deep background on preprocess

> Have any of you figured out how to turn off that elaborate toolbar
> If I can't figure out a way to make that toolbar go away, I'll have to turn Dilgo completely off

Don't have to turn it off, the whole point is you see the stickies and highlights when you visit a page without having to do anything! And you definitely want to be able to quickly open/close the sidebar.

Just hide the toolbar - native FF View>Toolbars

I use a Hide Toolbars icon in my single nav/menu/bookmarks toolbar (you use Tiny Menu don't you?) that has a quick dropdown to turn on and off any of the dozen or so extension-specific toolbars I've got.

I'm not sure, but I think it's part of "Toolbar Buttons" extension (I had to get an extension to manage my "customize toolbars" window, it's a full five scroll pages tall!)

Heather,

don't want to be a wet dishrag but IMO this should be posted to d.o.

1 I don't want people to be able to point to Diigo splintering/diluting discussion
2 you'll get better feedback there
3 the record of the discussion will be useful to people later on, all this will go away
4 this is higher-level topic than theming anyway

Basically I'd like to keep discussion on Diigo to specific categorization/placement of existing d.o. pages, and even those should be summarized and posted back as issues periodically if we can.

Substantive discussion about handbook pages (i.e. about the content itself) should also take place on d.o.

I like the topic and will respond over on the issues queue if you repost it there.


OK?

Looks like you're the Diigo veteran here, please have a look at the "getting started for Newbies" bits that Heather and I have written and see if they make sense.

Look forward you your help with docs in general - do you have a specific interest in helping reorganize the Theming handbook(s).

And hope you can make it to the IRC meeting tonight. . .

You can also add sticky notes in specific places on the page, and highlight specific text and then comment on it.

Both these alternatives have more visibility than the basic whole-page Bookmarks with comments, as you don't need to have the Diigo sidebar open, they appear in situ right on the page.

I would suggest a convention of all page comments to be posted via a floating sticky near the Title.

Instructions (thanks Heather!)

- I have my diigo toolbar installed and opened

- I browse to the theming handbook, and I will see pink highlighted words, where you've made comments

- I right click and I can add sticky notes. If I select text then right click, I can add a highlight and sticky note

- I can also bookmark

- I must make sure to select which group I am publishing to.

Anyone please feel free to create new Diigo HowTos here, copy-paste from here to make a new version. . .

Excellent, did you go to the D6 theming guide and check out the "Sticky notes?"

My idea is to come up with a set of standard tags for the group to use on shared Diigo spoor, so that we can work our way through the various nodes related to theming, get them classified and then use that to ensure a good single navigation hierarchy for Book to use.

I'm proceeding on the assumption we won't see robust use of tagging, or maybe even full consolidation of all the theming stuff into one Book anytime soon.

IMO this would allows a group to work without depending on d.o. leadership time and attention - a most limited resource it seems. . .

And the voluminous discussion won't clog up the issue queue or mailing list for those that aren't involved in the project.

Obviously, periodic summary updates would keep the larger team informed as to our direction so as to be able to give feedback or join in the effort if they become interested.

What do you think?

heather james wrote:
> it works!
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> all looks good!
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> Hans Henderson wrote:
> > Just for testing, reply to this let's see how it works

> a similar system we used in the late 90's. We could write sticky notes on any page and share it with our team. We were gutted when they shut it down.

ThirdVoice?

> Yes - I think it's brilliant. I'll have a look at your current sticky notes and see what's going on now.

Nothing going on much yet, we've got an IRC in a few hours hopefully we can get Addy on board with the idea.

Let's keep the actual group's bookmarks limited to D.O., referencing from those page comments with any external URLs.

> Could we start with the top level tag of drupal-docs or something like that? And then we free tag after that until we find other repetitive tags?

Just share the comments to the group, no need for that as a tag.

Obviously our own bookmarking system as individuals can have anything we like, e.g. I use Evernote.

But I hate to think about cleaning up freetagging on group comments once we get going on hundreds of pages, I think better to define a few standard vocabularies based on what we think is critical. But maybe I'm not getting how Diigo works, does each member's posting to the group show up as a separate bookmark? In which case we could come up with our own and then discuss merging them later. . .

Now that I think about it, we need to look for an online collaboration tool to help define the hierarchy, then use tags that point to locations within that. Just tagging by topic,

To give you an idea of some of the classification ideas discussed:

I know someone who's going to want "Conceptual vs Procedural vs Mixed-OK vs Mixed-split out" but he's not here yet. Target audience/user role, importance of topic, accuracy of version applicability, accuracy of content.

read-only, Addy posts announcements here

email me to let me know you've joined:

hans@pobox.com

Guideline - let's use this forum to only talk specifically about Diigo-related meta issues.

Otherwise let's talk in the issues queue or the mail list so everyone can see and comment.