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Chris Long

Freud on Beauty - The Digital Dialogue - 0 views

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Freud Beauty Aesthetics

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  • 1. Freud departs from the consideration of the beautiful within a distinctly modern position, associating aesthetics with the field that studies the "feeling" of the beautiful. This is quite different from say the Greek conception of the beautiful. 2. This modern handling of the beautiful is also seen in Freud's separation of the beautiful from knowledge or truth, again by his emphasis on its lack of usefulness and status as a feeling. 3. Freud places the beautiful within a long list of defenses, sublimations, and repressions that redirect our true libidinal impulses. He counts beauty as a derivation of sexual gratification, as a milder form of substitute intoxication that helps make the pain of life and its refusal to grant maximum pleasure, acceptable.
  • Thus there is in Freud an interesting, if inverted, parallel to the Greek (especially Platonic) conception of Beauty here on the one hand, and a clear manifestation of its modern development through the rise of the science of aesthetics and positivism. Freud seems uncertain about what else psychoanalytic theory can say about beauty. However, if he were to borrow from this Greek tradition, rather than from its modern development, he might be tempted to suggest that beauty is not so much a distraction from the truth of psychoanalytic theory, but the light that shines in the very confrontation of the conscious with the unconscious, and the intoxicating emergence of a truth (not a substitute feeling) that we find there
    • Chris Long
      Chris Long on 31 Aug 10
       
      There are a number of important issues here: 1) Anamnesis versus the Freudian unconscious - to what degree is the unconscious in Freud dependent on a modern conception of subjectivity? 2) Can we bring the notion of feeling into relation to truth here? 3) The role of Eros in Plato and Freud.
  • Chris Long on 31 Aug 10
     
    "Thus there is in Freud an interesting, if inverted, parallel to the Greek (especially Platonic) conception of Beauty here on the one hand, and a clear manifestation of its modern development through the rise of the science of aesthetics and positivism. Freud seems uncertain about what else psychoanalytic theory can say about beauty. However, if he were to borrow from this Greek tradition, rather than from its modern development, he might be tempted to suggest that beauty is not so much a distraction from the truth of psychoanalytic theory, but the light that shines in the very confrontation of the conscious with the unconscious, and the intoxicating emergence of a truth (not a substitute feeling) that we find there."
Chris Long

Freud & Feuerbach: the role of religion - The Digital Dialogue - 2 views

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Freud religion happiness

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  • "The whole thing is so patently infantile, so foreign to reality, that to anyone with a friendly attitude to humanity it is painful to think that the great majority of mortals will never be able to rise above this view of life.  It is more humiliating to discover how larger a number of people living to-day, who cannot but see that this religion is not tenable, nevertheless try to defend it piece by piece in a series of pitiful rearguard actions..." (Freud, 22)
  • The only reason that we hold onto this make-believe fantasy is because it offers us a sense of happiness.
    • Chris Long
      Chris Long on 01 Sep 10
       
      How does Freud understand the meaning of happiness? (p. 25)? -- two senses of happiness Religion as "mass delusion" (32)
  • Chris Long on 01 Sep 10
     
    "The whole thing is so patently infantile, so foreign to reality, that to anyone with a friendly attitude to humanity it is painful to think that the great majority of mortals will never be able to rise above this view of life.  It is more humiliating to discover how larger a number of people living to-day, who cannot but see that this religion is not tenable, nevertheless try to defend it piece by piece in a series of pitiful rearguard actions..." (Freud, 22).
Chris Long

Poetically, Man Dwells - The Digital Dialogue - 0 views

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Freud religion poetry Aesthetics

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  • I want to seize upon this "oceanic feeling" that Freud rejects as a cause of religious sentiment and investigate its significance further. In fact, it seems to me that the inspiration for all poetry might very well have its source in this feeling
  • Wallace Stevens blurs the distinction between emotions, the inner world, and the environment, the outer world
  • That was not ours although we understood,
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    • Chris Long
      Chris Long on 01 Sep 10
       
      Perhaps we can discuss this post with that of Joe Balay Freud on Beauty.
  • Art is a form of communication, one which enables greater understanding among people
    • Chris Long
      Chris Long on 01 Sep 10
       
      Let's investigate the Death instinct and Eros, p. 77, 80ff.
  • And so, the distinction between the destructive impulse and Eros could perhaps be more accurately characterized as a distinction between the destructive impulse and the creative impulse.
  • Chris Long on 01 Sep 10
     
    I want to seize upon this "oceanic feeling" that Freud rejects as a cause of religious sentiment and investigate its significance further. In fact, it seems to me that the inspiration for all poetry might very well have its source in this feeling.
Chris Long

Negative and Positive Freedom in Freud - The Digital Dialogue - 1 views

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Freud Individual Freedom

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      Chris Long on 31 Aug 10
       
      Let's talk about the understanding of the individual that underwrites these points. The reference to Contract Theory here is important - is Freud's understanding of the individual in the state of nature liberal in the traditional sense?
  • Freud seems to be taking a perspective in line with social contract theory
Chris Long

Digital Dialogue 18: Political Unconscious - Socratic Politics in Digital Dialogue - 0 views

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Freud Unconscious

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  • Chris Long on 31 Aug 10
     
    This episode of the Digitial Dialogue might be helpful for students interested in thinking about the political implications of Freud's work in Civilization and its Discontents.
Chris Long

Society Modifying Mental Life - The Digital Dialogue - 0 views

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Freud Eros Individual

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    • Chris Long
      Chris Long on 31 Aug 10
       
      This post invites us to consider the meaning of Eros in Civilization and Its Discontents more seriously. Let's look at pp. 55-7 and think about the way Eros fits into the distinction between the Life Drive and the Death instinct (80ff).
  • the super ego
  • human disposition toward social connectivity called Eros, and that "the process of civilization is a modification which the vital processes experience under the influence of a task set by Eros.
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  • to discuss the ways in which we are affected in our day-to-day lives by social standards that are outside of our control
luc4891

Walter Benjamin - 2 views

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  • developmental tendencies of art under present conditions of production
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      luc4891 on 04 Sep 10
       
      present conditions ≠ proletariat What prioritizes the present? Its utility for us or is it more iluminating for this theory?
  • processing of data in the Fascist sense
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 04 Sep 10
       
      How do these cocepts lend themselves to Fascism?
  • imitated
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 04 Sep 10
       
      reproducible ≠ imitable
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  • reproducible
  • gain.
  • Bronzes, terra cottas, and coins
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 04 Sep 10
       
      All items of daily use
  • script became reproducible by print
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 04 Sep 10
       
      Wiki- "After the defeat of the Chinese in the Battle of Talas in 751 (present day Kyrgyzstan), the invention [paper making] spread to the Middle East.[7] The rudimentary and laborious process of paper making was refined and machinery was designed for bulk manufacturing of paper by Muslims. Production began in Baghdad, where the Arab Muslims invented a method to make a thicker sheet of paper, which helped transform papermaking from an art into a major industry."
  • its presence in time and space
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 04 Sep 10
       
      What of the dimensions of the internet and digital format now?
  • suffered
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 04 Sep 10
       
      negative connotation
  • The presence of the original is the prerequisite to the concept of authenticity.
  • the original
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 04 Sep 10
       
      Does photography have an original? Does the process from film negative to dark room dislocated the original to each instantiation of light and chemical exposure done by the artist in the dark room?
  • natural vision
  • unique existence
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 04 Sep 10
       
      The value of an experience cannot be constituted by its frequency alone.
  • Uniqueness and permanence
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 04 Sep 10
       
      Wouldn't a unique experience be so by virture of it not being permanent?
  • The adjustment of reality to the masses and of the masses to reality is a process of unlimited scope, as much for thinking as for perception.
  • Both of them, however, were equally confronted with its uniqueness, that is, its aura.
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 04 Sep 10
       
      How can its aura be the same in another age with another context of interpretation? Does its physical presence override all other aspects?
  • ritual function.
  • he location of its original use value
  • categorizing
  • parasitical dependence
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 04 Sep 10
       
      Why is it parasitical?
  • designed for reproducibility
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 04 Sep 10
       
      Conditions of possibility reflect upon telos
  • politics
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 04 Sep 10
       
      Interesting change from ritual
  • free-floating contemplation
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 05 Sep 10
       
      set against delimited investigation. Is such a distinction most aptly associated with politics?
  • autonomy
  • The primary question – whether the very invention of photography had not transformed the entire nature of art – was not raised.
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 05 Sep 10
       
      Art changed without people grasping it had.
  • camera,
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      projector?
  • The audience’s identification with the actor is really an identification with the camera.
  • Consequently, the aura that envelops the actor vanishes, and with it the aura of the figure he portrays.
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 06 Sep 10
       
      Does aura have its base in presence or in cult use? Doesn't the activity of watching a film (in a theatre and all the practices that entails) constitute something like an aura or presence unique to film?
  • expedient
  • The frightened reaction can be shot now and be cut into the screen version
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 06 Sep 10
       
      Has this ever happened? This seems ridiculous.
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 06 Sep 10
       
      Then again, this could be drawn out more thoroughly with voyeurisnm, "reality" tv, and documentaries.
  • spell of the personality,
  • movie-makers’ capital
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 06 Sep 10
       
      Why is theatre not tainted by capital? It still functions off of marketablity and consumer support.
  • organs
  • hus, the distinction between author and public is about to lose its basic character.
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 06 Sep 10
       
      Hence, Diigo...
  • modern man’s legitimate claim to being reproduced
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 06 Sep 10
       
      his claim which is...?
  • spectacle unimaginable anywhere at any time before this
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 06 Sep 10
       
      and in this way is unique.
  • illusionary.
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 06 Sep 10
       
      Is this the right conept we want to employ in understanding fiction and its manifestations?
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 06 Sep 10
       
      Touch is not the polar opposite of penetration.
  • authori
  • organs
  • who is still hidden in the medical practitioner
  • laying on of hands
  • laying on of hands
  • laying on of hands
  • laying on of hands
  • laying on of hands
  • laying on of hands
  • laying on of hands
  • laying on of hands
  • laying on of hands
  • laying on of hands
  • laying on of hands
  • laying on of hands
  • laying on of hands
  • laying on of hands
  • laying on of hands
  • hands
  • otal one
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 06 Sep 10
       
      Total how?
  • And that is what one is entitled to ask from a work of art.
  • Thus the same public which responds in a progressive manner toward a grotesque film is bound to respond in a reactionary manner to surrealism
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 06 Sep 10
       
      The nature of art is that its true value must be mitigated by hierarchal exposure?
  • Freudian theory
  • incomparably more precise
  • science
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 06 Sep 10
       
      Art theory/criticism/aesthetics are sciences be virture of their utilization of analysis? If the science is one of art, its values become blurred with "art" value in some sort of unadulterated experience.
  • our lives
  • slow motion
  • it reveals entirely new structural formations of the subject
  • unconscious optics
  • contemplation became a school for asocial behavior
  • The spectator’s process of association in view of these images is indeed interrupted by their constant, sudden change.
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 06 Sep 10
       
      Displacement between the experience of art and the more cognitive aspects of analyzing art.
  • Architecture has always represented the prototype of a work of art the reception of which is consummated by a collectivity in a state of distraction.
  • by use and by perception – or rather, by touch and sight.
  • For the tasks which face the human apparatus of perception at the turning points of history cannot be solved by optical means, that is, by contemplation, alone. They are mastered gradually by habit, under the guidance of tactile appropriation.
  • The growing proletarianization of modern man and the increasing formation of masses are two aspects of the same process. Fascism attempts to organize the newly created proletarian masses without affecting the property structure which the masses strive to eliminate. Fascism sees its salvation in giving these masses not their right, but instead a chance to express themselves. The masses have a right to change property relations; Fascism seeks to give them an expression while preserving property. The logical result of Fascism is the introduction of aesthetics into political life. The violation of the masses, whom Fascism, with its Führer cult, forces to their knees, has its counterpart in the violation of an apparatus which is pressed into the production of ritual values.
  • Fiat ars – pereat mundus
  • ts self-alienation has reached such a degree that it can experience its own destruction as an aesthetic pleasure of the first order.
    • luc4891
      luc4891 on 06 Sep 10
       
      Shadows of Freud
  • During long periods of history, the mode of human sense perception changes with humanity’s entire mode of existence.
  • laying on of hands
  • Painting simply is in no position to present an object for simultaneous collective experience, as it was possible for architecture at all times, for the epic poem in the past, and for the movie today.
Chris Long

Sublimation Examination: Individual and Pleasure Principle - The Digital Dialogue - 0 views

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  • "Civilization does not once and for all terminate a 'state of nature.' What civilization masters and represses--the claim of the pleasure principle--continues to exist in civilization itself. The unconscious retains the objectives of the defeated pleasure principle." (Eros & Civ, 15-16)
    • Chris Long
      Chris Long on 20 Oct 10
       
      How does Marcuse use this insight to level an immanent critique of Freud? Think about the manner in which the defeated pleasure principle is reborn in Marcuse's text.
  • And so rather than becoming ineffectual like Adorno's individual, the pleasure principle, in its diversion through alternate outlets, ends up being the driving force for all human accomplishment
    • Chris Long
      Chris Long on 20 Oct 10
       
      Let's put this in stronger terms: the pleasure principle becomes the source of possible liberation, the root of a non-repressive civilization.
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