(HBSN) How to Build a Social Network

Ya'll come and give us your opinion.

Agree with Frank. There is no use in letting Barney tell us where he lives, if we want to use the map gadget to choose a good place for a meatspace meeting. So this particular wave, given its intent, should have been restricted to the group. In many cases, I think it could be harmless to open a wave to the public: the crowd can contribute good things, we all know that... But I still think that, by default, wave access should be restricted to group members. It would maximize the sharing of relatively private or "sensitive" information within the group. It would also help keeping the discussions on topic (side-tracking is very easy in all forum discussions and the more people you have in the conversation the more side-tracking you get). Now of course anyone in the group can invite anyone, even "Public" into the wave: just like anyone who has access to a private document can copy it and paste it on a blog or any public place.

Yes F1 (Francois, I will be F2)!! i think we can use the wave structures to keep things private and the fact that any of us can add anyone can be moderated by convention and the trust we have begun to build with each other. plus the reinforcement from the system, in that we all can see who has added whom. Plus the ability to delete participants will come along eventually. Thanks F1!!!

"POiU is being created because the world is changing. The recent expansion of social media platforms shrank our world and broadened people's ability to communicate and connect regardless of physical location, cultural or even linguistic barriers. In addition to immense opportunities, we face significant challenges as a community. If not addressed and decisively tackled, these challenges could jeopardize the quality of life and even our very existence as an evolving human civilization. There are warning signs already: the widespread economic and financial instability, unclear energy future, uncontrollable environmental changes and growing gaps and failures to deliver adequate food, water, healthcare, education, and other resources and services that support society wellbeing and development. These warning signs could lead to acute and systemic crises resulting in general misery and destruction. Our best chance at overcoming this outcome is to utilize the tools we have today to tap into the collective wisdom and together select the best solutions and together put them into action. History teaches us that war has been the way in which countries could achieve total coordination to pull out of massive economical crises. But today, social networks present an alternative, allowing total coordination of the masses. This is a tool that, for the first time in our evolution, offers a constructive way to unlock the power of our collective mind and unite us under a common purpose of finding answers to our current challenges. Our future is at stake. Focusing on the opportunities and solutions, POiU will capitalize on the power of social networking to enable positive change. Together, we are building a fully functioning online society with governance and commerce, fostering a personal sense of place and belonging. This effort is empowered by POiU's launch of a collaborative platform that aims to become one component of the new coordinating system we need. The answers to our cha

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Exchange_Trading_Systems does look like the general idea. I do think that the world is entering a period of 'collectivity' but it's not formed in any place that's far enough along to know what to do with it except to 'volunteer' at this point.

ok... this is eerily like what we were describing yesterday in: http://message.diigo.com/message/so-i-will-now-try-a-bit-of-blogging-my-aunt-observed-today-that-social-networking-is-the-21st-cen-723705 Also, they say it is a country. VERY interesting. Kinda reminds me of Mr Lee's Greater Hong Kong franchises in Neal Stephenson's "Snowcrash" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Crash Of course by the time set in the story private countries are physical and not only virtual.

Ouch, David Brin ...

his book is on my shelf, my wife started reading it but stopped as she found it too depressing - it will likely be right up my alley - if we accepted the premise that we would be in a surveilled state then it would be enormously helpful that it was a commons- I do not accept that we should allow this surveilled state to happen, nor that we should accept it as good, even if it is a commons. I also don't believe that it will be a commons. It should not exist, and should be fought every step of the way by people whose minds have not opened so far that their brains have fallen out. It is completely possible with technology to give individuals the power to set levels of privacy to particular counter parties. It is politically possible to regulate the use of surveillance. One can make the argument that people can simply surveil with their camera phones, but you do not see that happening as it would be culturally unacceptable (rude if you will). I find the acceptance of big brother as inevitable troubling.

David Brin used well thought out logic to make his argument. Zuckerburg is an idiot. He's the face of 1984's Big Brother, except at puberty.

Cool top-level view structure. We need a structure like this for social mapping as an alternative. I always wanted one of these for my twines in Twine. What if everyone who had a Diigo had one of these to SEE what was being created and to whom they are connected.

That's really COOL. I like the relativity with size relationship thing they gots goin' on. I want it to go on more though--3 levels just isn't enough. It would also be incredible if we could spin-axis and view from other directions as well. Remember this?   http://www.twine.com/item/11808fysj-523/3d-twine

I will always remember that!!! it is still alive somewhere on my harddrive!!

a warning, that said single use software is really boring, so count me out if that's the idea, hence why I keep saying we're not going to make any money on this, so let's move on and get with creating the damn thing

we have at least 10-ish people who deeply care, that translates to a statistical user base of considerably more, likely enough to fund this

OK...now we are looking in the right mirror. I still feel that there can be a parallel path of developing an organization (spectrum from company through content producers union) AND start some prototyping work and see where it leads us.

"My next project with Open New Zealand is to build a community of data users. I want to see users supporting each other, I want to build a tight feedback loop between those who want data and those who can provide it, to create an environment where the data users can support each other, and to make it easier to assess the value created by government-released open data. Henry Kissinger said, "each success only buys admission to a more difficult problem". I look forward to learning what the next problem is." We have this ... let's build it!

"First, figure out what you want the world to look like and why. It might be a lack of corruption, it might be a better society for citizens, it might be economic gain. Whatever your goal, you'll be better able to decide what to work on and learn from your experiences if you know what you're trying to accomplish. Second, build your project around users. In my time working with the politicians and civil servants, I've realised that success breeds success: the best way to convince them to open data is to show an open data project that's useful to real people."

This is right up the FishMan's alley! Let's explore this!

and fast!

check "Together We Learn" site inside cargo. video shows a AR enhanced web tool for teaching English grammar. Printed flash cards with barcodes on the back that the student shows to the webcam to confirm or deny their choices about the meaning of the card. Pretty cool

really more *net than HBSN, but thinking ahead>>> architecture posted earlier with content producer literally keeping posession, serving out content with a pay and privacy wrapper to sites who do nothing but resolve to the content (ie don't keep it) sort of like video embeds that can be yanked remotely - I will be paying attention to this guy

incidentally though I have yet to clear through his blog, lots of interesting headings in there, it's not just the content that can be bought and sold, the metadata sets (aspects, object types, class types) can be much more readily sold as can the next level of indirection, presentations for those aspects - next item up for bids is the structure (or instance relations) when one 'adopts' a piece of someone's perspective it could register a microtransaction of value. paying for interest in a piece of content makes more sense than paying for reading it, though interest is a bit trickier to ascertain - value assignment can be done in arrears by tracking liquidity events through the corpus of material the person getting that liquidity has 'experienced' in their travels, ie they may have been 'influenced' by another piece of music in their composition and not even realize it, but the music analysis bot and history bot will suck that money down to the original composer, which takes me to a post wildcat shared about IP, will go find now... scuffle scuffle

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Good to know, Jack. Please share if you find good examples of such searches with "great results over Google". Today I seem to have problems signing in (with Chrome - but it works with Firefox), so I suppose they are making some changes. I'm having some problems with the collections: can't find how to create a new collection or edit an existing one. Have you been using collections yet? Do they work for you?

Do you have the iPhone app. for Evri - EvriVerse? Very interesting. It uses the mapping that I wrote about in my letter to all of this group today in response to the Twain letter.

Look Jack--this is how you monetize. basic functionality is free--bookmarking one item to one group at a time. Premium account gets added functionality to do more stuff faster. Free crack pipe with every purchase.

beat you by 2 hours jack LOL

@Kurt - LOL

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Google Inc said on Wednesday it would build a super high-speed broadband network for up to half a million people around the United States in order to experiment with the possibilities of a network running at 100 times current speeds.

It'll be even better when the guy in the holo-chair next to you can get up and slap you silly while you're napping in the meeting.

hey another use for haptic body suits!

so we are not the only ones discovering that it is the more of the social and less of the network...so, the network is the issue???

I think it's an issue more of human attention span and capability. It's much easier to keep tabs on and interact with a smaller group because we lack the ability to divide our attentions out beyond a certain point. There are already enough distractions in the world between family, work, neighborhood, town, city, state, country, etc. Adding another layer of interaction complicates everything else that is going around. In a small group, voices can be picked out from the crowd and heard--attended to. In a large group, a single voice gets drowned by the activity of everyone else, and the 'group' loses identity as a group, and becomes a mob. Besides, I like the bulletin board analogy--it really brought this idea. Time to stop looking at all the pinheads and pair down the clutter, right?

and here's the future.

either that or baseball video games.

ah ha ...

Yet another social bookmarking service?

Jack, I connected with you on Strings. So, from now on, you'll get an email whenever I do something on my PC or in my bedroom... No, just joking: I haven't shared anything and don't really see the point yet. But if you share something, I'll probably get a notification :)

haahaaa...T.M.I. with strings. despite their assertion of multiple privacy levels, the mere fact that they WANT to follow everything you do in order to make personalized recommendations is what frightens me about the directions of Web 3.0. Who will watch the watchers? Goog is one thing with their 'do no evil' credo, but the idea of 24/7 active monitoring smacks of more than just altruistic effort to me. I'm gonna let someone else play with this strings...

Interesting. Looks like Nova's moved on from T2.

I think Nova has contributed greatly, and will continue to do so. His gifting is not in finishing, but in starting - starters and finishers are seldom the same person. What is unusual here is that a starter is given large amounts of capital but the vc's don't know enough to pair him with a finisher. One of my business partners said a business needs a dreamer, a doer and a sob. To which I asked, so that makes you.....? T2 is based on what I know of it (unless they've come up with some scaling algorithm, which isn't a product, and should be sold based on the patent to MS or google) fails on differentiation, and is entering a market against formidable incumbents. Hence Nova's thoughts that the next 'google' needs to differentiate itself further are actually quite valid. If I were Nova's vc on T2 I would pull the plug. Never talk about your next project.

Not so long ago, in fact just a couple years ago, Twine (T1) was far ahead of the competition in the area of interest networking (building of communities around interests). I think Nova and T1 really did a good job in *pioneering* the idea that social networking should not just focus on people connecting to each other but rather on the topics that people share an interest for. For some reasons, Twine did not try to stay ahead in this field and didn't integrate improvements that seemed quite obvious. I would have liked to see T1 evolve towards real semantic tagging, connecting Twine tags and topics to linked data entities. I would have liked to see a T1 with stronger collaborative filtering: even the "like" button that was - i believe - introduced by FriendFeed, is now everywhere, except on Twine... I don't think that what Nova is discussing here has much to do with T2, just like I don't think that the semtweet project that he tweeted about a couple weeks ago has much to do with T2 either. I agree that so far Nova has been a dreamer, an inventor, more than a "doer", but I still like to check what he is dreaming about. Sometimes his dreams seem very deep and interesting: I don't find the current T2 dream (faceted search based on Apache-Solr technology) very exciting, unless something big comes out of it with respect to RDF. I am not that excited either about Semtweet, unless again it brings along something big with respect to RDF. And now Nova is sharing some new thoughts about some new user-machine interaction that wouldn't be based on search but on something else... I agree it's still pretty vague and not very convincing yet...

"Third, we learn some cool things about how Aardvark works. Check this quote out: "...unlike quality scores like PageRank [13], Aardvark's quality score aims to measure intimacy rather than authority. And unlike the relevance scores in corpus-based search Screen shot 2010-02-02 at 5.57.33 PM.png engines, Aardvark's relevance score aims to measure a user's potential to answer a query, rather than a document's existing capability to answer a query." Also interesting: " this involves modeling a user as a content- generator, with probabilities indicating the likelihood she will likely respond to questions about given topics. Each topic in a user profile has an associated score, depending upon the confidence appropriate to the source of the topic. In addition, Aardvark learns over time which topics not to send a user questions about...""

Look at what we're doing with 'reputation!' Whatever it turns out to be, I think it's amazing! I've never met any people on our list! Amazing!

haven't read yet, but Intimacy is a different dimVal than Reputation - related of course, and it has nothing to do with haptic body suits, though I suppose that would be a different type of Reward - looks interesting, off to scrounge around