AAAAAAHHHHHHHRRRRRGGGG!!!!!
I am suddenly feeling very old, as this transition is forcing me out of my comfortable box.
So far, things are not going very cleanly for me. My Furled items have not transferred, though I started yesterday. I tried again, after a few hours, but that didn't help. Now I've probably overloaded things and will either wind up with duplicates or a broken account.

Part of it apparently worked, though, as I appear to have an empty Diigo account. Now, do I want to stay here, or search for a new bookmarking tool?

Diigo has cached pages: #1 feature found, good. Unfortunately, I tried bookmarking a link, and the cache engine seems broken. Looks server-side, so probably no chance of saving things hidden behind firewalls, logins, or other protections. No clue if I'll rescue my furl cache someday either.

Diigo has a bookmarklet to mark pages: Good. In this age, no excuse for not making it easy. The "flyover" nature is much better than Furl's, which was getting crufty. argued with my popup blocker.

Diigo's bookmarklet doesn't have other Furl features I am accustomed to: I've lost My tag list. I hear Diigo will someday Suggest tags, based on OTHER people, but I want My list. It's about Namespace, and arguably, even under Furl, I had issues. To be most useful, Tags or Categories or List items? need to be ... (not sure of a good term) unduplicated. Segmented. Normalized. I need to keep at bay my tendency to create tags called "hdtv" AND "HD" AND "Widescreen". Sometimes a distinction needs to be made, but for effective browsing, a smaller number of categories(er, Tags, Topics, whatever) needs to be maintained. My tag list in Furl was already out of control, and I had asked if they could figure out how to make some kind of hierarchy, so I could organize a little bit. (for instance so I could put "H.264" and "DivX" and "WMV" under "codecs" without visual clutter when I'm dealing with something else)
I also miss the star ratings, even though there was some strange furl thing that made me only use 3 and above.

Diigo has some new wonky "annotation" bit: Huh. That looks cool.

Diigo looks like it has a lot of import, export, and blogging options: could be useful. I've long thought this stuff could or should go on my blog; and with annotations, that looks like it could be way better than trackbacks.

In the message I am replying to, it shows the data transfer mapping from furl to diigo, and I see that furl's "Topics" are going to "Private Lists". UGH. What's a List? looking further, ok, it's another "tag", but "orderable". Ok, not a feature I thought I needed. But here's a rub: the Diigo bookmarklet doesn't allow you to add "lists" to an item you are bookmarking, only Tags. That means my old stuff and my new stuff are in different uh... Lists? NAMESPACES.

I'm learning a lot, bending a lot, I hope I come out of this better off, but it's pretty uncomfortable right now.

Sorry, though, I'm not going to twitter. That's farther than I am willing to "grow" right now.
I hope that's not the only help besides the docs.
-greenup

Maggie Tsai wrote:
> Joseph,
> Yes - given that we have very frequent website and toolbar updates, we'll be migrating furl users to the Diigo community and phasing out Furl.
>...
> Meanwhile, here is the data transfer mapping:
>
> Furl Diigo
> -------- ---------
> Title --- > Title
> URL --- > url
> Comments --- > Description
> Topics --- > Private Lists
> Date --- > created_at
> Public --- > public
> Unread --- > unread
> Clipping --- > Annotation
> Keywords --- > Tags

I see there is a dropdown for Diigo lists in "My Bookmarks", but the Diigolet does not seem to have a way to select a list, so that's not really convenient. Generally, it looks like "Tags" are more generally integrated, searchable/browsable, etc anyway.

I haven't and won't use the toolbar. My browser has too many bars just in its basic configuration; with a widescreen, Bars reduce my usable content area. Also, as a security professional, I barely trust javascript, much less platform native code. (Not to mention concerns about compatibility with other system components, company policies, ...)

Glad the new import does things (I think) a little better.

I appreciate your responsiveness, I was unsure that this board had any official involvement, or if it was just users.

Thanks for your patience.
greenup

Maggie Tsai wrote:
> FYI:
>
> * Diigo lists are like Furl topics (or tags) --- there is a drop down
> * Diigo tags are like Furl keywords, and we have auto-suggest and recommended tags that furl does not have.
>
> And the new import will map topics to both tags and lists. That way, if some users do not like lists, they can easily delete them or ignore them.

Ah, Yes! it would be nice if the transfer did this. I've started tagging new bookmarks with A, AA, AAA, ... but going back through old data will be difficult/unlikely, and searching for "all AA and greater" will likely be impossible.

It looks like Maggie said Diigo would consider adding Furl features in the future, but right now they are tied up trying to finish this migration
-greenup

Al Dente wrote:
> Maggie, thanks so much for the attention to transitioning users.
>
> Would it be possible to add an indirect transfer mapping from Furl star ratings to tags (e.g., "rating-1," "rating-2," etc.)? It seems that under the existing scheme, Furl ratings vanish into the ether.
>