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mackenzie richards

Myths vs. Truth | Building a Better Ohio - 4 views

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sb5 pros

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  • mackenzie richards on 15 Sep 11
     
    Pro sb5 myth vs. truth
  • Ryan Sabin on 04 Oct 11
     
    The proposals may be made into a way that sounds good, but they will only end up hurting everyone in the long run.
Holly Walter

Myths vs. Truth | Building a Better Ohio - 5 views

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SB5 Myths Truth

shared by Holly Walter on 15 Sep 11 - No Cached
  • now consume as much as 80 percent of local budgets
  • They enjoy the old system that gives union bosses – instead of you, the taxpayer – control of our schools and services
  • Employees would
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  • be asked to pay
  • share of their benefits
  • For health care coverage, they would pay at least 15% of their overall plan
  • pay less than 9%
  • currently
    • Britni Dunlap
      Britni Dunlap on 30 Sep 11
       
      How can they make teachers pay more towards their health care without raising the salaries? Salaries are being decreased but teachers are expected to pay more for benefits?
  • employees would be required to pay
  • share of a retirement plan
  • 10%),
  • Issue 2
  • affects government employees who pay less than 15 percent of their taxpayer-funded health care premium
  • The new law requires all government employees to pay at least 15 percent
  • pay an average of 31 percen
  • private sector workers
  • reform won't
  • impact state employees
  • Government employees will
  • still get
  • pension benefit – an annual
  • payment that averages their three highest annual salaries.
  • State Issue 2
  • ends a practice where some government union contracts require taxpayers to pick up the tab for
  • the employer AND employee shares of a required pension contribution.
  • Issue 2
  • says government employees should pay their required
  • share (10 percent) and taxpayers will contribute the employer share (14 percent).
  • ends the practice of handing out automatic pay raises
  • performance be added as a factor in teacher compensation
    • Britni Dunlap
      Britni Dunlap on 30 Sep 11
       
      I think the performance of a teacher should be taken into consideration instead of just the number of years teaching. I think a young teacher could be a better and more enthusiastic teacher than a teacher who has been teaching for 30 years. What do you think? Should teacher performance be added as a factor in teacher compensation?
  • Ohio's state and local tax burden ranks among the top third in the nation
  • Issue 2
  • expands that restriction to all state and local government employees
  • Holly Walter on 20 Sep 11
     
    Lists several myths about SB5, as well as the truth about them
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  • Britni Dunlap on 30 Sep 11
     
    I don't think it's right for teachers to have to pay and have their pay raises taken away. We say that education is so important so why would we pass a bill that treats teachers so poorly? Not only are teachers rights and freedom being taken away but also firefighters, police, etc. Why would we want to pass a bill like this that takes things away from our local "heroes?"
  • Holly Walter on 01 Oct 11
     
    Is 15% really that much to pay for health care coverage? And is this treating public employees unfairly? I'm not really sure that it's safe to say the treatment is poor. After all, teachers will still be allowed to teach their students. Maybe the important question to look at here is, what's the worth of education to the American society? What's the worth of public employees to the American society? Is this an issue of under appreciation, and if so, how can we possibly improve the population's view of public workers? I forget, many times, how dangerous the jobs of police and firefighters are. Before college, I never even valued or recognized the importance of teachers. Being taken for granted and under-appreciated cannot necessarily be connected to lower pay and benefits, though. I think teachers should still be expected, regardless of this situation, to give their students the greatest education that they possibly can. And if we're talking about heroes, think about superheroes: don't they all have alternative and hidden identities? Are they paid for what they do, or do they do it for the benefit of positive change? People need to make a living, but people need to live for each other, as well. And if you're still being recognized and paid for a position, isn't that what really matters?
  • Amanda Jerwers on 04 Oct 11
     
    Two views to this is that we are punishing teachers and local heroes, other say that the treatment isn't necessarily poor but rather just a different perspective.
  • Ryan Sabin on 04 Oct 11
     
    We are not punishing we are keeping them accountable just like any other job to make sure that they are doing the best they can and not just taking the benefits
  • Jaime Walker on 04 Oct 11
     
    Repo Man; What is being talked about here is how is it really "punishing" workers or is it just a different way than we are used to. It is also being said that the main thing is that you are paid and recognized for that job, whether it be a lower or high pay, a pay is a pay and you need it to survive.
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