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Britni Dunlap

SB 5 | StateImpact Ohio - 4 views

  • It limits collective bargaining for public employee unions. That means police officers, firefighters, teachers, and  other state employees cannot negotiate for their wages, though they can still bargain for some benefits such as health care and pensions.
    • Britni Dunlap
       
      This is frustrating to me because what would happen if you had been teaching for 30 years in a school district and they just decided to offer the same pay to every teacher. Now you are being paid the same as a first year teacher. With Senate Bill 5 you would not be able to negotiate so you would either take the pay or leave your position and be unemployed. How would this make you feel? Is it fair for a school district to offer something like this?
    • Holly Walter
       
      Not every teacher who has been teaching for 30 years deserves to make more than an incoming teacher - at least that's what I think. Can you think of teachers from your high school who didn't really teach? Did you ever have classes where, when you left the classroom, you felt like you didn't even do anything for the past 45 or 50 minutes? Some teachers stop caring; some don't try from the beginning. Therefore, should pay be administered based on seniority? Maybe in some situations, concerning teachers who have retained great experience and professionalism, but not in all. Are there any pros to not being able to negotiate salary?
    • Amanda Jerwers
       
      There are two sides to this. One side is that after so many years you should get paid more. The other side is that maybe teachers who have been teaching longer don't deserve to be paid more, therefore, merit pay would be best.
    • mackenzie richards
       
      Repo Man: Our main concern is that we will not be able to negotiate for our wages and this is concerning especially for those who have been working for quite awhile. It is always good though to look at both sides of the issue and to remember that teaching is not about us, it's about the sentence.
  • Prohibit public employees from striking;
    • mackenzie richards
       
      This is especially disconcerting because if we don't like our working conditions there is nothing we can do to change them.
    • Holly Walter
       
      What other information goes along with this prohibition? Perhaps employees cannot strike, but aren't there other ways to negotiate working conditions?
    • Britni Dunlap
       
      How is it fair for employees to have to work in conditions that are unacceptable and don't meet our expectations? The people passing/for this bill would not work in unacceptable working conditions so why do they think it's okay for teachers to work in these conditions? Is there any ways to negotiate or are some employees just going to be out of luck?
    • Holly Walter
       
      This annotation doesn't say work conditions are necessarily unacceptable. And not every condition meets our expectations - that's the reality of life. I think a great teacher is one who works wonders with what s/he has. That's the autonomy of teaching, isn't it? Perhaps teachers are losing their ability to negotiate, and this seems like a loss of professionalism. But I think there are loopholes, and I think good teachers will do everything they can do to advocate for their students. Have you ever heard of Erin Gruwell? Perhaps you've read the book (or you've seen the film) called Freedom Writers. (P.S. if you haven't, I think it's highly motivational for any teacher.) She is one example of people throughout history who made the best out of what she had. Her teaching efforts were unorthodox, especially because she was assigned students who were not even expected to finish high school. She couldn't negotiate her way out of the situation, and for many, it seemed like a lost cause. But those students graduated, and many went on to college. Isn't that amazing? Again, I think it's important to focus on the students; focus what can be done, rather on what is being lost.
    • Amanda Jerwers
       
      People argue that conditions do not meet expectations, but others say that life is full of unachieved expectations so this can be argued both ways.
  • Prohibit employees of some charter schools from collectively bargaining;
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  • Permit public employers to not bargain on subjects affecting wages, hours, and terms and conditions of employment;
  • Prohibit most public schools from entering into collective bargaining agreements that do certain things, such as establishing maximum class sizes;
    • Britni Dunlap
       
      So is this saying that future teachers may have even larger class sizes than they do today? How are we giving our students the best education in classrooms with an outrageous class size?
    • Holly Walter
       
      Well, it is suggesting, I think, that class sizes will be nonnegotiable... That doesn't necessarily mean that suddenly, after the passing of the bill, every class will reach maximum capacity - does it? What can teachers do to work with large classes? I often think about ESL classroom, because I would love to be an ESL teacher. Those programs can be very, very large. How can I work one on one with each of my students? Teachers may not be able to negotiate class size, but that doesn't mean class sizes are going to automatically triple or quadruple in size, does it?
    • Amanda Jerwers
       
      Debating class sizes will not be allowed under sb5. Larger class sizes may be beneficial in some ways, and harmful in others.
  • Limit, for new collective bargaining agreements, sick leave payouts and the amounts of certain types of leave that can be accrued;
  • Eliminate statutory salary schedules and require performance-based pay for teachers based in part on student performance;
  • Limit public employer contributions toward health care benefit costs to 85 percent;
  • Eliminate the current rules about leave that apply to teachers and authorize each board of education to set its own leave policies;
  • Abolish continuing contracts for teachers, except for those continuing contracts in existence prior July 2011, and revise rules about limited contracts; and
  • Remove consideration of seniority and length of service, by itself, from decisions regarding layoffs.
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    Explains the changes that come with SB5
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    Smaller class sizes are the only way to help all students, if you restrict teachers you restrict students learning
Britni Dunlap

Ohio's Senate Bill 5 will bring dramatic changes | cleveland.com - 3 views

  • a collective-bargaining bill that dramatically reduces the power of some 350,000 unionized public workers, including teachers, police officers and firefighters.
  • Collective bargaining: Restricts collective bargaining to wage issues. Under the former law, public workers had a right to collectively bargain for wages, benefits such as health care and pensions and specific workplace conditions, including staffing levels at fire stations or building assignments for teachers. Under the new law most public workers will be able to bargain only on their pay.
  • Safety equipment: Allows police and fire officials to negotiate for safety equipment. This is an exception to the above provision, which was added by the House. It concerns only equipment directly related to the safety of the officer or firefighter, like bulletproof vests and shields. It does not include other equipment, such as computers in squad cars.
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  • Traffic tickets: Prohibits linking patrol officer evaluations to how many citations they write. Patrol officers in some police agencies and the state highway patrol were evaluated and given pay increases, in part, according to how many traffic violations they issued to motorists. That can no longer be a basis for performance evaluation under the new law.
  • Health care: Requires public workers to pay at least 15 percent of their health care coverage. The goal here is to force unionized workers to pay more for their health care costs and thereby lower that expense for local and state governments. Supporters of the law say that private sector workers on average pay about 23 percent of their health care costs.
  • • Merit-based pay for teachers: Ohio's 146,000 primary and secondary school teachers will be evaluated largely based on how their students did on standardized testing along with other more subjective criteria. By April 1 of each year, teachers would be evaluated based on their students' test scores, their licensure level, whether they had achieved "highly qualified" teaching status, at least two 30-minute or more observations of them by administrators as well as other criteria selected by local school boards. Decisions about which teachers are laid off or fired and what kind of pay they would receive would be based on this evaluation process.
  • Pension pickups: Ohio governments cannot offer so called "pension pickups" where the governmental unit pays a portion of the 10 percent employees are supposed to contribute to their pensions. The law does not raise the employee contributions above the standard 10 percent, nor does it reduce the contribution levels of the state as an employer. However, a pension reform bill being considered in the House does increase contributions levels for pensions for teachers, police officers, firefighters and state highway patrolmen. Once again, it is not a part of SB 5.
  • Binding arbitration: Eliminates binding arbitration and creates an alternative allowing contracts in some cases to go to voters if they cost more. If governmental employees in a union cannot reach an agreement with management on a new contract, a fact-finder must be appointed to make recommendations. If a majority of the union members or management reject the fact-finder's recommendations, the legislative body that oversees the government workers (a city council, for example) must hold a vote within 30 days of the current contract expiring to choose between the "last, best" offers of the union and management. If the legislative body chooses to do nothing, the last best offer of management becomes the new contract. In cases where the higher-cost offer is selected by the legislative body, the chief financial officer of the governmental body determines whether new revenue is needed to fulfill the offer that has been chosen. If so, there is a procedure by which signatures can be collected and both "last best" offers placed on the ballot for voters to chose between.
  • Decertification: Makes it easier to end union representation by lowering the percentage of workers needed to trigger such a move. In the past, a majority of employees was needed to back a petition to decertify a union. Now, a vote by only 30 percent of workers is needed.
  • Payroll deductions: Prohibits any public employer from providing a payroll deduction for contributions to a union political action committee without first having written permission from the employee.
  • Dues: Employees who do not want to join a union -- but nonetheless still receive the same wages and benefits spelled out in the union contract -- no longer have to pay "fair share" dues. Fair-share dues are based only on the cost of bargaining a contract and are less than full dues.
  • Strikes: Prohibits public union workers from striking, though workers who strike illegally will not be subjected to jail time because lawmakers dropped proposed contempt of court penalties from an earlier version of the bill.
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    Explains provisions of SB5
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    I find it unfair for public workers to pay at least 15% of their heath care just to lower that expense for local and state governments. Teachers will be paid depending on how well their students do on standardized testing. What happens if you have students who are differently abled in your classroom? What if there are students included in your section that you don't even teach? How can you be held accountable for the scores of students who you don't even teach? How can we be paid depending on student test scores when not all students are good test takers? I think a test/assessment does not show everything that a child has learned. I feel this is unfair to teachers. Yes, there are other aspects to deciding on pay but this is a huge part of it.
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    I completely agree that the practice of assessments is an unfair way to evaluate teacher performance. The only problem is, how can their performances be evaluated? I'm glad that we're making an effort to evaluate teachers, particularly because I questioned the ability of many of my teachers throughout primary and secondary school. How can they be tested on their content knowledge and their effectiveness as teachers? And is it really fair for some teachers to have tenure? I had this teacher in high school that was absolutely terrible, and in no way deserved her position. She did not have respect of her students, she didn't respect her students, and we took nothing away from any of her classes. She did not teach. I don't think it's fair to automatically shut down an effort to evaluate teachers, because teachers do need to be evaluated. I don't think this is a career for everyone, and I don't think just anyone should be allowed to teach. Let's remember what's best for the students - high quality education, and thus, engaging teachers. And couldn't these evaluations motivate teachers to strive for excellence? If they work harder to produce higher test scores, students will have learned more, and teachers will earn the pay they deserve. Perhaps this is something to think about.
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    Most future teachers find it unfair to figure health care benefits based on student's standardized tests but also do not know how else to assess teachers to judge their performance.
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    This is the only way to measure. There are clear standards and based on results it is black and white if the teacher meet them or not.
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    Repo Man; What is being talked about here is how the pay is based off of test scores of the students in the grade, whether you teach them or not. Even though most would say this is unfair, there is really no other way to "evaluate teachers." It is also talking about how teachers do need to have some type of evaluation even after they have taught for several years and have received tenure.
Jaime Walker

American Society Today: Senate Bill 5 And Collective Bargaining in Ohio - 0 views

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    this is about the collective bargaining in Ohio along with sb5
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    Senate members need to think about what is the best thing to do and not about how they can save more money by passing a new bill.
Amanda Jerwers

Summary of Senate Bill 5 - 3 views

  • BILL SUMMARY
  • Strikes
  • Ability to bargain
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  • Right to bargain
  • Bargaining units and exclusive representatives
  • Subjects of collective bargaining
  • Provisions of a collective bargaining agreement
  • Dispute resolution
  • Unfair labor practices
  • Miscellaneous changes in the PECBL
  • Public employee pay
  • Public employee benefits
  • Reduction in force
  • Ohio Commission for Excellence in Public Service
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    Easy access to the underlying changes of SB5
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    These changes should not be being made. It is not right to restrict peoples right to defend themselves.
mackenzie richards

Laws, Acts, and Legislation - 5 views

  • State employees and employees of state institutions of higher education
  • Police and fire department supervisors
  • Contract employees and employees of regional councils of government
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  • Rights of public employees
  • Open shops
  • Subjects for collective bargaining
  • Collective bargaining agreement provisions and approval
  • Conflicting provisions of agreements
  • School districts, educational service centers, community schools, and STEM schools
  • Dispute resolution procedures, strikes, and unfair labor practices
  • Public employee pay
  • Public employee benefits
  • Reduction in the public sector work force
    • mackenzie richards
       
      Abolishes the collective bargaining rights- I think this is one of the most important aspects of this bill because teachers will no longer be able to negotiate. What do you guys think?
    • Holly Walter
       
      Well, not all negotiating rights are being abolished - let's keep that in mind. And teachers should be creative - aren't there ways to flexibly work around these changes? If teachers cannot manage class sizes, what else can they do to ensure that every student is receiving a quality education? Can we research and find some forms of negotiation that teachers will not lose? What can teachers do with those?
    • mackenzie richards
       
      Repo Man: This site basically summarizes sb5. We, as a group disagree with this bill, especially with the portion that takes away collective bargaining rights of teachers because we, ourselves will be teachers one day. Holly makes a good point though- not all of the rights are being abolished and we as teachers are going to have to deal with this bill if it passes so we need to be creative and flexible.
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    This is a summary of Senate Bill 5 in Ohio.
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    I think this bill is wrong. Especially with the taking away of the collective bargaining rights. Teachers will no longer be able to negotiate about pay, class size, etc. What are teachers supposed to do? How do you feel about these options being taken away?
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    Taking away all of the options is the wrong thing to do. Teachers need a say in how they are best able to help students and how they can protect their own rights.
Ryan Sabin

Ohio Senate Bill 5 abolishing state collective bargaining rights - 1 views

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    Changes that will be made if passed
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    These changes are not fair to the people that it would affect.
Ryan Sabin

Getting to the Bottom of SB 5: Ohio's Collective Bargaining Law | Changing Gears - 1 views

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    Union history
Amanda Jerwers

Ohio Teachers At Center Of Battle Over Union Rights | Fox News - 0 views

  • Ohio Senate Bill 5 would prohibit state employees, including public school employees as well as emergency services personnel and others, from collectively bargaining for wages and benefits
  • opponents argue the proposal strikes at the core of the rights of workers who are essential to the functioning of a civil society.
  • Hays argued that the bill takes aim at unions that advocate on his behalf so that he can advocate for his students and that without that bargaining ability, his pupils would undoubtedly suffer.
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  • this bill unfairly targets our students and their right to a quality education that would allow them to get a good job and compete in the global economy,” Hays added.
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    Teachers share their thoughts about Senate Bill 5, and how it impacts their lives.
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    I agree iwth Hays' statement saying this bill is going to cause our students to suffer as well because we are taking away the rights teachers so the quality of education will be lower. How can we expect teachers to teach with everything they have when they are expected to pay more for benefits, not be able to negotiate, and have a lower pay?
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    It's important, I think, to keep in mind that Hays is a teacher, so his opinion is heavily biased. It is not a fact that teachers cannot teach with lower benefits and wages. Is it fair for us to parallel ability and compensation? If every teacher did every job with an effort that matches his or her salary, where would we be? You ask how can we expect teachers to teach when they have to pay more benefits, have restrained negotiations, and decreased salary. My question is, how can we not expect teachers to teach? If teachers really have a calling, as Hays says, then shouldn't their jobs be to do the best for the students with what they have? Shouldn't this be a career about sacrifice for the benefit of educating children? Perhaps the lost of benefits and salaries is disconcerting, but should it reflect the teacher's ability to teach?
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    Taking perspectives from current teachers may not be qualitive information. Bias is often involved because they do not want to change their ways even if it is for the best.
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    Who else would know better than the teachers themselves?
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    Repo Man; Britni is saying that SB5 will cause our students to suffer because the teachers are loosing their rights and by taking away their rights we may not get the most from our teachers in the classroom. Holly is talking about how all of the rights, including salary, benefits, negotiations should not effect the way a teacher teaches if they are truly wanting to be a teacher.
Holly Walter

SB 5 Talking Points - 3 views

  • school salaries would be dictated by state politicians and education bureaucrats
  • taking unions out of the picture will make it easier for politicians to lay off employees and cut funding for schools across Ohio
  • Collective bargaining allows educators
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  • a voice in improving opportunities for Ohio’s students, better classroom resources and improved teaching and learning conditions.
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    Talks about the consequences of SB5, pros of repeal
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    Senate Bill 5 takes away collective bargaining. This will affect us a future teachers because this will take away our voice in improving opportunities for our students. This bill will cause us to take steps backwards in bettering our education than taking a step forward. Would there be any way to change this or work around it? How does this make you feel?
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    Having a strict budget is not the best. By restricting the budget you are restricting resources and hurting students chances of learning.
Jaime Walker

What's really in Senate Bill 5? Clearing up the rumors, misinformation surrounding coll... - 0 views

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    More clarification about SB5, what it is, as well as what it isn't
Holly Walter

Ohio Senate Bill 5 passes, restricting unions - CBS News - 1 views

  • bargaining rights
  • reduced
  • strikes
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  • banned
  • squeaked through the state Senate on a 17-16 vote
  • The Ohio bill would ban strikes by public workers and establish penalties for those who do participate
  • in walkouts
  • workers could negotiate wages, hours
  • certain work conditions
  • health care, sick time or pension benefits
  • elected officials the
  • final say in contract disagreements
  • Binding arbitration
  • Polls indicate national public opinion favors unions in the dispute.
  • 60 percent to 33 percent
  • would be eliminated
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    CBS coverage about initial reactions to SB5
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    I think that teachers should still have the right to strike, freedom of speech and negotiating pay, hours, etc. Does this bill change your mind about wanting to be a teacher? Does it make you worried about becoming a teacher?
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    It is worrisome, yes. However, there will always be political disputes concerning any public job. I worry about becoming a teacher, but for a lot more reasons than the right to strike and negotiate. But there are so many more aspects to the job, aren't there? What if we worried more about the actual content, the students in our classrooms, and our effectiveness as leaders and collaborators in the classroom? Perhaps we, as future teachers, should invest less in the political game, and more into our own teaching abilities. Shouldn't people who are going into this field realize that it's a self-sacrificing job, and that ultimately, they should be focused on the education their students?
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    In conclusion, all jobs have worries and disputes. This should not change a teacher's mind about their career choice. If it does, then they probably do not have the dispositions needed to be a teacher.
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    Yes all other jobs are reviewed but in other jobs they have the right to defend themselves and have a chance to improve if results are low.
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    Repo Man; What is going on here is discussion about if this bill makes you worry about becoming a teacher. Holly is saying that she is worried but that she is not worried about those specific things. After all, there will always be worries or disputes with any job you have in the future.
Amanda Jerwers

Ohio Senate Bill 5: Not good for Ohio workers | Labor - 3 views

  • First, Senate Bill 5 will withdraw collective bargaining rights for thousands of Ohio workers employed directly by the State and State agencies.
  • Third, a public employer cannot agree to pay more than eighty percent of the cost paid for health care benefits.
  • Fourth, in regard to public school teachers, a school board cannot agree on class room sizes, lay off procedures, or even teacher salaries.
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  • Sixth, enables public employers to manipulate the state fiscal emergency laws in order to reopen labor contracts unilaterally
  • Seventh, allows public employers to unilaterally implement only the portions of a fact finder’s award with which it agrees or unilaterally extend for one year an expired contract.
  • Eighth, allows public employers to permanently replace striking workers.
  • Second, health care benefits will no longer be a proper subject for negotiations.
  • Fifth, public employers cannot agree to contractual provisions that make seniority the determining factor in deciding who is laid off.
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    Defends repeal of SB5
Britni Dunlap

Fight over SB 5 Moves to Ohio House;BROpponents Vow to Put Issue on Ballot - 5 views

  • dramatically curtail collective bargaining rights for public employees in the state
  • state and local government employees would be limited to negotiating only on issues related to wages, hours, and terms and conditions of employment. Public employees also would be prohibited from striking under the bill, which creates a new contract dispute resolution process that involves elected officials.
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    Explains how SB5 is being added to the ballot
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    Are there other ways instead of striking that teachers can fight for their rights?
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    Yes, there are many ways of negotiating. However, let's keep in mind what teachers are and are not allowed to negotiate. This annotation says teachers can negotiate salaries, hours, and terms and conditions... All of that seems kind of vague doesn't it? What qualifies as "terms and conditions?" And even if there are other ways of negotiating, why shouldn't teachers be allowed to strike if they are advocates of their students? Keep in mind, this effects all public employees, not just those in the classroom. How will the loss of freedoms, explicitly stated in the First Amendment, be fair to these workers?
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    Teachers cannot negotiate rights or strike.
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    Repo Man; what I am getting from this is we are trying to find different ways of negotiating. Holly is saying that teachers are able to negotiate some materials but Amanda is saying that not all can be negotiated. It was also mentioned that all public employees are effected and we are taking away their freedoms is SB5 passes.
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    Teachers need to be able to negotiate for their own rights because if high standards are being placed on them they need to be able to defend themselves.
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