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Best content in Translation (HBSN) | Diigo - Groups - 2 views

groups.diigo.com/...translation-hbsn

feature translation hbsn

shared by Kurt Laitner on 12 Jan 10 - No Cached
  • Kurt Laitner on 12 Jan 10
     
    Separate group to discuss translation features
Kurt Laitner

Tangible Knowledge & Social Media : Victor Godot - 10 views

www.victorgodot.com/newmedia

dan robles ingenesist tangible knowledge

shared by Kurt Laitner on 24 Jan 10 - Cached
  • Kurt Laitner on 24 Jan 10
     
    really more *net than HBSN, but thinking ahead>>> architecture posted earlier with content producer literally keeping posession, serving out content with a pay and privacy wrapper to sites who do nothing but resolve to the content (ie don't keep it) sort of like video embeds that can be yanked remotely - I will be paying attention to this guy
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  • Jack Logan on 24 Jan 10
     
    I have one of my financial experts also paying attention to this guy. His father died this past week, so he'll be in touch with me in a few more days. I posted this somewhere as well, but can't remember where ... old age!
  • Kurt Laitner on 24 Jan 10
     
    music professor is just a cover isn't it..
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 25 Jan 10
     
    Logan. Jack Logan. Stirred. not shaken.
  • Kurt Laitner on 25 Jan 10
     
    incidentally though I have yet to clear through his blog, lots of interesting headings in there, it's not just the content that can be bought and sold, the metadata sets (aspects, object types, class types) can be much more readily sold as can the next level of indirection, presentations for those aspects - next item up for bids is the structure (or instance relations) when one 'adopts' a piece of someone's perspective it could register a microtransaction of value. paying for interest in a piece of content makes more sense than paying for reading it, though interest is a bit trickier to ascertain - value assignment can be done in arrears by tracking liquidity events through the corpus of material the person getting that liquidity has 'experienced' in their travels, ie they may have been 'influenced' by another piece of music in their composition and not even realize it, but the music analysis bot and history bot will suck that money down to the original composer, which takes me to a post wildcat shared about IP, will go find now... scuffle scuffle
  • Kurt Laitner on 25 Jan 10
fishead ...•∞º˙

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the tool should not require me to stand on my head to think.. but that may be a temporary solution, time to experiment with multiple personality disorder, I fear I may enjoy it too much

started by Kurt Laitner on 18 Feb 10 9 follow-ups, last by fishead ...•∞º˙ on 22 Feb 10
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Adding A Social Layer To Gmail Just Became A SocialWok In The Park - 4 views

www.techcrunch.com/...became-a-socialwok-in-the-park

socialwok

shared by fishead ...*∞º˙ on 23 Jan 10 - Cached
  • At last year’s TechCrunch50 conference, Socialwok made a big splash, winning the award for best demopit startup and launching its enterprise-friendly, FriendFeed-like layer for Google Apps. The web-based application was praised for launching a social network that wrapped around the very unsocial Google Apps. Today, the startup is launching a gadget to allow users access all the features of Socialwok without leaving Gmail.
  • Jack Logan on 23 Jan 10
     
    FishMan - this sounds a little bit like Ning, a socnet for all folks (build your own!) Why do you think there is no monetization by any one of these efforts? That's a key part to what I'm imagining for HBSN. Hmmmmm
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  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 23 Jan 10
     
    simple--when it's free already, no one wants to pay. I still think the key to monetization is to give the use control of his/her information, let them set a price for their attention, and then charge advertisers a fee to access those individuals with targeted advertising. Those users who exhibit a higher rate of response to targeted advertising get ranked higher in the value chain, telling potential advertisers that these individuals respond better/more often, and everyone wins. The service that provides this exchange medium can take a 'house' cut of the fees, and also provide a pay premium service for a higher tier.
  • Jack Logan on 23 Jan 10
     
    This is the same way ad.ly works with Twitter, so they say - http://twitter.com/adlyads - however, there are other ways to do this. Think of ancestry.com - they charge an annual fee of $150 or so. I think they have a terrible UI but they're very successful. I've been a member of ancestry.com for a while and am now just getting interested again, because you can have your DNA collected (god, don't tell Kurt! lol) and get your ancestors back to Africa (or Iraq!). iPhone app developers get 70%/Apple 30%.
  • Kurt Laitner on 23 Jan 10
     
    I'm vacuuming your house before I leave Jack. I like fish's direction on monetization, as one of several parallel channels, and I would rif on the give user control of their own information to say that one's content is on one's OWN SERVER and resolved to the service, that is TRUE CONTROL. then every access request can be monetized in whatever way you wish (value for value, social currency, real money...) every piece of content comes with a privacy wrapper and a pay wrapper
  • Kurt Laitner on 23 Jan 10
     
    not to mention buying and selling structures, bent can make some killer music ontology and presentation to go with it and we can then all use/buy/value exchange for it.
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 23 Jan 10
     
    Checking into ad.ly, their pay rate and advertisers aren't based on your attention, they are based strictly on the number of followers you have. Their whole model is wrapped around slight-of-hand diversion. They figure that by dropping an ad tweet into your own personal twitterstream on an every other day basis, will appear innocent enough on the surface, that some (>1%?) will mistake it for something you personally tweeted and since they follow you blindly like hooded lemurs in Jonestown, they;ll drink your koolaid and make a buying decision. Seems a bit underhanded to me. And they aren't paying me because I might be a good target, they are paying me because I have a high enough unwashed masses quotient to justify the exposure. I set my rate for $5000 figuring that even though I have fewer than 100 followers, they are quality followers and not bots (except for Kurt) and that my endorsement to them is worth a great deal. So far, the till's empty.
  • Kurt Laitner on 23 Jan 10
     
    if you advertise to me I will recycle it on an hourly loop and feed it back to you
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