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ty frederickson

Sam Harris on "How Science Can Answer Moral Questions" - 4 views

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    The idea of looking at moral values from a science perspective has truly been valuable to the world. It may have answered several questions on what is right and wrong, as from the beginning, we have always related morals with religion and culture, more like morals and values have come from religion mostly. This idea of moral value that have been derived from religion has always intrigued me, the idea of what is right and wrong in the perspective of religion always went against the idea of right and wrong from a science background. This has led me questioning my moral values that do not make sense in a developed society. I guess what I am trying to say here is that, morals that have been derived from religious perspective have always been constrained and inflexible with progress of the world and modern ideas whereas the morals from the science perspective are based on facts that are flexible with the development of the world. Like the example mentioned by Sam Harris about Muslim ladies wearing burkha in a hot weather does not make sense. Religion have a limited boundary which may not be crossed, they already know what's right and wrong like Sam Harris mentioned in his speech, the morals experts know everything, which does allow them to explore more in the world and what it has to offer. On the contrary, science continuously tests its boundaries and if people had followed the moral codes according to religion they most probably never would have found answers to so many questions especially in the area of science such cure to so many diseases. It also justifies the moral reasons we believe in. However, morals based on science perspective have liberated the world of any social and basic moral obligation to the world and its society. Where religion has kept people within the boundaries of moral obligation towards the society, science may have liberated them form any such obligations, cases such the rape, murder, terrorist attacks and bombing nuclear plant
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    The ideas presented by Sam Harris is the TED talk is quite intriguing, and the point that he had brought upon religion's role in today's views upon morality is surely true. To a large extent, the modern society's thinking contain remnants of religion's former dominance upon approaches to life and of morality. As in the case of the large Abrahamic religions that are rooted rooted in the world, their static nature almost hinders with relevant questions that are more relevant to be rectified today, as Harris pointed out, the question of gay marriage and to that of nuclear proliferation.Where in the lack of religion's preponderance in people's moral compass, staggeringly imminent issues that have a wider set of impact upon the world may undoubtedly be solved more efficiently through a wider popular agreement of its urgency and importance. Perhaps, a logical pathway to morality as is with science would offer a more pragmatic solution to the problem of determining moral dilemmas, or of weighing the importance of issues over others.
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    This TED talk was actually very interesting. He brought up the idea that science can be the ultimate guide to answering moral questions and that this could be more accurate than religion. To an extent this could be true but I do see some loopholes in this claim. Science can't take things into account such as - intuition, overall context of the situation and its possible impact on society, instinct or even extrasensory perception (information that is not acquired by the usual sensory perceptions but instead with the mind). And even if there is scope for science to gain hold of these aspects as well, such technology has yet to develop. He did give examples of faults he found in religion and spoke about how we shouldn't blindly rely on religious beliefs. For instance, he pointed out that Muslim women wear burkas even when the weather outside is hot but what he has failed to point out is that - why do these women do so? He has looked at this situation from a very narrow point of view. Not all woman are forced to wear the veils and some insist to wear it themselves. In France a few years ago, when the French had planned to ban the veils, there were large protests lead by Muslim women. This clearly shows that many of the women choose to wear the burka and have their logical reasoning for it. I agree with Palak, because of religion and it's teachings of morality some of our actions have been somewhat restrained. There is always some 'fear' element when we do something we aren't supposed to be doing. I am not so sure about other religions but in my religion for instance we have always been told that "God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent" But if all of a sudden we rely on science to answer our moral questions, our actions could become more liberal because of this lack of fear. Is this a good thing or a bad thing? I'm not so sure. To conclude, I'm not quite convinced whether science can answer all of our moral questions. Maybe because there are some aspects of m
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    I found the ideas presented in Sam Harris' TED talk extremely intriguing and thought-provoking. I was very captivated by his concept of moral-genius in the same fashion as it applies to genius in any other scientific subject area. I found that his ideas accurately applied to the real-world, where people's subjective opinions of morality, fueled by cultural stimulus, interfered with the goal of human well-being. This led me to wonder what the causes of such ideas and actions. I came up with a possible explanation for the phenomenon. Moral questions rely heavily on social aspects which is expected since our sense of morality is shaped by our interactions with our community and ourselves. When we talk of the subject of morality and what we perceive as morally right and morally wrong, we encounter several different distinct, morally correct answers to solve moral problems. There is a certain range of actions that we would distinguish as morally correct. In a scientific-based subject such as physics, as Harris discussed in his presentation, the answers to questions are concrete and precise. This is due to a lack of social interaction in order to achieve an answer, the range of correct answers which is present in moral questions is now eliminated. I believe that this is due to the fact that social interactions are not part of the journey to reach the answer. This allows physicists or people in general to dismiss incorrect answers to questions without hesitation, if an answer is incorrect, a clear demonstration of the faulty logic that caused the deduction of the incorrect answer may be explored. Morality however, may not be explored using the same procedure. People are afraid to point out the faultiness in the deduction of moral answers of other people because they do not want to dismiss the moral beliefs of other people in fear of insulting them by discounting their beliefs. I find this similar to what occurs in a subject such as English. English is also a subject which
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    I think that what Harris has presented is an interesting point of view, but I think that his viewpoint on moral topics are quite narrow minded, because of the fact if that morals are not determined through scientific concepts. I feel that when he continues to think about these topics he only considers the points of view out of practicality, instead of looking at peoples emotions and the morals that they have based them of off. Personally I believe that morals are based of not only religions, but also the community that people reside in, as often we base what we do on our surroundings, as we don't want to be ostracized by our community. For example, one of the theories Harris offers it to look at the idea of moral leaders just like we have leaders in religion, but I think that what he might fail to understand is that morality, is much more fluid and abstract than basic science, as there are many variables which differ at the same time. I think one of the main problems with having "moral leaders" might be the fact that they will not take the culture into consideration.
ty frederickson

The History of Our World in 18 Minutes - 6 views

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    Required Viewing for our ToK Unit on History as an AoK
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    I found this video to be fascinating and thought-provoking, as it opened my eyes to this perspective of viewing the history of our universe. After viewing this video, I would find it interesting to see if there is any correlation of time between the "Thresholds" and determine an estimate of the next threshold. However, based on the infographic displayed in the presentation, it seems like there is a high concentration of the thresholds at the beginning and present points of the universe. I also find it problematic to determine how such a threshold could be defined, as Christian himself said that he "considers" humanity as a threshold. This implies that there is no definite way to define such a threshold, which throws me off a bit as there is a lack of precise methodology in his selections. This video also made me consider what implications these thresholds have on the future. What kind of thresholds will be possible in the future? In retrospect, based on the previous threshold, I can't imagine a possible way that our universe could become more complex, however, taking into account the previous thresholds, I don't think that people at those times expected the way that agriculture and fossil fuels would have the effect that they did.
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    Perhaps what is most intriguing in the video is the idea of thresholds to signify significant developments in the universe as dictated by increased levels of complexity in contradiction of the law of entropy. The question of what may lie ahead of us, or the universe. Would it only envelope humanity, or would it apply to the universe as a whole - as an idea that may apply to any life form. The question that also arises from this video is that, if we do not have collective learning, is the idea of history nullified? Just because we do not have a recollection of an event, should it not be disregarded to having happened at all? The definition of history in this case, supposes the otherwise.
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    One of the aspects that stood out to me during David Christian's "The history of our world in 18 minutes" is the concept of multiple kinds of history. When studied on an academic level, modern history revolves around human interaction, economics and development. History before human existence is then very difficult to discuss, unless the discussion is from a scientific perspective. What I found so interesting about Christian's discussion is the suggestion that there is a history of the universe, of life on earth, of humanity, and of the self. I have never considered a person's individual experiences throughout their life as history; instead, I viewed collective events and experiences as history. In hindsight, I think that is a very utilitarian perspective towards history and is probably a result of how I have been taught history. I now think that history can either be science based and objective/subjective, social science based and subjective, or personal and subjective. However, I find it interesting that science based history is only partly objective. When we discussed science as an AoK, we seemed to agree that science was objective with a few exceptions here and there. However, when Christian discussed thresholds in the world's history, he did not clearly explain methodology in determining whether an event in history could be a threshold. The way Christian then went on to determine thresholds seemed to be subjective, leading me to think that even science based history could not be completely objective.
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    This TED talk was truly a different way of approaching history and exploring different perspective in 18 minutes. I particularly liked the egg analogy as it provided a better understanding of the way he approaches history of the universe . He uses the egg analogy to understand that the universe works from a step by step and structured to unstructured way and lack of order seen in both, in the our universe as well as the society. This particularly stood out for as it is thought-provoking statement which made look back into history and remember a few examples of it. I loved the idea of "thresholds", this is a very significant concept that I have never come to think about it prior to this video. Not only it could be applied to the science behind the history of the world but also to our personal lives and we could also see to some extent in our history., I agree with Amal on the point that history can now be perceived as being the science based as well and it truly interesting how it can be explained. throughout my life i have considered history as the study of historical events and its subsequent consequences. It had always revolved around the idea of war in different countries. However this video has truly broaden my perspective on the word "history". I really enjoyed the video and had too much to learn.
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    This was a very different and informative TED talk, more so than previous TED talks I have seen. The structure of the talk worked well to compliment the meaning and explanations of the ideas presented by David Christian. Moreover, the analogy with the video of the breaking and mixing of the 'egg' played in reverse to represent the opposite of the Law of Entropy was intriguing for me, and grabbed my attention. The ideas presented in the bulk of the talk discussing different historical 'Thresholds' was also an 'eye-opener' for me personally because I had never thought about history in this way. With this perspective on how 'History' can be applied as one of our Area of Knowledge's we can gain a complete different variety of concepts and see things in a very different perspective as let's say one of the pervious TED talks, showing us how mathematics can be integrated and used in history as well. I feel that these are two very different perspectives, not ones that we would normally find ourselves thinking about but because of this very reason, they are very beneficial to look at when gaining an insight of knowledge about history.
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    I watched David Christian video called "the history of our world in 18 minutes". I found the video fascinating as I still have trouble understanding how people managed to get all the information about events that happened 13.7 billion years ago. I liked the fact that the only reason we got to where we are today is because of unexpected events that occurred in the past. This could be seen from the asteroid hitting the earth which eliminated all the dinosaurs, and allowed further and more complex life to be created after the event. The unexpected events were also found in the small errors of DNA which allowed them to evolve and form something even more complex. It is obvious that these events could not have been predicted in the past as there were no signs of them occurring. For example, the dinosaurs did not have enough knowledge of the incoming asteroid and about the damage it would cause. However, as David Christian mentioned, humans are the only species that have collective learning. This means that we can build upon our knowledge and create history. This is also the only reason humans have been able to learn so much about the past events in detail, as the knowledge found by people has not been lost. People have been able to use the knowledge they have developed from past events to do many things such as predicting future events. The more we know about the past events, the more we will understand if similar events come up in the future. The thresholds were described from coming from unexpected events. However, with all the knowledge gained from past events, I think humans would be able to make these events seem less unexpected. For example, if another asteroid were to hit the earth, humans would most likely be able to find out much more information about it, such as when it will hit and what the consequences of this event will be. This doesn't mean that they will be able to control the situation and prevent it, but I do think humans have a larger ability
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    After watching this video, the first thing that came to my mind was, "wooooow". I really liked the way Mr. David Christian had explained his thoughts and ideas. His analogy of the egg being mush and our complexity being similar was clear in his context. It all also made sense to me about the difference between humans and other species since we have language and a different degree of collective learning. Overall, the video was very instructive, explanatory and very well constructed. That's why even though it seemed to be very confusing and had a sort of overload of information, the way it was represented made it easier for the audience to comprehend. That's why I got the chance to really understand and think about his ideas in depth. The way he studied history and explained it to the audience was most entertaining and educational in my opinion. The reason I think this is because he took a different approach to history. Usually when people refer to history it's focused on human history and what we had done as species. But his approach is very scientifically based and focused which made it more factual which in affect made it make more sense to me. I understood what he meant about the complexity of the world being the base of it's development although I didn't completely understand it.
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    The most intriguing idea I took from this video was the first concept presented by David Christian - the idea that the general tendency in the universe is for things to go from order to lack of order and entropy. Although he does present this idea in the context of physics through the second law of thermodynamics, I find this a little confusing personally because if I were to think in terms of, say, particle physics, the general tendency is for particles to decay from a high energy state to a low energy state; this could be interpreted as things going from lack of order, to order, contrary to what Christian introduces in his TED talk (do correct me if I'm wrong). However, I do see the error in my thought processing as I realise that if I were to look at things in the context of scientific history, single-cell organisms evolved into multiple-cell organisms, which then developed tissues and organs and so on and so forth. From this perspective, I completely understand the tendency of "mush" going to complexity. Hence, I am a little perplexed at this first premise of the video. I found the Goldilocks condition to be intriguing as well as we see this happen often if we were to look at it in terms of science. For instance, an electronic transition can only occur if you transfer the exact amount of energy to an electron, or the activation energy required for a chemical reaction to occur (you may have noticed my trend to look at things in terms of science). If the model of the universe follows these Goldilocks condition, would it ever be possible to predict the next "threshold" of development? This comes back to the Positivist school of history: the idea that we are able to predict future events based on patterns derived from the past course of history. However, as we established today in class, history may not exactly be predictable, due to inconsistencies and irrationalities of the human mind. Then again, factoring out mankind and its tendency to be illogical
Shubham Parashar

Assignment! - 51 views

Keep Your Head - Article Response Of what value are emotions in the learning process? Emotions affect the way we interpret a lot of things and the way take information into account. However essenti...

ty frederickson

Rationalism Vs Empiricism - 3 views

Rationalism vs. Empiricism Although this is an overly simple generalisation, there are essentially two major schools of thought or theories about how we know things. If you study Philosophy at uni...

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Amal Waqar

Just thinking - 44 views

Beautifully put Ash, happiness really is in acceptance. Back to Dzaf's point, I think we can think in different ways, but are at risk at getting lost in the ideas we try to create. Madness, psychos...

Ash Maher

Resistance is Futile - 28 views

After much thought I think I have processed this and have to say. You know what I think the issue is with "can or can we not make a difference" is. Its because we are so aimed at finding an answe...

ty frederickson

The Biological Basis of Morality - 98.04 | Diigo - 9 views

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    I would like to start this response by stating my initial thoughts on the topic of the article and the author himself. When I first looked at it I thought of the fact that I find applied psychology rather hilarious, as I find it not only inconsistent, but also scientifically unjustified and rather subjective. Furthermore, upon reading that the author was a born again Christian, I got the feeling that he was trying to justify religion and try to make it a scientific concept, when I believe it is not. However, I must admit that both of these thoughts, in reflection are logically unsound, as they show the "ad hominem" fallacy. Therefore I will discuss the importance of this article in a more justified way, by approaching the argument itself and not the writer of the argument. I will approach my response from the central question: "To what degree is morality subjective or objective?" First of all, I would like to highlight that the dichotomy between subjectivity-objectivity and empiricism-transcendentalism is that the two are connected on which sources of morals they identify; with subjective-empiricist morals being derived from each individuals' perspectives and objective-transcendentalist morals derived from the idea that morals are universal construct, waiting to be found. I would like to define morals as the rules by which one believes they can lead a just life. Objective morals are defined as morals which disregard the idea of them being constructed by an individual and therefore can be upheld universally, and subjective morals are defined as morals which can only be upheld by an individual. I feel that this article creates a false dichotomy for me, as I do not think that morals are simply ideas which can be followed empirically or transcendentally, but rather that they are ideas which have far more complex origins. As the article looks at societal morals and the way that human interaction encourages certain moral beliefs, I would like to highlight the fact
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    To start, I do not consider myself a religious person, nor do I consider myself a particularly spiritual one either. I've only lived a few short years and cannot really determine or even express my religious/spiritual beliefs and/or to what extent I am invested in these beliefs. I do know, however, that when I read this article I couldn't help but agree with the basic principles and values of transcendentalism (to my surprise and slight consternation). According to what I knew of transcendentalism (picture Walden-esque scenarios and Thoreau's argument from which unfortunately stems superficial 'appeal to nature' arguments) this 'realization' did not sit well with me. On further reflection and reading of my edition of The Philosophy Book, I think perhaps due to some superficial discussions I've had regarding transcendentalism, I disregarded this belief as having little to no merit. I believe this to be an example of 'the fallacy fallacy' or 'argument from fallacy'. So, to correct my earlier statement, I agree with the philosophical movement of transcendentalism as described by Mr. Edward O. Wilson. At first glance, transcendentalism suggests a universal set of rules and rights that everyone should uphold. This is the idea that I subscribe to, although further exploration into transcendentalism proves to be problematic to me. For example, I do believe that there are universal rights and wrongs, but who determines these rights and wrongs? And who am I to know if my concept of universal rights and wrongs are truly right or wrong? This of course 'muddies the waters', and although we discussed this in class on several occasions I cannot help but continue to be frustrated by this. Wilson continues on to discuss the 'evolution of morality'. I find this both intriguing and problematic. Through studying IB Biology, I've learned that traits and characteristics in any individual are passed down from parent to offspring if the parent is successful enough to survive
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    (continued from above) to reproduce. This would then apply to early human individuals and morality as individuals who expressed cooperation and 'morality' would survive to pass their genes on. I took this statement to suggest that every human alive today would somehow be a culmination of years of evolutionary biology, producing us as the 'most moral' to date. However, over time civilizations would develop and humanity would move from its hunter-gatherer phase to its agricultural phase. It seems to me that given this drastic change in living conditions, Darwin's 'survival of the fittest' ideology would not apply as much to these people as it would have to Wilson's Paleolithic hunters. This change would provide opportunities for mutations to occur and be passed down, therefore altering our 'biological moral compass'. Not only would this change in living conditions alter social ethical codes but, following in form with Wilson's suggestion of the inheritance of morals, change our biological morals as well. Instead of the 'most moral' surviving, the survivors (and therefore our predecessors) would be the individuals who managed to appear the most moral or hold the most power, regardless of actually being the most moral.
ty frederickson

The Mathematics of History - 10 views

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    The idea presented here is very interesting, increasing the depths of historical analysis through digital statistics and other forms of measurement. This provides a different dimension to studying history, as normally it revolves around studying various human factors before and after an event, the possible advent of math incorporated in the subject would enable a new and greater understanding of a particular time period, while also allowing for future speculation of events that could lead to prevention of potentially negative ones. The only problem with this talk is it is short and leaves the viewer with unanswered doubts (intentional?), such as how can one be certain that algorithms based on the past where circumstances were entirely different are reliable for predicting future events?
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    I watched the video of the presentation "The Mathematics of History" by Jean-Baptiste Michel. I found his efforts in trying to explain parts of history using mathematics very interesting. Although I agree that historical events can often be explained by logic and relations, I feel Mr. Michel is pushing it too far by claiming that mathematics can be used to measure and explain historical forces and as a consequence potentially even be used to predict the future. Let me show what I mean by focusing on his example of frequency of wars versus number of casualties. Mr. Michel showed in his presentation that there was a logarithmic relationship between the number of wars during the last two centuries and the number of casualties in these wars. More specifically, he argued that taking the number of wars with a certain number of casualties (e.g. 1K-10K), the number of wars that were 100 times deadlier (e.g. 100K-1M), were 10 times smaller. Obviously it is difficult to argue against the fact that there is an inverse relationship between the number of casualties during a war, and the number of wars of that magnitude. After all, the vast majority of inter-state wars are relatively small in terms of casualties, and a major war like the World War II only happens once or only a few times throughout history. However, I would claim that the mathematical relation shown by Mr. Michel is more of a "snapshot" than a universal rule. Had he for instance looked at the last four centuries, rather than the last two, I am pretty sure that the mathematical relation would have been a different one, as the number of smaller conflicts would have increased, but no other major conflict like the World War II would have happened during this period. As a result, the "100 to 10" formula argued by Mr. Michel would no longer be correct. In my view the number of casualties in a war and the frequency of wars of different magnitudes are driven by a number of various parameters, and cannot
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    The ideas that Jean-Baptiste Michel presented are quite troubling and inaccurate. The aim on his presentation was to open the viewer's eyes to the mathematics of history, but the body of his presentation, in my opinion, did not work towards the effect of his aim. The example that he presented about the wars in the previous two centuries displaying a mathematical relationship that may be graphed does not necessarily display that mathematics plays an important role in gaining insight into history. This is a simple compilation of statistics, displayed on a graph, not an in-depth analysis of a historical event. What he is doing is narrowing down "History" to a set of numbers: Dates and casualties, which he portrays using mathematics but does not go to the lengths of what I would consider historical knowledge. This is merely a trend of occurrences, similar graphs could be drawn about the increasing population of cockroaches, but that wouldn't make it "Historical knowledge". This TED talk has not influenced my perspective that, although math may play a minor role in some aspects of history, the essence of history: the understanding of people, nations and events in the past remain an area which is alien to math. It is not as if this is a major disadvantage or problem, I believe that it is fairly normal for such a complex subject, which is heavily influenced by the interactions, beliefs and emotions of humans remains largely untouched by the rigid logic of mathematics.
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    After watching the TED talk, 'The Mathematics of History' by Jean-Baptiste Michel I was left quite astonished. Before this video, I hadn't ever thought in-depth about how mathematics could be used in history, to agree with what Azat has stated above, it's almost "alien" to the subject since history is about the past, and is affected by humans and their actions, whereas mathematics deals with numbers and numerical reasoning. To expand on this thought and in agreement with Michel, one of the core elements of mathematics is finding patterns in numbers, and this does indeed relate to history insofar that finding patterns in history is helpful as it might help us predict future human actions in a very vague way. This relationship gave me a new perspective on the topic as again, I had never thought about it in this way. However, I am of the opinion that Michel's presentation was extremely short and could have benefited if he expanded further, explained further and also gave us more examples. I say this because as a viewer and listener, I am very interested in this discussion as it's a new perspective for me, and listening to someone with greater knowledge about history and historical events explore deeper into it would be very interesting. I feel that Michel just gives us a small opening into this topic, and I would be very interested to see how far we could go with correlating mathematics to history in order to vaguely predict the future.
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    First of all, I would like to say that the main idea from this ted video is very interesting, how bringing math and historical events closer in order to understand human behavior and explain it in a logical and mathematical manner. One of the most interesting about this video was his explanation on the statistics on the number of casualties and the duration of the war and how it reflects on human behavior of perceiving quantities. However, he did not consider other factors that correlates in each war. Each war would have different factor that will explain the size of the war's causalities that I think will make his explanation on the statistic to be different. I had another problem when I was watching the video. The first formula he showed about the change in irregular verbs to regular verb was confusing. He did not explain it with an example to give a better clarity to his audience and this made me think that he is just putting an equation just to show there is a relationship between math and change in human behavior. It did not give me the certainty that it will work for each irregular verb as it has lack of explanation. Despite the lack of clarity in his formula, maybe it does work since based on his biography, he is an credible person. Despite of the few problems I had when watching the video, his idea is still valid and can be more relevant in the future when most things will become digitalize.
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    The presentation by Jean-Baptiste Michel sheds a new light on the issue of the role of mathematics in history. While the majority of people willingly cling on to their preconceived notion that mathematics is of no value in terms of historical knowledge, Michel argues that mathematics can be used to enhance our understanding of the past. Two support his argument, Michel even provides two examples of the application of mathematics to history. In my personal opinion, while the examples provided by Michel did demonstrate the role of mathematics in history, they did not show its importance. Sure, we now know that history is quantifiable but what Michel does not tell us is how quantifying history improves our understanding of it or why it is useful in terms of historical knowledge. So it follows that the importance of mathematics in historical knowledge is yet to be demonstrated. To put it simply, I still can't imagine history students performing calculations on their calculators in order to 'learn' history.
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    This TED talk gives a whole new perspective on hoe math can is not a only a logical subject but also a subject that helps understand other things like nature or culture. Obviously, I knew that math is a vital subject in our education and would help s understand other things but thins video shows why and how it is important. I agree with Baquar on how people think math has absolutely no value unless you are doing something in your carrier like engineering. I may be repeating myself here, I am intrigued by how math has different roles in one's life, in history, in culture. but as Naquib mentioned that math does show the importance of a war, at least its a start of a new Math language that will improve our understanding of everything, I realize that it is a long process and has many flaws but its a start. I have always hated math but if math is going be like I would be really interested in learning and understanding our environment.
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    I always thought that Mathematics was about numbers and equations put together to result in something concrete. However, after watching the TED talk video, it opened me to a whole new perspective. The idea of calculating history using mathematics is fascinating. Whats even more fascinating is how a formula was created to do so. This broadened my knowledge and perspective on what Mathematics actually was. If we can use Maths to understand history, we can also use Maths to calculate and understand things in the future. Not only that, but we can use maths to understand other aspects of our lives. This itself is very interesting to me and quite cool. I agree with Dylan, the video was relatively short compared to how gripping it was. If the video was longer, and if he provided more examples it would help me better understand the variety in what Maths can be used to understand other things.
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    I found this video very interesting. Combining history and mathematics is something I've never heard of before. Yes, it does bring a whole bunch of possibilities in the way we can perceive history but I don't find his examples that convincing. I feel like we need to explore this aspect in much more depth to conclude that mathematics does in fact play a role in understanding history. Another point I'd like to make is that, what if we do assume for now that mathematics is an integral part of history- so what? What are the advantages/disadvantages of perceiving history in this way? Do we 'understand' the past better by involving mathematics? Wouldn't understanding the past now become more objective than subjective( does this make history more accurate)? I'm still very interested in exploring more examples of mathematics in history but I do feel that this may bring in some disadvantages in the learning of history. To conclude, Jean-Baptiste Michel has indeed opened up a whole new perspective in the field of history but it is too early to be fully aware of the importance and consequences of this sort of thinking.
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    Jean Baptiste Michel comments on the human ability to "perceive quantities" (2:30, the mathematics of history), he goes on to explain his point with this analogy; committing 10,000 soldiers to a battle in which already 1,000 soldiers have been committed previously, is relatively an enormous quantity of soldiers to the war. On the other hand, committing 10,000 soldiers to a battle in which already 100,000 soldiers have been previously committed is a relatively low quantity in terms of war. I found this to be interesting, in how our mathematical process affects our perception of history. War is a prominent fixture in human history, while death is a way in which people can relate to history, mathematics plays a prominent part in understanding and quantifying an emotional response from an individual. Michel states to the that large numbers of casualties in war's are proportional to the relative stakes, so therefore the larger the number of casualties, mathematically could have less emotional impact to an individual. This is becomes an issue when studying war's and conflicts in our history. While we inherently bring greater importance to events in which many casualties occurred yet are unable to emotionally connect due to our mathematical and statistical reasoning and perception.
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    I really liked this TED Talk because it looked at history in a way that I never thought would be possible - through mathematics. I found it interesting that humans behave in systematic, mathematical ways, even though we don't think we do. Natural sciences such as physics and chemistry all have some mathematical bases or phenomena that can be explained in terms of maths. Social sciences, such as economics, history and psychology are rarely ever explained in terms of mathematics. It seems illogical to think that humans behave in a systematic manner. However, I think that if this idea of mathematics being a part of history becomes popularized, this could help us in many ways. In the beginning, we would be able to understand the patterns in history, we'd be able to understand part of the human thinking process, such as the perception of quantities and how it affects our decisions, as Jean-Baptiste Michel said. Later on, however, we would be able to predict the future and possibly prevent unfavourable outcomes. I think the systematic way of looking at history may be a big step for humanity. (Although, it may cause us to act like robots, which may lead to other implications.)
rahul datta

Response to The Biological Basis of Morality - 7 views

This article explored two ideas surrounding the origins of morality, a discussion that turned out to be extremely convoluted. I think I lean towards the empiricist view on morality, simply because ...

Morality

started by rahul datta on 11 Sep 13 no follow-up yet
Mikaela Solberg

Michael Sandel: Justice (Response) - 24 views

I'd like to focus on the second half of this video, where utilitarianism was discussed in depth with the background example of the cannibalism case of four English sailors in the 19th century. Ut...

philosophy Consequentialism Morality

ty frederickson

What Makes Us Moral | Diigo - 8 views

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    Situation based on Heinz dilemma: There has been a shoot out at a college and there has been several severe injuries. The closest emergency hospital is full: all the OR are full, the emergency room and they had to convert that room into an OR. All the doctors are working on every patients. There are still several patients that are coming in the ER and there is no room left. The police and the doctors find out that the doctors in OR 1 are performing a heart surgery on the shooter. What should the doctors do? Should they continue or leave him to help other patients? There several patients who need surgeries and that OR could be used to save them. What is the moral thing to do?
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    Reading through this article, I could only wonder one thing - who exactly establishes these moral expectations? According to Jeffrey Kluger, each group of individuals possess their own set of "oughts", or a set of rules and regulations that the groups follow; this characteristic was proven in a group of apes, also demonstrated in communities of human beings. In such groups of individuals, who sets the moral values? How do we know whether they are the 'right' set of morals values to follow? For example, as Kluger claims, the general rule for helping people is to help those close to home, yet ignore those far away. Is this morally justifiable? This rule states the importance of helping those who are close to you, yet neglecting those who you can't see. Surely, a man suffering next to you is equally as needy someone suffering in say, another country. Taking a utilitarian approach, we should be helping as many people in need as possible, whether on your street, or in a whole different continent. I realise that this is unrealistic: we cannot possibly hope to help every single suffering person in the world. Alas, how do we know who to help, and who to neglect? The subject of morality is based on such uneven ground that it is difficult to even establish what 'good' and 'bad' are, in terms of morality. What is good and bad may boil down to the neural activity in our amygdalae and our dorsolateral prefrontal cortices; but until we can express with confidence that the secret to morality may be within the most complicated organ of the body, we will not be able to wholly understand morality, what is 'right' and 'wrong', or even who decides what is 'right' or 'wrong'.
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    I think one of the more interesting ideas discussed by the Author was his meaning upon criminal courts. Since our morality ranges extensively from person to person what will happen within court cases. Are we all the same and deserve the same treatment when being prosecuted by the law? This question was raised by the Author. I believe Individuals suffering from clinical insanity and behavior issues deserve a different set of lighter punishments because of their inability to reason. However not all criminals are suffering from medical issues making a category for cold criminals. But the question that arose for me is; where is the line between being clinical insane and having an extreme side of morality? Are we one day going to be able to find the brain roots of serial murder before they actually do it? If so, is this a correct method of responding to criminal cases. With this technology or method will the police can arrest individuals even before they have committed a crime. But does having a serial murder characteristic actually make you a murderer? All these questions could one day become major topics in the world.
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    After reading this article, I came up with a question, "What if all the moral actions we know as a community is wrong and all the immoral actions is right?". Of course, if this was to happen, our community will be subjected to go chaos. We will end up breaking apart and losing the community itself. That is why a lot of us are often are influenced by morality gained from culture and religion. Though, one of the questions I have arrived from my statement, how do we know if our known moral values is the right one? As Jefrey Kluger said in the How We Stay Good section, people only follow the right morality establish by a group or community just to prevent them from banishment and also just to get food. In a community, something is immoral when it affects other people like the example given in the article where a group of chimpanzees in a zoo is only given food when all the chimpanzees are present, but two were not present and this affects the whole group and made their change of mood to surly. Thus, in a group we have specific moral values to benefit people and ourselves. But then, what if we come across a moral dilemma, such as the Runaway trolley, where we have to sacrifice one person for the benefit of saving five other people. Then, how do we know which moral values to consider? Then, of course a lot of us will consider the utilitarian approach and say there is more good done than harm. But killing a person is considered immoral, but it is moral when saving other people's life. People's life has become objects where one life is equals to another.
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    Reading through these responses, I notice a trend towards the hypothetical what ifs that often dominant ethical discussions and applications. While I genuinely applaud this tendency and feel it generally reflects a healthy, developing mind capable of critical thought and reflection, I also fear an intellectual quagmire that results in a great deal of philosophical musing and little actual action. Some of you raise relevant points situated in actual ethical schools, and this is good to see as well. Finally, I am comfortable with the argument that morality is as much a projection of human thought as it is an inherent characteristic of an action, (is an act within itself moral or immoral, or is the perception of the act what deems it so?) but that does not seem to resolve our need for a behavioral compass. The beauty of this potential conflict is that how we come to know of the inherent value of an act is equally important to the value itself.
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    "Sometimes we can't help it, as when we're suffering from clinical insanity and behavior slips the grip of reason." Above is a quote taken from the article 'What Makes Us Moral' by Tiffany Sharples and Alexandra Silver, in my response I would like to discuss this idea and give my own opinions and thoughts. I would like to start off explaining a little about my background because I feel it's relevant to this response due to my own bias. For a majority of my childhood (up the age of about 10) I grew up in South Africa and I was exposed to crimes which include murder, rape and theft on a daily basis. In South Africa it is common, if not an 'unspoken mandatory commodity' in all houses to have full alarm systems for all doors and windows, sometimes guard dogs, big gates and fences on top of walls to make it even more difficult to enter, and sometimes even electrical fencing around your property. With that said, and all of these security measures, the crime rate is still extremely high. This made me, personally very scared of crime and extremely against any idea that people who commit murder, rape or theft getting a 'lighter' sentence for prison time, I believe for premeditated murder or rape, death penalty should be given and for theft, a very large prison sentence. The article I have mentioned above brings up a very interesting point about what if the criminal has a mental disability or is doing these crimes without their reason in place. This really made me question one of my most moral thoughts about server punishment for criminals, more so than is given in some countries. To what extent is it justifiable for people with a mental disability to get a less severe punishment? After contemplating for a while, my opinion on this would be that even if they have a mental disability, if one was to sentence a less severe punishment, what would stop that person from doing this punishment again? I feel the conclusion to this is very situational. If a ment
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    What interests me most about this article is the author's discussion of the use of morality in court cases. Since the court requires a severe disability to exempt criminals from the normal punishment, it is safe to say that those courts think that everyone without a severe disability has the same moral compass. However this may not be the case and like Aleks points out, our sense of morality can differ extensively from that of others. There were clear examples of this in the article; the outrage among the delinquents upon discovering that two of the other delinquents in the treatment center had mugged an old lady. Clearly there was a difference in the sense of morality between the two who mugged the old lady and the others who were outraged. My favorite example of this differing sense of morality though comes in the form of the trolley dilemma discussed in the article. While 85% of people said they would not push a man in front of a train to save the lives of five other people, 15% of people said they would push the man. So clearly there's a differing sense of morality between people. And this brings me to my point; the use of morality in courts. Would you punish someone for not saving the lives of five others at the expense of one? Or would you punish someone for pushing one man in front of train to save five others? If the statistics collected in the survey represented judges and juries then you would have an 85% chance of being found not guilty in court if you did not push the man, and you would have a 15% chance of being found guilty if you didn't push the man. Clearly there is an inconsistency, so is morality an exact enough science to be used in court cases?
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    Honestly morality is such a vast principle. We all might share the same connotation on what morality is, but at the same time it might differ. This is because we have all belong to different cultural backgrounds and when we make a decision about whether it's morally acceptable/appropriate or inappropriate, those factors influence our decision. As aleks and baqar mentioned, the sense of morality differs within people. In my culture, some people might think love marriages are immoral and go against cultural values. I've inherited the same cultural background and values but my sense of morality has been influenced by other cultures. Therefore, i think love marriages are definitely moral. Like discussed earlier, who really decides what's morally right? Will there ever be a mutual sense of morality? Referring to one of the principles mentioned in the article, Altruism. I could relate it to one of the quotes i strongly believe in. 'As you sow so shall you reap' - stated in the Bible.
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    The article i decided to reflect on is "What Makes Us Moral" because I interestingly realized that the article made me raise more questions than give me answers, that exactly makes us moral. The article explores two kinds of people, which are basically the bad and the good, and tried to link up morality to the actions of certain people. Sometimes morality plays a big part in a person's life and towards what actions they may commit, but sometimes, a person's badness or goodness, can over shadow universal morality. Examples were given at the bottom of page 30 and 31, which both famous and infamous people who have acted and changed the world, whether it was positively or destructively. In the article, there was a very interesting observation made about an example of a child at school. The example was about how the child would react to him having to obey the rule of not eating in class, and of him listening to his teacher if she told him to push another student off his chair. This shows that morality is part of everyone's school of thought, and then determines the actions one will decided to make. Unless someone decides they want to be bad, and want to hurt other people, morality overshadows any kind of bad though, just like the teacher's request of pushing another child of his chair made made the student hesitate, and realize that he had no valid reason to do that, but his teacher's demand. Most people's intentions are good because we all feel like we have a certain standard to live up to, and a limit of a particular behaviour we owe to each other and the people around us. On the other hand, there are always people who aren't as stable, people who suffer from clinical sanity for example, as stated under the section of "Why We Turn Bad". Where morality comes from is still to be researched and understood, because there was never a rule book or "morality" book made in order to mentor the human society, but that hasn't stopped the vast majority of people having common thou
ty frederickson

Reasons for Reason - 5 views

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    My challenge to the other commenters-tell me why I must believe the truth. To be frank, although I think this was a nice piece that summed up skepticism in a nutshell, it really does not give me something I think I want- why I must believe the truth? It sounds like a logical fallacy of some sort, and maybe in the cold logic that our society follows it is a paradox, but that is the glaring question that I got out of this blog. To believe something and for it to be true is what constitutes knowledge, but why must I attain knowledge? Will it help me- obviously not according to the skeptics, as the truth of something is not something I can really determine on a large scale. We all like to think we're Heck, I could write a long essay on this and not produce a good answer to my question and that is my challenge to the other commenters-tell me why I must believe the truth. Truth is something we debate endlessly, but what is its value? Can I truly know something, if so then does that mean I understand it? I seriously doubt it, and that is because our definition of understanding is too narrow to constitute what I believe understanding is. I don't think I understand anything in its true form (a cave reference haha) and therefore I don't think I know anything but I do know that if I say "I don't know anything" I am saying a paradox as I know that I don't know anything. The real challenge is realizing how little I know, and figuring out what I do know Hope you guys can scratch out what I was trying to say in that mess.
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    While I understand everything (not in it's entirety ;) ) and have many thoughts to share, I struggle with putting these thoughts into words, so bear with me! ☺ Hareth, I'm incredibly excited by the notion you put forward regarding our extent of knowing. If we don't understand anything in it's entirety (which I believe, too) then we don't know much, do we? If we said we knew nothing, we would know that, so like you said it would be a paradox. I find it fascinating. I'm consistently reminded of a scene from this book I'm reading (or attempting to read!) called Invitation to a Beheading. In the text there's a reference to an extremely talented violinist who plays on a street corner. He plays this incredibly beautiful piece, but no one is there to hear it. Did it actually happen? He played the piece so it would be a truth, but if no one is there to appreciate it, does it lose its integrity? Does a truth lose its value if it's not immediately recognized as being a truth? As for why you should believe the truth, Hareth, I think beliefs make up a person. If we believe in nothing then what are we? It doesn't matter what you believe, but I think beliefs are the driving force behind people, they give us something to fight for and nurture. It gives us our 'humanity' if you will.
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    Hmm this is a tough one, nevertheless tally ho. What I obtained from the article is that not what we believe in is important but as long as we can reinforce it. This to me is the epitome of the way life is right now. From international politics to marketing a brand, it's all what one believes in and how they can reaffirm it to either themselves or others. But what I ask is how can it be that our views stand on the same equal foundation yet we can still argue amongst each other? If they were on the same level then surely we would be capable of seeing that we each have our own faults and success? If we deem ourselves as smart as we seem how come we haven't recognized this fact and mobilized onto it? In the article it states the need for a civil common currency in order to exist with different ideas. Yet as we can see in our world today that isn't working out as nicely. Perhaps the individual is more influential then we really presume.
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    Overall as Hareth mentioned this Article was good however I believe that the width the author chose to explain this topic was simply to narrow. The writer does a good job connecting the idea between scientific creationism and religious creationism and explains their issues within themselves that seem to be quite vital. However the author talking about the "skeptical challenge" raised some questions within my mind as how can something so vital for proving debate points, not only the creationism issue, but within political means go on within a spectrum of possibilities? Is this fair for societies? If we humans need to justify our epistemic principles from a common point of view because we need shared epistemic principles in order to even have a common point of view, wouldn't this mean that the religion is a book telling you how to follow a bunch of point of views the same with our science books? And why are we asking ourselves how the world was created? Shouldn't the real question be how did something come from nothing? Seriously how it is actually possible that all this came from nothing… it only breaks a few major laws in science.
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    Our strongest beliefs (truths) stem from our core epistemic principles; which are what tells us what is rational to believe. If a person believes that god created us, then his core epistemic principles is god, Christianity. His religion will tell him what is rational and what isn't, what to believe in and what contradicts his belief. He will view anyone who doubts his principle as irrational. It all comes down to the fact that no one can fully defend their most fundamental epistemic principles. Since we can't obviously prove out principles using the same method that we believe in, and we can't use another method because we would then have to validate this other method and we would just be going in a circular motion with no meaningful endpoint. Science is another core epistemic principle. It is taught by schools worldwide to millions of students every year. Science and religion cannot ever be compatible because the rationalisms of both are contradictory and sometimes paradoxical to the other. Did god create us? Or are we a product of natural evolution? Science is believed to be leading this battle, because through research and evidence collected would point it to be the more logical. Based on my core epistemic principles. I believe neither God nor Evolution explains how we came to be here, because there are so many unexplained variables that contradict both beliefs. For example if we are to entertain that we are product of Darwinism; then how come there is a huge gap in the evolutionary chain around 2 million years ago? In which after this period "primitive hominids appeared" out of nowhere…and also from a scientific standpoint, how can we really justify that the ancient Egyptians could build the pyramids without some divine intervention. I wont go into specifics but these points are large holes on both Darwinism and science. In terms of god, there is just no tangible evidence god exists. God is belief and belief has no meta
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    Hareth, I have thought a great deal about the question you proposed regarding whether or not knowing the truth is of any value. I certainly cannot convince you of the value in the pursuit, nor will I try; in fact, I offer that this search (or its value) is something that rarely can be instilled in another. You formulate an interesting hypothesis insofar that if discovering truth is unattainable, then "why bother?" Maybe a rejection of individual or societal purpose is the point. Uh oh. Now we have carved out another paradox. If rejection is the point and I reject the notion of finding a point, have I, in fact, found the point? When I was younger, I tended to believe that the purpose of life was undefinable (see without value) but not in a dark or macabre sort of way. I found this liberating actually and still do. This ideological subscription to a vast nothingness is at the heart of absurdism, and, as Camus tells us in the "rediscovery" of the Myth of Sisyphus, the moment we discover that the universe does not care about our needs, we find freedom. So, reject any sort of obligation to pursue the truth. Transcend the quagmire of philosophical "bleh" and embrace "life." Tell Socrates and his wrinkled old mantra "the unexamined life is not worth living" that the unexamined life is for amateurs. Wait, if you do that, aren't you actually examining life? Dang. Back to where we began.
Aishwarya Leen

Rationalism vs Empericism - 7 views

started by Aishwarya Leen on 18 Jan 13 no follow-up yet
ty frederickson

Brain Implants: Restoring Memory with a Microchip - 0 views

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    Hi ToKers, check this out. Do you sense any problems with this discovery?
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    This sounds pretty cool and so "high tech". But if all my memories are in a microchip, does that mean that I can erase those memories that I didn't really enjoy? Insert the microchip in my computer and easily monitor all my memories and erase the unwanted ones. That'll be insane and so "easy", meaning that memories kind of lose its meaning and its importance. When you think about it, schools will become unnecessary. I can probably extract all information needed for some particular exam to the microchip and insert it in my brain. Isn't that cheating though? and how will they limit the amount of information we put into our microchip?
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    If we can use "electronic devices" to manipulate how one remembers then does that not mean if we advance further in technology we will soon have the ability to control another human being? Or if anything could that mean we now potentially have the ability to implant another individuals memories or thoughts into another individual. Yeah maybe I'm thinking way to much down the lines of Terminator and Inception however judging by what the article is stating this no longer seems absurd. The possibility is there to do such actions if technology in this field advances, hey up here comes anew military weapon chaps! And to Yukiko's point I find her idea quite unnerving, the idea that by moving into such a direction could potentially open a door which would degrade the importance of human memory and its value is quite a depressing thought. Perhaps historically or even on personal levels what could this mean for us? Could we potentially store away memories during the years to which we cannot remember, like from birth to say the age of 4 and perhaps review them later on? Perhaps in doing so we may alter how our society thinks for better or worse. Interesting article I like it.
ty frederickson

Thelma Golden on How Art Gives Shape to Cultural Change - 4 views

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    Enjoy this engaging exploration into how art redefines culture. I think you will find this an interesting discussion on race and identity.
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    I really liked this video. I found it really interesting how Thelma Golden displays two examples by two artists (Leon Golub & Robert Colescott), One woman's perspective was that the picture by Robert Cole Scott portrayed how black people were represented and the picture on the right by Leon Golub portrayed the dignity that was needed. In addition, she assumed that the first picture was by a white artist, whereas the second one was by a black artist, when in reality it was the opposite. This also shows how an art work like this can be misinterpreted, thus leads us to wrong information. As a result, we base our judgements from our interpretation. This way we can also form perceptions of people from various cultures.
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    Considering the nature of the topic discussed, I feel that it is important to consider the definitions of the terms "African", "ethnicity" and "museum". The first term, to me in this video, seems to indicate people descended from sub-Saharan Africans, regardless of their actually cultural or political affinity to this area of the world. This leads onto defining the term "ethnicity", one which I feel has next to no scientific foundation, and rather is a relic of the era of colonization. For the sake of the reflection however, I will temporarily accept Thelma Golden's usage of the term for those who are descended from sub-Saharan Africans. Finally, a museum is a place where people can go to see exhibits of culturally and academically important pieces of human discovery or creation. In consideration of Thelma Golden's lecture, I feel that the issue of identity is a prominent theme throughout it, from the term "Black Masculinity" to the mentioning of the Harlem Renaissance. All of these factors tie in together to show what Golden wants to emphasize, which is that she believes that African-American culture is something that offers much to artists for discussion and for exhibition. This is an issue that matters a lot to me, as many parts of my life revolve around the issue of exploitation of human beings. Perhaps this is why I was drawn to making my extended essay on the Zanzibari revolution, as I felt that I had never investigated the idea of African nationalism and pride in history. In consideration of the issue of ethnic identity, my personal belief is that someone is a person before all other things, and that cultural, "ethnic" and other labels only serve to destroy the individual in society. I am not saying that I am unique, far from it, but I believe that one's art should identify with one's personal passions or with humanity as a whole, rather than with a specific, and often very loose-knit group. Overall, I feel that Thelma's presentation brought up an interesting
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    The video to me was quite interesting as it explores the art movement in the concerned ethnicity. Perhaps was seemed most curious to me was when Golden brought up the anecdote of the art pieces by Leon Golub and Robert Colescott. The presumptions made from the woman who judged the pieces strikes upon the notions of history and concurrent ethnic-specific views upon them. The fact that the woman assigned the ethnic identities and the attitudes that were supposedly portrayed in the pieces exemplifies the variability in the interpretation of art pieces. Without context, some things can be blatantly misinterpreted which certainly puts into question of other works of art in all forms and origin. If we always apply preconceived notions and ideas into the interpretation of art, is there a boundary to what we may still deem to be a valid interpretation? Certainly, in this case, such misinterpretations hinder the original intentions of the artists.
ty frederickson

Talking to No Purpose - 9 views

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    Does this mean that any form of complimenting or encouraging words we give are simply empty and without purpose? Does this mean that giving compliments are simply just a ritual in its entirety? Somehow I don't believe this as I like to believe that there are still genuine feelings expressed to one another in this materialistic world of ours. Perhaps this is my own interpretation but maybe the exchange of these so-called meaningless words are just to actually carry out a civil conversation. I can understand the author's perspective regarding the waiter aspect as when they ask about my food, I simply reply with a "It's delicious" or "Fine, thanks". I see this happen with my parents as well when they are so obviously displeased with their food. Before I proceed onto a tangent about food, one last point. From my perspective, these "empty, but necessary conversations" are just a method of showing proper etiquette as well, as it would simply be rude to ignore a "meaningless" question. Hopefully this comment serves of some purpose.
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    After reading this article, it seems that a lot of the compliments or questions we ask or give today are quite meaningless. Perhaps it's our duty to ask such questions like the reporter or the waiter incident, or perhaps we do it just to socialize. However I truly feel that not all compliments and questions we ask are meaningless; sometimes it's our obligation to ask or compliment however sometimes it is not and the compliment of question is full of meaning. Its really how you portray said comment or question, the attitude you have towards saying the compliment or asking a question determines the meaning behind it.
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    I disagree with the idea that we 'talk to no purpose' to some extent. We say all these 'meaningless' things like " hey how are you?" or "what's up?" while walking across the hall; you don't even need to stop to respond, but it's the acknowledgment that holds a purpose. The seemingly futile encouragements or compliments that we say on a daily basis do make a difference; they have the ability to boost another person's confidence or mood (which is why we have pep talks before games). Saying these 'pointless' comments shows that you took notice of that person or that you care about them. Sometimes even one small encouragement can instantly cheer someone up. Thus, although these comments we say on a daily basis may hold no meaning on the surface, but they have an effect on a deeper, more emotional level.
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    I understand what the author means by his interpretation of these exchanges as "empty". However, in my opinion, such "empty" exchanges are not necessarily as "empty" for the people voicing them. When a person, for example, wishes their friend "good luck" it may not only imply a sincere hope that his friend will do well in the given challenge, but also fills the hole in the persons mind which would have existed had he not wished his friend luck. A clearer explanation of this would be that if a friend of ours was sick and we did not wish them to get well, we feel as if we have acted inconsiderately by not providing our friend with the support to get over the illness, even if the friend does not consider your words as particularly beneficial. It fills a void inside us, makes us feel comfortable with ourselves, that we made an attempt to contribute to the well being of a friend. It may be perceived as a way for an individual to build character, or to reinforce the character that the particular individual exposes him/her to be. Therefore, I consider that although these exchanges may seem "empty" at a social level, they are completely opposite on the individual's inner-self, even on an emotional level. The question I would raise to the author would be: what exchanges would not be considered "empty"? How would social interaction change if such "empty" exchanges were deemed unnecessary by society?
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    This article brought up an interesting point! In our daily conversations, some of the words or phrases we often use don't have much meaning behind them, but they still come so naturally to us. We tend to say these words because society has influenced us to do so. We feel like its custom to say these words and if we don't then we aren't a part of society. Whether it's a concierge saying "Hope you liked your stay!" or a cashier saying "Thanks for shopping!" how often do they really mean it? Or are they just saying these empty words out of habit? However, words with meaning or without meaning still have an impact on us. If the concierge or the cashier hadn't said that then it wouldn't have the same impact on me and I wouldn't feel as delighted as to visit them again. Sometimes these words are necessary in our conversations even if they don't mean much to us. At times, it does make us feel better but we usually don't realize or even appreciate it. To conclude, although these words may be "empty" or "unnecessary" it does play a vital role in our daily conversations and we often fail to realize it.
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    Perhaps from the examples given in the article meaningless talking would seem to be, superficially, a frivolous endeavor as it achieves no effective impact or change that would provoke an immediate response or understanding - it's just pointless iteration of something we already know or tacitly understand. Is this all just a trivial speech etiquette or habit? I think, however that it's important for talks like this to be practiced and used on day to day basis: they provide a means of affirmation and sureness to what we say or hear. Additionally, "empty" talking in the form of compliments and greetings instills both short term and long terms effects. Compliments in the form of 'good job' or 'well done' gives a motivational and positive boost on the receiver, despite the fact that such statements would possibly not lead to any further discussion, it serves its purpose well and should be practiced. Along with greetings, they also perpetuate a sort of "friendliness" or positive relationship between people in the long run; a simple "hello" or "how are you" could make a person's day all the better.
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    This is quite interesting, however I don't really believe in it. I feel that we are looking at this in mostly forms of media. Some people don't really want to hear the questions and answers of the person they admire or watch on TV; they just literally want to see the person talk. For example when celebrities get interviewed on the red carpet, we as an audience don't really care about the movie they're going to be starring in next but we just tend to look at them and their body language. I feel that the relation this article is trying to make towards sports stars and celebrities might be different because of how we view them. I watch interviews on the red carpet just to look at my favorite celebrities, see how they respond to questions, and then immediately move on. However when it comes to people it might be a different story. I think that, often when we say things like 'good morning" or 'drive well' we actually mean it. However we tend not to stare at the person in the eye and have some sort of emotional bond with them while we tell them such things. Maybe we don't do that because it's more customary than anything, but then again me mean it. I also think that there is a difference in the way you pay complements to people. I feel that if you really would want to complement someone, you wouldn't tend to use something totally generic like 'you're cool!' or 'good job', but instead we would use phrases specific to what we like about that person, and I think that makes all the difference.
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    I think the writer of this article makes some valid points. It is true that all of us say things just for the sake of saying them. Often we ask questions we already know the answer to or we say things that we don't really mean, just to make conversation. However, the author seems to be making fun of the way people do this and so he undermines the importance of 'talking no purpose'. Personally I believe that this 'talk of no purpose' is quite important. It is this talk that allows us to interact with the people we don't already know and it is this talk that makes daily life more comfortable. Imagine a world without no- purpose talk; waiters that serve you and then stare at you instead of asking you how the food is or a half-time team talk in the locker room where the coach just stares at his players instead of saying obvious things like "Play better defense!" Or sitting next to someone on a bus in an uncomfortable silence just because you don't have anything purposeful to say to them. Wouldn't that be awkward? We must also consider the fact that some of the most important relationships in our lives may have started with 'talking no purpose'; Best friends, spouses, girlfriends, boyfriends etc.
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    Sorry for the late submission, I finally found the comment button :). I found this article very interesting and it made me think a lot about my daily life. I hear these meaningless phrases, which the article refers them to, numerous times every day and only now do I start to question the actual meaning behind these words. I agree with the article to an extent that it seems kind of pointless to ask certain questions if we already know the answers to them, however I disagree with the fact that they are meaningless. Some questions asked by people may come out of habit and maybe the answer doesn't actually interest them, however by asking the question it shows that the person has acknowledged another person which may affect them at a more emotional level. An example for this would probably be the most common expression used, "Hi, how are you?". How often does the person asking actually 'care' whether the person responds with 'good', 'okay' or 'alright'? However, to the other person it may give them a warm feeling because someone has recognized them and put in the effort to 'talk' to them. I think it's the same thing with comments made such as "good luck!", "great job!" and "nice try". I can relate to this very well when I'm playing sports, especially mentally challenging sports such as volleyball, because if I'm not completely focused, it becomes very difficult to play well. For example, if I go up for a hit and end up messing up by hitting the ball out, I would usually get very frustrated , put my head down and stop swinging at the ball. However, if my team mates make comments such as "keep trying", "nice try" or "better luck next time", it really helps to bring my confidence back up and I'll have the courage to go up and swing at another ball. These comments however may come naturally and without great meaning from my team mates, but to me they make a huge difference.
Amal Waqar

Bread for Palestine - Rana Bishara - 3 views

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    Is this art?
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    I think it is although it doesn't look like one of those "typical" art pieces. Things may be called art when the creator or the founder calls it art.
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    I cannot access this. Any ideas why? So far, not art!
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