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Karl Popper - Wikiquote - 0 views

  • The genuine rationalist does not think that he or anyone else is in possession of the truth
  • When I speak of reason or rationalism, all I mean is the conviction that we can learn through criticism of our mistakes and errors, especially through criticism by others, and eventually also through self-criticism.
  • A rationalist is simply someone for whom it is more important to learn than to be proved right; someone who is willing to learn from others — not by simply taking over another's opinions, but by gladly allowing others to criticize his ideas and by gladly criticizing the ideas of others. The emphasis here is on the idea of criticism or, to be more precise, critical discussion.
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  • The genuine rationalist does not think that he or anyone else is in possession of the truth; nor does he think that mere criticism as such helps us achieve new ideas. But he does think that, in the sphere of ideas, only critical discussion can help us sort the wheat from the chaff. He is well aware that acceptance or rejection of an idea is never a purely rational matter; but he thinks that only critical discussion can give us the maturity to see an idea from more and more sides and to make a correct judgement of it.
  • True ignorance is not the absence of knowledge, but the refusal to acquire it.
  • The game of science is, in principle, without end.
  • if our civilization is to survive, we must break with the habit of deference to great men. Great men may make great mistakes
  • The open society is one in which men have learned to be to some extent critical of taboos, and to base decisions on the authority of their own intelligence.
  • paradox of freedom is the argument that freedom in the sense of absence of any constraining control must lead to very great restraint, since it makes the bully free to enslave the meek.
  • paradox of tolerance: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.
  • counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion
  • We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.
  • No rational argument will have a rational effect on a man who does not want to adopt a rational attitude.
  • It is our duty to help those who need help; but it cannot be our duty to make others happy
  • There is no history of mankind, there is only an indefinite number of histories of all kinds of aspects of human life.
  • A rationalist, as I use the word, is a man who attempts to reach decisions by argument and perhaps, in certain cases, by compromise, rather than by violence. He is a man who would rather be unsuccessful in convincing another man by argument than successful in crushing him by force
  • Only if we give up our authoritarian attitude in the realm of opinion, only if we establish the attitude of give and take, of readiness to learn from other people, can we hope to control acts of violence inspired by piety and duty.
  • it always takes two to make a discussion reasonable. Each of the parties must be ready to learn from the other. You cannot have a rational discussion with a man who prefers shooting you to being convinced by you.
  • Do not allow your dreams of a beautiful world to lure you away from the claims of men who suffer here and now. Our fellow men have a claim to our help; no generation must be sacrificed for the sake of future generations, for the sake of an ideal of happiness that may never be realised.
  • If we choose freedom, then we must be prepared to perish along with it.
  • we do not choose political freedom because it promises us this or that. We choose it because it makes possible the only dignified form of human coexistence, the only form in which we can be fully responsible for ourselves. Whether we realize its possibilities depends on all kinds of things — and above all on ourselves.
  • The more we learn about the world, and the deeper our learning, the more conscious, specific, and articulate will be our knowledge of what we do not know, our knowledge of our ignorance. For this, indeed, is the main source of our ignorance — the fact that our knowledge can be only finite, while our ignorance must necessarily be infinite.
  • The more we learn about the world, and the deeper our learning, the more conscious, clear, and well-defined will be our knowledge of what we do not know, our knowledge of our ignorance. The main source of our ignorance lies in the fact that our knowledge can only be finite, while our ignorance must necessarily be infinite.
  • I believe it is worthwhile trying to discover more about the world, even if this only teaches us how little we know.
  • What we should do, I suggest, is to give up the idea of ultimate sources of knowledge, and admit that all knowledge is human; that it is mixed with our errors, our prejudices, our dreams, and our hopes; that all we can do is to grope for truth even though it be beyond our reach. We may admit that our groping is often inspired, but we must be on our guard against the belief, however deeply felt, that our inspiration carries any authority, divine or otherwise. If we thus admit that there is no authority beyond the reach of criticism to be found within the whole province of our knowledge, however far it may have penetrated into the unknown, then we can retain, without danger, the idea that truth is beyond human authority. And we must retain it. For without this idea there can be no objective standards of inquiry; no criticism of our conjectures; no groping for the unknown; no quest for knowledge.
  • Science must begin with myths, and with the criticism of myths.
  • I believe it is worthwhile trying to discover more about the world, even if this only teaches us how little we know. It might do us good to remember from time to time that, while differing widely in the various little bits we know, in our infinite ignorance we are all equal.
  • If we thus admit that there is no authority beyond the reach of criticism to be found within the whole province of our knowledge, however far we may have penetrated into the unknown, then we can retain, without risk of dogmatism, the idea that truth itself is beyond all human authority. Indeed, we are not only able to retain this idea, we must retain it. For without it there can be no objective standards of scientific inquiry, no criticism of our conjectured solutions, no groping for the unknown, and no quest for knowledge.
  • Science must begin with myths, and with the criticism of myths.
  • The history of science, like the history of all human ideas, is a history of irresponsible dreams, of obstinacy, and of error. But science is one of the very few human activities — perhaps the only one — in which errors are systematically criticized and fairly often, in time, corrected. This is why we can say that, in science, we often learn from our mistakes, and why we can speak clearly and sensibly about making progress there.
  • There are all kinds of sources of our knowledge; but none has authority
  • more people are killed out of righteous stupidity than out of wickedness.
  • There are all kinds of sources of our knowledge; but none has authority ... The fundamental mistake made by the philosophical theory of the ultimate sources of our knowledge is that it does not distinguish clearly enough between questions of origin and questions of validity.
  • Always remember that it is impossible to speak in such a way that you cannot be misunderstood: there will always be some who misunderstand you.
  • All things living are in search of a better world.
  • Our aim as scientists is objective truth; more truth, more interesting truth, more intelligible truth. We cannot reasonably aim at certainty. Once we realize that human knowledge is fallible, we realize also that we can never be completely certain that we have not made a mistake.
  • There are uncertain truths — even true statements that we may take to be false — but there are no uncertain certainties. Since we can never know anything for sure, it is simply not worth searching for certainty; but it is well worth searching for truth; and we do this chiefly by searching for mistakes, so that we have to correct them.
  • Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again.
Sunny Jackson

What is Ethical Culture? | Ethical Society Without Walls - 0 views

  • Humanism is a progressive philosophy of life that, without supernaturalism, affirms our ability and responsibility to lead ethical lives of personal fulfillment that aspire to the greater good of humanity
  • For Ethical Humanists, the ultimate religious questions are not about the existence of gods or an afterlife, but rather, "How can we create meaningfulness in this life?" and "How should we treat each other?"
  • In order for human beings to have good lives, love must prevail, truth must be respected, honesty esteemed, justice secured, and freedom protected.
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  • Members are not bound by any community creed or dogma. Rather, Ethical Societies emphasize the importance of developing a clear personal philosophy that makes your life understandable and meaningful.
  • Learning to benefit from a diversity of viewpoints is one of the challenges of membership. Members encourage each other to think freely and to disagree without being disagreeable.
  • When we stimulate our thinking with new insights, information, and inspirations, our understanding of the world evolves, and we realize the full capacity of our human spirit.
  • It is by acting in a way that encourages the finest characteristics in others that we bring out the best in ourselves.
  • We treat all people as having an inherent capacity for fairness, kindness, and living ethically.
  • When we put into practice ethical principles such as love, justice, honesty, and forgiveness, we experience harmony within ourselves and in our relationships.
  • Ethics, most broadly, is the study of human behavior and its consequences in the light of what is ideally possible.
  • ethics define the social conditions necessary for human beings to thrive.
  • Ethics Begins with Choice
  • we choose to treat each other as unique individuals having intrinsic worth
  • We Seek to Act with Integrity
  • we learn to act with integrity. This includes keeping commitments, and being honest, open, caring and responsive.
  • The most central human issue in our lives is creating a more humane environment.
  • Creating a more humane environment begins by affirming the need to make significant choices in our lives.
  • We are Committed to Educate Ourselves
  • Personal progress is possible, both in wisdom and social life
  • Learning how to build ethical relationships and cultivate a humane community is a life-long endeavor.
  • Shape a More Humane World
  • people are social, needing both primary relationships and larger supportive groups to become fully human
  • Our social nature requires that we reach beyond ourselves to decrease suffering and increase creativity in the world.
  • respect for the worth of persons requires democratic process, which elicits and allows a greater expression of human capacities
Sunny Jackson

Top Conversation Killers for Atheists: How Religious Theists Can Hurt Their Cause - 0 views

  • take some time to learn how atheists and dictionaries define atheism and agnosticism
  • learn something
  • a real conversation is a two-way street where both contribute and both are interested in taking something away
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  • identify and eliminate basic errors
  • For atheists, quoting passages from the Bible proves nothing about any gods whatsoever. At most, it may prove that the person doing the quoting doesn't have anything better to offer.
  • you can't prove anything to atheists by simply quoting the Bible
  • People making a positive claim have a burden of proof; this means that they voluntarily assume an obligation to support their claim
  • make your own arguments
  • many theists do something in particular: they offer arguments for the existence of their god and then ignore the various objections and rebuttals offered by atheists.
  • It's one thing not to agree with those rebuttals, but quite another to go on repeating the argument as if no objections had been raised at all.
  • do some research to learn what the most common objections and rebuttals are
  • atheists will challenge a theist to provide evidence to support their claims. The proper response is to actually provide evidence.
  • It's up to the claimant to show that their position has enough merit to be taken seriously and be looked at more closely.
  • One way or another, the theist appears to be expressing superiority over atheists in a passive-aggressive manner. That suggests they weren't interested in serious conversation to begin with.
Sunny Jackson

Aristotle - Wikiquote - 0 views

  • He who has overcome his fears will truly be free.
  • Misfortune shows those who are not really friends.
  • Time crumbles things; everything grows old under the power of Time and is forgotten through the lapse of Time.
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  • Even when laws have been written down, they ought not always to remain unaltered.
  • A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom they consider god-fearing and pious. On the other hand, they do less easily move against him, believing that he has the gods on his side.
  • The basis of a democratic state is liberty.
  • Happiness, whether consisting in pleasure or virtue, or both, is more often found with those who are highly cultivated in their minds and in their character, and have only a moderate share of external goods, than among those who possess external goods to a useless extent but are deficient in higher qualities.
  • All men by nature desire to know.
  • All men by nature desire knowledge.
  • The truly good and wise man will bear all kinds of fortune in a seemly way, and will always act in the noblest manner that the circumstances allow.
  • May not we then confidently pronounce that man happy who realizes complete goodness in action, and is adequately furnished with external goods?
  • For the things we have to learn before we can do, we learn by doing.
  • I have gained this by philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law.
  • Without friends no one would choose to live, though he had all other goods.
  • Life in the true sense is perceiving or thinking.
  • To be conscious that we are perceiving or thinking is to be conscious of our own existence.
  • With regard to excellence, it is not enough to know, but we must try to have and use it.
  • Poetry is finer and more philosophical than history; for poetry expresses the universal, and history only the particular.
  • Poetry demands a man with a special gift for it, or else one with a touch of madness in him.
  • Homer has taught all other poets the art of telling lies skillfully.
  • a convincing impossibility is preferable to an unconvincing possibility.
  • Education is the best provision for old age.
  • Hope is a waking dream.
  • It is well said, then, that it is by doing just acts that the just man is produced
  • Liars when they speak the truth are not believed.
  • Friendship is a single soul dwelling in two bodies.
  • Love is composed of a single soul inhabiting two bodies.
  • What is life without love? Love is like the sun; without light, there's no life
Sunny Jackson

What can we conclude from all of this religious information? - 0 views

  • Our DNA, mixed with the DNA of another, lives on through any children that we have
  • The influence of our DNA continues to be diluted with each generation. But it is spread through an increasing number of our descendents.
  • Every action that we have taken throughout our life influences other people and the world in some way. Even after we are gone, our actions continue to change the universe. The ripples formed during our lifetime, for good or evil, continue to spread.
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  • when people normally think about life after death, they think of some continued form of consciousness -- one in which at least our memories and personalities remain intact
  • The Celts and some other aboriginal societies taught that when we die, we are born into an alternative universe that is much like the earth. When someone dies in that other universe, a baby is born on earth. There is an elegant symmetry to this concept.
  • Eastern and some Neopagan religions teach some form of transmigration of the soul or of reincarnation, in which humans eventually pass through a whole succession of lifetimes.
  • nobody really knows what happens
  • It is up to the individual to give their own life meaning. 
  • When we treat others a sub-humans, dreadful things can and do happen
  • There are a lot of theories about life after death, but we are a little short on hard evidence. It seems as if nobody is really certain. We have two choices: To somehow learn to live with this uncertainty. To follow a religious belief, even though we have no proof.
  • One cannot simply decide to believe in something or someone as an act of will
  • There are many religions with multiple concepts of God
  • Going with the majority might avoid being the victim of religious prejudice
  • consider keeping a very low profile
  • if you choose the dominant religion of your family of origin, you might minimize conflict in your life
  • It is not necessary to fully adopt a single religion.
  • most religions can inspire their members to lead better lives
  • Most, perhaps all, have an evil, dark side
  • Many have discriminatory policies
  • if you adopt a specific religion, you might consider working from within to eliminate any bigoted policies that your chosen faith exhibits
Sunny Jackson

Council for Secular Humanism - 0 views

  • secular humanists don't believe in a God or an afterlife
  • secular humanism encourages people to think for themselves and question authority
  • secular humanism says the morality of actions should be judged by their consequences
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  • There is no central authority
  • People come to secular humanism by following their own curiosity and reasoning
  • secular humanism is not so much a body of beliefs as a method for reaching understanding
  • It is an approach to life that tries to be positive, rational, realistic, and open-minded
  • we are not expressing a doctrine
  • doing our best to state the consensus shared
  • Secular humanists believe morality and meaning come from humanity and the natural world
  • It is our human values that give us rights, responsibilities, and dignity.
  • We believe that morality should aim to bring out the best in people, so that all people can have the best in life.
  • morality must be based on our knowledge of human nature and the real world
  • treat others with the same consideration as you would have them treat you
  • the common moral decencies - for example, people should not lie, steal, or kill; and they should be honest, generous, and cooperative - really are conducive to human welfare
  • Humanists realize that individuals alone cannot solve all our problems, but instead of turning to the supernatural, we believe that problems are solved by people working together, relying on understanding and creativity
  • humanists are committed to promoting human values, human understanding, and human development
  • Humanists also emphasize the importance of self-determination - the right of individuals to control their own lives, so long as they do not harm others
  • freedom of choice
  • people create their own meaning and purpose in life
  • The value and significance of life comes from how we live life, not from some supposed transcendent realm
  • The moral differences between secular humanism and religion do not justify the allegation that secular humanist have no morals. This claim is not an argument, just an insult.
  • Nonreligious, humanistic moral systems existed before Christianity
  • the Epicureans, Skeptics, and Stoics of classical Greece and Rome
  • the common moral decencies are found throughout the cultures of the world
  • The most important moral and political concepts of the modern era have developed out of humanistic thinking
  • You will search the Bible in vain for opposition to slavery or support for democracy and equality
  • neither the Supreme Court, nor this circuit, has ever held that evolutionism or secular humanism are `religions'
  • they refused to reverse a ruling that secular humanism is not a religion
  • Secular humanism is not a religion by any definition: There are no supernatural beliefs, no creeds that all humanists are required to accept, no sacred texts or required rituals. Humanists are not expected or required to have "faith" in what is said by any authority, living or dead, human or "supernatural."
  • humanists derive their meaning and values from the natural world. Secular humanism is a naturalistic, nonreligious worldview
  • humanists don't worship anything
  • Humanity's constant challenge is to understand itself and improve itself
  • We don't pretend that our ethics and values are divine: we recognize that they are human, and therefore part of nature
  • individual secular humanists differ
  • the human species has evolved by the same natural processes as every other species
  • some of our most treasured traits, such as language and the ability to understand and care for others, are on an evolutionary continuum with communicative and cooperative behaviors of other animals
  • humans have a moral responsibility towards the rest of the natural world
  • secular humanists cover a wide spectrum
  • One political view that secular humanists do share is unswerving support for democracy, freedom, and human rights
  • All secular humanists are utterly opposed to totalitarian systems
  • The United States Constitution and Bill of Rights contain no references to God or Christianity. Their only references to religion establish freedom of religion and separation of church and state
  • The motto on the Great Seal of the United States, unchanged since its adoption in 1782, is E Pluribus Unum ("From Many, One")
  • The Pledge of Allegiance did not contain an oath to God, until it was added in the 1950s
  • In 1797 the U.S. Senate unanimously passed the Treaty of Tripoli which stated that "the government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion."
  • the remarkable thing about the United States is precisely that it was created as a secular republic organized around the rights and freedoms of its citizens
  • on the basis of shared philosophical principles and ideals
  • The myth that secular humanists are unAmerican is an insult to the patriotism and distinguished service of millions of people.
  • all beliefs are fallible and provisional, and that diversity and dialogue are essential to the process of learning and developing
  • we value tolerance, pluralism, and open-mindedness as positive and beneficial qualities in society
  • Humanists are staunch supporters of freedom of religion, belief, and conscience, as laid out in both the U.S. Constitution and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. These rights protect the freedom of religious belief equally with the freedom of nonreligious belief, the freedom of religion equally with the freedom from religion.
  • the neutrality of a secular society
  • Secular humanists believe that a healthy society supports a variety of worldviews
  • We also believe that religious and philosophical views should be every bit as open to debate and discussion as political beliefs.
  • All these claims make the same mistake: they confuse neutrality with hostility
  • neutrality toward different worldviews is the best protection from persecution
  • Separating church and state doesn't mean that the state promotes atheism and humanism, but that it provides equal protection to all beliefs
  • The amoral, power-hungry "secular humanist" conspiracy described by some religious conservatives is a myth
  • the vibrant movement that champions a moral approach to living based on reason and happiness is alive and growing
  • there are secular humanists. But no, there is no bogeyman.
Sunny Jackson

Why I Am Not a Christian - 0 views

  • We start with the evidence and then figure out what the best explanation of it all really is, regardless of where this quest for truth takes us.
  • Truth is not invented. It can only be discovered.
  • "maybe, therefore probably" is not a logical way to arrive at any belief
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  • well-supported by the evidence
  • at present the best explanation of all the facts
  • the only way to make an informed choice is to have the required information.
  • if Christianity were really true, there would be no dispute as to what the Gospel is.
  • There would only be our free and informed choice to accept or reject it.
  • We would not face any choice to believe on insufficient and ambiguous evidence, but would know the facts, and face only the choice whether to love and accept the God that does exist.
  • It's a simple fact of direct observation that if I had the means and the power, and could not be harmed for my efforts, I would immediately alleviate all needless suffering in the universe.
  • That's what any loving person would do.
  • A Christian can rightly claim he is unable to predict exactly what things his God would choose to do. But the Christian hypothesis still entails that God would do something.
  • it is enough to note that we do not observe God doing good deeds, therefore there is no God who can or wants to do good deeds
  • a loving being by definition acts like a loving being
  • The only possible exception here is when a loving person is incapable of acting as he desires--either lacking the ability or facing too great a risk to himself or others--but this exception never applies to a God, who is all-powerful and immune to all harm.
  • Even the most limited and constrained person there is can at least do something that expresses their loving nature.
  • Failing to act in a loving way would be unbearable for a loving being.
  • From having the desire and the means to act in a loving way, it follows necessarily that God would so act. But he doesn't.
  • Christians have no evidence any of these excuses are actually true.
  • the Christian theory is either empirically false, or self-contradictory and therefore logically false.
  • anyone with the means and the desire to act, will act.
  • it does not matter what plans God may have, he still could not restrain himself from doing good any more than we can, because that is what it means to be good
  • He would be moved by his goodness to act, to do what's right, just as we are.
  • God would not make excuses, for nothing could ever thwart his doing what is morally right.
  • anything God would refrain from doing can be no different than what any other good people refrain from.
  • Christianity quite clearly makes very extraordinary claims: that there is a disembodied, universally present being with magical powers; that this superbeing actually conjured and fabricated the present universe from nothing; that we have souls that survive the death of our bodies (or that our bodies will be rebuilt in the distant future by this invisible superbeing); and that this being possessed the body of Jesus two thousand years ago, who then performed supernatural deeds before miraculously rising from the grave to chat with his friends, and then flew up into outer space.
  • The same moral rules that are supposed to apply to us must apply to every good person--and that necessarily includes the Christian God.
  • if it is good for me to alleviate suffering, it is good for God to do so
  • When we have every means safely at our disposal, we can only tolerate sitting back to let others do good when others are actually doing good.
  • A man who calls himself a friend but who never speaks plainly to you and is never around when you need him is no friend at all.
  • first we come up with a hypothesis that explains everything we have so far observed
  • then we deduce what else would have to be observed, and what could never be observed, if that hypothesis really were true
  • then we go and look to see if our predictions are fulfilled in practice
  • every element of a theory has to be in evidence
  • every element of the theory must be proved with evidence that is independent from the evidence being explained
  • every required element
  • independently confirmed
  • empirical evidence
  • The underlying premise must still be proven.
  • We must have evidence
  • before we can believe any theory that requires this particular claim to be true
  • I would have to prove them, too.
  • If I added further premises
  • I cannot credibly assert these things if I cannot prove them from real and reliable evidence.
  • an actual theory capable of testing and therefore of warranted belief
  • the evidence required for that kind of claim is far greater than for any other.
  • Every time we accept a claim on very little evidence in everyday life, it is usually because we already have a mountain of evidence for one or more of the general propositions that support it.
  • And every time we are skeptical, it is usually because we lack that same kind of evidence for the general propositions that would support the claim. And to replace that missing evidence is a considerable challenge.
  • extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
  • People must know struggle, so they feel they have earned and learned what matters. But that never in a million years means letting them be tortured or decimated or wracked with debilitating disease so they can appreciate being healthy or living in peace. No loving person could ever bear using such cruel methods of teaching, or ever imagine any purpose justifying them.
  • We have never observed any evidence for any "disembodied being" or any person who was present "everywhere."
  • We have never observed anyone who had magical powers, or any evidence that such powers even exist in principle
  • We have no good evidence that we have souls or that anyone can or will resurrect our bodies.
  • I do not mean these things are not logically possible.
  • What I mean is that we have no evidence they are physically possible, much less real
  • Even if we could prove a single genuine miracle had ever really happened, we still would not have evidence that God caused that miracle
  • To confirm God as their cause would require yet more evidence, of which (again) we have none.
  • since there is no way to tell whether your feeling is correct and theirs is wrong, it is just as likely that theirs is correct and yours is wrong
  • A theory like "nature just exists" is by itself no less likely than "a god just exists."
  • a beginning of space-time at a dimensionless point called a singularity is actually physically impossible
  • we can no longer prove the universe had a beginning
  • logically, even if the universe had a beginning, this does not entail or even imply that an intelligent being preceded it
  • If God can exist before the existence of time or space, so could the nature of the universe
  • the appearance of time and space may have simply been an inevitable outcome of the nature of things
  • "intelligent design" is not the only logically possible explanation for the organization of the universe, and so we would need empirical evidence for it
  • needed copious amounts of evidence before justifying a belief
  • the mere possibility is not enough--we need actual evidence that an intelligent engineer was the cause
  • we don't have anything to judge his character by
  • some argue "God gave us life" as evidence he is good, but that presupposes God is our creator, and so is generally a circular argument
  • a mindless natural process can also give us life, and even an evil or ambivalent God could have sufficient reason to give us life
  • the harsh kind of life we were given agrees more with those possibilities than with the designs of a good God
  • presumes
  • Until each one of those propositions is confirmed by independent evidence, there is no way to use this "theory" as if it were "evidence"
  • the same deed could have been performed just as readily for different motives
  • insufficient support to justify believing it
  • even if it is true, we still don't have enough evidence to know it is true
  • We can only believe what we have evidence enough to prove.
  • Would you believe me? Certainly not. You would ask me to prove it.
  • So I would give you all the evidence I have.
  • No one trusts documents that come decades after the fact by unknown authors
  • Every reasonable person expects and requires extensive corroboration by contemporary documents and confirmed eyewitness accounts
  • we've found some cases of forgery and editing in each of their stories by parties unknown, and we aren't sure we've caught it all
  • the only way life could arise by accident is if the universe tried countless times and only very rarely succeeded
  • Lo and behold, we observe that is exactly what happened: the universe has been mixing chemicals for over twelve billion years in over a billion-trillion star systems
  • The fact that we observe exactly what the theory of accidental origin requires and predicts is evidence that our theory is correct.
  • until the Christian can prove these additional theories are true, from independent evidence, there is no reason to believe them
  • The evidence that all present life evolved by a process of natural selection is strong and extensive.
  • scientific consensus on this is vast and certain
  • billions of years of meandering change over time
  • vast time involved
  • meandering progress of change
  • needless imperfections in our construction
  • The possibility is not enough. You have to prove it. That has yet to happen.
  • Finely Tuning a Killer Cosmos
Sunny Jackson

Why do atheists talk so much about this God they disbelieve in? - Quora - 0 views

  • when the god squad stops trying to enforce their god through legislation, we'll stop talking about it
  • oddly enough, despite my not believing in him, other people keep trying to cram him down my throat, often via efforts to enact laws based on his non-existent rules.This disturbs me.
  • Yeah, I know a detective who talks about crime a lot.  Mad isn't it?
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  • I try to give equal time to all the gods that I don't believe in.
  • Religion is a huge force in the world. Good, bad or mixed, it's inescapable.
  • When something is a major component of the Human Condition, it's notable.
  • None.
  • wanted to make you and your children believe this too and were willing to change laws, education and polices to force this
  • how long would it take before you started speaking out?
  • Like all conscientious people who care about what goes on in the world, we are all struggling to define the best way for us to live.
  • There are good things in the world and there are bad things in the world. What is good and bad, and in what degree, depends on your perspective.
  • When it happens publicly, it is generally regarded by atheists as either gauche or extreme.It seems most extreme when it enters into political or other ostensibly secular arenas, like school.
  • the strengths of these secular institutions depends widely on the separation of religious and secular activities and ideologies
  • this resembles a backslide into barbarism and ignorance
  • For the atheist, it is a frightening prospect that people want to hinder education or freedoms based on Biblical writings.
  • if I did not care about the world, I would have nothing to say about God.
  • Both I, and the most extreme fundamentalist, want only to live in the best way we know how.
  • As an atheist, I personally have no qualm with any belief in a deistic God.
  • When I see people pushing other people around, trying to take away their rights of people, or hurting people in some way, I get angry.
  • For this atheist, it isn't about God, it's about how we treat people.
  • There is an unfortunate crossover with religion and social justice.
  • I am only concerned with the ways in which religion, as I see the world, hurts the vision I have of how we should best live. There are grave incompatibilities with that vision.
  • I don't believe in spirits, or souls, or gods or reincarnation. I do believe in finding meaning, in finding the "path to the self", and finding the best way to live in this world.
  • hope for the future elevation of humanity to freedom, to the best possible health and cooperation
  • There is beauty and wisdom in every belief system, but also there is ugliness and ignorance to be found, and I see it as a detriment to humanity if we simply avoid the hard work of re-examining those parts, and simply allow people to say "It is God's will, we've got a book that says so."
  • What am I talking about? Subjugation of women, ostracism of homosexuals, teaching creation myths as science to children, circumcision of boys by Jews, of girls by certain sects. From the eyes of an atheist, doing these things in 2012 is an archaic nightmare. Allowing these things to happen out of a fear of offending people is a most ludicrous failure of humanity.
  • a human person wrote any words in any book ever written. There are no gods, no sons of gods, and no prophets. To hold another person hostage for words written by a man, who possessed all the frailties we have today, but had far less knowledge, seems a dangerous and singularly terrible act to condone in this time. We know there is no basis for it, and it is frightening to see those who are willing to commit violence and abuse in the name of God and call it "good".
  • it seems simply like folly or madness
  • They had a belief that their view of the world was the right one, just as I have a view of the world that I believe is the right one.
  • To the atheist, it resembles a wave of madness taking over people.
  • Approach with caution and come with gifts
  • I know a lot about "this God" theists believe in
  • It is always good to engage your mind in an intellectual exercise
  • I was once a believer
  • I'm more certain on my position now that I ever was when I believed in god
  • it helps me refine my thoughts
  • often I find myself discussing something with a theist who has a strong intellect - and this is entertaining in the same way a sports person, or chess player, enjoys meeting their match or better; it gives me a chance to stretch and test myself - see where I might need to improve my "game".
  • All we do is try and unpack the reasons behind things
  • After unpacking these reasons the conclusion is baffling; These things are done, people are tortured, children are abused all in the name of a story.
  • I find belief in god and other supernatural entities an interesting human and social phenomenon.
  • Religion teaches to be satisfied with not understanding.
  • Religion teaches to not question authority.
  • Religion teaches a twisted concept of evidence and logic.
  • Religion advocates intolerance.
  • Religion promotes immorality.
  • Religion promotes inaction.
  • Religion inhibits progress.
  • I talk about the silly, stupid and vicious things that some people who claim to believe try to impose on the rest of us.
  • And sometimes I applaud the wonderful things that people of good character and religious belief do
  • What people do in this world matters.
  • Think of it as self defense.Atheists don't talk about their views until religious people refuse to shut up about theirs.
  • surrounded by theists trying to ram their beliefs down everyone else's throats, incorporating their religion into the government and legal system, corrupting the educational system by blurring the difference between fact and belief, and murdering and hurting people in the name of their "god"
  • Why should anyone assume that if one disbelieves in something, especially something that a lot of other people keep saying they believe in, one should not talk about it?
  • Why do anti-war people talk so much about war if they don't believe in war? Pretty much the same reason for atheists and talk about god.
  • I only really talk about it when someone else brings it up. Since I live in the United States, this happens about every ten minutes.
  • large percentages of each country believes in some God
  • They have TV shows to broadcast their beliefs
  • billboards
  • huge gatherings
  • radio shows
  • You have people standing in the street, shouting at you, telling you how you are going to hell
  • You have religious people questioning evolution, preaching creationism, questioning the Big Bang and promoting God-magic.
  • some people still insist in teaching their children that an invisible being thought the universe into existence, and that believing this is more rational than to trust science's explanation of the same event
  • Religion is stepping on my toes - a response is pretty much expected don't you think?
  • if 'talking about God' means 'talking about theology,' then Atheists totally have a right and a commission to do so, because theology can be done by both adherents and non-adherents
  • Atheists have been portrayed as belligerent, annoying twerps who need to be quiet; when, in reality, their calling out religion needs to be applauded. This is the 21st century—a supposedly new era—and Atheists are doing a good job of calling out politicians and leaders who cannot and will not rationalize their decisions outside of a faith context.
  • So many people do boneheaded things in the name of God, both those doers and their God need to be called out...and that calling out is often done by Atheists.
  • I, for one, find religion/mythology fascinating.
  • bad things religion pushes and endorses
  • we do not have to believe anything on insufficient evidence
  • the harms it can bring
  • that is a serious problem
  • Atheists do not keep talking about god. They keep getting asked about it
  • it's a part of our history and culture that is hard to ignore
  • we don't like being lied to
  • there's no reason to believe it
  • try to reason
Sunny Jackson

God: Do atheists disbelieve only in god(s) or do they disbelieve in any force that give... - 0 views

  • There is no reason to think that atheists disbelieve in things that give human beings hope. Many things give humans hope but have nothing whatsoever to do with any alleged supernatural beings.
  • you know, normal human beings
  • Atheists do not hold to a single creed.
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  • they might believe in the power of groups of people, working in unison with a common spirit
  • These notions may give them hope.
  • I prefer to embrace the truth
  • I believe neither in God nor in any supernatural forces. My life depends largely on myself and partly on other people and random factors.
  • Most of the time I don't feel I need any hope, life is pretty good as it is. I enjoy it.
Sunny Jackson

Religion: What are some great anti-religion quotes? - Quora - 0 views

  • I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
  • Creationists make it sound like a ‘theory’ is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night
  • Faith means not wanting to know what is true.
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  • The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.
  • Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
  • The hands that help are better far than lips that pray.
  • Eskimo:"If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?" Priest: "No, not if you did not know." Eskimo: "Then why did you tell me?"
  • Without religion, we'd have good people doing good things, and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
  • To sit alone with my conscience will be judgment enough for me.
  • Religions are all alike - founded upon fables and mythologies.
  • "I don't see any god up here" - Yuri Gagarin - first man in space, while in space.
  • I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.
  • Since no one really knows anything about God, those who think they do are just troublemakers.
  • The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.
  • Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet
  • Men never do evil so completely and cheerfullly as when they do it from a religious conviction
  • If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities.
  • What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.
  • The only position that leaves me with no cognitive dissonance is atheism.
  • Death is certain, replacing both the siren-song of Paradise and the dread of Hell. Life on this earth, with all its mystery and beauty and pain, is then to be lived far more intensely: we stumble and get up, we are sad, confident, insecure, feel loneliness and joy and love. There is nothing more; but I want nothing more.
  • Human decency is not derived from religion. It precedes it.
  • Religion is man-made. Even the men who made it cannot agree on what their prophets or redeemers or gurus actually said or did.
  • Name me an ethical statement made or an action performed by a believer that could not have been made or performed by a non-believer.
  • My own view is that this planet is used as a penal colony, lunatic asylum and dumping ground by a superior civilisation, to get rid of the undesirable and unfit. I can’t prove it, but you can’t disprove it either.
  • Among theologians, heretics are those who are not backed with a sufficient array of battalions to render them orthodox.
  • Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish.
  • One of the great tragedies of mankind is that morality has been hijacked by religion.
  • A theologian is like a blind man in a dark room searching for a black cat which isn't there - and finding it!
  • Religion is an insult to human dignity.
  • All religions are founded on the fear of the many and the cleverness of the few.
  • Faith, if it is ever right about anything, is right by accident
  • The president of the United States has claimed, on more than one occasion, to be in dialogue with God. If he said that he was talking to God through his hairdryer, this would precipitate a national emergency. I fail to see how the addition of a hairdryer makes the claim more ridiculous or offensive.
  • If there is any kind of supreme being, I told myself, it is up to all of us to become his moral superior.
Sunny Jackson

Myth: Being Irreligious is Risky, Short-Sighted Behavior Like Crime - Is Irreligious At... - 0 views

  • assume that being a religious theist is a "norm" and that being irreligious or an atheist is what needs to be explained
  • atheists are a minority, but religion and theism have to be taught
  • There is something odd about claiming that there must be a physiological rather than social or cultural reason for not adopting something that must be learned through society and culture
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  • men and women have to be socialized to accept such things
  • America, which is the most religious nation in the industrialized West, not only has higher rates of crime than less religious nations, but also has the highest rates of social dysfunction on every measurable scale
  • areas with the highest rates of religiosity have the highest rates of crime and social dysfunction
  • there is no "risk" to not being "religious" in the general sense, there can only be a risk attached to a particular religion which teaches that you will be punished for not being an adherent of that religion
  • atheists — don't agree and don't normally regard not being a religious theist really as a form of risky behavior because they sincerely don't believe that there is a real punishment for non-belief
Sunny Jackson

Beliefs & Choices: Are Beliefs Like Actions? Why Arriving at a Belief is Not Like Engag... - 0 views

  • You don't "choose" to believe this, it simply because your belief due to the force of the facts in front of you.
  • The act of concluding something isn't a choice of a belief
  • your conclusion is a logical result of what you know. After that, you make no extra, identifiable steps to "choose" to believe
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  • we are indirectly responsible for the beliefs we do and do not hold because we are directly responsible for the actions we take which do or do not lead to beliefs.
  • It would be wrong to hold us responsible for not trying hard enough to "choose" to believe, but it may be appropriate to hold us responsible for not trying hard enough to learn enough to arrive at reasonable beliefs.
  • One can be praised for acquiring beliefs through having gone to the trouble of studying, researching, and making a genuine attempt to gather as much information as possible. By the same token, one can be blamed for acquiring beliefs through deliberately ignoring evidence, arguments, and ideas which might tend to create doubt about long-held assumptions.
  • there can be no rational argument that a just God would send a person to hell if they had investigated and simply failed to find sufficient reason to believe.
  • Sometimes, we may value a comforting lie over a harsh truth
  • while we may be willing to allow others to believe a lie for their peace of mind, it is rare to find anyone who does not doggedly believe that they must always believe things that are truthful.
Sunny Jackson

Clarkesworld Magazine - Science Fiction and Fantasy : Another Word: Reading and Writing... - 0 views

  • We learn about some of the most important things in our lives vicariously through fiction.
  • I’ve known a lot of people for whom books have been profoundly important
  • Fiction isn’t powerless. And if the author just ignores the politics of their work, that doesn’t mean the book becomes apolitical. It just means they wrote their own defaults.
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  • Think Black people are lazy and violent, but your work isn’t about that? I’ll bet you dollars to donuts it’s in there.
  • Reading is the same way.
  • He’s trying to be a better man and to create (in a small way) a better world by the way he chooses what he reads.
  • And it was a moral statement, even if it was mostly a private one.
  • How we read and how we write will always have moral and political implications. The only choice we’ve got is whether they’re unconscious or considered.
  • beautiful and damning distinction
  • best self
  • authentic self
  • Wanting to live in a better world is great. Working for a better world is great. It only becomes a vice when it keeps us from loving the world we’re in—warts and all. My experience is that life is full of strong women and weak ones. Venal ones. Active ones. Passive ones. Complicated ones. Unhealthy ones. Men are just as varied and complicated and screwed-up. Their lives aren’t our societal best self, but they’re who we are
  • Treating moral issues as if they were craft is asking for a literature of beautiful sermons.
  • reading projects that pull you out into different kinds of authors and stories are wonderful so long as the moral aspects of your reading list don’t become more important than the joy you take in reading
  • I would never argue that the power of story—and it’s a real power—comes without responsibility. But I would say that responsibility is both to the better world to which we aspire and also the broken, compromised one we live in now.
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