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Graham Perrin

AkaSig » Blog Archive » Zope and Plone learning roadmap - 0 views

  • mastering Zope and Plone
  • newbies (like me) asking for information about the first steps
  • the diagram below is my guess on the ideal learning roadmap
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  • Zope+Plone :
  • posted on Thursday, December 11th, 2003
  • pleased to have such an updated version available and I would share it
  • it would be great to find such a thing in the documentation section of plone.org
  • the more I learn Plone the more I see I have more to learn…
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    The diagram is old (2003) but the presentation is thought-provoking.
Graham Perrin

Of babies and bathwater (or: Why I love the Zope Component Architecture) - Martin Aspeli - 0 views

  • Of babies and bathwater (or: Why I love the Zope Component Architecture)
  • Martin Aspeli
  • Dec 01, 2009
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  • In defence of one of the great Python frameworks of the past decade
  • ZCA rocks. It's an incredibly advanced and powerful way to build software
  • ZCA adds complexity. It demands that you swallow its core concepts up front (interfaces, adapters, utilities, events) and get to know them pretty well
  • people can do crazy things, usually doing as much harm as good
  • elegant frameworks like BFG or Pylons
  • That doesn't mean the ZCA is right for all situations
  • learning to use the ZCA effectively is a bit like learning a new programming language on top of Python. You need to "get" those concepts
  • For the ZCA itself, there is clearly an opportunity right now to evolve
  • My personal wish-list
  • advice for projects, such as Plone, that use the ZCA for extensibility and inversion-of-control
  • Don't let the ZCA be the first API that people see
  • don't assume everyone has yet reached ZCA mastery
  • ZCA as a building block
  • BFG does this very well
    • Graham Perrin
  • We're trying to do something similar with Dexterity and the ecosystem of tools around it
  • The same will hopefully be true for other technologies as we move towards Plone 5
  • improved integrator learning curve
Graham Perrin

Plone and its competition: choosing a CMS - Martin Aspeli - 0 views

  • Plone and its competition: choosing a CMS
  • Martin Aspeli
  • Jul 06, 2009
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  • evaluate a whole slew
  • eye-opening
  • quite Plone-oriented
  • vendors' marketing materials decidedly do not help
  • if you're paying someone by the day to come up with a recommendation
  • Vendor Subway Map
  • features they have in their product arsenal
  • Plone sits on the intersection of the "Web content management", "Social software & collaboration" and "Enterprise portal" lines
  • cost (both licensing and likely implementation costs), fit with your existing IT architecture, and usability/end-user experience become a lot more important
  • focus on getting a list of requirements for your end solution
  • Vendor demos have a tendency to gloss over the warts
  • The word "CMS" - Content Management System - is quite overloaded
  • Plone is really a Web CMS
  • vendors sometimes focus mainly on content production
  • Other vendors include a dedicated presentation server
  • Some systems, like Plone, accommodate both in a single server
  • away from tight integration
  • towards federation of services on heterogeneous platforms
  • The "federated" view of IT is more realistic as an option these days
  • better support for standards
  • more use of higher level "glue"
  • Deliverance
  • plone.org, for example, "deliverates" Plone and Trac
  • federated architecture that presents a unified user experience
  • In the Java world, there are more formal standards (notably JSR168 and it's successor JSR186)
  • in theory
  • built once and deployed onto different portal containers
  • An intranet or public website should largely present
  • a stable, well-thought-out information architecture
  • a richer, more bespoke, less application-like user experience
  • a shift away from this one-platform-to-rule-them-all mentality
  • some of the "platform" arguments are red herrings
  • External Editor
  • training your in-house staff
  • pick a solution that is supportable
  • specialist vendor
  • Most modern systems are so complex that you can't just expect your IT staff to be able to support them without at last some investment in training
  • Bake vs. fry
  • Assets vs. content
  • In Plone, there is a structured hierarchy
  • content tree
  • mirrors how files are managed on the desktop
  • Folders and taxonomy
  • Plone is comparatively weak
  • Pages and fragments
  • Managing code and content
  • Zope and Plone communities have done a lot of work to move development out onto the filesystem
  • The contenders Below is a list of systems I think are worth looking at and learning from.
  • Usability is king
  • Even Open Text/RedDot, which says in every "datasheet" that Gartner calls its usability "legendary", is confusing to use at times, and many of the other systems - especially the older ones - are downright shocking
  • just to install the system and click
  • most enlightening evaluation
  • If I can't figure it out easily, it's not good enough
  • What Plone can learn All in all, this evaluation exercise has confirmed my belief that Plone can hold its head high in the web content management world.
  • support for the "bake" model
  • file representation of all content
  • upload content easily
  • browse the site via WebDav
  • IT support staff need to be able to feed and water the servers your CMS runs on
  • Morello has an interesting take
  • integration with Microsoft Office and the desktop
  • dragged from the desktop and dropped into the CMS
  • Open Text/RedDot has a nice model
  • RESTful web services
  • integration with other systems much easier
  • group workspaces
  • already decent add-on products
  • dashboard
  • first thing users see
  • content notification
  • "star" content they care about
  • content re-use
  • support for taxonomy
  • multi-site support
  • through-the-web content types and templates
  • page composition
  • Deco system
  • Conclusion
  • Plone UserVoice forum
Graham Perrin

WebServerAuth - Plone CMS: Open Source Content Management - 0 views

  • Authenticated
    • Graham Perrin
       
      Before learning this, I tended to simply remove the Member role and leave the field blank.
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