In Diigo forums that are public: introduce a 'Discuss' or 'Annotate' button (scrap, or obscure, the 'Reply' button) - 341 views

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  #1 Graham Perrin on 18 Nov 08

   

  Diigo fans, let's eat our own dog food!
  
  For Diigo forums that are public: improvement suggestions.
  
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  1. Instead of sometimes unnecessarily long threads, with excessive use of quoting: use Diigo highlights, sticky notes and comments.
  
  Implementation: in lieu of the 'Reply' button, on the first (only the first) message in a topic we should find a new button:
  
  * 'Discuss'
  
  ('Annotate' might be the more proper, Diigo-esque expression but the word 'Annotate' is somewhat robotic. At least for newcomers, 'Discuss' sounds more human ;)
  
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  2. Alongside (secondary to) the 'Discuss' button:
  
  * 'Extend'
  
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  3. If the 'Extend' button is pressed: do not default to quoting the preceding text.
  
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  4. If for a topic there exists an annotated link (in other words: if anyone has pressed the 'Discuss' button):
  
  * any visit to the topic should redirect to the annotated URL†
  
  † For users of Diigolet, should be no problem.
  
  † for users of Diigo toolbar, extra programming might prevent the annotated URL from redirecting to its target (I imagine a loop situation).
  
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  5. Start build/improve the tag dictionary for this group.
  
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  Ultimately, the results should be enormously positive.
  
  All encouragement to use Diigo annotations will naturally lead users to:
  
  * suggest ways in which the interfaces to annotations should be improved.

   

  <div class="cArrow"> </div><div class="cContentInner">Diigo fans, let's eat our own dog food! <br /> <br /> For Diigo forums that are public: improvement suggestions. <br /> <br /> ---- <br /> <br /> 1. Instead of sometimes unnecessarily long threads, with excessive use of quoting: use Diigo highlights, sticky notes and comments. <br /> <br /> Implementation: in lieu of the 'Reply' button, on the first (only the first) message in a topic we should find a new button: <br /> <br /> * 'Discuss' <br /> <br /> ('Annotate' might be the more proper, Diigo-esque expression but the word 'Annotate' is somewhat robotic. At least for newcomers, 'Discuss' sounds more human ;) <br /> <br /> ---- <br /> <br /> 2. Alongside (secondary to) the 'Discuss' button: <br /> <br /> * 'Extend' <br /> <br /> ---- <br /> <br /> 3. If the 'Extend' button is pressed: do not default to quoting the preceding text. <br /> <br /> ---- <br /> <br /> 4. If for a topic there exists an annotated link (in other words: if anyone has pressed the 'Discuss' button): <br /> <br /> * any visit to the topic should redirect to the annotated URL† <br /> <br /> † For users of Diigolet, should be no problem. <br /> <br /> † for users of Diigo toolbar, extra programming might prevent the annotated URL from redirecting to its target (I imagine a loop situation). <br /> <br /> ---- <br /> <br /> 5. Start build/improve the tag dictionary for this group. <br /> <br /> ---- <br /> <br /> Ultimately, the results should be enormously positive. <br /> <br /> All encouragement to use Diigo annotations will naturally lead users to: <br /> <br /> * suggest ways in which the interfaces to annotations should be improved.</div>

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  #2 Graham Perrin on 18 Nov 08

   

  /me clicks the 'Extend' button ;)
  
  For Diigo forums that are _not_ public, the suggestion should be approached with caution, for at least one reason:
  
  * production of an annotated URL may default to _showing_ not only the producer's annotations, but also _other users' annotations_.
  
  - there's potential for Diigo users to misunderstand the implications of producing URLs in this way.
  
  Still, I should love to see greater and more productive use of Diigo annotations. I suspect that too few users realise the benefits.

   

  <div class="cArrow"> </div><div class="cContentInner">/me clicks the 'Extend' button ;) <br /> <br /> For Diigo forums that are _not_ public, the suggestion should be approached with caution, for at least one reason: <br /> <br /> * production of an annotated URL may default to _showing_ not only the producer's annotations, but also _other users' annotations_. <br /> <br /> - there's potential for Diigo users to misunderstand the implications of producing URLs in this way. <br /> <br /> Still, I should love to see greater and more productive use of Diigo annotations. I suspect that too few users realise the benefits.</div>

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  #3 Graham Perrin on 05 Dec 08

   

  Maggie wrote:
  
  > … the whole purpose of in-situ "social annotation"
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  > Just "add comment" to follow on a sticky note conversation. Please
  > give that a try and let us know if you have any question.
  
  An unexpected side-effect of annotating topics within Diigo Groups fora is that sometimes (often?) there's a dominoes effect.
  
  People who opt to receive notifications via e-mail may receive both:
  
  a) notification, sometimes multiple notifications, for highlights and other annotations that are added to a topic
  
  b) notification of a non-annotation addition to the topic (example: I sometimes highlighted, the topic, then replied to the topic to offer the annnotated link thereof).
  
  Hmm. Complicated!
  
  If the excess traffic has bothered anyone: sorry! I'm restraining my use of annotations in this context until after I 'get' what's going on…
  
  (The risk of increased traffic may be greater for those people who opt for immediate notifications.)

   

  <div class="cArrow"> </div><div class="cContentInner">Maggie <a rel="nofollow" href="http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/337#2">wrote</a>: <br /> <br /> > … the whole purpose of in-situ "social annotation" <br /> > <br /> > Just "add comment" to follow on a sticky note conversation. Please <br /> > give that a try and let us know if you have any question. <br /> <br /> An unexpected side-effect of annotating topics within Diigo Groups fora is that sometimes (often?) there's a dominoes effect. <br /> <br /> People who opt to receive notifications via e-mail may receive both: <br /> <br /> a) notification, sometimes multiple notifications, for highlights and other annotations that are added to a topic <br /> <br /> b) notification of a non-annotation addition to the topic (example: I sometimes highlighted, the topic, then replied to the topic to offer the annnotated link thereof). <br /> <br /> Hmm. Complicated! <br /> <br /> If the excess traffic has bothered anyone: sorry! I'm restraining my use of annotations in this context until after I 'get' what's going on… <br /> <br /> (The risk of increased traffic may be greater for those people who opt for immediate notifications.)</div>

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