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Kurt Laitner

Feature: Auto group Selection - 20 views

I didn't follow the Common Tag saga, though from the outside it seems a standards effort by small players without the support of the major ones (delicious for example) which is pretty much doomed f...

feature Auto Group Selection

fishead ...•∞º˙

50 group limit - 15 views

the tool should not require me to stand on my head to think.. but that may be a temporary solution, time to experiment with multiple personality disorder, I fear I may enjoy it too much

fishead ...*∞º˙

How Many Is Too Many Twitter Followers? - Community - Gizmodo - 4 views

  • It's not really a problem for me, with my single-digit Twitter following, but anecdotal evidence shows that once a social networking community gets too big, the back-and-forth that created it evaporates. What I'm saying is, Ashton Kutcher is very lonely. A Wired editorial defends the idea of online obscurity, that those smaller groups and their casual sense of community have something that should be admired and retained. Once a group gets too big, members fade into the background, not wanting to speak in front of such a large audience, and in the case of Twitter, the person being followed becomes larger than life. It's an interesting idea—should we be more vigilant in protecting the small groups of which we're a part? [Wired]
    • Jack Logan
       
      100 is too many!
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    so we are not the only ones discovering that it is the more of the social and less of the network...so, the network is the issue???
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    I think it's an issue more of human attention span and capability. It's much easier to keep tabs on and interact with a smaller group because we lack the ability to divide our attentions out beyond a certain point. There are already enough distractions in the world between family, work, neighborhood, town, city, state, country, etc. Adding another layer of interaction complicates everything else that is going around. In a small group, voices can be picked out from the crowd and heard--attended to. In a large group, a single voice gets drowned by the activity of everyone else, and the 'group' loses identity as a group, and becomes a mob. Besides, I like the bulletin board analogy--it really brought this idea. Time to stop looking at all the pinheads and pair down the clutter, right?
Jack Logan

Jack (4) - Google Wave - 34 views

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    Ya'll come and give us your opinion.
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    Sorry, can't get into that wave again... Other than that; I have the impression that Wave speed has been improving greatly in the last days. It's getting almost usable now, even on large waves.
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    Try now, François!
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    thks Jack
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    Thanks Jack!! For everyone, I have added new questions and some clarification sub-questions. Check back periodically to see/contribute to this document growing. Anyone who can't get in, please contact me: underbrain.industries@googlewave.com into your Wave contacts. I will add you to the poll wave. Or if you are connected with someone who is in, they can add you. I am attempting to flesh this survey out with more functionality, please add any questions that you think will add to the discussion. Peace!
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    Continuing great job with this GWave, Frank. Come all and join in and tell all your preferences. The last junket of age is your preferences! lol And, ... I still have mine, ... for the moment. So, ... come on over before I lose some of mine ... lol
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    Morning Jack!! On the subject of the survey's map, I made it public for easy access, and we have new flag from a new participant named Barney Lerten, in Bend, Oregon.....anybody know him??? Part of the little difficulties with Wave right now...public is public. Ah well....
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    Morning Frank! Kurt and I talked a few days ago about this - he was concerned about locking things down at this point. I don't know Barney. Kurt?
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    Never heard of Barney before either. He was invited to the wave by "Public". As you say, Frank, public is public.
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    It's a concern I share. That's why i move the stuff to Wave. we need a list of eceryone in the groups Wave IDs
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    For my 2 sense...don't use Wave--set a private group here or somewhere else, that doesn't have the public/private issues of wave. the problem with wave is there is no central management--anyone can add anyone else to the wave, and pretty soon, ALL your content is visible. I suggest something a little bit more locked down, unless you want to be truly open-source, in which case, take Bent's lead, and move your discussions to codeshare.
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    hey fish!! the only issue is that I was dumb and made something public. we have the same issues on Diigo. We just need a Wave group that includes all the interested people.
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    Agree with Frank. There is no use in letting Barney tell us where he lives, if we want to use the map gadget to choose a good place for a meatspace meeting. So this particular wave, given its intent, should have been restricted to the group. In many cases, I think it could be harmless to open a wave to the public: the crowd can contribute good things, we all know that... But I still think that, by default, wave access should be restricted to group members. It would maximize the sharing of relatively private or "sensitive" information within the group. It would also help keeping the discussions on topic (side-tracking is very easy in all forum discussions and the more people you have in the conversation the more side-tracking you get). Now of course anyone in the group can invite anyone, even "Public" into the wave: just like anyone who has access to a private document can copy it and paste it on a blog or any public place.
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    Yes F1 (Francois, I will be F2)!! i think we can use the wave structures to keep things private and the fact that any of us can add anyone can be moderated by convention and the trust we have begun to build with each other. plus the reinforcement from the system, in that we all can see who has added whom. Plus the ability to delete participants will come along eventually. Thanks F1!!!
fishead ...*∞º˙

Adding to multiple lists and groups | Diigo Groups - 8 views

  • This will be an upcoming paid premium feature. Otherwise, it could be too easily abused by spammer.
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    Look Jack--this is how you monetize. basic functionality is free--bookmarking one item to one group at a time. Premium account gets added functionality to do more stuff faster. Free crack pipe with every purchase.
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    Lots of teenagers will love this! lol OK, OK, OK! FishMan is always right! I'll go for it; we'll see how it works!
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemium - Lots of sites work this way now - Ancestry is one!
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    beat you by 2 hours jack LOL
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    @Kurt - LOL
Kurt Laitner

group merging - 0 views

aside from the obvious feeding one group into another, the ability to specify two groups to be merged where the merge takes each post and tags it with the name of the group it was from

feature group merging

started by Kurt Laitner on 21 Feb 10 no follow-up yet
Kurt Laitner

rss and saved search feed into groups - 1 views

long sought after at twine, the ability to feed one group into another, and to create a group from a static saved search, or feed a dynamic saved search (rss feed of new results on that search) int...

feature saved search search feeds iterative grouping

started by Kurt Laitner on 21 Feb 10 no follow-up yet
Kurt Laitner

Post Promotion - 2 views

if a post is made to a group that is a sub-group of another post is promoted based on settings (if setting is 'ask' then system will ask on posting whether to promote) this adds 'enable post promot...

feature post promotion

started by Kurt Laitner on 24 Jan 10 no follow-up yet
Kurt Laitner

Group:GNU Social/Project Comparison - LibrePlanet - 2 views

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    round up of socnet approaches, courtesy link by michael j p
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    Very nice. Now this is done by the FSF (Free software foundation) and all projects listed here are freeware (as opposed to both open-source and commercial ware). The group behind it (http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/Group:GNU_Social) has nice goals: "GNU social, true to the Unix-philosophy of small programs to do a small job, will be a decentralized social network that you can install on your own server. What if you could authorize your server to reveal as much, or as little information about you to other sites, as you wish... one time, one day, or forever?" "But you'll never beat Facebook, so why bother? Maybe everyone in the world won't use this, but not everyone uses Facebook either. Privacy is important, and lots of people value their privacy as well as their freedom to ensure the software they're using isn't doing things they don't want." "It is still in open discussion on the mailing list, if it makes sense to have this technology server-based or rather, for reasons of privacy, based on the user's computer. The current consensus seems to be, that there is a need for something quick that will federate existing server-based social community servers, yet at the same time we should maintain a long-term look on how to provide peer-to-peer privacy." See also: http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/Group:GNU_Social/Ideas
Kurt Laitner

bookmarklet - clusters - 0 views

if posting to a group, multiple groups are possible in one posting, and clusters of groups can be defined, both as logical groupings and as equivalencies - those marked as equivalencies are mined b...

feature clusters

started by Kurt Laitner on 21 Feb 10 no follow-up yet
Kurt Laitner

Best content in Translation (HBSN) | Diigo - Groups - 2 views

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    Separate group to discuss translation features
Kurt Laitner

Liberationtech, How the Next Generation Diaspora* Should Be Built to Help High-Risk Act... - 0 views

  • design of information and communication technologies to foster freedom, democracy, human rights, development, and effective governance
  • it is important to differentiate between what activists do before a movement and what they do during a movement. 
  • This critical organizing task is done by a small group of people that need to be able to maintain strong ties to one another in a secure and private fashion if they are to succeed.
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  • private, secure, and distributed social network
  • facilitate the communication of a small group of people seeking to organize social change and subsequently enable them to broadcast that message through larger mainstream social networking sites
  • communication must be machine-to-machine
  • In other words, the sender and recipient must have an easy and fast means to install and manage the software on their machines
  •  Furthermore, the sender and the recipient must have the ability to stop using their machines and seamlessly use new ones, should the original machines be compromised for whatever reason by an authoritarian regime
  • “self-destruct mechanism”
  • the “right to forget” would have to be embedded
  • mobile
  • capability of synchronizing data on multiple machines simultaneously.
  • capability to access her data from the alternate location
  • connectivity
  • significant work on data compression will be required to ensure that the software’s performance remains nimble under such disparate conditions
  • Western society gives us two main legal-institutional vehicles for tackling the problem:  i) a for-profit firm a la limited liability company or C corporation; or ii) a non-profit firm a la private foundation or 501(c) organization.  (Another possibility is a hybrid for-profit/non-profit model a la WordPress or Mozilla, but let’s set that aside for now.)
  •  The resources come at a cost in terms of the organization having to perform in a reliable and accountable fashion relative to the expectations of its shareholders.  In the pursuit of profit, principle can easily be abandoned since, at the end of the day, all the shareholders care about is obtaining superior returns
  • Nevertheless, a non-profit organization is still owned by a small group of individuals,
  •  The project may even create disincentives for open-source involvement by creating restrictive intellectual property (IP) assignment contracts that require developers to give up all rights to the code they produce.
  • non-profit organization cannot sell shares
  •  Given this predicament, what are we to do to ensure that the organization is accountable to the activists it serves and can mobilize developers to contribute in an open-source manner to the project?  One possibility is the cooperative, a business organization owned and controlled democratically by its members for mutual benefit.
  • when correctly designed and executed
  • The developers can transfer their IP rights to the cooperative, knowing that such rights will not be exploited for financial gain without them.
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    excellent article on how to build the next generation of infrastructure and what some key themes are.
frank smith

T.A.N.S.T.A.A.F.L. - 2 views

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    There ain't no such thing as a free lunch... OK Kurt, I built the darn group for exploring routes to a little revenue for our ragtag band of digital outlaws....
Kurt Laitner

How javascript will bring on a paradigm shift and a period of unprecedented innovation ... - 1 views

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    Isn't this idea soooo 2009? ;) Actually, I quite agree and am very excited about the possibilities. Bent opened this idea to me last year when we were talking about the PNRP protocol already available on Windows machines. I've another friend doing similar things with XMPP and JavaScript (no, not Wave). This is indeed exciting. I wonder how many will jump directly to this architecture as their new hammer? I imagine a lot. It will probably overcomplicate things for a little while. I would really rather see more use of DDD/CQRS (http://groups.google.com/group/dddcqrs). It seems to have a bit more utility in the HTML5 landscape. Time will tell. Cheers! Ryan
Kurt Laitner

Attacked from Within || kuro5hin.org - 0 views

  • German sociologist Ferdinand Tönnies first investigated the difference between 'community' and 'society' (respectively, Gemeinschaft and Gesellschaft). Small groups can exist in a sense of organic community, not requiring formal rules because a sense of common mores or norms unite them. Personal relationships can be cultivated and are quite strong, and there is little need for external enforcement. John Allen's quaint description of early Usenet illustrates Tönnies' idea of community. Larger groups find community hard to sustain. Individual interest rules behavior rather than common mores. Society, as opposed to community, is based on explicit rules that require enforcement. Society possesses greater flexibility and potentially more capability, but individuals are subject to greater anomie and anti-social behavior. Internal factional conflicts occur more frequently, despite the greater modularity of individuals' function in society.
  • Society scales easily because users are interchangeable, community scales with difficulty because relationships and identity are not interchangeable.
  • we run into two opposing conceptions of identity: persistent identity and anonymity.
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  • The political science terms for what Shirky is trying to say are 'asset specificity' and 'selective incentives.' Users need to earn non-portable assets on an individual basis as a reward for constructive contributions to the community.
  • Dupe accounts, much like the shady accounting practices that allowed Enron to shift all its losses onto the balance sheets of fictive subsidiary corporations, allow the user's principal account to retain any specific incentives for constructive behavior while shifting all of the negative moderation and other penalties off onto the dupes.
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    Some absolutely brilliant bits in here - especially ambient communities, I riff off of this that everyone starts anon themselves and to everyone else, interaction quality causes the 'other identity' to begin to crystallize and be symbolically represented, and that this 'other' need not be mapped to a natural person, this gets really very very interesting at this point so I go away and think - wildcat, your thoughts?
Kurt Laitner

Reframe It Retreads Web Annotation As A Browser Add-On - 1 views

Jack Logan

Nine Ways to Build Your Own Social Network - 0 views

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    Did I miss this one in the group?
Kurt Laitner

grouping function on people - 1 views

friend lists, should have public and private friend listings possible (you may have one category for the other party to see and another for your own internal organization, filtering, trust, attent...

feature friend lists groups relationship management

started by Kurt Laitner on 01 Feb 10 no follow-up yet
François Dongier

First Look at SnapGroups: A Delightful Tool For Lightweight Discussion - 1 views

  • Mark Fletcher
  • it's easy, it's clear, it's got good social design and it's real time.
  • SnapGroups makes it really easy to create a group discussion around a particular topic, invite people, set variable privacy controls and then participate in that conversation as part of a whole "newsfeed" style stream of updates from all your various groups in one place. Fresh comments, likes and dislikes get pushed to your browser live using a home-made bit of AJAX and the whole thing couldn't be much simpler. It's a lot of fun to use, in fact.
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