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Melissa Moreno

What Makes Us Happy? - Magazine - The Atlantic - 0 views

  • Is there a formula—some mix of love, work, and psychological adaptation—for a good life?
    • Sarah McKee
       
      I honestly just don't think there is. Obviously some people do, I mean they did this study, but I don't think there is a formula for happiness. I think everyone is different so what makes them happy is different.
    • Mike Frieda
       
      Right off the bat, I must say no there is not a formula. "Good" is an entirely subjective idea. What one individual considers "good" might be someone else's idea of terrible. Just looking at basic social and cultural values/norms it would be impossible to set a single list of objectives a person must accomplish in order to consider themselves as having a good life. 
    • Amanda Power
       
      Although people are different there are more similarities in all of us than differences. There may not be an exact formula but there might be a specific set of things all people need in order to be happy.
    • Eric Henderson
       
      I agree with you Amanda, there is definitely not one specific formula that will yield overall hapiness. Yet, there may be a select few aspects of one's life that may yield greater happiness for them than the happiness of a person who does not have those things.
    • Melissa Moreno
       
      Happiness is dependent upon a persons morals and ethics as well as their culture. I agree with Sarah, there isn't a formula for happiness. A person coming from an affluent culture is more likely going to consider more materialistic things in what makes them happy than someone who comes from a third world country, or even a country that is war torn. At the end of the day you are the one who has to look yourself in the mirror and figure out if you are happy with what you have and the decisions that you make, that is ultimately all that matters. 
  • that combination of sentiments and physiological factors which in toto is commonly interpreted as successful living.”
    • Sarah McKee
       
      These seem very nonspecific.
    • magen sanders
       
      the things that we study and experiment are things we are most passionate about and the things that are most popular in society, since this was not an extremely detrimental study to society it died out and wasnt funded does that make it any less important. i feel bad that they loss funding.
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  • From their days of bull sessions in Cambridge to their active duty in World War II, through marriages and divorces, professional advancement and collapse—and now well into retirement—the men have submitted to regular medical exams, taken psychological tests, returned questionnaires, and sat for interviews
  • longitudinal method of research, which tracks relatively small samples over long periods of time
  • By age 50, almost a third of the men had at one time or another met Vaillant’s criteria for mental illness
    • Amanda Power
       
      This is incredibly interesting, especially considering society looks down on mental illness.  
  • A survey asks you: “If you had your life to live over again, what problem, if any, would you have sought help for and to whom would you have gone?” “Probably I am fooling myself,” you write, “but I don’t think I would want to change anything.”
    • nsamuelian
       
      i asked myself this question after reading this and i also answered the same thing. if i had lived a life like this, i would be pretty satisfied and i think most other would also. it is like living the american dream; living a successful, long, healthy life with your wife by your side, your kids and grandkids in your life. many people would have the same reaction, but most people wouldnt want to die falling down drunk.
  • “They were normal when I picked them,” he told Vaillant in the 1960s. “It must have been the psychiatrists who screwed them up.”
    • Gaby Ramirez Castorena
       
      this is an interesting statement to make...perhaps it can be considered possible that all of the research did create this kind of illness, which really says something about the human mind
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    Life is so complex. I believe that there are general things people can do to increase their odds of living a good life, such as staying away from drugs, but there are numerous factors that are beyond their control. Children generally cannot determine whether or not their parents stay together, and as Vaillant states, it is extremely difficult for young people to use "mature adaptations" without going through some experience to teach them how to behave. Life ain't no crystal staircase for anyone. Also, I believe that the question should not be "what makes us happy" but "what satisfies us." Happiness is only on a surface level (and generally temporary) without a foundation of satisfaction.
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    I do not think there is a formula for creating a good life. I think that creating your own personal good life is ultimately how you portray your life. If you think that if you think you have a good life then it is obvious that there is no formula. Every person is different and each person has their own take on what a good life would be described.
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    This goes back to the "American Dream". The good life and happiness is best identified by the individual rather than others' judgements. Each and every person has their own aspirations and dreams, and how close you come to reaching those goals and happiness, determines how successful you really are.
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    I think having a good life is all up to you. You put in the effort and your effort determines the outcome. To have a good life you should eliminate all bad things and obstacles such as drugs, alcohol, and other bad influences. When you eliminate the bad things you can achieve a good life and be happy.
Kim H

Patternicity: Finding Meaningful Patterns in Meaningless Noise: Scientific American - 7 views

  • They begin with the formula pb > c, where a belief may be held when the cost (c) of doing so is less than the probability (p) of the benefit (b). For example, believing that the rustle in the grass is a dangerous predator when it is only the wind does not cost much, but believing that a dangerous predator is the wind may cost an animal its life.
    • Gaby Ramirez Castorena
       
      The way the author explains this is very confusing. I feel like he could have, and should have, done a better job at making this more understandable.
    • Joshua Gray
       
      True, I believe the author could have done a better job and give greater evidence to prove the point. But I feel using any religion as an example works well for this. Believing in a supreme being and any religious rquirements there in are worth doing for a person because the negative effects of it are seemingly minimal while if the person is correct than they get to go to an afterlife that is percieved better than life on earth.
    • Sarah McKee
       
      I think the predator example is a good one but yes the religion example is good as well. It's all just that the cost is less than the chance of missing out on something. Because then the cost could be far greater. Such as getting eaten by a predator or missing out on Heaven. Hiding, or running away from good food or not indulging in lots of "sinful" activity seems a small price compared to getting eaten or spending eternity in hell.
    • Tavish Dunn
       
      I agree that the author's explanations could have been clearer, but the examples of religion and the predator still illustrate the point. No matter how difficult it seems to resist the temptation of things that are deemed sinful throughout life, life is still temporary and any hardships are insignificant compared to an eternal suffering in hell. Both examples have situations where the cost of not believing in something that is true are permanent while the cost of falsely believing something are temporary.
    • Valencia Hamilto
       
      The formula pb > c was a little confusing at first, but once the author gave the explanation through the example of the predator , it all fit into place. I agree with the author that the cost is less than the chance of missing out on something.
    • Alexis Schomer
       
      This idea is very interesting and after given the examples I agree. It is better to think something is real when it isn't that the opposite. This concept is not only applicable to nature, but to many issues in life and has the same meaning and lesson when applied to anything. 
    • Karina DaSilva
       
      Exactly. I think the analogy of the predator/wind is a pretty good description of how a lot of belief systems work. It's not a scare tactic so much as it is, at least partly, a reassurance of the future of one's self.
    • Carissa Faulk
       
      This is of course very true, and also makes sense. Not only does our sense of self preservation tend to believe patterns are true if the cost is less than the potential benefits, but so should our rationality. Even though it might be wise to question whether or not the pattern is actually a pattern, it is equally wise to assume it to be one until proven otherwise.
    • madison taylor
       
      It was an interesting article, but i agree it was a little difficult to understand at times. the idea that we can see and believe things that aren't true is valid. it is also a good point that we should be more rational about things.
  • Religionists see the Virgin Mary on the side of a building.
    • Felecia Russell
       
      This is true. We develop our own beliefs and justifications for why things happen or why they are the way they are. A person see Virgin Mary and another sees Micheal Jordan is just a connection to our inner beliefs. What makes it important to us? How do we put a face to something? It reminds me of precedents in court, because they are use to make future decisions. We make connections in our minds to explain certain things!
    • Joette Carini
       
      Like Felicia, I agree with this concept. It is a little bit of a complicated explanation because when we think of priming, we think of being influences on purpose by outside sources. But, seeing the Virgin Mary on the side of a building is not a certain religion telling that person to see her everywhere they go, so it is not an intentional priming. However, I do agree that we make certain connections with certain things because of our background and how we live. 
    • Jonathan Omokawa
       
      I think it might go deeper than being religious when someone sees the Virgin Mary on the side of a building. It does scratch the surface in the article when trying to explain the Type I and Type II cognizance. It is something that might be more emotionally attached to their psyche than anything else. Or it could be just superficial belief in the paranormal or superstitions.
  • and prior events
    • Sarah McKee
       
      If it's been a predator before you're more likely to think it's a predator. Whenever your right it provides a positive reinforcement.
    • Hayley Jensen
       
      I feel like this is just a living being's natural tenancy to favor safety over harm. It comes down to being prepared for the worst, which is, as the author would say, a natural selective attribute. Error on the side of caution clearly is statistically more beneficial than the other option. An animals prime instinct is to survive in order to reproduce. Humans have a responsibility to reproduce as well as to be productive members of society. Being more "cautious" allows people to contribute more and have experiences to benefit society as well as the people around them. I am not saying everyone lives for their country/community, but people choose to live because of the personal connections we make with others, and THAT is the cost we way, the benefits of this is what is considered in the equation.
    • Hayley Jensen
       
      The connection of this idea to the concept of inequality is that we use this concept to shape what policies we fight for and ones we don't care for. The policies that come at the greatest cost with a lesser benefit are the ones that people choose not to support. Policies with the greatest benefit with the least cost is more favorable. As far as believing false negatives/positives, these beliefs are based on hope (false positives) and lack of information/ignorance (false negatives).
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    • Jacqueline Ramsay
       
      The things people watch and witness are going to be on their mind and more likely change the things he or she is watching for. For example, a person who has just watched a scary movie is more likely to hear footsteps or feel cool air against their neck even if there is nothing there. 
    • Amanda Power
       
      Exactly. The things that we experience cary through the day. We also like to come up with explinations to make things make more sense or even give them more value. Just as the Greek and Romans did when they told the tales of the Gods who did the things they could not other wise explain. An example being Helios who pulled the sun across the sky by charriot.
  • natural selection will favour strategies that make many incorrect causal associations in order to establish those that are essential for survival and reproduction
  • Why do people see faces in nature, interpret window stains as human figures, hear voices in random sounds generated by electronic devices or find conspiracies in the daily news?
    • nsamuelian
       
      I usually find myself making weird figures from the clouds in the sky. Once you start thinking about something or noticing something in your everyday life, you start seeing these figures everywhere you go. 
    • Tyler Schnorf
       
      ya i have noticed that too. we find familiar objects to us in other things when they are not even there. Our mind can see things that we are used to seeing in places where they arent
  • There is. I call it “patternicity,” or the tendency to find meaningful patterns in meaningless noise.
    • Mark Drach-Meinel
       
      I think that this is some sort of sense that is second nature to most people. We like to have order so sometimes someone might go to the extreme and try and find some sort of order in complete chaos.
    • Ryan Brown
       
      This is true and I like what mark said above...we are always trying to make order out of chaos...not sure why but that is what we always do,
    • Shannon Wirawan
       
      I agree. I guess that's why there is the saying, "Everything happens for a reason." We like to give reasons and meaning to life, to our everyday living. I think Mark was spot on in his comment. We like feeling in control of many situations in life, especially with the unexplainable. 
    • Justina Cooney
       
      I agree with everyone this makes sense. We are always trying to find the meaning in life so we constintly make patterns. I think that this author is correct in asserting that making patterns is natural and important and consequently there may be some truth in conspiracys for certain people.
    • Devin Milligan
       
      When i hear random noises, ofter there are certain tones that can make me think of a certain song. I usually turn random sounds into a song. Certain pitches can remind of certain melodies that i know. 
    • Sean McCarthy
       
      We're all correct and I'm proud of everyone's findings. There's not really much more to be said on this besides that it's true.. How that affects political policy and using it to the advantage of bettering society is what we need to figure out
    • Brandon Weger
       
      I think that we like for things to be relatable, we prefer to have things in common than to label it as the complete polar opposite of us, hence we see faces in windows and figures in clouds, and even sounds that make no sense we try to label as intelligible, because we want to have an understanding for our environment. We like patterns, because things remain constant that way, adapting to change is not really our favorite thing to do.
    • magen sanders
       
      in my english class as well we discussed how humans naturally make patterns to make stuff more simple and nderstand it more even if there is no pattern or relation. its called paradolia and we do it to simplify everything then make and find meaning in it. its a natural response and is seen as beneficial sometimes in order to understand things but can distort reality to make it understandable
    • Mike Frieda
       
      Michael Shermer is awesome and you all should definitely check out his books. I just finished reading "Why people believe weird things" and it was quite good. Shermer came and spoke at CLU last year for the SoCal leadership conference for the SSA - the video of that is available here if you are interested  http://www.youtube.com/user/SecularStudents?blend=1&ob=5#p/u/0/0kbHZ8sEwd0
  • A type I error, or a false positive, is believing something is real when it is not (finding a nonexistent pattern). A type II error, or a false negative, is not believing something is real when it is (not recognizing a real pattern—call it “apat­ternicity”).
  • . Thus, there would have been a beneficial selection for believing that most patterns are real.
    • Mike Frieda
       
      This is Shermer's main point. Because we have evolved to seek out patterns, and our survival rate tends to go up by accepting pattern outcomes as real, we are destined to believe things. This is why 'people believe weird things'. It is why we are susceptible to priming and why political story telling is so effective. 
    • Justina Cooney
       
      I agree, I think that this is an interesting point. When we typically think of conspiracy theorist we tend to picture some crazy person when in reality picking up on patterns that go deeper than what we are shown in the media might be an important survival instinct that has been lost because of stigma.
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  • But such erroneous cognition is not likely to remove us from the gene pool and would therefore not have been selected against by evolution.
    • Brandon White
       
      Scientifically, this is really interesting. Although misconstruing the world around us can sometimes be seen as being a negative personality trait, evolution has determined that it is not one that is a "fatal" error or one that would inhibit growth. What we perceive in our own mind, in a way, can be negative or positive. Seeing things like the face of Jesus in a slice of toast may seem odd or crazy, but in a way it is refreshing to see different people interpreting the natural world in different ways. If we all saw the world the same, creativity would die.  Think about it: People thought Galileo was odd at first for looking at the universe differently, and now his ideas are accepted by almost all. 
  • Sometimes A really is connected to B; sometimes it is not
    • Tatiana McCuaig
       
      I know I have seen this countless times before, with people making connections between things that are completely unrelated. It seems that there is trouble with believing the simple answer, and feel that there needs to be a deeper meaning.
    • Edmund Garrett
       
      Or perhaps you connect point A with point B because point B holds specific significance to you. Like when people so 9/11 was a conspiracy. Maybe that person was dissatisfied with Bush and in order to justify his dislike for him needs to come up with a patternicity that supports his feeling.
    • Meghann Ellis
       
      I agree with Edmund. I think much that we decide with our brains has to do with importance/ significance to us. This might explain why people think that certain things are real when they aren't such as a type I error or vice versa with a type II error that believes something is false when it is really real. Humans emotions and feelings I feel make their argument make sense in their heads. 
    • Phillip Delgado
       
      i beleive that type II error, or a false negative would only make sense if the person had a mental disability. A lot of people who believe in things like UFOs known deep down that they are false. These people choose to not recognize real patterns, and by doing this in turn they are recognizing them.
  • I argue that our brains are belief engines: evolved pattern-recognition machines that connect the dots and create meaning out of the patterns that we think we see in nature.
    • jeffrey hernandez
       
      Ever since I was in pre-school I remember connecting the dots, it's something children have been taught and doing their whole life.
    • Courtney Sabile
       
      I agree with Shermer's argument. We humans do see things out of certain patterns. Such as finding shapes in the clouds or a monster from your window at night, when it really was a branch in the wind. I find it entertaining when people sell the image of the Virgin Mary on a piece of toast. These patterns fascinate our brains and link to creativity.
  • Paranormalists hear dead people speaking to them through a radio receiver.
    • Erick Sandoval
       
      Someone who claims they hear things can be because of past experiences that has had a great impact on them. I think experiences can influence what a person believes or doesn't believe. 
    • Nicolas Bianchi
       
      Absolutely it can.  People can be easily be molded not matter the circumstance
    • mgarciag
       
      I believe that the reason we see faces and other things in inanimate and amorphous objects is because either we are either searching way too hard (over analyzing) or just to accustomed to the object we are seeing.  Many of us see faces in random things and I believe that it is due to the fact that we deal with many faces each and every day.  And since we are not all clones, there is room for slight differences and changes so when we come across two spots and a sideways parentheses we associate it with a face.  
    • Quang Chu
       
      I think this is a very interesting article. This article reminds me of the story about a biologist and a businessman. They are walking together. Suddenly, the biologist hears the sound of an extremely rare insect that he hes been looking for a long time. The businessman does not hear anything. Later, the businessman hears a sound of a quarter just hits the ground. And of course, the biologist does not hear it. So i think it is very similar to this article because people can find things that they are interested in easier than things that they never want. By getting interested in something, the brain or our mind will create like a pattern inside, and it keeps telling and seeking from everything around us that might be related of what we are looking for or what we are interested in. 
    • Kevin Olive
       
      What it really comes down to is how the brain wants to interpret in coming information. For example, if you are a businessman you'll hear quarters or as in the article if you are a paranormalist you will hear dead people talking to you through the radio. How you interpret information is based according to your personality.
  • belief may be held when the cost (c) of doing so is less than the probability (p) of the benefit (b)
    • Amanda Garcia
       
      I couldn't comment on the highlight under this, but that's exactly what I thought of when I read this, Pascal's wager. It is true, if the cost of believing something is comparably better than not believing it and risking the consequences that you may be wrong, regardless of whether it is true or not, it may be advantageous to us that we've evolved this way. 
    • jackmcfarland12
       
      I really like this point. We are socialized at a young age to see things certain ways. Like a kid born and raised in feudal Japan would be a lot different that a kid born today in Britain. Seeing these patterns we are also trained at a primordial level to interpret them independent from what we are taught. Being educated by nature and society are two different things that come together to make our reality.
    • Kim H
       
      "pattern-recognition machines": I'm pretty sure we can all think of times when we've heard our named called out somewhere, but really someone just said something that sounded similar to our names. Our brains are constantly on alert, trying to make sense of the world around us. We feel comfortable with things we know, and so we try to fit new experiences into what we already know. This works like schemas. 
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    I agree with Sarah because yes it was already a predator you are more inclined to think its a predator because thats all you've known it as.
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    I like the predator example and feel it helped my understand the article better. How we see something and how we relate it to ourselves such as the Virgin Mary is very important. I also feel the cost is less than the chance of missing out in the long run.
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    I find this information very interesting: Patternicity," or the tendency to find meaningful patterns in meaningless noise. It is also an error in cognition. Natural selection will favor patternicity. There are two types, or a false or a positive, believing something is real when it is not and believing something is real when it is. Our brains are belief engines: evolved pattern-recognition machines that connect the dots and create meaning out of the patterns that we think we see in nature.
Mark Drach-Meinel

Hans Rosling's new insights on poverty | Video on TED.com - 3 views

    • nsamuelian
       
      Rosling stated that the only time he believes statistics is when it's "grandma approved." His use of charts and the numbers he put together allows him to tell his story. The fact that he mentions and shows the different lifestyles on the same street with the different pay per day shows the extreme poverty and the gap between the rich and poor in a country, specifically Africa in his example.
    • Melissa Moreno
       
      I am disagreeing that the impoverished nations are at a disadvantage but I do believe that it is constantly cast in a negative light by the story telling. Just because he uses numbers and charts doesn't mean he isn't telling a story like the ads Iweala talked about in her article. There is a problem with poverty, but there is a problem everywhere and maybe it is time we started focusing on the good things instead of constantly focusing on the bad. We as a nation have a lot we need to fix in our own country and I agree with Jonathan, it is going to take a lot longer than our lifetime to see those problems fixed.
    • Ryan Brown
       
      Completely agree with Melissa. I understand the point of this showing the varying degrees of economic wealth between people but everything is in perspective. Africa as a country as been used and abused for the better part of their existence, impoverished countries need to focus one step at a time before they can flourish. They need a good leadership base, africa has always had the natural resources to succeed, so where do you put the blame? take your pick.
    • Mark Drach-Meinel
       
      I think it's very interesting about what Rosling said about Africa. We have the image of Africa being poor and impoverished but it is the continent that has grown the fastest despite its initially poor conditions. It's all a matter of perspective
    • anonymous
       
      I think this video does a good job of capturing the vast differences in poverty between towns, and the perspective in which we examine Africa is indeed huge here. It has come such a long way since apartheid ended, and I feel that it should at least receive credit in that sense.
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    I agree with you Mark, because Africa has grown a lot recently. Its rate of growth is large right now, but its overall growth is minimal, therefore it is all a matter of how you look at it.
Amanda Garcia

McAllen, Texas and the high cost of health care : The New Yorker - 4 views

  • In Washington, the aim of health-care reform is not just to extend medical coverage to everybody but also to bring costs under control.
    • Joette Carini
       
      I am not entirely sure if either of these are possible... they have been working on universal healthcare for some time, and there has been an ongoing fight against it. Beyond that, though, bringing costs under control is something that is so widely utilized will be very hard to do. I believe it is something that is much easier said than done.
    • Jonathan Omokawa
       
      I agree with Joette. I think the idea that it is legally mandated to pay for something that should be optional rubs a lot of people the wrong way. Especially those who can barely afford making ends meet. Another bill is not something that would be welcome.
    • Tavish Dunn
       
      I agree that it would be very difficult to implement universal healthcare. Many people do not see it as something that should be a required cost and fight against it. Part of the reason for fighting it is because it does not seem possible to control the cost. People with financial difficulties now would only face greater problems if another problem if the cost of healthcare was forced upon them.
    • nsamuelian
       
      I feel as if people have too much expectation in the US. Just as we all would want to have high aims and goals, there have always been controversy in our laws and regulations. in my opinion, we will always have healthcare cost issues.
    • Tyler Coville
       
      extending medical coverage and bring costs down are two counterintuitive things. How can you bring the cost of health care down while also telling the medical companies involved that you will cover all costs?
    • Sarah McKee
       
      This is one of those instances where the government is trying to say that it knows better than the people and I personally believe that they may be right. Though "forcing" health care on people may be a burden, those same people barely able to make ends meet won't be able to afford any sort of health aid if something happens to them or their family. Then where would they be, but I suppose I may be more overcautious than others.
    • Cameron Schroeck
       
      I agree that it is probably impossible to obtain both universal health care coverage and to manage the costs of it. I find it ironic how the people who complain about those who do not have health care are the same ones who strike down the affordable care act. This is because the act FORCES people to get medical coverage. Plain and simple, people hate anything that forces them to do something because they feel they have lost a degree of freedom. I question the financing that is supposed to make healthcare affordable for all.  
    • Carissa Faulk
       
      I understand that the government is just trying to help those who can't afford (or can't get) healthcare to avoid going into massive debt if they were to have some major medical emergency, but what I don't understand is how providing universal healthcare will bring down the costs at all. It seems to me that those are two disjoint goals. Perhaps, if the government were to focus on bringing down the costs, they wouldn't have to worry so much about making it universal?
    • Brandon White
       
      I agree with Carissa. I feel that instead of making everyone pay the cost, the government should work on making the cost itself cheaper so that everyone has the ability to pay for insurance on their own. This can be done through tort and malpractice reform, as well as other cost saving measures. This is kind of the Nozick theory that as long as the rules are fair (everyone has the ability to pay for insurance), then the system is fair.
    • khampton44
       
      To have both does not seem like it will not happen anytime soon.Making people get covered will not just imply solve the problem. And by having it be "affordable" does not mean everyone will rush out and go get it.
    • magen sanders
       
      considering they have such a low income and it is even lower than what their cost of healthcare is how is it that they even get this healthcare. i understand medicare takes care of it but how does that add up correctly. when they spend 3000 dollars more than the person earns to get them good healthcare. does expensive always mean good?
  • by far the most expensive in the world
    • Mike Frieda
       
      And yet we are ranked 37th in healthcare quality. 
    • Mike Frieda
       
      Yet we are ranked 37th in healthcare quality (according to WHO). However, countries like Morraco spend less (they are ranked 99th in spending) but have a greater quality of service (29th in quality) 
    • Sarah McKee
       
      Well is our health care expensive overall or per person because we do have a larger population than many countries in the world and yes I would like to know how the different health-cares of different countries are ranked.
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  • in the past twenty years, he has done some eight thousand heart operations, which exhausts me just thinking about it
    • Mike Frieda
       
      More than 1 per day
    • jeffrey hernandez
       
      With doctors in such high demand there is no reason why doctors shouldn't request so much money. Lester Dyke a cardiac surgeon is on the run trying to keep up with all his patients, therefore his expertise is going to become very pricy with the huge demand. 
  • Was the explanation, then, that McAllen was providing unusually good health care?
  • Rich towns get the new school buildings, fire trucks, and roads, not to mention the better teachers and police officers and civil engineers. Poor towns don’t. But that rule doesn’t hold for health care.
    • Mike Frieda
       
      This is very anecdotal. Inner city hospitals are rarely as good as the one described here. Rural, middle america, hospitals are also often lacking in quality compared with the one described here. Not to mention the Mayo Clinic, UCLA medical center, NYU hospital, etc will always beat out small poor town centers. 
    • Jacqueline Ramsay
       
      I agree! We even read a different article about the lack of adequate health car during birth in some countries. Granted, that was also referring to a third world country rather than cities in America. 
    • Gaby Ramirez Castorena
       
      I also agree...i mean how believable does this even seem for his argument? It lacks credibility.
    • Finn Sukkestad
       
      I agree, this was not the case in Braddock, PA.  They are currently having trouble keeping the hospital open there despite being very close to Pittsburgh.  i am sure that is not the only place as pointed out by the posts above.
  • I was impressed. The place had virtually all the technology that you’d find at Harvard and Stanford and the Mayo Clinic, and, as I walked through that hospital on a dusty road in South Texas, this struck me as a remarkable thing
    • Felecia Russell
       
      This makes sense.Hispanic Americans tend to have less insurance coverage than white Americans and receive less regular medical care. The level of insurance coverage is directly correlated with the level of access to healthcare including preventative and ambulatory care.Because most minorities are without insurance, they are most likely to not have medical care, and are unable to provide themselves with prescriptions medicine. It is no secret that minority groups have insurance coverage at a lower rate than whites determined by income and welfare. Because of the high cost, many families have cancelled their insurance and now pay out of their pockets; meaning they only go to the doctor when there is an obvious sickness. Like, Mike Freida highlighted, the rich towns have the things they need and the poor dont. Why is that?
  • Spending on doctors, hospitals, drugs, and the like now consumes more than one of every six dollars we earn. The financial burden has damaged the global competitiveness of American businesses and bankrupted millions of families, even those with insurance. It’s also devouring our government. “The greatest threat to America’s fiscal health is not Social Security,” President Barack Obama said in a March speech at the White House. “It’s not the investments that we’ve made to rescue our economy during this crisis. By a wide margin, the biggest threat to our nation’s balance sheet is the skyrocketing cost of health care. It’s not even close.”
    • Gaby Ramirez Castorena
       
      I really agree with this statement- while the country is facing several problems such as a bad economy, immigration, etc, health is one of the main necessary and important things in/for life. When it comes to the point where getting care for your health/health conditions is almost unattainable (money wise), when you can't afford to be healthy, then you know that the country is having problems.
    • Mark Drach-Meinel
       
      I agree with Gaby here. Health is a very important commodity. Going by Maslow's hierarchy of needs, health is one of the more important aspects for comfortably living. If it is so important, then why is it so hard to obtain?
    • Nancy Camarillo
       
      This is an ongoing issue. Our health care is the most expensive in the world, yet our healthcare system doesn't reflect it. We do not see the "benefit" of such an expensive system where having an insurance plan doesn't guarantee that we will have all our health care needs covered.  This has become an enormous problem that ultimately effects other aspects of our society i.e. our economy. 
  • It was easy to see what had landed them under his knife. They were nearly all obese or diabetic or both. Many had a family history of heart disease. Few were taking preventive measures, such as cholesterol-lowering drugs, which, studies indicate, would have obviated surgery for up to half of them.
    • Sarah McKee
       
      I suppose this a good reason against health care. These people don't take care of themselves, forcing other people's tax dollars to cover their health costs. They are the reason people are against a good idea. Because health care is smart and a good idea if no one is taking advantage of it, such as these people.
    • Lauren Dudley
       
      I agree this is one reason why people are against setting up a national plan as they do not want to take care of other people with their earned money, especially when people do not take care of themselves and it leads to having to need healthcare in the first place.
    • Alexis Schomer
       
      These people are disrespecting the system and their country. If they changed simple aspect of their lifestyle, such as sodium ad sugar intake, they would significantly reduce the amount of medical attention they need. People like this should not be allowed to rely on health care because they are lazy and choose to be unhealthy. Healthcare should be used for the individuals who need it, not who chose to be sick and use other people's money. 
    • Devon Meredith
       
      I think all of this is true. Healthcare should have it's greatest emphasis on people who are suffering from diseases that could not have been prevented, like cancer. Yes, diabetes can come from family history and not just from having to great of a sugar intake, but if they were not evening taking any preventive measures then it changes the whole jist of the situation. 
    • Sarah Marroquin
       
      I think that the people in McAllen are taking advantage of the health care and they kind of deserve to have high health insurance rates
    • Kelsey Fratello
       
      I also agree that it doesn't seem fair, like Lauren said, that people's hard earned money should go to people who are being lazy about their health. If people aren't exercising or eating healthy, then it seems unfair. Now I agree that healthcare should be used for those people who are sick and are either working really hard to become healthy again, or who are in a situation where there is not much that they can do with their situation. When it comes to diabetes, type 2 can go away if you change your lifestyle habits, but you have to be active about it. Having said that healthcare should be used for those who really need it, I think that may be a bit difficult when it comes to actually determining the specific people that it should and shouldn't go to.
  • McAllen has another distinction, too: it is one of the most expensive health-care markets in the country.
    • Kayla Sawoski
       
      Healthcare in McAllen is very expensive. Why would you go somewhere to pay for higher healthcare? Why wouldn't you just go to get cheaper healthcare? Is the care better? Is the care worse? These are all issues we are having to deal with. I think that all healthcare prices should stay the same throughout. If all healthcare prices stayed at a steady rate, people would know what they want and how to get it. Healthcare is a topic that has remained in discussion for many years. We must find a solution together. 
  • An unhealthy population couldn’t possibly be the reason that McAllen’s health-care costs are so high.
    • Shannon Wirawan
       
      It is maybe not the main reason, but it is probably one of the top reasons. McAllen's health-care seems to have their costs so high to make profits from the large amount of people who have health problems.
    • Amanda Garcia
       
      I can't argue with that^. It's a big state with a huge population, and unhealthy living habits of its residents can't be helping the situation its in with health care costs. But then again, there are unhealthy people all over the country with the same habits, so it can't be all that's contributing to the problem.
    • Erick Sandoval
       
      Sounds like a very nice hospital to me. It leaves me thinking, however, because McAllen has the lowest household income in the country. 
  • Yet public-health statistics show that cardiovascular-disease rates in the county are actually lower than average, probably because its smoking rates are quite low. Rates of asthma, H.I.V., infant mortality, cancer, and injury are lower, too. El Paso County, eight hundred miles up the border, has essentially the same demographics.
    • Dana Sacca
       
      If the area is generally healthier why would they have such high health care costs? Shouldn't they be lower because not many people really need them
  • “Just look around,” the cadet said. “People are not healthy here.” McAllen, with its high poverty rate, has an incidence of heavy drinking sixty per cent higher than the national average. And the Tex-Mex diet has contributed to a thirty-eight-per-cent obesity rate
    • Caitlin Fransen
       
      For how high high their health care market it is... it is ridiculous to think that the people their are unhealthy. The high health care expenses are attributing to their high drinking rates and their unhealthy diets. 
    • Nicolas Bianchi
       
      For some reason I can't comment on the highlighted portion.  I agree that the deficit and healthcare go hand in hand.  They are not separate.  If they were separate, we would have much bigger problems.
    • Phillip Delgado
       
      our healthcare cost more then everyother country because America has a much higher standerd of living. the individual person has more money here. To compare the two is wrong.
  • Spending on doctors, hospitals, drugs, and the like now consumes more than one of every six dollars we earn.
    • Devin Milligan
       
      why should people be spending this much money on health care? i think that the government takes too much of peoples money and spends it in correctly. I think the budget just needs to be redirected, and i think that government should stop increasing taxes.
    • Ashley Mehrens
       
      I agree here. The idea of providing healthcare is necessary, but having the large amount of money solely directed towards it is unnecessary. The governments spending is obviously controversial, but it still has to happen. People who say that we should do different things often don't actually perform full information searched to determine the actual benefits of the spending we have now. Phrasing this spending as one of every six dollars seems ridiculous, but is it really? Without full investigating to the topic and knowing everything about it, we can not make the strong statements that we tend to make.
    • Justina Cooney
       
      I think that this is a great point as well. Having a mother that has worked in the health care system for the past 25 years I have been hearing for years about the impact of health care costs and how it affects this country. I think with this knowledge it is obvious that our health care system is in desperate need for a reform.
  • But that rule doesn’t hold for health care.
    • Justina Cooney
       
      I do not think this is true in a large portion of impoverished areas. This situation, in my experience, may be more of an exeption.
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    I'm led to believe that reining in costs on medical care is possible, but that under our current political situation that there will be no major push to alter our methods in delivering health care to people and so it simply won't occur. There would have to be a major push and it would require enourmous amounts of support and those politicians would still be fearfull of political ramifications from the senior citizens who benefit greatly from these services.
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    People are trying to impose universal healthcare, but there are so many people who can't afford it because it is very expensive. They don't even have enough for saving their own money. Healthcare is something important to have because if anything happens to families, they cant take care of it, but unfortunately, people nowadays especially with the bad economic crisis, will only face bigger problems, also with paying taxes.
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    I thought that it was not necessarily the goal to reform the health care system in order to extend it to all citizens. I thought the money involved was more of the issue (at least for republicans) I doubt all republicans want extend mandatory healthcare upon everybody, especially if they don't want to pay for it.
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"the way to practice medicine has changed completely. Before, it was about how to do a good job. Now it is about 'How much will you benefit?' " I'm not sure that's just the market at work. I think ...

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