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Jack Logan

Eliminating the Need for Search « Nova Spivack - Minding the Planet - 7 views

www.novaspivack.com/...eliminating-the-need-t-search

shared by Jack Logan on 16 Jan 10 - Cached
  • Jack Logan on 16 Jan 10
     
    Interesting. Looks like Nova's moved on from T2.
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  • Jack Logan on 16 Jan 10
     
    Are we never going to see T2? Thoughts?
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 16 Jan 10
     
    It looks like even Nova has realized now the futility of his "project". It makes me think that he is more on the side of experimentation and pushing boundaries that actually developing anything substantial. One of the things I've been taught in my work is that the difference between dreamers and doers is that dreamers never stop dreaming. Doers know when to take the dream, flesh it out and make it into something that works. Nova is a dreamer, and has left a wake of half-baked thoughts behind him as he continues to seek the next "thing", having lost interest in the last "thing" he experimented with. There are a lot of once-promising ghost towns that have been cooked up and discarded that trail behind him like the chains on Dickens' ghost of Christmas past. Earthweb, NVention, Lucid, Radar, Twine. All flittering bubbles of inspiration that never grew up, and/or were abandoned by the dreamer just short of success. I think we've already glimpsed the "future" as Nova sees it, and I for one have learned that what ever his future is, I don't want to participate.
  • Jack Logan on 16 Jan 10
     
    +1
  • frank smith on 17 Jan 10
     
    @fish yeah we have a saying for those "dreamers'. it's "Put down the bong and DO something!!" Dreaming is something i do when i sleep. hoping,planning and working i do when awake. Keep waking em up Man!! And double +1 to your commet about interactions with Nova the Snake Oil Salesman!!
  • François Dongier on 17 Jan 10
     
    -1 :-)
  • Kurt Laitner on 17 Jan 10
     
    I think Nova has contributed greatly, and will continue to do so. His gifting is not in finishing, but in starting - starters and finishers are seldom the same person. What is unusual here is that a starter is given large amounts of capital but the vc's don't know enough to pair him with a finisher. One of my business partners said a business needs a dreamer, a doer and a sob. To which I asked, so that makes you.....? T2 is based on what I know of it (unless they've come up with some scaling algorithm, which isn't a product, and should be sold based on the patent to MS or google) fails on differentiation, and is entering a market against formidable incumbents. Hence Nova's thoughts that the next 'google' needs to differentiate itself further are actually quite valid. If I were Nova's vc on T2 I would pull the plug. Never talk about your next project.
  • François Dongier on 17 Jan 10
     
    Not so long ago, in fact just a couple years ago, Twine (T1) was far ahead of the competition in the area of interest networking (building of communities around interests). I think Nova and T1 really did a good job in *pioneering* the idea that social networking should not just focus on people connecting to each other but rather on the topics that people share an interest for. For some reasons, Twine did not try to stay ahead in this field and didn't integrate improvements that seemed quite obvious. I would have liked to see T1 evolve towards real semantic tagging, connecting Twine tags and topics to linked data entities. I would have liked to see a T1 with stronger collaborative filtering: even the "like" button that was - i believe - introduced by FriendFeed, is now everywhere, except on Twine... I don't think that what Nova is discussing here has much to do with T2, just like I don't think that the semtweet project that he tweeted about a couple weeks ago has much to do with T2 either. I agree that so far Nova has been a dreamer, an inventor, more than a "doer", but I still like to check what he is dreaming about. Sometimes his dreams seem very deep and interesting: I don't find the current T2 dream (faceted search based on Apache-Solr technology) very exciting, unless something big comes out of it with respect to RDF. I am not that excited either about Semtweet, unless again it brings along something big with respect to RDF. And now Nova is sharing some new thoughts about some new user-machine interaction that wouldn't be based on search but on something else... I agree it's still pretty vague and not very convincing yet...
fishead ...*∞º˙

Evri Acquires Radar Networks In Semantic Search Consolidation - 8 views

techcrunch.com/...evri-acquires-radar-networks

shared by fishead ...*∞º˙ on 11 Mar 10 - Cached
  • Evri Acquires Radar Networks In Semantic Search Consolidation 10 Comments Share6 Buzz it by Erick Schonfeld on Mar 11, 2010 After shopping itself around to all the major search engines, Radar Networks finally found a buyer in another semantic search startup. Today, Evri is announcing that it will be acquiring Radar Networks, along with its core technical team and its main product, Twine. Rumors surfaced yesterday on ReadWriteWeb that Evri was being acquired, but that is not the case. Evri is the acquirer. I spoke with both CEOs this morning. They would not disclose the terms of the deal, but it is safe to assume that it was largely an equity-based transaction. Both Evri and Radar Networks share Paul Allen’s Vulcan Capital as their largest shareholder. Radar has raised $24 million in total capital, while Evri has raised $8 million. (At least that is what has been publicly disclosed. Paul Allen has poured much more money into Evri almost single-handedly, perhaps even more than Radar raised). Radar was unable to raise more during the recession and kept pushing out the release of its next product, T2, an ambitious project to create a semantic index of the Web. Using this semantic index, T2 can do a better job understanding what each Web page it indexes is about.
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 11 Mar 10
     
    buy buy birdie
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  • François Dongier on 12 Mar 10
     
    I think that's great news... Seriously, I do. Evri is really a very nice product.
  • Jack Logan on 12 Mar 10
     
    It's a really great match! Let's hope they do something great!
  • Jack Logan on 13 Mar 10
     
    I've begun to use it to do lots of Search. I find it to be a much more interesting experience with great results over Google. I think the Evri + Twine result is a terrific match and will provide others some of the semantic tools to build onto the semantic web.
  • François Dongier on 13 Mar 10
     
    Good to know, Jack. Please share if you find good examples of such searches with "great results over Google". Today I seem to have problems signing in (with Chrome - but it works with Firefox), so I suppose they are making some changes. I'm having some problems with the collections: can't find how to create a new collection or edit an existing one. Have you been using collections yet? Do they work for you?
  • Jack Logan on 13 Mar 10
     
    Do you have the iPhone app. for Evri - EvriVerse? Very interesting. It uses the mapping that I wrote about in my letter to all of this group today in response to the Twain letter.
fishead ...*∞º˙

Nova Spivack (novaspivack) on Twitter - 1 views

twitter.com/novaspivack

shared by fishead ...*∞º˙ on 22 Jan 10 - Cached
  • novaspivack @melissapierce danka! less than 10 seconds ago from TweetDeck in reply to melissapierce As for T2 -- we've made more progress... new stuff in lab to automate even more of the process for webmasters... not in my screenshots yet less than a minute ago from TweetDeck After 9 years of working on semantic web, it's good to see it finally being understood by business people. Not just us geeks. 2 minutes ago from TweetDeck Today I have been inundated with new interest in T2. Seems that vertical semantic search is hot all of a sudden. Finally. 2 minutes ago from TweetDeck The Twine T2 project is by far the most advanced vertical semantic search ecosystem platform. Check out: http://bit.ly/75amWI 5 minutes ago from TweetDeck The new battlefield of search is going to be around vertical semantic search. This is the year. It's coming. 6 minutes ago from TweetDeck
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 22 Jan 10
     
    And death knell for Twine begins to toll...
  • Jack Logan on 22 Jan 10
     
    Here are some death knell sounds that I heard a lot in the '80s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTlSZeLfS90
fishead ...*∞º˙

Bing, Google, And The Enigmatic T2: The Race For A Complete Semantic Search Engine - 7 views

www.techcrunch.com/...gle-radar-semantic-search-race

shared by fishead ...*∞º˙ on 22 Jan 10 - Cached
  • It’s easy to read too much into these idle Tweets.  Spivack is the CEO of a search startup. It stands to reason that he would have meetings with Google and and other big search engines about lots of things, ranging from licensing his semantic search technology to an outright sale.  The one thing it is pretty safe to conclude is that both Google and Bing are very interested in semantic search.  Bing seems to be further along than Google, as the launch of recipe search indicates.
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 22 Jan 10
     
    and here's the future.
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  • François Dongier on 22 Jan 10
     
    By 'here', you mean Diigo??
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 22 Jan 10
     
    Twine's future for what it's worth
  • Jack Logan on 22 Jan 10
     
    This has been T1/T2's future from the beginning.
  • Kurt Laitner on 23 Jan 10
     
    and the future of search engines is apparently recipes.. who knew?
  • Jack Logan on 23 Jan 10
     
    And mostly fascinated with chicken recipes ... I'm overcome.
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 23 Jan 10
     
    either that or baseball video games.
  • Jack Logan on 23 Jan 10
     
    ah ha ...
Kurt Laitner

Liberationtech, How the Next Generation Diaspora* Should Be Built to Help High-Risk Act... - 0 views

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*YosemEduardoCompanys liberatontech *net diaspora Design

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  • design of information and communication technologies to foster freedom, democracy, human rights, development, and effective governance
  • it is important to differentiate between what activists do before a movement and what they do during a movement. 
  • This critical organizing task is done by a small group of people that need to be able to maintain strong ties to one another in a secure and private fashion if they are to succeed.
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  • private, secure, and distributed social network
  • facilitate the communication of a small group of people seeking to organize social change and subsequently enable them to broadcast that message through larger mainstream social networking sites
  • communication must be machine-to-machine
  • In other words, the sender and recipient must have an easy and fast means to install and manage the software on their machines
  •  Furthermore, the sender and the recipient must have the ability to stop using their machines and seamlessly use new ones, should the original machines be compromised for whatever reason by an authoritarian regime
  • “self-destruct mechanism”
  • the “right to forget” would have to be embedded
  • mobile
  • capability of synchronizing data on multiple machines simultaneously.
  • capability to access her data from the alternate location
  • connectivity
  • significant work on data compression will be required to ensure that the software’s performance remains nimble under such disparate conditions
  • Western society gives us two main legal-institutional vehicles for tackling the problem:  i) a for-profit firm a la limited liability company or C corporation; or ii) a non-profit firm a la private foundation or 501(c) organization.  (Another possibility is a hybrid for-profit/non-profit model a la WordPress or Mozilla, but let’s set that aside for now.)
  •  The resources come at a cost in terms of the organization having to perform in a reliable and accountable fashion relative to the expectations of its shareholders.  In the pursuit of profit, principle can easily be abandoned since, at the end of the day, all the shareholders care about is obtaining superior returns
  • Nevertheless, a non-profit organization is still owned by a small group of individuals,
  •  The project may even create disincentives for open-source involvement by creating restrictive intellectual property (IP) assignment contracts that require developers to give up all rights to the code they produce.
  • non-profit organization cannot sell shares
  •  Given this predicament, what are we to do to ensure that the organization is accountable to the activists it serves and can mobilize developers to contribute in an open-source manner to the project?  One possibility is the cooperative, a business organization owned and controlled democratically by its members for mutual benefit.
  • when correctly designed and executed
  • The developers can transfer their IP rights to the cooperative, knowing that such rights will not be exploited for financial gain without them.
  • Kurt Laitner on 02 Dec 11
     
    excellent article on how to build the next generation of infrastructure and what some key themes are.
Jack Logan

Jack D Logan Twines - Jack D. Logan Twines - 2 views

trumpet.sdsu.edu/Jack D Logan Twines/index.html

shared by Jack Logan on 15 Jan 10 - No Cached
  • Jack Logan on 15 Jan 10
     
    Remember these? Ha Ha However, we could use this to keep track of all of our stuff in Diigo and elsewhere.
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 15 Jan 10
     
    That's pretty cool. I like how the connection chain is dynamic as you click it. Lots of wasted real estate at the bottom however. It would be nice to get a preview of the selection instead of just a link. Man you connected a lot of stuff!!!
  • Jack Logan on 15 Jan 10
     
    This was a real early version. I'm working on a version with everything that I've done in Twine using this app that has more than 27k items to it. It's the one that Bent help me make a file with NSA. I'd really like to know if Twine will maintain the urls from T1 after going to T2. If I could get the Twine files into Diigo, I could do a bulk change, and recast the front end.
fishead ...*∞º˙

Evri Ties the Knot with Twine - Twine CEO Comments and Analysis « Nova Spivac... - 0 views

www.novaspivack.com/...evri-ties-the-knot-with-twine

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  • Evri Ties the Knot with Twine — Twine CEO Comments and Analysis March 11th, 2010  Share Today I am pleased to announce that my company, Radar Networks, and its flagship product, Twine, have been acquired by Evri. TechCrunch broke the story here. This acquisition consolidates the two leading providers of semantic discovery and search. It is also the culmination of my long and challenging venture to pioneer the adoption of the consumer Semantic Web.
  • At the time of beta launch and for almost six months after, Twine was still very much a work in progress. Fortunately our users and the press were fairly forgiving as we worked through evolving the GUI and feature set from what was initially just slightly better than an alpha site to the highly refined and graphical UI we have today. During these early days of Twine.com we were fortunate to have a devoted user-base and this became a thriving community of power-users who really helped us to refine the product and develop great content within it.
  • These losses meant we could no longer create compelling content or to manage the Twine community. So we put Twine.com on auto-pilot and let the traffic fall off. While painful to watch, this at least had the benefit of reducing the pressure to scale the system and support it under load, giving us time to focus all our energy on getting T2 finished and raising more funds.
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  • The Twine team is joining Evri to continue our work there. Twine.com’s data and users are safe and sound and will be transitioned into the Evri.com service over time. This process will be done in a manner that protects privacy and data, and is minimally disruptive. I have great faith in the team at Evri and believe they will handle this with great care and respect for the Twine community.
  • Twine was well-received by the press and early-adopter users.
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