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Graham Perrin

Request For Comments: My Plone/Apache Stack « jjmojojjmojo: In Effect - 2 views

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2010 2010-01 2010-01-04 Plone (software)

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Graham Perrin

who wants to be release manager for Deliverance? - 0 views

www.coactivate.org/...forum_view

2010 2010-01 2010-01-08 Plone (software)

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  • Deliverance Discussion
  • who wants to be release manager for Deliverance?
  • Nov 29, 2009
  • ...33 more annotations...
  • The situation right now is dismal
  • private fork of the code if they want to make any modifications
  • getting a stable, maintained release of this 0.3 incarnation out the door
  • right now the bottleneck is on the maintenance side
  • it would be really nice to see deliverance moving to some dcvs
  • Deliverance tries to solve a problem that very few people have: styling an existing site without having to touch it
  • Plone where you would need hundreds of hours of work of skilled people to do a full styling
  • if you use Deliverance you still need to theme your Plone site
  • a lot of interest in Deliverance
  • XDV, since that is easier to deploy in non-Python environments
  • Deliverance + a proxy is obviously possible
  • legacy systems
  • "shrink-wrapped" solutions that they can't style
  • All my Plone projects these days use Deliverance or XDV
  • turn off most Plone stylesheets
  • custom stylesheet to augment the designer's styles
  • include the Plone authoring stylesheets more or less intact
  • new to Plone
  • teaching theming
  • new to Plone theming
  • comprehension and productivity
  • With Deliverance/XDV, I can get people who understand HTML + CSS to be productive with Plone
  • a *huge* win
  • hard to set it all up
  • soluble
  • stable 0.3 release out is of utmost importance
  • revisit the option of moving it to a different repository later
  • it only takes a very little bit of stop energy to get someone to go away
  • I hereby bestow upon Ethan the title of Maintainer
  • release now, and figure out code location etc later
  • DVCS's genuinely useful for including people in a development process
  • get git working with the major IDEs
  • I'd be looking at fewer man pages with hg than with git
Graham Perrin

Open NASA » Microblogging - Twitter/Yammer/Laconica - 0 views

www.opennasa.com/...blogging-twitteryammerlaconica

StatusNet Yammer Twitter microblogging NASA

shared by Graham Perrin on 13 Oct 09 - Cached
  • this year’s Plone conference in DC
    • Graham Perrin
      Graham Perrin on 13 Oct 09
       
      2009 in DC? I can't easily find a record of that conference.
  • If twitter goes belly-up, or sells out
  • Akibot (www.akibot.com)
  • ...1 more annotation...
  • http://twitter.com/yammer_team
Graham Perrin

DCWorkflow documentation - 2 views

zope.org/...DCWorkflow_docs

Plone workflow

shared by Graham Perrin on 29 Dec 08 - Cached
  • 2001-12-20
    • Graham Perrin
      Graham Perrin on 29 Dec 08
       
      In irc://irc.freenode.net/#plone in late 2009, this 2001 content is recommended despite its age. DCWorkflow is well-designed.
Graham Perrin

The Zope Book (2.6 Edition): Acquisition - 0 views

www.zope.org/...Acquisition.stx

2009 Zope acquisition Plone (software) unread

shared by Graham Perrin on 26 Feb 10 - Cached
  • Acquisition
  • allows dynamic behavior to be shared between Zope objects
  • containment
  • ...4 more annotations...
  • understanding of acquisition is important
  • Acquisition vs. Inheritance
  • Objects are situated inside other objects. These objects act as their "containers".
  • may acquire behavior from their containers
Graham Perrin

Using Hudson CI for Plone projects - Martin Aspeli - 0 views

www.martinaspeli.net/...g-hudson-ci-for-plone-projects

2010 2010-01 2010-01-08 Plone (software)

shared by Graham Perrin on 08 Jan 10 - Cached
  • Nov 07, 2009
  • Martin Aspeli
  • Hudson Continuous Integration
  • ...4 more annotations...
  • provides a test runner that can output the types of XML test reports that Hudson expects
  • collective.xmltestreport
  • pretty easy to set it all up
  • Using Hudson CI for Plone projects
Graham Perrin

Fixing Kupu in deliverance configuration - Finn Arild Music - 0 views

www.finnarild.com/...u-in-deliverance-configuration

2010 2010-01 2010-01-08 Plone (software)

shared by Graham Perrin on 09 Jan 10 - Cached
  • Fixing Kupu in deliverance configuration
  • Deliverance is a brilliantly smart concept
  • separating design from logic
  • ...7 more annotations...
  • combining several types of backend web applications into a frontend
  • Deliverance configuration
  • problems in making it play nicely
  • this page which shed some light
  • Varnish config
  • Kupu depended on a pristine /emptypage
  • a match instead of a proxy
Graham Perrin

New über-buildout with Repoze and Deliverance - Martin Aspeli - 0 views

www.martinaspeli.net/...ut-with-repoze-and-deliverance

2010 2010-01 2010-01-08 Plone (software)

shared by Graham Perrin on 08 Jan 10 - Cached
  • Martin Aspeli
  • Aug 09, 2009
  • all-in-one
  • ...7 more annotations...
  • devleopment-and-production
  • using Repoze, WSGI and Deliverance
  • don't want to be dependent on a live internet connection for production deployment
  • based on the good-py
  • don't extend any remote services in the uber-buildouts
  • the goodness of: ZEO server4 ZEO clients running PasterSoftware load balancing using haproxyA Varnish cachenginx serving static content
  • über-buildout with Repoze and Deliverance
Graham Perrin

Plone and its competition: choosing a CMS - Martin Aspeli - 0 views

www.martinaspeli.net/...plone-and-its-competition

2010 2010-01 2010-01-08 Plone (software) unread

shared by Graham Perrin on 08 Jan 10 - Cached
  • Plone and its competition: choosing a CMS
  • Martin Aspeli
  • Jul 06, 2009
  • ...79 more annotations...
  • evaluate a whole slew
  • eye-opening
  • quite Plone-oriented
  • vendors' marketing materials decidedly do not help
  • if you're paying someone by the day to come up with a recommendation
  • Vendor Subway Map
  • features they have in their product arsenal
  • Plone sits on the intersection of the "Web content management", "Social software & collaboration" and "Enterprise portal" lines
  • cost (both licensing and likely implementation costs), fit with your existing IT architecture, and usability/end-user experience become a lot more important
  • focus on getting a list of requirements for your end solution
  • Vendor demos have a tendency to gloss over the warts
  • The word "CMS" - Content Management System - is quite overloaded
  • Plone is really a Web CMS
  • vendors sometimes focus mainly on content production
  • Other vendors include a dedicated presentation server
  • Some systems, like Plone, accommodate both in a single server
  • away from tight integration
  • towards federation of services on heterogeneous platforms
  • The "federated" view of IT is more realistic as an option these days
  • better support for standards
  • more use of higher level "glue"
  • Deliverance
  • plone.org, for example, "deliverates" Plone and Trac
  • federated architecture that presents a unified user experience
  • In the Java world, there are more formal standards (notably JSR168 and it's successor JSR186)
  • in theory
  • built once and deployed onto different portal containers
  • An intranet or public website should largely present
  • a stable, well-thought-out information architecture
  • a richer, more bespoke, less application-like user experience
  • a shift away from this one-platform-to-rule-them-all mentality
  • some of the "platform" arguments are red herrings
  • External Editor
  • training your in-house staff
  • pick a solution that is supportable
  • specialist vendor
  • Most modern systems are so complex that you can't just expect your IT staff to be able to support them without at last some investment in training
  • Bake vs. fry
  • Assets vs. content
  • In Plone, there is a structured hierarchy
  • content tree
  • mirrors how files are managed on the desktop
  • Folders and taxonomy
  • Plone is comparatively weak
  • Pages and fragments
  • Managing code and content
  • Zope and Plone communities have done a lot of work to move development out onto the filesystem
  • The contenders Below is a list of systems I think are worth looking at and learning from.
  • Usability is king
  • Even Open Text/RedDot, which says in every "datasheet" that Gartner calls its usability "legendary", is confusing to use at times, and many of the other systems - especially the older ones - are downright shocking
  • just to install the system and click
  • most enlightening evaluation
  • If I can't figure it out easily, it's not good enough
  • What Plone can learn All in all, this evaluation exercise has confirmed my belief that Plone can hold its head high in the web content management world.
  • support for the "bake" model
  • file representation of all content
  • upload content easily
  • browse the site via WebDav
  • IT support staff need to be able to feed and water the servers your CMS runs on
  • Morello has an interesting take
  • integration with Microsoft Office and the desktop
  • dragged from the desktop and dropped into the CMS
  • Open Text/RedDot has a nice model
  • RESTful web services
  • integration with other systems much easier
  • group workspaces
  • already decent add-on products
  • dashboard
  • first thing users see
  • content notification
  • "star" content they care about
  • content re-use
  • support for taxonomy
  • multi-site support
  • through-the-web content types and templates
  • page composition
  • Deco system
  • Conclusion
  • Plone UserVoice forum
Graham Perrin

When the Plone installer isn't enough - Immersive Training Experience - 0 views

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Plone paster buildout ZopeSkel

shared by Graham Perrin on 14 Apr 09 - No Cached
  • ZopeSkel to get everything started
  • buildout that is based on the latest best practices
  • products and add-ons
  • ...9 more annotations...
  • 10 minute getting started
  • In this case, we want a Plone 3 buildout that grabs the latest stable version of Plone.
  • repeatable deployments
  • cd mysite
  • python bootstrap.py
  • buildout profiles that extend one another
  • paster create -t plone3_buildout mysite
  • predictable results
  • sure to get the same deployment every time you run bin\buildout
Graham Perrin

Zope 3 Known Good Sets - 1 views

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Zope KGS Known Good Set Python Package Index

shared by Graham Perrin on 06 Oct 09 - Cached
  • Zope 3.4.0 Released
  • January 29, 2009
  • integrates very well with the rest of the Python community
  • ...7 more annotations...
  • Zope 3 is now fully converted to an egg-based system
  • The Known Good Set (KGS)
  • a configuration of packages and their versions that are known to work well together
  • verified by running over twelve thousand tests on a daily basis
  • against Python 2.4 and 2.5 on the 32- and 64-bit platforms
  • "nail" the versions
    • Graham Perrin
      Graham Perrin on 06 Oct 09
       
      Is nailing analogous to pinning? In Plone community, I'm more familiar with the word 'pinning'.
  • KGS can be used in several ways
Graham Perrin

"You can make it painful" or "PyPI + lack_of_knowledge = kill_yourself" « PD... - 1 views

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  • Download error: (60, 'Operation timed out') -- Some packages may not be found!
  • nice package by Florian Schulze
  • jarn.setuptoolsfixer
  • ...6 more annotations...
  • Simply add one more line to your buildout.cfg within [buildout] section:
  • extensions = jarn.setuptoolsfixer
  • how simple it is to break a buildout
  • Links in a package’s description should not be parsed
  • Dead links should not be parsed by setuptools when running a buildout
  • setuptools have to ignore duplicated URLs in a package’s index
Graham Perrin

Of babies and bathwater (or: Why I love the Zope Component Architecture) - Martin Aspeli - 0 views

www.martinaspeli.net/...he-zope-component-architecture

2009 2009-12 2009-12-03 Python (programming language) Plone (software) Zope

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  • Of babies and bathwater (or: Why I love the Zope Component Architecture)
  • Martin Aspeli
  • Dec 01, 2009
  • ...17 more annotations...
  • In defence of one of the great Python frameworks of the past decade
  • ZCA rocks. It's an incredibly advanced and powerful way to build software
  • ZCA adds complexity. It demands that you swallow its core concepts up front (interfaces, adapters, utilities, events) and get to know them pretty well
  • people can do crazy things, usually doing as much harm as good
  • elegant frameworks like BFG or Pylons
  • That doesn't mean the ZCA is right for all situations
  • learning to use the ZCA effectively is a bit like learning a new programming language on top of Python. You need to "get" those concepts
  • For the ZCA itself, there is clearly an opportunity right now to evolve
  • My personal wish-list
  • advice for projects, such as Plone, that use the ZCA for extensibility and inversion-of-control
  • Don't let the ZCA be the first API that people see
  • don't assume everyone has yet reached ZCA mastery
  • ZCA as a building block
  • BFG does this very well
    • Graham Perrin
      Graham Perrin on 03 Dec 09
  • We're trying to do something similar with Dexterity and the ecosystem of tools around it
  • The same will hopefully be true for other technologies as we move towards Plone 5
  • improved integrator learning curve
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