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started by BVinnie on 02 Jul 09
  • Lamarck Jean
     
    Hey!, sorry for my bad english. I didn know if diigo has this function. I usually use google web history for this but it doesn't work very well. There are some aplicattions in delicious that allow you to search in full text bookmarks but I ignorate if diigo can do it too.

    Can you post a link of this help page where explains this feature? I haven't found it. Thanks.

    Sorry.
  • BVinnie
     
    > BVinnie wrote:
    > > I'm testing out Diigo, and am particularly interested in the full-text search feature.
    . . .
    >Lamarck Jean wrote:
    >
    . . .
    >
    > Can you post a link of this help page where explains this feature? I haven't found it. Thanks.
    >

    pas de problème (or is that no es un problema) . . .

    The help page (http://www.diigo.com/help/search/1) says "Searching bookmarks in full-text will search the title, tags, comments, and the full text of each bookmarked page."

    The screenshot on that page doesn't match the current search page, as noted on the help page, which says: "The screenshots in the help section have not been updated to reflect recent changes in the website and toolbars, so they may not match exactly what you see on your screen. The help section will be updated shortly." What I'm concerned about is that the current search doesn't seem to have this functionality any more. There is no option on the current search page to say "full text".

    What I want to do is to bookmark, tag and comment/annotate on a number of pages, and be able to search (just) those pages, including both the original text and my mark-up.

    This functionality seems to be one of the 'highlights' of Diigo, and is what drew me here. Here's the reference for when the feature was originally implemented:
    http://blog.diigo.com/2007/08/02/full-text-search-support-for-group-bookmarks-and-forum/

    So . . . anyone else know what I'm doing wrong, or how to do the above?

    Thanks!
  • Graham Perrin
     
    Go to the Diigo online view of your bookmarks.

    For a bookmark that you expect to be amongst search results, check that a cached copy exists.

    If the cached copy is awaited, then search results may be affected.

    Regards
    Graham
  • BVinnie
     
    Graham Perrin wrote:

    > For a bookmark that you expect to be amongst search results, check that a cached copy exists.
    >
    > If the cached copy is awaited, then search results may be affected.

    Great, thanks, I'll be patient ;)

    -- B
  • Lars Bauer
     
    Graham Perrin wrote:
    > For a bookmark that you expect to be amongst search results, check that a cached copy exists.

    Thanks for the hint!

    Searching in the fulltext of my bookmarks generally works fine. However, for some of my bookmarks Diigo seems to cache a wrong/altered URL.

    Example:
    http://www.diigo.com/user/basral/urteile%20unzumutbarkeit?tab=250

    The original URL is:
    http://relevancy.bger.ch/cgi-bin/JumpCGI?id=BGE-100-II-345&lang=de&zoom=OUT&system=clir

    This URL is correctly shown in the browser's status bar when I hover over 'Cached'. However, when I click on 'Chached' '&lang' is replaced with a special character and no cached version is available ("Error. Invalid Reference"). This strange URL is also shown in the header of the expanded Diigo 'Preview' (although the page is displayed correctly).

    Any idea what's going wrong?
  • Lars Bauer
     
    Graham Perrin wrote:
    > Can you report the URL issue in a separate topic? Thanks.

    I've posted a summary at
    http://groups.diigo.com/Diigo_HQ/forum/topic/summary-of-issues-with-ampersand-and-semicolon-in-url-title-or-description-47382
  • BVinnie
     
    Graham Perrin wrote:
    >
    > For a bookmark that you expect to be amongst search results, check that a cached copy exists.
    >

    I'm fiddling around a bit more, but it seems that full-text search only works for public bookmarks -- is this right?

    I've made a couple of bookmarks as a test, one public and one private, and they now appear to be cached, but full text search only seems to work for the publically bookmarked page.

    For example, I searched 'my bookmarks only' from the search page (http://www.diigo.com/search) for the term "scenario", and the second document comes up as expected. If I search for the term 'interactions', which exists in the private document, I get no search results.
  • Graham Perrin
     
    Graham Perrin wrote:

    > * when I search for an unusual word that's within a highlight (but
    > not within the cached copy (the bookmarked item is password
    > protected)), the bookmark is not found.

    Correction!

    The bookmark is found, but not within the top three.

    It's found within the top six amongst over three hundred matches, which is a good result.
  • BVinnie
     
    Graham Perrin wrote:
    >
    > @ BVinnie: in your test, did you seek text within the cached copy, or an annotation (maybe a page
    > comment, highlight or stuck note) that's distinct from the cached copy?

    Search for unusual words within a highlight or annotation show up in the results. Search for an unusual word elsewhere in the cached document does not.

    The particular site I am trying to bookmark is not password protected, but the documents use the 'NOINDEX" meta-tag, e.g.:

    meta name="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOINDEX, NOFOLLOW, NOARCHIVE"

    The full document _is_ cached. I'm wondering if the Diigo full-text search engine honours the 'NOINDEX' tag even for cached documents, so that all that gets indexed is the text in the database (e.g., annotations, title, etc.)?
  • Graham Perrin
     
    BVinnie wrote:

    > For example, I searched 'my bookmarks only' from the search page …
    > If I search for the term 'interactions', which exists in the
    > private document, I get no search results.

    http://www.diigo.com/search?adSScope=my&what=interactions found, for me, 29 bookmarks, none of which had the word interactions in annotations, nine of which were private.

    I converted all nine from private to public (the mark of privacy arose from an import some years ago) and verified that the word interactions appeared in all nine cached copies. The nine bookmarks are tagged http://www.diigo.com/user/grahamperrin/Diigo+47344 and their cached copies are listed at http://www.diigo.com/list/grahamperrin/47344?v=p

    BVinnie wrote:

    > The full document _is_ cached. I'm wondering if the Diigo
    > full-text search engine honours the 'NOINDEX' tag even for cached
    > documents, so that all that gets indexed is the text in the
    > database (e.g., annotations, title, etc.)?

    Interesting. I wonder…
  • BVinnie
     
    Graham Perrin wrote:
    > I took the one of your three bookmarks
    > that includes the word interactions,

    Ah, you are one step ahead of me; I was working on different (private) documents, just a coincidence that one of the ones you found had the word interactions.

    >
    > I wonder whether the index of cached copies is updated only periodically.

    I wonder. I'm going to play around with it a bit more and see if I can figure it out; Diigo looks great, but if it doesn't index the documents I'm working with . . .

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