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Evri Acquires Radar Networks In Semantic Search Consolidation - 8 views

  • Evri Acquires Radar Networks In Semantic Search Consolidation 10 Comments Share6 Buzz it by Erick Schonfeld on Mar 11, 2010 After shopping itself around to all the major search engines, Radar Networks finally found a buyer in another semantic search startup. Today, Evri is announcing that it will be acquiring Radar Networks, along with its core technical team and its main product, Twine. Rumors surfaced yesterday on ReadWriteWeb that Evri was being acquired, but that is not the case. Evri is the acquirer. I spoke with both CEOs this morning. They would not disclose the terms of the deal, but it is safe to assume that it was largely an equity-based transaction. Both Evri and Radar Networks share Paul Allen’s Vulcan Capital as their largest shareholder. Radar has raised $24 million in total capital, while Evri has raised $8 million. (At least that is what has been publicly disclosed. Paul Allen has poured much more money into Evri almost single-handedly, perhaps even more than Radar raised). Radar was unable to raise more during the recession and kept pushing out the release of its next product, T2, an ambitious project to create a semantic index of the Web. Using this semantic index, T2 can do a better job understanding what each Web page it indexes is about.
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    buy buy birdie
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    I think that's great news... Seriously, I do. Evri is really a very nice product.
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    It's a really great match! Let's hope they do something great!
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    I've begun to use it to do lots of Search. I find it to be a much more interesting experience with great results over Google. I think the Evri + Twine result is a terrific match and will provide others some of the semantic tools to build onto the semantic web.
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    Good to know, Jack. Please share if you find good examples of such searches with "great results over Google". Today I seem to have problems signing in (with Chrome - but it works with Firefox), so I suppose they are making some changes. I'm having some problems with the collections: can't find how to create a new collection or edit an existing one. Have you been using collections yet? Do they work for you?
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    Do you have the iPhone app. for Evri - EvriVerse? Very interesting. It uses the mapping that I wrote about in my letter to all of this group today in response to the Twain letter.
fishead ...*∞º˙

Bing, Google, And The Enigmatic T2: The Race For A Complete Semantic Search Engine - 7 views

  • It’s easy to read too much into these idle Tweets.  Spivack is the CEO of a search startup. It stands to reason that he would have meetings with Google and and other big search engines about lots of things, ranging from licensing his semantic search technology to an outright sale.  The one thing it is pretty safe to conclude is that both Google and Bing are very interested in semantic search.  Bing seems to be further along than Google, as the launch of recipe search indicates.
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    and here's the future.
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    By 'here', you mean Diigo??
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    Twine's future for what it's worth
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    This has been T1/T2's future from the beginning.
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    and the future of search engines is apparently recipes.. who knew?
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    And mostly fascinated with chicken recipes ... I'm overcome.
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    either that or baseball video games.
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    ah ha ...
Kurt Laitner

rss and saved search feed into groups - 1 views

long sought after at twine, the ability to feed one group into another, and to create a group from a static saved search, or feed a dynamic saved search (rss feed of new results on that search) int...

feature saved search search feeds iterative grouping

started by Kurt Laitner on 21 Feb 10 no follow-up yet
François Dongier

Anatomy of a Large-Scale Social Search Engine - 2 views

shared by François Dongier on 04 Feb 10 - Cached
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      Not sure I agree with this. In the Village paradigm, authority (reputation) remains important. Village paradigm extends (doesn't replace) the Library paradigm
  • We demonstrate that there is a large class of subjective questions — especially longer, contextualized requests for recommendations or advice — which are better served by social search than by web search. And our key finding is that whereas in the Library paradigm, users trust information depending upon the authority of its author, in the Village paradigm, trust comes from our sense of intimacy and connection with the person we are getting an answer from.
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    I think they are referring more to the kind of question. A query like "who is the oldest living American president?" is best suited for a Library paradigm, whereas a question like "is the current president of the US doing a good job in repairing the economy?" is really more of a village paradigm. I most likely will 'trust' the library answer on the first one, but will probably become en-snarled in endless debate with my Village on the second. The point is I think, that more and more, people are asking questions that the traditional library of knowledge cannot effectively answer, even with functional semantics in place. Long live The Village. Now, who IS Number 6?
Jack Logan

Eliminating the Need for Search « Nova Spivack - Minding the Planet - 7 views

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    Interesting. Looks like Nova's moved on from T2.
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    Are we never going to see T2? Thoughts?
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    It looks like even Nova has realized now the futility of his "project". It makes me think that he is more on the side of experimentation and pushing boundaries that actually developing anything substantial. One of the things I've been taught in my work is that the difference between dreamers and doers is that dreamers never stop dreaming. Doers know when to take the dream, flesh it out and make it into something that works. Nova is a dreamer, and has left a wake of half-baked thoughts behind him as he continues to seek the next "thing", having lost interest in the last "thing" he experimented with. There are a lot of once-promising ghost towns that have been cooked up and discarded that trail behind him like the chains on Dickens' ghost of Christmas past. Earthweb, NVention, Lucid, Radar, Twine. All flittering bubbles of inspiration that never grew up, and/or were abandoned by the dreamer just short of success. I think we've already glimpsed the "future" as Nova sees it, and I for one have learned that what ever his future is, I don't want to participate.
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    +1
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    @fish yeah we have a saying for those "dreamers'. it's "Put down the bong and DO something!!" Dreaming is something i do when i sleep. hoping,planning and working i do when awake. Keep waking em up Man!! And double +1 to your commet about interactions with Nova the Snake Oil Salesman!!
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    -1 :-)
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    I think Nova has contributed greatly, and will continue to do so. His gifting is not in finishing, but in starting - starters and finishers are seldom the same person. What is unusual here is that a starter is given large amounts of capital but the vc's don't know enough to pair him with a finisher. One of my business partners said a business needs a dreamer, a doer and a sob. To which I asked, so that makes you.....? T2 is based on what I know of it (unless they've come up with some scaling algorithm, which isn't a product, and should be sold based on the patent to MS or google) fails on differentiation, and is entering a market against formidable incumbents. Hence Nova's thoughts that the next 'google' needs to differentiate itself further are actually quite valid. If I were Nova's vc on T2 I would pull the plug. Never talk about your next project.
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    Not so long ago, in fact just a couple years ago, Twine (T1) was far ahead of the competition in the area of interest networking (building of communities around interests). I think Nova and T1 really did a good job in *pioneering* the idea that social networking should not just focus on people connecting to each other but rather on the topics that people share an interest for. For some reasons, Twine did not try to stay ahead in this field and didn't integrate improvements that seemed quite obvious. I would have liked to see T1 evolve towards real semantic tagging, connecting Twine tags and topics to linked data entities. I would have liked to see a T1 with stronger collaborative filtering: even the "like" button that was - i believe - introduced by FriendFeed, is now everywhere, except on Twine... I don't think that what Nova is discussing here has much to do with T2, just like I don't think that the semtweet project that he tweeted about a couple weeks ago has much to do with T2 either. I agree that so far Nova has been a dreamer, an inventor, more than a "doer", but I still like to check what he is dreaming about. Sometimes his dreams seem very deep and interesting: I don't find the current T2 dream (faceted search based on Apache-Solr technology) very exciting, unless something big comes out of it with respect to RDF. I am not that excited either about Semtweet, unless again it brings along something big with respect to RDF. And now Nova is sharing some new thoughts about some new user-machine interaction that wouldn't be based on search but on something else... I agree it's still pretty vague and not very convincing yet...
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Nova Spivack (novaspivack) on Twitter - 1 views

  • novaspivack @melissapierce danka! less than 10 seconds ago from TweetDeck in reply to melissapierce As for T2 -- we've made more progress... new stuff in lab to automate even more of the process for webmasters... not in my screenshots yet less than a minute ago from TweetDeck After 9 years of working on semantic web, it's good to see it finally being understood by business people. Not just us geeks. 2 minutes ago from TweetDeck Today I have been inundated with new interest in T2. Seems that vertical semantic search is hot all of a sudden. Finally. 2 minutes ago from TweetDeck The Twine T2 project is by far the most advanced vertical semantic search ecosystem platform. Check out: http://bit.ly/75amWI 5 minutes ago from TweetDeck The new battlefield of search is going to be around vertical semantic search. This is the year. It's coming. 6 minutes ago from TweetDeck
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    And death knell for Twine begins to toll...
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    Here are some death knell sounds that I heard a lot in the '80s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTlSZeLfS90
Jack Logan

The Global Brain is about to Wake Up « Nova Spivack - Minding the Planet - 3 views

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    This is an example of how NOT to build a social network. I did a search for 'twine' on this page, and couldn't find one example of it - but, all of his tweets are surfaced in a column on the right. Oppsss.
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    A number of interesting and stimulating thoughts in this post, which I find considerably less vague than Nova's previous post (last Saturday, that's a long long time ago:) on "eliminating the need for search". The next Google won't be about search but about monitoring, that's the first idea. The second interesting idea is about the Global Brain, whose emergence gets linked here with the speed of change and the richness of information available in the real-time web. And the third idea is about artificial consciousness. I've always been puzzled by Nova's mysticism, as he puts it, with respect to consciousness and subjectivity. I think it will take some time to see it disappear, just like Voodoo and all mysticisms, but things change fast nowadays...
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    @ francois...mysticism... LOL!
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    We got solipsism and mysticism eradicated in one day. Good start.
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    In Mac OS X, control-command-D. Let the world be literate!
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    @François - +1 on "Voodoo and all mysticisms, but things change fast nowadays" - They are changing fast, and we can look forward to these things changing faster than ever now and into the future!
fishead ...*∞º˙

The Anatomy of a Large-Scale Social Search Engine - John Battelle's Searchblog - 7 views

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    "Third, we learn some cool things about how Aardvark works. Check this quote out: "...unlike quality scores like PageRank [13], Aardvark's quality score aims to measure intimacy rather than authority. And unlike the relevance scores in corpus-based search Screen shot 2010-02-02 at 5.57.33 PM.png engines, Aardvark's relevance score aims to measure a user's potential to answer a query, rather than a document's existing capability to answer a query." Also interesting: " this involves modeling a user as a content- generator, with probabilities indicating the likelihood she will likely respond to questions about given topics. Each topic in a user profile has an associated score, depending upon the confidence appropriate to the source of the topic. In addition, Aardvark learns over time which topics not to send a user questions about...""
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    Have you used Aardvark? I haven't yet. If yes, did you enjoy it?
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    Nope--this is the first I'd ever heard about it. I just thought the thing about quality scores as an intimacy value was interesting--something along the lines of what Kurt calls "Reputation".
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    Look at what we're doing with 'reputation!' Whatever it turns out to be, I think it's amazing! I've never met any people on our list! Amazing!
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    haven't read yet, but Intimacy is a different dimVal than Reputation - related of course, and it has nothing to do with haptic body suits, though I suppose that would be a different type of Reward - looks interesting, off to scrounge around
Jack Logan

What are our Verbs? - 9 views

Some verbs I like in this context: share, track, filter, structure, organize, map, list, recommend, create, innovate, learn, debate, decide, choose, motivate, contribute, help, collaborate, open. ...

feature mining verbs

Jack Logan

In Search of the People Formerly Known as The Audience | Blog | design mind - 1 views

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    Click on the "Download the pdf" on this page to see this interesting study of the socnets of the day and don't do. How to find an audience ...
Kurt Laitner

Concepts - 3 views

place time person etc, first degree concepts for faceted search, (these may have display formats (person shows avatar, place shows map etc), metadata aspects (lat/long, gmt+/-, name) search result ...

feature

started by Kurt Laitner on 04 Jan 10 no follow-up yet
François Dongier

Press Release | Evri - Corporate - Part 0 - 0 views

  • This acquisition falls in tandem with a re-launch of www.evri.com, incorporating a number of visual and technological updates designed to enhance the experience of discovery. With the introduction of a redesigned global navigation model and more intuitive ways to search, explore and filter the trending news and multi-media content of the web, Evri enables consumers to cut through the clutter and receive only content of interest to them. “At Evri, we’re striving to deliver a search engine that proactively discovers the most interesting, popular and trending stories on the web, filtering out the clutter and delivering information to consumers in timely, relevant and intelligent streams,” said Mr. Hunsinger. “With the acquisition of Twine and the launch of our new consumer site, we’re making good on the intuitive discovery experience we envision for the Web.”
  • ABOUT EVRI Evri (www.evri.com) automates how content is understood, filtered and shared, inviting consumers to participate in the conversations that matter most to them. With over 2.5 million real-time topical streams across thousands of categories, Evri is rapidly improving consumers’ access to information on the topics they value most. Publishers large and small have installed Evri applications on their Websites, including some of the world’s most prestigious news organizations like Hearst Entertainment (www.lmk.com) and the Times of London. Evri is based in Seattle, WA, and is funded by Paul Allen’s Vulcan Capital. Evri is a tradema
Kurt Laitner

Faceted Search - 1 views

must have snappy performance, facets are user selectable from aspects and metadata, system should have a default set

feature

started by Kurt Laitner on 04 Jan 10 no follow-up yet
Kurt Laitner

Faceted Search - 2 views

using system 'Concepts' and user/group/social/domain specific types, and or not operations, result set type specification

feature facet browsing

started by Kurt Laitner on 10 Jan 10 no follow-up yet
fishead ...*∞º˙

Twitter / Home - 2 views

shared by fishead ...*∞º˙ on 22 Jan 10 - Cached
  • hthth    "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -H. P. Lovecraft 4 minutes ago from web
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  • novaspivack    Bing just made a big move today with recipe search. Google won't just sit there and do nothing. Going to be a good year for semantics. 8 minutes ago from TweetDeck
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    rather serendipitous how Hrafn's post relates directly to Nova's pet project, AND the two of them appear back-to-back in my twitterfeed...
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    Very, very interesting ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlm4O_ltgtk - "Very, very interesting ... but, ... stupid!"
Kurt Laitner

Science in the Open » Blog Archive » "Friendfeeds for Science" pt II - Design... - 1 views

  • If we recognize a role of author, outside that of the user’s curation activity we can also enable the rating of people and objects that don’t belong to users. This would allow researchers who are not users to build up reputation within the system
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      this is a really interesting twist, sort of like profile sites that allow you to 'claim' your profile - I also find the blending of poster with author annoying on twine and other socnets - it should be very clear who plays what role, this also reinforces that I would like to modulate the 'post' action to distinguish between things I just want to look at later and am filing, and things I've spent some time with and are recommending, as well as numerous other intentions that are currently bundled up in 'post' or 'share' buttons - this would also contribute to filtering granularity, as I could read everything that one of my trusted advisors had recommended, ignoring things they were merely 'collecting'
  • Finally there is the question of interacting with this content and filtering it through the rating systems that have been created. The UI issues for this are formidable but there is a need to enable different views. A streaming view, and more static views of content a user has collected over long periods, as well as search.
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Evri Ties the Knot with Twine - Twine CEO Comments and Analysis « Nova Spivac... - 0 views

  • Evri Ties the Knot with Twine — Twine CEO Comments and Analysis March 11th, 2010  Share Today I am pleased to announce that my company, Radar Networks, and its flagship product, Twine, have been acquired by Evri. TechCrunch broke the story here. This acquisition consolidates the two leading providers of semantic discovery and search. It is also the culmination of my long and challenging venture to pioneer the adoption of the consumer Semantic Web.
  • At the time of beta launch and for almost six months after, Twine was still very much a work in progress. Fortunately our users and the press were fairly forgiving as we worked through evolving the GUI and feature set from what was initially just slightly better than an alpha site to the highly refined and graphical UI we have today. During these early days of Twine.com we were fortunate to have a devoted user-base and this became a thriving community of power-users who really helped us to refine the product and develop great content within it.
  • These losses meant we could no longer create compelling content or to manage the Twine community. So we put Twine.com on auto-pilot and let the traffic fall off. While painful to watch, this at least had the benefit of reducing the pressure to scale the system and support it under load, giving us time to focus all our energy on getting T2 finished and raising more funds.
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  • The Twine team is joining Evri to continue our work there. Twine.com’s data and users are safe and sound and will be transitioned into the Evri.com service over time. This process will be done in a manner that protects privacy and data, and is minimally disruptive. I have great faith in the team at Evri and believe they will handle this with great care and respect for the Twine community.
  • Twine was well-received by the press and early-adopter users.
fishead ...*∞º˙

Bookmarks and other Google products : Troubleshooting bookmarks and lists - Bookmarks Help - 3 views

  • Google Bookmarks currently supports Google Maps, Google Toolbar, and Google Web Search. Items you bookmark or star in any of these products will appear on your Google Bookmarks home page, where you can add labels or organize them in lists. If you currently use another program or application to create bookmarks, you can use a bookmarklet to easily create Google Bookmarks instead. Drag this bookmarklet to your browser's bookmarks bar: Google Bookmark Any time you visit a webpage that you want to save to your Google Bookmarks page, simply click the bookmarklet in the bookmarks bar.
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    and look--a bookmarklet. Now where have we seen THAT before?
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    I'm pretty excited about Google doing this finally. But how about the Diigo lists? You seemed pretty excited about them at some point. Did you make any use of them? I only see the "top 10 european retailers" in your public lists.
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    Lists can have sections: once you've created a list, you can organize it, ie move items up and down just as with Diigo lists, but you can also create sections and then move items to those sections. Now can you have subsections? Apparently not. Well, one level of subsections may be good enough after all.
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    another project waiting for attention. I had all sorts of good intentions to explore 'lists', but have gotten really busy at work these days--typical 'right-sizing' actions by my employer have cut design staff to save money, while at the same time, pressuring the sales-force to bring in more business, meaning more efforts required by fewer bodies, under increased pressure to perform under tightened time constraints. this fish has no time to swim--too occupied dodging sharks! I am hoping that lists on google become more functional--as it is now, you have to bookmark first, then go to your bookmarks page to share to a list. they shoulda bought Twine just to learn that one!
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