However, Bobo Lo, director of the Russia and China programs at the London-based Centre for European Reform calls the alliance an "axis of convenience." Writing for openDemocracy, he argues that Russia and China have very different objectives in Central Asia. Russia, he says, wants to reassert its regional leadership there, while China seeks energy ties. Erica Marat, a research fellow with the Central Asia-Caucasus Institute and Silk Road Studies Program Joint Center writes that they also "envision relations with the West differently." Citing these differences, some experts say the SCO is unlikely to pose a significant threat to U.S. interests in Central Asia.