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The expression for me is simple:  skin in the game.  I am absolutely enamored of 'packet kid': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3h5jcI-MFI

Terry, I love him too. I saw this a while back and was cheering him on. He is so exactly right.

Learned behavior, learned mindsets. Unlearning is the devil's own.

Reminded of my first attempts with zeegas--unclear, uncertain

And we learn in those uncomfortable moments, including how to create our own agency with technology. With Zeega, you've pushed the boundaries in many directions, Captain Zeega.

It's scary at first but once you get used to it, it's easier than F2F in my opinion.

I think I now find it easier than f2f too... That probably requires elaboration, though :) as I know it's not intuitive. I wonder if it is a phase everyone goes through to finally reach that comfort, or if it is just something some people are more disposed to enjoy/be comfortable with, while others not (like intro/extroversion)

with an online comment/post, there is no interruption, no direct contact to 'see' how others take what you say or do, and this can make it easier- or at least appear 'safer' on a personal front - esp. considering the teens Mimi was talking about... but, there is also a sense of permanence when people write and put something out there, whereas in f2f, what you say is gone in that moment. When something is written, people (potentially anyone) can come back to it, and this can be perceived as a threatening sort of exposure, perhaps even the person writing it might not want to have to see it again... so it is both easier and harder at the same time for different reasons for different people.

Schema. Or as max Stirner calls them,"wheels in the head".  Wheels in the head are any ideas that the mind cannot give up.  For example, I am not an artist/creator/maker,  I am a consumer.

How do we decide who's enthusiastic? What is being Net Savvy? The difference between introversion, extraversion and the level of ease a person finds in company of others for whatever reason. Are all modes of communications comfortable to everybody and why? On a personal note: I am not comfortable writing at all but I can talk for hours when it comes to f2f :)

I totally admire your English.  It's way better than my Egyptian. ;-)

I've experienced Maha's talking firsthand via phone and it's awesome :) But I like her writing too, even if she doesn't feel comfortable with it. So cool to have you here in Diigo Maha!

I'll graciously accept your kindness, both of you /curtsy (a WoW emote, if you're wondering) :) But seriously, I've had managers and even senior mangers who would sit very quietly, apparently (stress on apparently) reluctant to contribute to a conversation/discussion in a training situation. I used to catch myself making assumptions as to why (won't go into that here, too long) then see them fully engaged in an exercise where they had to sit on the floor and use Lego pieces. When I tried different approaches they did join A conversation, not necessarily mine, not necessarily with me watching, but they learned and contributed to the learning. hmmm now I'll start editing myself /lol so better stop and hit post. .

Yes, I have this problem all the time in the classroom where my expectations get in the way of reality. Trying more to be mindful of this blindspot in my teaching.

A good reminder that everyone has their own thresholds for navigating the flow in a "space" like #ccourses, and that even the most savvy will miss a whole lot of the interactions. That's OK.

This also raises one of the essential questions of connected learning:  what do we attend to and how?  We have to have a basis for filtering (another name for attending).  Some of these filters are very fine and designed to have potable water as their product, but most are very porous screens designed to get the big rocks out so that we can build meaning with them.  And the ability to switch out filters should be one of the hallmarks of a capable person in digital systems.

Thresholds were originally a barrier to the grain escaping from the threshing room floor and out the door.  It was intended to prevent waste.  We don't have the same kind of scarcity in a connected space.  We can't be concerned about "waste".  Instead we have to be obsessed with making sure that we have the best grain in the mill so that we can have the best flour.  Maybe we need one out of a hundred of the grains in order to have the very best flour.  You don't get that with a threshhold.  You get it by finding a way to sort and winnow the best from the rest and not just the wheat from the chaff.

It's difficult to break out of the traditional concept of following a defined sequential path and instead dip into the stream.

Yes, #clmooc was my first nonlinear course, and it was a learning curve to grasp the webbed nature of participating - but once I did, it was such a beautiful thing!

Nice acknowledgment

Thinking in public = trust exercise. Excellent observation.

Lowering of boundaries is often not encouraged in traditional academic structures.  Too bad.

And so glad you are taking the risk and jumping through the ether into you know not what.

OED rear, v.1 (rɪə(r))  Forms: 1 rǽran, 3 ræren, 3, 4 reren, 5 reryn; 4-6 rere, 5, 6 reere, (3) 6 reare, 7- rear; (6-7 rair, 9 dial. rare).  [OE. rǽran (:-OTeut. *raizjan) = Goth. -raisjan, ON. reisa, to raise. OE. had also árǽran arear (in use down to the 17th c.).     The main senses of rear run parallel with those of the Scandinavian equivalent raise, but the adopted word has been much more extensively employed than the native, and has developed many special senses which are rarely or never expressed by rear. Hence, on the one hand, rear has in many applications been almost or altogether supplanted by raise, a process which is clearly seen in the usage of the Wyclif Bible (see note to raise; in the version of 1611 rear is found only in 1 Esdr. v. 62, while raise is freely employed). On the other hand, it is probable that rear has sometimes, esp. in poetry, been used as a more rhetorical substitute for raise, without independent development of the sense involved. As in the case of raise there is some overlapping of the senses, and occasional uncertainty as to the precise development or meaning of transferred uses.]  I.I To set up on end; to make to stand up.  1. a.I.1.a trans. To bring (a thing) to or towards a vertical position; to set up, or upright. = raise 1.    Frequently with suggestion of senses 8 or 11, and now usually implying a considerable height in the thing when raised.     a 1000 Cædmon's Gen. 1675 (Gr.) Ceastre worhton & to heofonum up hlædræ rærdon.    c 1205 Lay. 1100 Heo rærden heora mastes.    Ibid. 17458 Mærlin heom [the stones] gon ræren [c 1275 reare] alse heo stoden ærer.    1387 Trevisa Higden (Rolls) V. 455 Þe place þere Oswaldus knelede and rerede a crosse.    c 1400 Sowdone Bab. 2658 Thai rered the Galowes in haste.    1530 Palsgr. 687/2 It is a great deale longer than one wolde have thought it afore it was reared up.    1571 Digges Pantom. i. xxix. I j b, Fixing o

OK, this is the secret sauce of teaching and critical pedagogy in general:  trust.  I love how more often than not, the kid really are alright.

I hope there is a recording of this.  Would love to be there but ...you know the drill. 

It would be of real value to know how you decided on this particular activity.  What drew you to it? Why did you think it might bridge your students? Was there a Plan B?  Just would be neat to know how you decided to take the teaching risk this particular way.  If it was just a hunch, they why do you think you had that hunch?  I suspect that you both have a long history together where this is an almost seamless colllaboration but teasing your process out even a little bit might very well help others--like me.

Love this! need to learn more about how this worked. maybe meet teacher via RFD? 

Finding that kernal of drive is important, and then reflecting on it .. even more important.

Fascinating concept here ... and a way to look at the world of digital media, where concepts are breaking away from itself.

Me too, born in Australia but from Russian and German background - both parents born outside Australia. I've always felt that I am both and neither.

Yes, there is the connection between friends who respond to the same humour and share interests, but there is also the shared history that allows common responses.