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Savannah L

Campaigns Use Social Media to Lure Younger Voters - NYTimes.com - 3 views

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    This article isn't really about politics, but it made me think about the election's trail through the internet. True, I didn't spend as much time on the internet in 2008 as I do now, but I never really thought about this much until this article. I have to say that my experiences on the internet have caused me to see that it has a clear sway in its beliefs and is always liberal. This makes sense because young people are on the internet more than old people, say, and young people are more commonly liberal than older people. 
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    I agree with you Savannah on the clear liberal sway seen on the internet today, I believe this shows an interesting trend for the future of our politics. I also look forward to changing technology and seeing how politics will adapt to the new things that will come into our lives in the future.
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    I think you're spot on Savannah with your comment that the internet sways liberal because of the younger people. We had a speaker come into Urban this past week to talk about some campaigning strategies. In his company, they used targeted mailing to campaign but we got to a discussion about media. He made a good point that the people who are following Obama or Romney on twitter, fb etc. are likely affiliated with that party already. I have so much to do online and it's already distracting. So I know for me, I don't really seek out political "tweets" and what not so it doesn't really lure me in.
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    I as well am not really lured by political advertising on the internet, I may notice, but not to the extent where I would change my vote or consider a different candidate. I do agree though that the media had more of an impact in the 2008 election, but because it was such a different election from what America was use to.
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    This is an interesting point. When thinking of what Danielle brought up, that the internet is more a place where already-passionate liberals and conservatives express themselves (rather than a place where parties try to advertise their beliefs), I see that the question changes from "can the internet persuade an individual to like a certain party" to "what is the power of the internet in terms of political advantage". By this I mean that, if the internet does sway to the left, does this affect society? Who benefits from having a similar political view to that of the internet? Is the older generation who might be more conservative being left out in any way?
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    I think that the internet is a great way to attract young people who might not otherwise be engaged in the election. I think that often, young people vote much more on the personalities of the candidates than on their policies (I'm sure most 18 year olds couldn't give you their beliefs on what tax policies would be best) and the internet conveys personalities quite well. Additionally, this might contribute at least partially to why the internet is more liberal: most people would agree that Obama is a more charismatic candidate than Romney.
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    I have not seen many ads for either party, either that or I may just have ignored them. I know, however, that places like Reddit tend to be hyper-liberal and are often the sources for many of the liberal propaganda that circulates throughout the internet. I cannot think of any conservative sites that compare in size to any of the predominantly liberal websites that make up a large portion of the internet.
Eli Chanoff

Iran Fired on Military Drone in First Such Attack, U.S. Says - NYTimes.com - 1 views

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    This article is more about Iran than the election, but it brings up the prospect that the Obama administration chose not to release the information until after election day for political reasons. I don't think it's important whether he did or not, but I come to the question: how much does a political agenda sway what a media outlet or any entity that publishes information chooses to cover? Beyond tone, rhetoric and biased descriptions, could entire events have been passed over in the way of allegiance to one party or the other?
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    I believe that a political agenda has great influence on what information is released to the media and what stories are hidden from the public's eye. An example of this is the attack in Benghazi and the significant delayed release of information pertaining to the attack. It seemed that Obama's administration attempted to keep the details of this attack in the dark, in an attempt to preserve its reputation. I believe there will always be a political agenda behind what is and isn't released and I do believe that there have been events in the past that have been passed over in order to preserve someone's reputation but in this modern time with the interent, I believe it to be impossible for significant events to be hidden from the public and I believe that there will now be more events covered and talked about than there have been in the past.
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    James, I do not believe that Obama's "political agenda" delayed the release of the information pertaining to the attacks in Libya, or that the information was intentionally delayed. I do agree with your opinion that the government does have sway over the media, but I do not believe that this was one of those situations. Obama, himself, released the information and he did not receive the complete story.
Sami Perez

Ohio Unions Face Tough Battle With 'Super PACs' - NYTimes.com - 5 views

  • The ruling in the Citizens United case and subsequent court rulings opened the door to unlimited corporate and union contributions to political committees and made it possible to pool that money with unlimited contributions from wealthy individuals.
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      Working around the McCain-Feingold Act
  • unions boast that they will reach a far larger universe of voters than ever in 2012.
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  • wider audience
  • Many union members are frustrated with Mr. Obama’s performance, having hoped he would do more to reduce unemployment, push for stimulus and infrastructure spending and stand up to Congressional Republicans.
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      Speaks to the issue of whether or not we are better off now than four years ago. Also proves that this labor is motivated by reason/logic rather than pure partisanship
  • large majority among white working-class workers
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      political target
  • In July and August alone, forces on both sides of the presidential race spent $43 million on commercials in Ohio, according to Kantar Media/CMAG, with supporters of the Republicans outspending Democrats by $3 million.
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      What does this mean in terms of how the large corporation donations will affect decisions made by the political leaders they sponsored? 
  • high-tech update
  • social media.
  • In the end, she said, she thought she had swayed perhaps two voters.
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      How affective can you be without the money/power of a large corporation?
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    It's so frustrating to me that campaigns seem to be all about money. Shouldn't they be about the candidates ideas?
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    I agree that it is frustrating how much a campaign is dependent on money but when I think about it, money is what gives candidates the ability to share their ideas with the most people. Whether or not something just as a TV commercial is more about a candidates ideas or solely bashing another candidiate, the advertisement is reaching a population who may not ordinarily have much interest in the election. Money is what enables candidates to travel around the nation to give speeches ect. So although it is extremely frustrating, money does play a crucial role in even just spreading the candidates ideas.
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    It frustrates me too. It seems that all of the money spent campaigning could go to something much more useful in our government. But I agree with you Abby that for many people, commercials and any media are some of the only exposure that people have to the current election, which is why they are so crucial.
Danielle Polevoi

Week 11:Some Voters Waver Even in Their Political Donations - NYTimes.com - 1 views

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    This article discusses a different type of undecided voter, the undecided donor. This portion of swing voters cannot decide who to donate their money to. These people connect to different aspects of each candidate and often end up donating to both. Do you think donating money makes a difference at this point in the election? At the end of the day, what determines an undecided person's vote? 
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    I think, that with the economy the way it is coupled with the lack of enthusiasm for either candidates, donators and contributors are not as inclined to give money to the campaigns of politicians. I also believe that donations will not (would not have) matter(ed) very much, especially relative to the money that the campaigns already amassed.
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    It seems very strange to me that someone would donate to both campaigns; if I couldn't decide I would donate to neither. In response to Danielle's question, it seems to me that money could still make a difference. Ads are a huge part of why people vote for who they do, and you need money to buy ads.
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    yeah I agree, I don't get why anyone would donate to both campaigns. Although I could see donating to organizations who will support different candidates based on the different aspects of the candidates you believe in
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    I agree that it does not make sense to donate to both campaigns, but I can also see why you would. I mean donating gives undecided voters a chance to either pick both sides, or either one without having to commit to one candidate.
Danielle Polevoi

Invitation to a Dialogue - Political Inequality - NYTimes.com - 1 views

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    This is an interesting opinion piece. It brings up an important discussion topic about he inequalities in political voice and participation. 
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    I definitely think it's a issue. I don't know if there is a good solution to it but it's definitely something to be considered.
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    While I wish that there was more equality in the system, most of the time the people with more money are more educated and know more about making policies anyway, and I definitely don't believe that people who aren't experienced should be making policy.
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    It make total sense that someone with more money is more educated, but I disagree with the fact that they may know more about making policies. I would say people who are less educated but have experienced with the government system and daily struggles are would be more valuable in helping create policies than someone who does not really experience challenges or obstacles.
Eli Chanoff

Romney's convention speech: class warfare, the Obama economy, and other messages for th... - 10 views

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    Slate comes through, as always, with a very critical description of GOP politics. In this article, William Saletan picks apart Romney's RNC speech and uses it to predict the remainder of Mitt's campaign. Read with a grain of salt, as Slate often tries to trick you into thinking its articles are objective. 
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    Eli, what part of the article did you find subjective/biased? I thought it gave a relatively neutral overview of the messages from his convention speech.
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    I, too, found the article somewhat subjective in the tone of the writing. As far as the content goes, it was interesting how so much of the election campaigns are based on the people's ignorance or unawareness. For example, Romney referring to our current economy as the "Obama economy", even though it is not the direct result of Obama's economical beliefs/plans, is effective through its inaccuracy because many people listening to his speech are probably unaware of how the economy got to where it is today.
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    This article does a good job of pointing out the disappointment that many Americans are probably feelings towards the government, but I agree with Eli that the tone is very Liberal. This was especially apparent in phrases like this one: " the GOP convention showed how broadly Republican leaders and delegates loathe the president". I also liked the point that you can like someone personally and still disagree with them politically-this is an email that comes up a lot in Democratic speeches. It was also interesting to read about whether Romney is running as a business man or a governor.
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    This article helped me go more in depth into Romney's speech as it analyzed what he was trying to say. The article brought into focus how all of Romney's key points are directly against what Obama has done so far as well as what Obama plans to do in the future.
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    I, personally, found the article to be very similar to our class discussions, especially on the topic of tactics that Romney used in his speech, including calculated jabs and heart-warming stories. That being said, this article is pretty critical of Romney.
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    I felt like this article broke down Romney's speech very well. I felt like the tone was not necessary liberal, but more of a neutral tone that was trying to explain Romney speech was trying to accomplish in his speech.
Savannah L

Attacks Fuel Escalation in Presidential Race - NYTimes.com - 2 views

  • “Make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people,”
  • “It is exactly the wrong time to throw political punches.”
  • said Mr. Romney might have done better to pull his punches.
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  • I always think that discretion is the better way to go,”
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      I side with them completely, Romney was being insensitive and would have helped his popularity if he was pro-america rather than just anti-obama. This would have been an easy cause to rally people under, but he shot himself in the foot by being overly critical of Obama in a sensitive time about a sensitive issue. 
  • Fox News.
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      Being anti-Romney on fox news really says something
  • accusations that you’re trying to exploit thin
  • Libyan government, noting that Libyan security officers fought back against the mob, helped protect American diplomats and took Mr. Stevens’s body to the hospital.
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    Romney criticizes Obama for not speaking out against the attacks on the US Ambassador in Libya. The article uses this to make Romney seem hasty, because Obama did condem the attack eventually. This just seems like another attempt of Romney's to gain the upper hand by nitpicking everything about the Obama administration. Numerous senators are also quoted in the article saying that this isn't a time for political division and Romney needs to be more careful before he says something stupid and insensitive. 
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    The first thing that stands out to me in this article is that the attack is described as a test of crisis skills rather than an actual thing that happened. I think that Obama is right in saying that "Governor Romney seems to have a tendency to shoot first and aim later", especially with his comments. He's trying so hard to appeal to people that he doesn't always think about the effects of what he says. I don't think that Romney understands that sometimes apology is the best way to handle things.
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    I think this is a time where criticizing the other party is not effective and should not be the main concern. I agree with you Sabrina, that sometimes an apology, or even acknowledgment, is the best way to handle things. But Obama has been criticized for less harsh action on foreign affairs so I'm surprised he didn't condem the attacks first. I guess he won't waver on how he feels he should approach these acts of terror.
Sami Perez

Ohio Unions Face Tough Battle With 'Super PACs' - NYTimes.com - 4 views

  • Conservative “super PACs,” financed with unlimited donations from corporations and wealthy individuals, have saturated Ohio and other battleground states with ads against President Obama.
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      Relates to reading "What You Should Know About Politics...But Don't." PACs affecting swing states, potentially determining results of election...
  • Republican super PACs are going to outspend Obama massively
  • labor’s true importance will be highlighted
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      Can the work of the people hold more influence over voters than the money and power of large corporations? 
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  • Some conservatives raise an eyebrow over unions’ claims that they are outgunned in the money game.
  • no Republican in modern times has been able to capture the White House without winning the state
  • — was due in no small part to labor’s get-out-the-vote push.
  • President Obama’s victory in 2008 here in Ohio
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      Evidence that the election depends on Ohio's stance, and Ohio's stance depends on the ability of the party to persuade voters through media and advertisement
  • anti-Mitt Romney script
  • which asserted that he had played a role in factories that closed, wages that dropped, workers who were fired
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    I'm wondering how effective knocking on people's doors in the hopes of persuading them towards a particular candidate can be. This strategy seems ineffective from how I imagine the conversation going, if a person even gets a door opened. Also, how I'm curious how many people in Ohio participate in the election?
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    Battling for voters' attention is extremely difficult, especially when the two candidates seem to be saying exactly opposite things. And, in a case like this, money can talk, and the Republicans are funded by a lot of wealthy groups. It seems so frustrating to me that money plays such a huge factor in how people vote, but it some cases, money can demonstrate popular opinion. The more donations a campaign receives, the more money people are willing to invest in that candidate.
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    I think I need to learn more about unions and how exactly they work to gain a better understanding of this article. It's interesting how important a state's votes can be in an election. Talking about the importance of winning over Ohio really stood out to me and how big of a deal that is. It's good that Obama's campaign is able to recognize that they will not raise as much money at Romney and are working to catch up on votes with other means.
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    I'd like to point out here that, while Restore Our Future--the conservative super PAC supporting Romney--has an expenditure quadrupling that of Priorities USA--the super PAC supporting Obama--the influence of corporations and wealthy independent donors has played a major role on both sides in this election [http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/superpacs.php].
Sabrina Rosenfield

For Mitt Romney, Ohio Remains a Vital Hurdle - NYTimes.com - 7 views

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    This article is about the struggle to win Ohio-a very divided state that seems to be necessary for either candidate to win. It outlines the tactics that each candidate is taking there while campaigning this weekend.
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    It seems like both candidates are criticizing the other pretty harshly. Do you think this tactic will convince Ohio either way? It's hard for me to get my confusion cleared up when there's all this political "punching".
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    I feel like this article makes me think there is something seriously wrong with the electoral college. Hearing that one state, Ohio, is the main focus of both candidates' campaigns as well as the part of the article that stated that no Republican president has ever been elected without winning Ohio made me feel like Ohio has an unfair say in the election which leads me to believe that the electoral college system needs to be reformed.
Savannah L

Obama-Romney Battle Plans Set for Final Charge - 4 views

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    this article lists each of the factors that are going to decide the last 2 months of the election, including money, debates, and swing states, all of which I expected. However, one factor that I didn't think about is Johnson's influence in the overall election. He seems to be gaining votes from republicans more than democrats, which could harm Romney more than I would have thought.
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    It's interesting to me that which candidate people vote for seems to have nothing to do with ideas or plans for the country, just how much advertising there is. Are people really this easily influenced by advertising? Also, it's funny that they have mock debates, Obama going against John Kerry as Romney. And, Savannah, I was surprised about Gary Johnson, too. I've never heard of him before.
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    I'm really bothers me that "Mr. Obama and Mr. Romney have to build substantial room into their schedules for fund-raising, including more time than they would like traveling to places that are not competitive politically but are flush with wealthy donors, starting with New York and Los Angeles." I don't like how so much of the election is spent raising money rather than making more explicit platforms and addressing important issues.
Danielle Polevoi

Week 8: In Polls, Biden Gets a Hold - NYTimes.com - 2 views

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    This article talks about Thursday's debate and whether Biden or Ryan won. This article says this past debate falls into this awkward middle ground. According to undecided voters, about 50% thought Biden won, 31% thought Ryan did, and 19% thought it was a tie. After the presidential debate I thought it was clear that the Republicans seemed more enthused, do you think that happened after this one?
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    I thought this article summarized pretty much how I felt about the debate. They both did a good job and were fairly evenly matched but in my opinion, Biden may have done just a tiny bit better. That being said the poll asking people who they thought won (taken of the people who watched the debate) confirmed my suspicion that many republican viewers thought Ryan did as well, if not better than Biden.
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    I thought Biden and Ryan's debate was completely different from the presidential debate. I know many democrats were disappointed in Obama's lack of critical response to Romney's points, arguing that he could have shot them all down easily and logically. Biden seemed to compensate for that completely, making Ryan seem like he didn't really know what he was talking about. What I thought was interesting about this debate, though, was that who won seems completely subjective based on personality equally if not more than policy. Many might thing Ryan won because Biden was laughing in a perhaps rude way the whole time, while many might think Biden won because he deserved to laugh at Ryan for saying things that didn't entirely make sense. I think this almost has more to do with personality preference than policy preference because in our debate chat room, where most of us were democrats, there were arguments both that the laughing was rude and that the laughing was called for, passionate, and helpful in Biden's claim. Overall, Biden's casualness was a great contrast to the formal, almost scripted attitude of Ryan. This is why the debate seems to be so varied in public response, and to me, why it depends on what the individual listener wants to hear to decide who really won the debate.
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    In my opinion, Biden won, but it certainly wasn't a runaway like it was for Romney. I agree with you all that they were pretty evenly matched, and that a lot of who won is based on who you already like. I don't think that this debate will have a significant impact on the election.
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    I believe that Biden won for his ability to: connect to the viewers, shoot down all of Ryan's ideas, and emphasize all of the good things that have happened under his and Obama's office. Like Sabrina said, however, Biden did not blow away the competition like Romney did to Obama, but he did seem to do better than Ryan. Also, like Sabrina said, this debate won't mean much to the voters even though they did raise some policy issues.
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    Personally, this debate did mean something to me as a voter. It did not make me want to change my position or anything, but it did boost my confidence in my already-made choices. I am wondering if this has become more of the reasoning behind these debates, or if they are still created to make people decide on who they are voting for?
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    I believe that Biden won this debate, you can tell that he was not afraid to correct or interrupt Romney. I feel like Biden in a way was very similar to how Romney acted in the first presidential debate. Between Biden and Ryan, I don't think Ryan did a bad job, but I felt like he was being to polite.
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    Sami, it sounds like you are one of the "re-energized" democratic partisans mentioned in the article. Do you guys agree that this past VP debate put the president in a better position for yesterday's debate?
Danielle Polevoi

Romney, After Debate Success, Shows Softer Side - NYTimes.com - 1 views

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    This article begins by acknowledging the softer side that Romney showed during the debate and then tailors off into a discussion about what he has been up to recently that makes him seem so compassionate. I know that during the RNC Mrs. Romney put an emphasis on his fatherly side. Do you think Romney is going over the top selling himself as this compassionate man? Or do you find it endearing? I think I find it somewhat of both. 
James Foster

North Carolina Blacks for Obama, Key in 2008, are Uncertain in '12 - 1 views

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    This article identifies who Obama needs to focus on in the Swing State of North Carolina, African Americans. They were one of the main reasons that North Carolina sided with the democrats for the first time in decades. After 4 years with Obama's policies, some of these people who were originally very enthusiastic about voting for Obama are now uncertain about this new election. This is a state that could provide a big influence in the election and it will be interesting to follow it and see what happens.
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    This article calls to attention something that I never thought about before: "I guess part of it is that history has already been made." A lot of people who voted for Obama in 2008 may have done so so that they could feel like they were changing history, being a part of the first black president, and now that excitement may have worn off.
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    I saw that too, Sabrina. I think that Obama has to highlight what it means for the African American population if Romney is elected. He can't rely on energy that he generated in 2008.
Abby Schantz

The Most Common Body Language from the Candidates - 1 views

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    This article shows in videos as well as analyzes the most common body language (hand and head signals) that each of the candidates use. It shows there example videos for each of the movements as well as analyzes them as to what the candidate may be trying to get across when using them. It also shows how often and where/when they used that particular motion in their convention acceptance speech. I found it really interesting because I can recognize every movement the article talks about and it reading this will force me to notice these particular movements in the future as I watch the candidates speak.
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    This article is very interesting because it shows you something you don't normally see and now that it has been revealed to you, you'll see it every time Romney or Obama give a speech. Now that I will look for these in speeches, I will hopefully be able to associate each different hand motion with a certain topic or idea given. This article will help me and those who read it to understand both candidate's speeches.
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    I loved this article Abby! I agree with James in that I will now be paying attention to these gestures. I found it interesting that Romney is thought to have a harder time seeming "personable" and "relatable" yet from what I saw, his gestures seem warmer than those of Obama. The article also mentioned this when they suggested Romney's gestures were "free-flowing". I wonder if Obama or Romney have any idea that they repeatedly make these motions, or if it's totally subconscious.
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    Wow this was super interesting, I as well noticed their gestures while the candidates debated. The gestures that stood out to me the most was the pointer because both of the candidates used this motion. Although they both use this gesture it means different for each. Obama's was more control and firm. To me it made him seem strong and confidant because it made him seem as if he was in control. Romney's movement was more relaxed which made me comfortable as well because he seemed calm and relaxed.
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    I loved this article. I think that gestures can really help viewers because even though you're not thinking about them, the gestures a candidate makes can make you trust or distrust them. I think it would be great if the candidates actually had some kind of gesture training, where experts told them what motions to make and how to connect them with what they're saying.
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    I would bet that they have had coaching on their body language. I also find that Romney's Head Tilt is very assuring. It is interesting to think that we are being bombarded with so many subliminal messages just by watching these two speak.
Will Rothman

Chris Christie Goes off Fox Script, Praises Obama and Dismisses Romney - 0 views

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    Governor Chris Christie (r) of New Jersey, a campaign supporter of Romney, went on TV to speak about the hurricane that had just hit his state.  In his interview, he praised Obama for his speedy response and said that all gratitude was due towards Obama.  Do you think that this will have a major effect on voters?  Do you think Hurricane Sandy will have an effect?
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    I do think it will have an effect on voters but in two different ways. I think for a lot of people they will opt out of voting because they have more immediate things on their minds. Or others, I think that in hard times people are grateful for bigger governments and it could potentially convince voters to vote for Obama rather than Romney.
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    I don't think that Hurricane Sandy will have a significant effect on voters in the states that were hit. Sure there will be some people who simply can't get to voting machines or voting machines won't be working in their area but these people won't have a significant effect on the outcome of the election. It seems that the states hit by this hurricane have really stepped up in figuring out new ways for the people living in their states to vote. For example I read that a state, I believe it to be New Jersey, created an email ballet to make it convient for those people who can't reach a working polling machine to vote.
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    James, I guess my question was more based on the politics of the natural disaster, like FEMA aid or Christie's response.
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    I want to go off of Abby's point in that I also think people feel safer with larger governments in times of natural disasters. But I don't necessarily think people will change their votes after Hurricane Sandy. I also think it's important to remember that (at least I think/hope) any President would take a step back during these disasters and stop campaigning to focus on the people in need. But sure, Governor Christie's praise for Obama is a nice reminder that at the end of the day, both republicans and democrats have similar values.
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    I also think that Chris Christie's endorsement meant a lot for voters. Additionally, and kind of unrelatedly, I think that Chris Christie will probably run for president in 2016.
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    I think hurricane sandy definitely had an effect on voters. Chris Christie acknowledging and appreciating Obama's support, shows how much Obama is willing to help out Americans no matter who they are.
James Foster

Boehner Tells House G.O.P. to Fall in Line - 0 views

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    This article talks about the speaker of the house, John Boehner, and his fight to get the House G.O.P to end the " nasty showdowns that marked so much of the last two years." Although there is still a large gap between the President and John Boehner, they both seem open to compromise, leading me to believe that America will be able to avoid the fiscal cliff that we are approaching and hopefully Obama's second term will get more done with the aid of John Boehner.
Abby Schantz

Democrats moving to Romney's Tax Plan - 0 views

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    This article discusses Congress coming back into session and the democratic members deciding that Romney's tax plan is a good move for the nation. What do you guys think?
Sami Perez

President Obama wins four more years as America delivers decisive verdict | World news ... - 0 views

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    This article discusses Obama's acceptance speech. It is interesting how he emphasized the ways in which we Americans are alike despite the fact the election itself is a giant, nation-wide debate about the ways in which we differ. "We are not as divided as our politics suggests," he says. Also, do you think "the best is yet to come?" Will Obama be able to face the challenges at hand, or will he disappoint the nation?
Sabrina Rosenfield

Mitt Romney on Same-Sex Marriage | Mitt Romney Central - 2 views

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    This isn't an article but Mitt Romney's views, as put forth by his campaign, on same-sex marriage. The quote at the top seems a bit contradictory to me-he says "I've also opposed unjust discrimination against anyone…for sexual preference", but then goes on to oppose same-sex marriage very strongly. Additionally, in the "Consequences" section, he doesn't seem to list any consequences. It also seems odd that one of his points is that "every child deserves a father and mother" when many children don't even have two parents. What do you guys think?
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    Romney is a prime example of his religion shooting his logic in the face. He needs to start getting more libertarian or just accept that he needs to leave religion out of politics. If every child deserves a mother and a father, why do we allow single parents to adopt or single mothers to raise their children? I'm sure that you know more same-sex families up in Haight-Ashbury than I do down here in a conservative Atlanta neighborhood, and gay rights just seems so unquestionable, but it sickens me that I have friends that question gay rights, because 'it is against the bible'. For instance, I hosted a summer camp for young girls this summer and some parents were turned off by the fact that I invited a girl with two moms, even though the girl was super sweet and well-behaved. We even had a girl leave our school after coming out in 8th grade because of bullying and depression because of how intrinsically tied religion has become in this issue. I think that this is absolutely ridiculous and that gay marriage rights are completely constitutional. While it may be against the bible and Joseph Smith, it isn't against the constitution and people need to recognize that. In 40 years, they are going to look like white supremacists standing outside of voting booths and I hate that. This is one thing that I absolutely can't stand about the republican party.
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    To the republican party I wonder if Romney's religion is an issue or not? To me most republicans tend to be christian and Romney is not. I know that much of conservatives values are based on the christian religion. I mean I am not expert on christian or morman religion, but I assume that there are definitely differences. I also agree that Romney's opening quote on the site contradicts himself. HE NEEDS TO BE MORE CLEAR!
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    The quote on the top does seem contradictory and confuses me on what Romney actually believes. I'm with you Sabrina that his "every child deserves a father and mother" does not indicate if a child's home will be healthy and this isn't often realistic with divorce and what not. Sort of a side-note but I heard that the Common App used to have "mother" and "father" rather than "parent 1" and "parent 2" for the information section but it has changed in the past 5 years I think. For me, I don't understand why marriage can be controlled by the government in general.
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    I agree with Danielle. I don't understand why marriage is controlled by the government or even involved in the government either. People are generally married by a religious figure, A preist, rabbi ect. If this is the case, shouldn't it be the choice of that preist or rabbit who is marrying the couple to deem if they are willing to marry them? That being said, with it being involved in politics as it is, I think it is a really hard question to consider. In my opinion, it is much more based on morals than anything else and like any other set of morals, one you determine your own, it is extremely hard to be influenced by others, fact, or reason in enough of a way to actually change them.
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    Well, not all republicans are Christian, and I would certainly classify Mormonism as a branch of Christianity, albiet an extreme one. The best analogy that I can think of is that it has the same relation to Christianity as Christianity does to Judaism, it is Christianity plus an additional book. Only the republican's social values are based on Christianity, not fiscal. It really is one of the stranger religions out there, it believes that native americans are descendants of hebrews. And I'm not saying that I agree with the GOP on this one, but I thought that you might like to know why it is such a big deal. If you've ever formed out an I-9 or W-4 tax form, marriage is a huge deal for the tax breaks. Also, marriage allows visiting rights in the hospital and the ability of one spouse to control what treatments the other can have in a life or death situation, something that a partner/girlfriend does not have. Spouses have control over insurance issues and that sort of thing. My solution? Start forcing churches to pay land tax and allowing gay marriage.
James Foster

Back to Work, Obama Is Greeted by Looming Fiscal Crisis - 0 views

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    Well, Obama won the election and will continue to be president for the next four years. The next question that should be asked is whether or not he will be able come to a compromise with the republicans in the senate and in the house of representatives. As stated by the speaker of the house, John Bohner, the politicians are ready to be lead not as republicans or democrats, but as Americans. Do you think there will be compromise and will there continue to be conflicts, leading to more problems with this nation's economy?
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    I really hope that they are able to compromise. It seems a little ironic that a Republican is making the cry for bipartisanship because in the past four years Republicans have been making it nearly impossible for Obama to get anything done, and I'm afraid that that will continue to happen.
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    I'm hoping that with Obama's four years of experience, he has better learned how to navigate the system. But this deadlock in Washington remains a concern for many, I think.
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