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Anya Wallace

Tapahtumat - Koti etsii ihmistä - romanikuvat mainoksissa. Irmeli Huhtalan va... - 15 views

    • Michael Tribone
       
      How is subjectivity constructed in the image, and whose subjectivity is constructed? Subjectivity is constructed through the language used in the text, the photo of the woman, her style of dress, and what she holds in her hands. I would say that both male and female subjectivity is constructed in the image. However, it would be from a traditional, heterosexual perspective that it is constructed. One that portrays femininity, motherliness, youthfulness, and abundance. What prior knowledge is assumed? I think that one's prior knowledge of the language and culture are assumed. Also the style of traditional dress is assumed and that one could be able to decode its meaning. Making visible in visual art (what does that mean in contemporary art)? Making visible in visual art means that we can identify the codes and conventions used to construct and image and text and navigate its meaning. It also means that when one is able to make the invisible visible, that one is able to identify the normalized meaning within a certain text.
    • Karen Keifer-Boyd
       
      A translator like http://translate.google.com/ is helpful to get an idea of the text if not your familiar spoken language. Indeed, Mike, there are other cultural codes that will be easily read by Finnish students. What do you see that differs in this milk advertisement image from those in the USA?
    • Karen Keifer-Boyd
       
      What associations do you have with milk advertisement? Finnish students might be familiar with a well-known, respected, and beloved ice-skater who is currently featured in milk advertising. Finnish current milk advertisement at http://ammattilaiset.valio.fi/portal/page/portal/Valioyritys/Ajankohtaista/Uutinen?p_id=5521 Young people in the United States might not be familiar with the 1958 milk advertisement linked below they are likely familiar with the current version. USA 1958 version of USA Milk advertisement at http://www.etsy.com/listing/98011435/vintage-pinup-milk-1958-advertisement USA current version of milk advertisement at http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gisele-Bundchen-GOT-MILK-advertisement-clipping-/160780568227
    • Johanna Frank
       
      How is subjectivity constructed in the image, and whose subjectivity is constructed? The subject is definetly a Roma woman who wears her National gown. In Western Countries it's usually blonde and good looking women who advertise. A stereotype of women symbolises health. For a product like milk, that should keep people healthy and make them strong this stereotype would be the first choice of a common advertiser. A Roma woman does in most people's eyes not stand for health and strenght, more for poverty. Irmeli Huhtala took this picture to change the common stereotypes. What prior knowledge is assumed? Roma is the name of a group of gypsies and a minority. They were excluded from society and even chased during the time between 1939-1945. Roma are in many people's eyes seen as poor people who steel and don't take jobs. This woman wears the national gown of Roma, so it is obvious what the woman represents. Making visible in visual art (what does that mean in contemporary art)? I think it's kind of a revolution in order to show people it is not always the strong and the good-looking who are used for advertising that is made visible in this picture. In contemporary art it means making people's eyes open for new advertises. Advertises which use stereotypes rule our society, so Irmeli Huhtala took the opposite like a poor woman. People might pay attention to this advertisment more that to some kind of advertisement, they are already used to.The opposite of a stereotype might get more attention than a conventional idea. Irmeli Huhtala gives people the question: Can a Roma woman advertise? Do people pay attention to this advertisement?
    • Deb Ryland
       
      I find your posting very interesting and insightful about Roma! Thanks!!
    • Michael Tribone
       
      Hello Johanna, Since I am unfamilair with the culture, I didn't feel that I could assume the ethnicity and the alternative viewpoint of the image. From my perspective, this could be a perfectly acceptable image within certain codes of patriarchy as an advertisement. We typically get movie and tv stars with a milk mustache advertising milk in the US.
    • Johanna Frank
       
      Patriarchy is a very interesting point of view, which the photographer tries to get rid of people's minds. But yes, there are mostly good looking people used in advertisements, that's why I really appreciate the artist's work, interpreted with revolution.
    • Iina Ruuskanen
       
      Michael, you had such an interesting point. You see heterosexuality, feminity, traditional values and abundance in the picture. However to the Finnish person this picture is a bit confusing, we might see just ethnicity. Those things you mentioned are there, but the person is "wrong" because she represents the discriminated minority. As Johanna pointed out, milk is usually advertised by very different kind of people and identities than Irmeli Huhtala represents. The perfect stereotype is the Finnish Dairy Queen. Since 70's, the new queen (or sometimes king) has been selected yearly. http://www.maitojaterveys.fi/www/fi/maito_ja_terveys_ry/maitotytto/index.php In Finland the ideal person advertising milk is blond, young woman, who is active and independent. She usually wears a national dress and a garland or at least there is something that points out that she comes from the countryside. Maybe some Finnish students remember the 10 years old ad about milks amazing "healing" power. The girl discovers that his boyfriend is cheating her. She drinks some milk (that she pulls up from the very picturesque well) and suddenly everything is good again. Huhtala's image makes the gypsy minority visible in the culture. Usually minorities are not seen in commercials. Placing a gypsy in an unexpected context, we can learn something about our attitudes and prejudices.
    • Santeri Savonlahti
       
      As Iina assumed about Finnish people's reactions, I immediately see the Roma ethnicity made visible. People on milk advertisements are always very traditional and all references are highly conservative. Roma people are considered outside of society and they are rarely shown visually on any media. Rant: I think these classic milk advertisements on schools are propaganda. There are even "milk ambassadors" who tour around schools praising everyone should drink milk like it's a necessity to a healthy body.
    • Pirjo Zukale
       
      I can see the photographer's aim of making Roma minority visible and provoke conversation. I think that's one of the "missions" contemporary art has. As Iina and Santeri already wrote, the portrait of Finnish Milk Maid has traditionally been something else than this. Typically we have seen blonde, young, beautiful young people in milk advertises (very often they have been athletes). Yet, I'm not sure I would pay attention to the ethnic minority of the model if this were a real advertisement. The model is young, beautiful and healthy, and as it is, a perfect person for a milk advertisement.
    • Henna Hyry
       
      As Pirjo said, the model looks like a perfect person for a milk advertisement. In my eyes advertisement is made to look very finnish and like stereotypical finnish milk advertisement. I think the picture is not very provocative as a single picture, but as a part of the whole exhibition it maybe has a stronger message. I think its funny how a National gown of the Roma woman looks like a dress of Finnish Milk Maid in this context.
    • kaciemcclintic
       
      As Prijo, and Henna stated, from a western point of view this women is a great candidate for a milk ad. As Prijo said the aim of contemporary art is to create conversation or debate, and I feel this ad does nothing of the sort for a westerner. When I think of milk in general I think of the word strong: eg.bones and body. Defining this as a Finnish milk ad, I would then assume the colors of the dress correlate to the finnish flag, and the style of dress to the traditional garb. Not knowing typical finnish milk ads I would find nothing amiss. Once told of its true political statement, its quite baffling to me. As depictions of western "Gypsies" are not deemed a lesser group of people. They have their own TV shows, and have had their culture highlighted in many different areas. Stating that, my depiction of a gypsy is completely different than the one depicted. The only correlation is darker hair and brown eyes Yet that could also be an Italian, Jewish, or Parisian person to me. The fact that Roma people, or gypsies, are considered poor, they steel and dont take jobs also differs from my notion of gypsies. (Take note: my only association with that group is through the TV) Gypsies are depicted ( at least in the TV shows ) as skinny and self sustaining. Correlating this ad to a typical US Milk ad I would assume the woman is important politically, or socially. Now understanding the woman depicted and how she differs from Finnish milk ads, I do understand her apparent contrast. I feel this piece has more impact knowing the context, and relevance to Finnish culture, and how it could create controversy. From a US standpoint I dont think this ad would make me want to drink milk, only due to the fact i dont want to be a robust milk maid.
    • Annu Kangas
       
      I think that Irmeli Huhta's image shows two colliding subjectivities; a traditional Finnish one and a Rom perspective. The picture is full of things that represent traditional, good Finnish way of life; The colors blue and white, the familiar Valio-logo, flowers and a glass of milk. The whole settings is from our traditional "milk girl -comercials" that have encouraged Finnish to drink milk, by showing a healthy young blond woman in a national outfit for a long time. But in the picture it is not a young blond girl in a Finnish traditional outfit, but a Rom girl in a Roma traditional outfit. These are vital things for understanding the meaning of this picture. The viewer should also know the status that Rom people have in our society and what kind of preconceptions are held towards them. I think this is a powerful picture that shows us that even those how think themselves liberal people can suddenly feel anxious within this picture. It forces people to question their thinking.
    • Nelli C
       
      Irmeli Huhtala is trying to bring forward the problem of rasism and discrimination of minority people in Finland. She is wondering why are all the faces in ad's are caucasian and why are the romanian people left aside. I think that the artist is trying to emphasize the subjecitivty of romanian people. In contemporary art making visible means that something that's normally silenced is being brought into the open. The subjects are usually sensitive or difficult. They often evoke passionate emotions.
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    1. How is subjectivity constructed in the image, and whose subjectivity is constructed? Subjectivity is constructed in this image through culture and ethnicity. The first thing that I notice in viewing this work is that I am looking at someone who is dressed in way that represents something different from my own culture and ethnicity. That then prompts me to inquire more about the subjects culture and ethnicity, the language displayed, and origin of dress being displayed. 2. What prior knowledge is assumed? The prior knowledge that is assumed concerning the image is that it is a milk advertisement, similar to the "got milk" advertisement series popular in the US. Also, as stated above, the prior knowledge that is assumed is that this image is a cultural representation of some sort. 3. Making visible in visual art (what does that mean in contemporary art)? In Contemporary Art, the idea of "making visible" means to bring a philosophy to to light by way of an image.
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    1. How is subjectivity constructed in the image, and whose subjectivity is constructed? Subjectivity is constructed in this image through culture and ethnicity. The first thing that I notice in viewing this work is that I am looking at someone who is dressed in way that represents something different from my own culture and ethnicity. That then prompts me to inquire more about the subjects culture and ethnicity, the language displayed, and origin of dress being displayed. 2. What prior knowledge is assumed? The prior knowledge that is assumed concerning the image is that it is a milk advertisement, similar to the "got milk" advertisement series popular in the US. Also, as stated above, the prior knowledge that is assumed is that this image is a cultural representation of some sort. 3. Making visible in visual art (what does that mean in contemporary art)? In Contemporary Art, the idea of "making visible" means to bring a philosophy to to light by way of an image.
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    1. How is subjectivity constructed in the image, and whose subjectivity is constructed? Subjectivity is constructed in this image through culture and ethnicity. The first thing that I notice in viewing this work is that I am looking at someone who is dressed in way that represents something different from my own culture and ethnicity. That then prompts me to inquire more about the subjects culture and ethnicity, the language displayed, and origin of dress being displayed. 2. What prior knowledge is assumed? The prior knowledge that is assumed concerning the image is that it is a milk advertisement, similar to the "got milk" advertisement series popular in the US. Also, as stated above, the prior knowledge that is assumed is that this image is a cultural representation of some sort. 3. Making visible in visual art (what does that mean in contemporary art)? In Contemporary Art, the idea of "making visible" means to bring a philosophy to to light by way of an image.
Karoliina Jokinen

Idiom: You must suffer for a beauty - 11 views

I don't know how popular this idiom is in Finland but in my family it is. When I was child I was very active, always going on and kind of a boyish girl. I had quite short hair but sometimes mum or ...

lauravattulainen

Best content in MAKING VISIBLE: Transcultural Dialogues Spring 2013 | Diigo - Groups - 4 views

    • Deb Ryland
       
      After vewing the Finnish advertisement for milk, I feel that subjectivity is constructed through the young woman's apparel, written text and glass of milk placement. The subjectivity is constructed by the viewer; which in this instance, is me. The culturally influenced apparel leads me to believe that there is a history being highlighted in the ad. There is an assumption that the viewer can read the text. Since I cannot, I assume that the young lady is telling me that milk is a good thing. Her aura is pure and innocent. By the size of the dress in comparison with the size of the milk drinking glass, I can only believe that milk adds pounds to the body. Her face and body are the first things I notice. Same with Gisele's milk ad (posted by Karen below), you notice the face and body but each ad has two totally different body images...same strategic placement of the glass (not the first thing you see). Visual arts are an important part of contemporary art because we are such a visual society/culture. We need to "see" products, text, people, etc. in order to communicate our thoughts and needs. This form of art also helps us determine who we are and who we want to be.
    • lauravattulainen
       
      Irmeli Huhtala's artwork of a milk advertising. How is subjectivity constructed in the image, and whose subjectivity is constructed? In the Valio's original add blond Finnish woman advertises milk in a same position. It represents traditional and stereotypical picture of milk's advertising: clean nature, raw material, beautiful woman etc. Irmeli Huhtala challenges this view by chancing the Finnish woman to Romanian woman. Romanians have been linguistic and cultural minority for 500 years so why Romanian couldn't be the face of Finnish milk. What prior knowledge is assumed? The advertisement assumes that the spectator knows Valio's value of Finnish brand and its strong heritage in our country. In the traditional advertising, Valio's milk has been advertised by young blond girls surrounded by cows in the field. Spectators are also assumed to know the Romanian's position in Finnish culture. Making visible in visual art (what does that mean in contemporary art)? The contemporary art tries wake people up to see the differences of many cultures. Concentrating on global matters, for example women's status and meaning in developing countries, could bring more publicity to contemporary arts. Combining different techniques, humor and irony also reflects the phenomenon and the contemporary art.
    • lauravattulainen
       
      Hello, My name is Laura, and I am a fourth year student at University of Helsinki. I will be teacher of lower degree. I come from Joensuu and I moved to Helsinki this autumn. I like to spend time with my friends and family.  My metaphor could be "Be yourself, everyone else is already taken", by Oscar Wilde, which means in Finnish: "Ole oma itsesi, kaikki muut ovat jo käytössä"  My picture:  http://sani-valoakohti.blogspot.fi/2011/03/huhtikuun-teema-ole-oma-itsesi.html  It is okay to be different, it is okay to be you:) that is what I would like to say in my metaphor and picture.
Michael Tribone

Irmeli Huhtala's artwork of a milk advertising - 20 views

Kids are definitely funny! In the State College, PA area, we have a local commercial that is sponsored by a dairy council about the virtues of chocolate milk. Chocolate milk for your kids as a snac...

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lklampi

Irmeli Huhtala's artwork of a milk advertising - 4 views

How is subjectivity constructed in the image, and whose subjectivity is constructed? Subjectivity is constructed around the Romanian woman, who has elements from Romanian and Finnish culture; she ...

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lklampi

Diigolet | Diigo - 2 views

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    • lklampi
       
      "Hope springs eternal" Hi! My name is Laura and I'm studying special education in University of Helsinki. My saying is " Toivossa on hyvä elää", which means (as I see it) that it's good to live with a hopeful mind because you won't get as much as you wish for. It's a saying with a hint of sarcasm.. 
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    Interesting idiom Laura. It's fascinating because of how you interpret the idiom. When I read the same idiom, I see a religious meaning behind the words. If we have no hope, what do we have to live for? It is very enlightening to hear other's points of view on this same idiom. Did you have an image that accompanies this idiom? I am curious.
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    Hahaa! I see a little piece of Finnish pessimism and dark humor in that idiom... I am also curious to see your picture.
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    Thank you for your comments! I totally forgot to add the picture so here it is! It is a picture of lottery coupon. I think it reflects my idiom quite well, at least some way.. http://yle.fi/uutiset/veikkaus_samanlaiset_lottokupongit_myyjan_virhe/5978043#galleria744
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    As Katariina I see the idiom in sarcastic light. In my experience Finns use it like something will never happen. For example on the web forums where OP (original poster) is promising to report back: http://tinyurl.com/am97e58
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    Great example!
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    Idioms convey cultural ways of seeing-MAKING VISIBLE values through culturally specific humor often conveyed through images directly (e.g., omelette, curl, chin) or indirectly as with the selected images (e.g., lottery ticket, waiting so long one becomes a skeleton, nail in hand) that communicate transculturally.
Michael Tribone

Irmeli Huhtala's artwork of milk advertising - 11 views

Yes. My reading of the image was different because I didn't know the codes within the image for Finnish people. The image hailed certain aspects of my culture and identity and naturally I went to t...

Lindsay Bayer

Oh So Lovely Vintage: Friday Faves. - 3 views

    • Lindsay Bayer
       
      Idiom: "Head in the Clouds" Meaning: To daydream; Not being fully aware or in the present moment; Being distracted by inner thoughts I'm definitely a dreamer. I can easily be inspired by something that presents itself in my everyday life, which makes me want to stop whatever I'm doing to write or create. However, this tendency to satisfy my creative urges have left me with unfinished projects and a bit of a procrastinator. Now that I'm a new mom, I'm learning to be fully attentive to my daughter's needs at a given moment. Through motherhood (and also prayer and yoga), I'm becoming more aware of my mindset and I'm striving to live "out of the clouds" and in the present moment.
    • Johanna Frank
       
      Daydreaming is something that inspires you in life and creates your own world but unfortunately not helpful to start work. I think everyone finds their own way to be set on the ground again. In my case I meet friends that bring me back to life. But still, daydreaming is necessary to just cut off your mind of the world.
    • Annu Kangas
       
      We have a exactly same idiom in Finnish language: "Pää pilvissä". I think that having your head in the clouds is also rather admirable ability. Sometimes it's so hard to stop worrying about all the things you need to do, when all you need is to just think about something nice for a while. Children are a good example. Is there anything more admirable (maybe a bit enviable as well?) than a child who is clearly in a whole other world while playing, or drawing ect.? I think we should be more tolerable when it comes to dreaming. After all it's dreaming that all the real good things start with. :)
    • lauravattulainen
       
      So true. Dreaming is a relevant part of humanity. I think that is what makes us happy. Without dreams and visions life could be grey and depressing. Dreams helps us keep going. Dreams are also very important to arts and that is one factor where I scoop topics. Even now, in my university's art project my subject is one of my biggest dreams, leaving to Africa to help children and women to have better life. Lifting women's status would help many societies because women are in most cases the supporting pillar that keeps everything together.
    • Janie Leck-Grela
       
      My head was always in t he clouds growing up- and even today as an artists. In elementary shcool my teachers would send notes home to my mother reporting : "Janie daydreamed all day and lloked out the windo during class." Partly to being so intrigued with my own ideas or even undiagnosed ADD- I now see that as an asset. So now when my nine year old daughter's teachers report that she is unfocused- I smirk because I know she is just focused on 'something else' just as I was.
  • "Head in the clouds" print.
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    Procrastination is a great motivator. I often need to not do the work in order to solve the problem. It needs to run in the background. I need to walk the dog or answer email or work on another project in order to get it done. Music helps a lot. It doesn't have to fit within this postmodern, industrialized formula. Hands on the keyboard! Now produce greatness! Otherwise I just stare at the computer screen. Data, data, data. I cannot make bricks without clay.
Johanna Frank

Bilder | Stadtchinesen - Der China-Blog - 7 views

    • Johanna Frank
       
      Working makes life sweet. I heard that idiom several times in my childhood because my parents thought work is the most important thing in life. When I came to visit China, I found out, that it's necessary to find a balance between work and freetime. Work is definetly necessary, but there should be time to relax too.
    • Karen Keifer-Boyd
       
      What did you experience in your visit to China that changed your perceptions? How would you change the idiom?
    • Johanna Frank
       
      Well, I saw that people's only target in life is work. There is no time for sitting down and relax, there is only time for their job. In Europe we are used to have a cup of coffee, and a small chat with our friends when we are tired, but in China people connect everything with work. In China I would change the idiom to: Working makes life work and working makes people survive.
    • lauravattulainen
       
      I believe that the work should never be more important to your family and friends. Money and income are important in life, but they do not ever go over the family. Difficult moments in life family support you, the job is not.
    • kaciemcclintic
       
      I like this idiom. I understand this as working is something that's not especially fun, but necessary economically and globally. In doing work the moments that truly make you happy in life will be so much better knowing you could be working. Just like you wouldn't know how well the good times are in life without the bad. As depicted with the guys frustration and the enjoyment of talking with others.
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    Your idiom reminds me of the saying, "Do what you love and you will never work a day in your life." It seems that you saw a different sort of work ethic in China. In America, sometimes it seems as if there is a negative association with work, as the statement above suggests; working is something to be avoided.
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    Interesting... In Finland it seems like there is two major ways of seeing work now days, some do what they love and work nearly always and everywhere as Lindsay pointed out and some work to support their free time and would like to work as little as possible. Free time is seen much more valuable than work and work is definitely seen mostly something that you should avoid if you can. Working life is thought to be too stressful an insecure. It`s interesting because we have a long tradition of high work ethics in our culture from Martin Luther and the Lutheranism.. The idiom I repeatedly heard when growing up is also a educational one and it directly goes something like this "The greedy one has a crappy ending" (in Finnish "Ahneella on paskanen loppu"). Apparently you have a saying whit a similar meaning "All covet, all lose". My mother used to say that to us (to me and my sister and brother) when we weren't grateful enough for the things that we had or when we didn't want to share our things or when it took a forever to choose a candy from a bowl meant for everyone or when we took too much to ourselves. It worked at least on me. To be a greedy and ungrateful person sounded awful and it still does. But when you look at the modern world and all the economic problems we have, especially how and who has caused them and what the solutions have been so far, it seems like the greedier you are the better. Let's hope that in the end the idiom will show its true meaning to all of these "wall street people" of the world... Here is a link to a bit macabre picture that illustrates the meaning of the idiom: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4083/5186898309_d5e314f66c.jpg
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    Working makes life sweet. I can identify with it. I can also see the Communist propaganda in the message, too. My grandparents are the closest living representatives of that idiom, but it was introduced and reinforced by my great grandparents as new immigrants in America. My families came to the United States to make better lives for themselves and grabbed at opportunity. Working hard and working more than one job was how they achieved a level of success for their family and children. And that work ethic was passed down in subsequent generations. However, I think most of us in the family are trying to achieve more of a balance with work and life. My idiom is "The early bird gets the worm." Your post also makes me think of "Idle hands are the devil's work." Both I've heard from my Grandfather Joseph. Idle hands means that if you have nothing to do, Satan will make good use of them. Have something to do or Satan will use you for his bidding. Work or be the devil's pawn! Michael
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    I have enjoyed reading the postings on Johanna's idiom on "working makes life sweet". I see it as working makes you appreciate the life you have outside of the work place; you appreciate vacations and time off more. Without work, though, a lot of us wouldn't be able to enjoy a vacation because they usually cost money. It is a vicious cycle that we continue to live by. It is also the way people "view" one another here in the U.S. First thing we usually ask someone is "what do you do for a living?" It is assumed that you work and if you don't...wow, you must be rich or lost your job. It is a shame because the economy is so bad and a lot of people need to work but can't find a job. Minnvain's visual that ties into the idiom "the greedy one has a crappy ending" is perfect! I never heard the saying before. The greedy one usually does have a crappy ending. It makes me think of the game shows we see on television. There is always that one contestant that thinks they should go on rather than stop and take the prize they have already won. This can also apply to those who go gambling. Sometimes, "Lady Luck" isn't on your side!
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    I definitely agree with lauravattulainen. Work should not consume your life; You only live once, which seems to be a fitting idiom seen a lot in the Penn State area. When your too busy with work, you miss out on important things life has to offer. For example a husband missing out on his children growing up because he is too involved in his career is a prime example. Experiencing your children growing up only happens once in your life and you should create a separation between work and your personal life so you experience these things life has to offer. That is only one example, but the moral is take your time to enjoy life, there is more to it than just work!
Deb Ryland

Your Eyes Are Bigger Than Your Stomach - 1 views

    • Deb Ryland
       
      "Make sure your eyes aren't bigger than your stomach" is the idiom I would like to share with this week's lesson. It is a saying I heard many times growing up; especially when our family of six went out to dinner (which didn't happen a whole lot). I know this was mainly to remind us as children that we shouldn't waste food, let alone pay for food and then not eat it. This idiom is reminding the person to only take what food they think they are capable of finishing. People tend to go overboard by piling up the food on their plate because they are so hungry at the time and they THINK they can order one of each item off the menu. Once they begin eating, their stomach becomes full but their plate is not empty. This is also a common occurence found at restaraunts that serve buffets; there are no limits or portion control signs warning people to stop placing food on their plate. I find it is a good idiom and reminds people not to be wasteful especially with food. To this day, I use this idiom with our son.
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    This is very good idiom and also quite current. I think it is a little bit sick that we in Western wellfare societes can throw very much food in carbage and same time other people are dying in hunger.
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