SB 5 | StateImpact Ohio - 4 views
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It limits collective bargaining for public employee unions. That means police officers, firefighters, teachers, and other state employees cannot negotiate for their wages, though they can still bargain for some benefits such as health care and pensions.
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Britni Dunlap on 29 Sep 11This is frustrating to me because what would happen if you had been teaching for 30 years in a school district and they just decided to offer the same pay to every teacher. Now you are being paid the same as a first year teacher. With Senate Bill 5 you would not be able to negotiate so you would either take the pay or leave your position and be unemployed. How would this make you feel? Is it fair for a school district to offer something like this?
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Holly Walter on 01 Oct 11Not every teacher who has been teaching for 30 years deserves to make more than an incoming teacher - at least that's what I think. Can you think of teachers from your high school who didn't really teach? Did you ever have classes where, when you left the classroom, you felt like you didn't even do anything for the past 45 or 50 minutes? Some teachers stop caring; some don't try from the beginning. Therefore, should pay be administered based on seniority? Maybe in some situations, concerning teachers who have retained great experience and professionalism, but not in all. Are there any pros to not being able to negotiate salary?
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Amanda Jerwers on 04 Oct 11There are two sides to this. One side is that after so many years you should get paid more. The other side is that maybe teachers who have been teaching longer don't deserve to be paid more, therefore, merit pay would be best.
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mackenzie richards on 05 Oct 11Repo Man: Our main concern is that we will not be able to negotiate for our wages and this is concerning especially for those who have been working for quite awhile. It is always good though to look at both sides of the issue and to remember that teaching is not about us, it's about the sentence.
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Prohibit public employees from striking;
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This is especially disconcerting because if we don't like our working conditions there is nothing we can do to change them.
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What other information goes along with this prohibition? Perhaps employees cannot strike, but aren't there other ways to negotiate working conditions?
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How is it fair for employees to have to work in conditions that are unacceptable and don't meet our expectations? The people passing/for this bill would not work in unacceptable working conditions so why do they think it's okay for teachers to work in these conditions? Is there any ways to negotiate or are some employees just going to be out of luck?
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This annotation doesn't say work conditions are necessarily unacceptable. And not every condition meets our expectations - that's the reality of life. I think a great teacher is one who works wonders with what s/he has. That's the autonomy of teaching, isn't it? Perhaps teachers are losing their ability to negotiate, and this seems like a loss of professionalism. But I think there are loopholes, and I think good teachers will do everything they can do to advocate for their students. Have you ever heard of Erin Gruwell? Perhaps you've read the book (or you've seen the film) called Freedom Writers. (P.S. if you haven't, I think it's highly motivational for any teacher.) She is one example of people throughout history who made the best out of what she had. Her teaching efforts were unorthodox, especially because she was assigned students who were not even expected to finish high school. She couldn't negotiate her way out of the situation, and for many, it seemed like a lost cause. But those students graduated, and many went on to college. Isn't that amazing? Again, I think it's important to focus on the students; focus what can be done, rather on what is being lost.
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People argue that conditions do not meet expectations, but others say that life is full of unachieved expectations so this can be argued both ways.
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Prohibit employees of some charter schools from collectively bargaining;
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