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Sabrina Rosenfield

Mitt Romney on Same-Sex Marriage | Mitt Romney Central - 2 views

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shared by Sabrina Rosenfield on 30 Sep 12 - No Cached
  • Sabrina Rosenfield on 30 Sep 12
     
    This isn't an article but Mitt Romney's views, as put forth by his campaign, on same-sex marriage. The quote at the top seems a bit contradictory to me-he says "I've also opposed unjust discrimination against anyone…for sexual preference", but then goes on to oppose same-sex marriage very strongly. Additionally, in the "Consequences" section, he doesn't seem to list any consequences. It also seems odd that one of his points is that "every child deserves a father and mother" when many children don't even have two parents. What do you guys think?
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  • Savannah L on 01 Oct 12
     
    Romney is a prime example of his religion shooting his logic in the face. He needs to start getting more libertarian or just accept that he needs to leave religion out of politics. If every child deserves a mother and a father, why do we allow single parents to adopt or single mothers to raise their children? I'm sure that you know more same-sex families up in Haight-Ashbury than I do down here in a conservative Atlanta neighborhood, and gay rights just seems so unquestionable, but it sickens me that I have friends that question gay rights, because 'it is against the bible'. For instance, I hosted a summer camp for young girls this summer and some parents were turned off by the fact that I invited a girl with two moms, even though the girl was super sweet and well-behaved. We even had a girl leave our school after coming out in 8th grade because of bullying and depression because of how intrinsically tied religion has become in this issue. I think that this is absolutely ridiculous and that gay marriage rights are completely constitutional. While it may be against the bible and Joseph Smith, it isn't against the constitution and people need to recognize that. In 40 years, they are going to look like white supremacists standing outside of voting booths and I hate that. This is one thing that I absolutely can't stand about the republican party.
  • Yadira Rodriguez on 05 Oct 12
     
    To the republican party I wonder if Romney's religion is an issue or not? To me most republicans tend to be christian and Romney is not. I know that much of conservatives values are based on the christian religion. I mean I am not expert on christian or morman religion, but I assume that there are definitely differences. I also agree that Romney's opening quote on the site contradicts himself. HE NEEDS TO BE MORE CLEAR!
  • Danielle Polevoi on 07 Oct 12
     
    The quote on the top does seem contradictory and confuses me on what Romney actually believes. I'm with you Sabrina that his "every child deserves a father and mother" does not indicate if a child's home will be healthy and this isn't often realistic with divorce and what not. Sort of a side-note but I heard that the Common App used to have "mother" and "father" rather than "parent 1" and "parent 2" for the information section but it has changed in the past 5 years I think. For me, I don't understand why marriage can be controlled by the government in general.
  • Abby Schantz on 07 Oct 12
     
    I agree with Danielle. I don't understand why marriage is controlled by the government or even involved in the government either. People are generally married by a religious figure, A preist, rabbi ect. If this is the case, shouldn't it be the choice of that preist or rabbit who is marrying the couple to deem if they are willing to marry them? That being said, with it being involved in politics as it is, I think it is a really hard question to consider. In my opinion, it is much more based on morals than anything else and like any other set of morals, one you determine your own, it is extremely hard to be influenced by others, fact, or reason in enough of a way to actually change them.
  • Savannah L on 08 Oct 12
     
    Well, not all republicans are Christian, and I would certainly classify Mormonism as a branch of Christianity, albiet an extreme one. The best analogy that I can think of is that it has the same relation to Christianity as Christianity does to Judaism, it is Christianity plus an additional book. Only the republican's social values are based on Christianity, not fiscal. It really is one of the stranger religions out there, it believes that native americans are descendants of hebrews. And I'm not saying that I agree with the GOP on this one, but I thought that you might like to know why it is such a big deal. If you've ever formed out an I-9 or W-4 tax form, marriage is a huge deal for the tax breaks. Also, marriage allows visiting rights in the hospital and the ability of one spouse to control what treatments the other can have in a life or death situation, something that a partner/girlfriend does not have. Spouses have control over insurance issues and that sort of thing. My solution? Start forcing churches to pay land tax and allowing gay marriage.
James Foster

In Dwindling Days of the Race, Romney Takes a Softer Tack - 1 views

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shared by James Foster on 01 Nov 12 - No Cached
  • James Foster on 01 Nov 12
     
    This article describes the shift that everyone has seen in Romney as the elections near.He has shifted from a more aggressive stance to a more moderate stance, attempting to show himself to be a candidate that appeals to all different voters. Do you think this shift will help or hurt Romney in this election? Does this shift show inconsistency or does it show his willingness to compromise his ideas for the betterment of America?
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  • Sami Perez on 01 Nov 12
     
    I think that it could be seen either way: as a commitment to the people or as a weakness in lack of ideals. While it seems nice to be always doing what the people want, I feel like our government was created to create equal opportunity for all, which means both gains and sacrifices for all people. If Romney lacks an ideal or a focus, how/where will we go forward? As we have learned from our history and even in Obama's decisions as president, too much compromise can get us nowhere, so where do we draw lines in order to reach our goals...if we have any?
  • Savannah L on 02 Nov 12
     
    Too much stubbornness can get us nowhere as well, remember. Our government is built on the principals of compromise, and Romney has a much more solid track record than Obama when it comes to business as well as pre-presidential government experience, which speaks way louder than anything else. Would Romney have been as successful if he weren't willing to compromise? No.
  • Sabrina Rosenfield on 02 Nov 12
     
    I think that this is an extremely good tactic for Romney: he appealed more to the far right and the people who were very set in their conservative values earlier in the campaign, and is now appealing to the more moderate undecided voters. People who were really excited about him as a candidate aren't going to change their minds about him now, so there's no downside for Romney. However, I'm not sure if his values are actually changing or if he's simply trying to appeal to a wider voter base.
  • Abby Schantz on 02 Nov 12
     
    Romney wouldn't be this far in the election if he weren't going to 'compromise' because he would be pro-choice and for same-sex marriage and have little support from the republican party at all. Compromise is great but only to a certain level. There has to be some point which people can't across and which we, Americans can depend upon to know that Romney won't change his views on. I would not be comfortable voting for President who changes his viewpoints to line up with the votes he needs the most just because who knows what positions he will hold if he actually does make it into office.
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