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Harold Brown ~ ARZone Chat Transcript of 16/17 October 2010 - Animal Rights Zone - 0 views

  • In my opinion there isn't a heck of a lot of difference between these "animal protection" organizations and the industry and its proxies. Another way to think of this situation is what we have seen in the environmental movement since the 1980's. What I have observed is that once any organization grows to a certain critical mass things change. There is always a disconnect from the grassroots and survival of the corporate entity is job one. It was a back room trade off. An "I'll scratch your back, you scratch mine." The industry is changing of its own volition due to recent developments in animal husbandry and the re-engineering of the animals them selves. As far as I know these "animal protection" organizations have never put into print, spoke of or promoted animal rights. It is the media that has conflated these animal husbandry reform organizations with animal rights and many well meaning activists become confused and support them thinking that they are convertly animal rights organizations.
  • You talk about cattle and dairy culture being validated by TV advertisements; about a dominating culture of indoctrination; and how frightening social change can seem.
  • Where the animal movement has gone wrong for over 30 years is the story they shared. It is a message of suffering, cruelty and harm.
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  • what Will Tuttle calls radical inclusion. 
  • rom the other side of the fence and I knew that
  • Guilt and shame never changed anyone’s heart or mind.
  • They now have a new sow that gives birth to about 20 piglets and that her body size is such that the old crates are too small, that they literally won't fit into the old crates.
  • There is NO humane solution to dairy other than just making it stop
  • that most calves are sent to auction 24-72 hours after birth.
  • the coming convergence of global warming, peak oil, population growth, ecological disaster and other factors will force a remedy upon us. 
  • I am the eternal optimist and believe that people are capable of great things if given the opportunity. I have seen it time and again. It is about creating a safe place and a community where people can come and deconstruct their indoctrination.
  • I think it is important that although you may want to give up cheese it isn't all your fault that you can't, despite your will power.  there is a component in the protein of milk called casomorphine.  Yup, morphine.  You are addicted as are so many vegetarians that want to eat a plant based diet.  It is a tough addiction to break but to be informed  goes a long way.  One we understand that there isn't anything in any animal product that we need then it is recognized that it is only a want. Wants are easy to leave behind.
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VWA | Home - 0 views

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    Nuevo departamento animales/comida del ministerio de agricultura holandés. 
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La ganadería industrial amenaza la diversidad de los animales de granja, advi... - 0 views

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    ""Durante los últimos siete años se ha extinguido una raza de ganado doméstico al mes, y el tiempo se acaba para una quinta parte de las razas de ganado vacuno, caprino, porcino, equino y avícola a nivel mundial", señaló Müller. "Este primer estudio global de la biodiversidad de la ganadería es una llamada de alerta al mundo entero". "
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Dierenvrienden solliciteren massaal op vacature hoofdslager C1000 - 0 views

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    Een nieuwe coalitie is gevormd van voorheen vaak conflicterende partijen: boeren, slagers, slachterijen, politiek en dierenorganisaties zijn eensgezind in hun weerzin tegen de kiloknaller.
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Un 'chupacabras' causa terror en una granja rusa - RT - 0 views

  • Todos estos animales tenían dos orificios hechos con un colmillo de una manera vampiresca y estaban prácticamente disecados. "Normalmente las ovejas tienen de entre 2 o 3 litros de sangre, mientras que éstas tenían tan sólo 2 o 3 vasos", comentó uno de los granjeros.Articulo completo en: http://actualidad.rt.com/tiempolibre/curiosidades/issue_30395.html
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Humane Myth - 0 views

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    An idea being propagated by the animal-using industry and some animal protection organizations that it is possible to use and kill animals in a manner that can be fairly described as respectful or compassionate or humane.
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