructional strategy. The example here from the class, Fundamentals of Online Education: Planning and Application demonstrates why a sound strategy is needed, and what happens when one is lacking. MOOCs require a unique instructional strategy, one that is different from small online courses. What exactly the strategy to follow is under discussion. It is through the courses, such as this one that institutions can learn what works and does not. I give the instructor credit for trying something new, and investing the time and energy she has done which is considerable.
Ted O'Neill

Half an Hour: The MOOC as a Vehicle for Learning: Observations and Conclusions - 1 views

  • Veronica: one we move away from institutional limitations, all kinds of limitations – payment, platform, credit – then we can focus on what works best – and then we can look at things like disaggregation of the course, modularization of the course, etc. Michael: sure, one of the greatest services MOOCs have provided has been to reawaken the imagination. Let’s invest in trying some things, lift some constraints and see what happens. Phil: It’s already having an impact. It’s really people rethink and get past the Carnegie unit, the seat time.
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    The MOOC as a tool to reignite the imagination of teachers and find out what works.
Ted O'Neill

Half an Hour: Backgrounds and Behaviors of MOOC Participants and Implications for Faculty - 1 views

  • There was a cluster of high-use countries and then a massive tail. Canada, Colombia, Greece, the UK, Poland – these were the high-use countries. Now students in these countries have a peer group of unprecedented size.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      This is the power of MOOCs.
  • We had representatives in our course from 194 countries – they didn’t all interact in every part of the course, but imagine how the instructor felt
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Ah, the star faculty member emerges on the stage.
  • We anecdotally observed that students are continuing to participate in the discussion forums nearly a year after the course has finished. So we can ask of LMSs whether we should be allowing students to participate after the course has been completed.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Yes, MOOCs open in time, not just content or access.
Ted O'Neill

Why Some Colleges Are Saying No to MOOCs, at Least for Now - Technology - The Chronicle... - 0 views

  • Offering MOOCs through edX is hardly free. There are options available to institutions that want to build their own courses on the edX platform at no charge, but for partners who want help developing their courses, edX charges a base rate of $250,000 per course, then $50,000 for each additional time that course is offered; edX also takes a cut of any revenue the course generates.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      I wonder how many, if any, of the edX moocs have generated enough income to cover the setup fees? Seriously doubt it.
  • In the debate at Amherst, which boasts a $1.64-billion endowment, money was no object, and the faculty committee devoted to weighing the pros and cons of joining edX did not seem worried about MOOCs as a distraction to teaching and service.
  • On a larger scale, MOOCs might create a "new and different kind of competition" that could jeopardize more-vulnerable colleges, if not Amherst itself; they could "enable the centralization of American higher education" and "create the conditions for the obsolescence of the B.A. degree."
Ted O'Neill

New Test for Computers - Grading Essays at College Level - NYTimes.com - 1 views

    • Ted O'Neill
       
      What is Shermis basis for stating that prestigious unis have better pedagogy?
  • Anant Agarwal, an electrical engineer who is president of EdX,
  • take tests and write essays over and over and improve the quality of their answers
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  • “There is a huge value in learning with instant feedback,” Dr. Agarwal said. “Students are telling us they learn much better with instant feedback.”
  • Les Perelman, has drawn national attention several times for putting together nonsense essays that have fooled software grading programs into giving high marks. He has also been highly critical of studies that purport to show that the software compares well to human graders. “My first and greatest objection to the research is that they did not have any valid statistical test comparing the software directly to human graders,” said Mr. Perelman, a retired director of writing and a current researcher at M.I.T.
  • Two start-ups, Coursera and Udacity, recently founded by Stanford faculty members to create “massive open online courses,” or MOOCs, are also committed to automated assessment systems because of the value of instant feedback. “It allows students to get immediate feedback on their work, so that learning turns into a game, with students naturally gravitating toward resubmitting the work until they get it right,” said Daphne Koller, a computer scientist and a founder of Coursera.
  • Mark D. Shermis, a professor at the University of Akron in Ohio, supervised the Hewlett Foundation’s contest on automated essay scoring and wrote a paper about the experiment. In his view, the technology — though imperfect — has a place in educational settings. With increasingly large classes, it is impossible for most teachers to give students meaningful feedback on writing assignments, he said. Plus, he noted, critics of the technology have tended to come from the nation’s best universities, where the level of pedagogy is much better than at most schools. “Often they come from very prestigious institutions where, in fact, they do a much better job of providing feedback than a machine ever could,” Dr. Shermis said. “There seems to be a lack of appreciation of what is actually going on in the real world.”
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