In Diigo Help Center How-To Guide/Widgets & Tools there's a tip concerning sharing of annotations that might otherwise be private.
The combination of (in no particular order) share to a group + share existing annotations + add private annontations + disclose annotated URL does have results that are somewhat unexpected. Here's what I discovered…
1. I added a number of highlights to a page.
2. As the page was a home page, so all highlights were necessarily private.
3. Using probably Diigo 3.1.6.4 in Firefox 3.0.3 (less likely Diigolet in Safari 3.1.2 (5525.20.1)) on Mac OS X 10.5.5, I:
* bookmarked
* shared to group: collaboration (public, membership not moderated)
* shared existing annotations
4. I waited some time, then:
* shared to group: plone administrators (public, membership not moderated)
* added another private highlight
* attached a private sticky note to that private highlight
* attached a group-shared sticky note to that private highlight.
Hi Graham, Normally, if people get your annotated link(which is a secret link), they can see the private sticky notes. This feature is designed for sharing. For example, if you want to share some notes only with one of your email contacts, you can make a private stick notes and send the annotated link to this contact.
However, you can still work around it by going to Diigo button ==>This URL ==> Get annotated link ===>Click options to find other annotated link option.
Certainly, but there's an aspect that (as developers, familiar with the feature set) you may overlook: people in my position use annotated links
* not often with an expectation of readers paying great attention to the annotations
* most often to _raise awareness_ of _capabilities and applications of Diigo_.
Even with OpenID, there's a tendency for people to view Diigo (to view any novel service/system) as yet another thing to sign up for, another thing to learn. The easier the introduction, the greater the likelihood that the passive viewer will become an active user of Diigo.
Particularly with distributed group work, it's not always easy to gain participation.
The combination of (in no particular order)
share to a group + share existing annotations + add private annontations + disclose annotated URL does have results that are somewhat unexpected. Here's what I discovered…
1. I added a number of highlights to a page.
2. As the page was a home page, so all highlights were necessarily private.
3. Using probably Diigo 3.1.6.4 in Firefox 3.0.3 (less likely Diigolet in Safari 3.1.2 (5525.20.1)) on Mac OS X 10.5.5, I:
* bookmarked
* shared to group: collaboration (public, membership not moderated)
* shared existing annotations
4. I waited some time, then:
* shared to group: plone administrators (public, membership not moderated)
* added another private highlight
* attached a private sticky note to that private highlight
* attached a group-shared sticky note to that private highlight.
The two group views of the bookmark may be found at
http://groups.diigo.com/ploneadm/bookmark and
http://groups.diigo.com/collaboration/bookmark respectively.
The annotated URL
http://www.diigo.com/annotated/573bd2866683ab0136353688530ed63f
was probably gained by me at step (3) or step (4).
Observations
Private sticky notes are visible to anyonymous viewers of the annotated URL
* from the tip in Diigo Help, we might expect this disclosure
Group-shared sticky notes are not visible to anyonymous viewers
* paradoxically, something that is 'shared' remains more private than something that was 'private'.
By grahamperrin
By grahamperrin
By grahamperrin
A wild guess:
* does the sharing of a private sticky note, to a group, somehow obscure that sticky note from anonymous viewers of the annotated URL?
Best regards
Graham Perrin, Project/Media Development Officer
CENTRIM - the Centre for Research in Innovation Management
Normally, if people get your annotated link(which is a secret link), they can see the private sticky notes. This feature is designed for sharing. For example, if you want to share some notes only with one of your email contacts, you can make a private stick notes and send the annotated link to this contact.
However, you can still work around it by going to Diigo button ==>This URL ==> Get annotated link ===>Click options to find other annotated link option.
> … Get annotated link === > Click options
Thanks - is the 'Options' part of the dialogue fairly new? I did not notice that aspect when I first reported.
At http://www.diigo.com/annotated/f8be2e0abb0c0d680be063d81263238f some minor improvement suggestions, ultimately to simplify the wording and to reduce the number of clicks.
> … This feature is designed for sharing …
Certainly, but there's an aspect that (as developers, familiar with the feature set) you may overlook: people in my position use annotated links
* not often with an expectation of readers paying great attention to the annotations
* most often to _raise awareness_ of _capabilities and applications of Diigo_.
Even with OpenID, there's a tendency for people to view Diigo (to view any novel service/system) as yet another thing to sign up for, another thing to learn. The easier the introduction, the greater the likelihood that the passive viewer will become an active user of Diigo.
Particularly with distributed group work, it's not always easy to gain participation.
Simplify as far as possible the 'Get annotated link' routine - in particular, make it easily available in Diigolet, cross reference http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/diigolet-get-annotated-link-7124 - and you'll gain an excellent tool for promotion.
Thanks - Graham
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