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Ted O'Neill

Why Some Colleges Are Saying No to MOOCs, at Least for Now - Technology - The Chronicle... - 0 views

  • Offering MOOCs through edX is hardly free. There are options available to institutions that want to build their own courses on the edX platform at no charge, but for partners who want help developing their courses, edX charges a base rate of $250,000 per course, then $50,000 for each additional time that course is offered; edX also takes a cut of any revenue the course generates.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      I wonder how many, if any, of the edX moocs have generated enough income to cover the setup fees? Seriously doubt it.
  • In the debate at Amherst, which boasts a $1.64-billion endowment, money was no object, and the faculty committee devoted to weighing the pros and cons of joining edX did not seem worried about MOOCs as a distraction to teaching and service.
  • On a larger scale, MOOCs might create a "new and different kind of competition" that could jeopardize more-vulnerable colleges, if not Amherst itself; they could "enable the centralization of American higher education" and "create the conditions for the obsolescence of the B.A. degree."
Ted O'Neill

How EdX Plans to Earn, and Share, Revenue From Free Online Courses - Technology - The C... - 0 views

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  • The first, called the "university self-service model," essentially allows a participating university to use edX's platform as a free learning-management system for a course on the condition that part of any revenue generated by the course flow to edX.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      This model is literally passing the buck. Just pushes the problem of revenue down the stack. If Harvard and MIT can't generate enough revenue, how will Joe University make enough to pass up the pyramid?
  • The organization charges a base rate of $250,000 for each new course, plus $50,000
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Which universities have this kind of cash on hand to develop a course when they are essentially getting their faculty to do it for free?
  • EdX has a deal with Pearson VUE, a company that runs a worldwide network of testing centers, to hold proctored examinations for its MOOCs.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Of course, Pearson. The mooc is open and free, the test is closed and expensive. Learning is free, certification is costly. Thank you Pearson.
Ted O'Neill

College's rejection of edX highlights potential drawbacks of massive online course... - 0 views

  • Citing an internal report on edX, Inside Higher Ed said the school worried MOOCs could: Perpetuate an “information dispensing” model of teaching, which preferences lectures and exams over seminars and teacher-graded papers Take tuition dollars from middle-tier and lower-tier schools Lead to the centralization of higher education in the U.S. Exacerbate the star faculty system
Ted O'Neill

Coursera and edX add universities and hope to expand global reach | Inside Higher Ed - 0 views

  • Agarwal also said Netherlands-based Delft University of Technology would be the first MOOC course to release its content under a Creative Commons license, a copyright license that encourages rather than discourages use of otherwise protected materials.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      One small step in the right direction. They say "open always beats closed." I hope so.
Ted O'Neill

California Universities Aggressively Expand Online Courses, Finds Failure Rates Drop | ... - 0 views

  • As California Lt. Governor Gavin Newsom said on a press call for the edX announcement, “The old educational financing model frankly is no longer sustainable.”
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Does Newsome really think that? California's educational finance model was just fine until relatively recently. This is a political choice. Does anyone really believe that there is enough untapped productivity gain available in education through MOOCs? Fantasy.
  • Even edX President, Anant Agarwal, urged caution with the results. “I would not take this number to the bank,” he told me.
  • based on an unusually promising pilot course
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  • But, one-off experiments can often seem much more promising than reality, once they are brought to scale.
Ted O'Neill

MOOC Provider edX Partners with Community Colleges to Improve Workforce Readiness - Forbes - 0 views

  • 1) Due to budget constraints, community colleges often do not have access to excellent online content
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      So is this the answer? Or, is adequate funding the answer. Or, OER as David Wiley is doing with community colleges.
  • 2) community colleges are often “commuter schools” where part-time students travel to the campus for classes and then go home. In the latter scenario, there’s far less opportunity for students to interact with the content and each other.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      I suppose online interaction is better than none at all, but the affordances of on campus interaction are not the same. Perpetuating the tiered university system.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Also, why are they not on campus? Because they are working. MOOCs take time.
Ted O'Neill

At Educause, a discussion about OER | Inside Higher Ed - 0 views

  • The missing piece is a caveat in Coursera’s terms of service that prohibits the use of Coursera’s MOOCs for anything but informal education.
  • “You may not take any Online Course offered by Coursera,” stipulate the terms, “or use any Letter of Completion as part of any tuition-based or for-credit certification or program for any college, university, or other academic institution without the express written permission from Coursera.”
  • The nonprofit MOOC provider, edX, has made "openness" a major part of its PR message, often to position itself as the more collaborative and less money-oriented player in the market. But edX's terms of service also place limits on the extent to which outsiders can avail themselves of edX content. "Unless otherwise expressly stated on the Site, the texts, exams, video, images and other instructional materials provided with the courses offered on this Site are for your personal use in connection with those courses only," read the site's legal notice.
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  • In any case, the same pool of chief academic officers was largely confident that OER had the potential to save their institutions money -- 65 percent said it could.
  • That sort of faith is unusual for a relatively new type of academic resource, especially one with such an ambiguous definition, said Seaman.
Ted O'Neill

California to Give Web Courses a Big Trial - NYTimes.com - 0 views

    • Ted O'Neill
       
      If they cannot pass elementary courses after their preparation in high school, what does that tell us about their preparation for university? Online courses require learners to already be autonomous and prepared to learn. That does not match well with students who need remedial work.
  • Ellen N. Junn, provost and vice president for academic affairs at the university in San Jose, said the California State University System faces a crisis because more than 50 percent of entering students cannot meet basic requirements. “They graduate from high school, but they cannot pass our elementary math and English placement tests,” she said.
  • Recently edX completed a pilot offering of its difficult circuits and electronics course at San Jose State to stunning results: while 40 percent of the students in the traditional version of the class got a grade of C or lower, only 9 percent in the blended edX class got such a low grade.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Would love to see the actual data on these claims and the study methodology if any.
Ted O'Neill

New Test for Computers - Grading Essays at College Level - NYTimes.com - 1 views

    • Ted O'Neill
       
      What is Shermis basis for stating that prestigious unis have better pedagogy?
  • “There is a huge value in learning with instant feedback,” Dr. Agarwal said. “Students are telling us they learn much better with instant feedback.”
  • take tests and write essays over and over and improve the quality of their answers
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  • Anant Agarwal, an electrical engineer who is president of EdX,
  • Les Perelman, has drawn national attention several times for putting together nonsense essays that have fooled software grading programs into giving high marks. He has also been highly critical of studies that purport to show that the software compares well to human graders. “My first and greatest objection to the research is that they did not have any valid statistical test comparing the software directly to human graders,” said Mr. Perelman, a retired director of writing and a current researcher at M.I.T.
  • Two start-ups, Coursera and Udacity, recently founded by Stanford faculty members to create “massive open online courses,” or MOOCs, are also committed to automated assessment systems because of the value of instant feedback. “It allows students to get immediate feedback on their work, so that learning turns into a game, with students naturally gravitating toward resubmitting the work until they get it right,” said Daphne Koller, a computer scientist and a founder of Coursera.
  • Mark D. Shermis, a professor at the University of Akron in Ohio, supervised the Hewlett Foundation’s contest on automated essay scoring and wrote a paper about the experiment. In his view, the technology — though imperfect — has a place in educational settings. With increasingly large classes, it is impossible for most teachers to give students meaningful feedback on writing assignments, he said. Plus, he noted, critics of the technology have tended to come from the nation’s best universities, where the level of pedagogy is much better than at most schools. “Often they come from very prestigious institutions where, in fact, they do a much better job of providing feedback than a machine ever could,” Dr. Shermis said. “There seems to be a lack of appreciation of what is actually going on in the real world.”
Ted O'Neill

Half an Hour: MOOC Provider Panel: Coursera, Academic Partnerships, Instructure, edX - 1 views

  • Question: Matriculated students enjoy full support from their institution's library; how can the MOOC provide similar support to the many thousands of students enrolled in the MOOC, the majority of which are not enrolled at the institution that is offering the course. Maria: You must have been monitoring my Twitter stream. I’ve been really frustrated, I have no access to institutional libraries any more. There’s a real irony to an institutional system that teaches students to access the library and then kicks them out with no more access to it. There’s a role for these libraries. But I don’t see a way for them to do it for free.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      This is a huge problem and not just for MOOCs. I am endlessly frustrated by my access to medical journals, but not education or linguistics journals through my uni.
  • Relly: I would say yes. I often bring up the example of the lecture videos, where there is a knee-jerk reaction that we want lecture videos that are really professional. But students want them to seem more real, to see the professor’s office, etc.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      I just want the videos to be watchable. Poor audio and unlit video are not a good way to capture my attention.
Ted O'Neill

Half an Hour: Backgrounds and Behaviors of MOOC Participants and Implications for Faculty - 1 views

  • There was a cluster of high-use countries and then a massive tail. Canada, Colombia, Greece, the UK, Poland – these were the high-use countries. Now students in these countries have a peer group of unprecedented size.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      This is the power of MOOCs.
  • We had representatives in our course from 194 countries – they didn’t all interact in every part of the course, but imagine how the instructor felt
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Ah, the star faculty member emerges on the stage.
  • We anecdotally observed that students are continuing to participate in the discussion forums nearly a year after the course has finished. So we can ask of LMSs whether we should be allowing students to participate after the course has been completed.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Yes, MOOCs open in time, not just content or access.
Ted O'Neill

The Professors Behind the MOOC Hype - Technology - The Chronicle of Higher Education - 2 views

  • Many professors teaching MOOCs had a similarly positive outlook: Asked whether they believe MOOCs "are worth the hype," 79 percent said yes.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      This needs to be defined. Worth in what way? Based upon what experience?
  • Many of those surveyed felt that these free online courses should be integrated into the traditional system of credit and degrees. Two-thirds believe MOOCs will drive down the cost of earning a degree from their home institutions, and an overwhelming majority believe that the free online courses will make college less expensive in general.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Most MOOCs are for general survey type or intro classes. The cost of providing those classes is not the driver behind higher education costs.
  • John Owens was drawn to MOOCs because of their reach. He also did not want to be left behind.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      On the other hand, is there a cost to being an earlier adopter? Often.
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  • A number of the professors in the survey said they hoped to use MOOCs to increase their visibility, both among colleagues within their discipline (39 percent) and with the media and the general public (34 percent).
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      MOOC as the driver of star professors, stratifying faculty, not just students.
  • In May 2012, when the presidents of Harvard University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology announced that they would enter the MOOC fray with $60-million to start edX, they were emphatic that their agenda was to improve, not supplant, classroom education.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      However, there agenda may include supplanting other online offerings. Free from MIT or paid at University of Phoenix?
  • "Online education is not an enemy of residential education," said Susan Hockfield, president of MIT at the time, from a dais at a hotel in Cambridge, "but an inspiring and liberating ally."
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      For MIT/Harvard the on campus experience is the key. Further class/socioeconomic stratification?
  • Typically a professor spent over 100 hours on his MOOC before it even started, by recording online lecture videos and doing other preparation. Others laid that groundwork in a few dozen hours.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Point this out to your employer if asked to MOOC.
  • Once the course was in session, professors typically spent eight to 10 hours per week on upkeep. Most professors managed not to be inundated with messages from their MOOC students—they typically got five e-mails per week
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      I don't find this at all credible. I've seen more than this in some moocs. I get more email than that each week from 125 on-campus students.
  • In all, the extra work took a toll. Most respondents said teaching a MOOC distracted them from their normal on-campus duties.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      What do employers think of that?
  • "It's out of 'my own' time, which is quite limited," Mr. Owens reported. "So, yes, other areas of my job suffered."
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Pretty candid admission. Is he still employed? Will this affect tenure?
  • In lieu of credit toward a degree, most professors offer certificates to students who complete massive online courses. Three-quarters of the professors surveyed said they offered some sort of document certifying that a student had completed a MOOC. It remains unclear, however, how seriously those certificates are being taken by employers. College degrees are still seen as the coin of the realm.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      "College degrees are still seen as the coin of the realm." and universities will make sure it stays that way if they can.
  • Most professors who responded to The Chronicle's survey said they believed that MOOCs would drive down the cost of college; 85 percent said the free courses would make traditional degrees at least marginally less expensive, and half of that group said it would lower the cost "significantly."
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Were any of them economics professors? "Lower cost significantly" by replacing a few income generating courses with free replacements? Fantasy.
Ted O'Neill

Citing disappointing student outcomes, San Jose State pauses work with Udacity | Inside... - 0 views

  • After six months of high-profile experimentation, San Jose State University plans to “pause” its work with Udacity, a company that promises to deliver low-cost, high-quality online education to the masses.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      "Promises" but has now demonstrably failed to deliver.
  • San Jose State Provost Ellen Junn said disappointing student performance will prompt the university to stop offering online classes with Udacity this fall as part of a "short breather." Junn wants to spend the fall going over the results and talking with faculty members about the university’s online experimentation, which extends beyond the Udacity partnership and has proved somewhat controversial. She said the plan is to start working with Udacity again in spring 2014.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Let's see how that reboot works. I doubt it comes back at the IIRC 150USD per pupil mark.
  • Preliminary findings from the spring semester suggest students in the online Udacity courses, which were developed jointly with San Jose State faculty, do not fare as well as students who attended normal classes -- though Junn cautioned against reading too much into the comparison, given the significant differences in the student populations.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Right. Bad planning in selection of student groups for this program. MOOCs require autonomous, skilled learners.
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  • A copy of that internal presentation, which Junn repeatedly emphasized was preliminary, was obtained this week by Inside Higher Ed from the California Faculty Association. According to the preliminary presentation, 74 percent or more of the students in traditional classes passed, while no more than 51 percent of Udacity students passed any of the three courses.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Pretty stark difference.
  • The courses were also put together in a rush. That’s apparently because of the timing of the deal with Udacity. The pilot project was announced a fortnight before classes started. (Like other similar deals, it was also the result of a no-bid contract.) The deal came together at the highest levels: On June 16, 2012, Brown e-mailed and called Thrun to talk about how Udacity could help California's higher education systems. “We need your help,” Brown said, according to Thrun. But, because of the haste, faculty were building the courses on the fly. Not only was this a “recipe for insanity,” Junn said, but faculty did not have a lot of time to watch how students were doing in the courses because the faculty were busy trying to finish them. It took about 400 hours to build a course, though the courses are designed to be reused.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Incredibly bad pedagogy. That's what one gets when you allow the edtech bubble to drive educational decisions and take teaching out of the hands of faculty.
  • Another factor in the disappointing outcomes may have been the students themselves. The courses included at-risk students, high school students and San Jose State students who had already failed a remedial math course.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      Duh.
  • Student performance data from the San Jose State/Udacity courses are expected to be released in coming weeks.
    • Ted O'Neill
       
      That original report leaked to IHED must be pretty damning if it will take weeks to edit it for release
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