Let me bring this discussion back around to generations, turnings, and cyclical versus linear time. One thing Bill and I discovered many years ago, even before The Fourth Turning appeared, was that most people who really do not like our perspective on history have fairly strong ideological motivations. These tend to be people whose ideology colors their perspective on history, who see history moving from absolute error toward absolute rectitude, and who (therefore) are really bothered by a view of history that is not linear. In this view, the idea that there might be something archetypal in a bygone generation or era of history seems bizarre, even perverse. There can be no archetype for social dysfunction and blatant injustice. It’s like a disease. When it’s over, you hope and expect it never returns.