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François Dongier

Action Streams: A New Idea for Social Networks - 1 views

www.readwriteweb.com/...w_idea_for_social_networks.php

action streams

shared by François Dongier on 20 Mar 10 - Cached
  • Earlier this month social software designer Adrian Chan offered up a proposal for what he called Action Streams.
  • Action streams would not only share status/activity update meta-data but also permit updates to function as actions. For example, an invitation update posted in twitter could be accepted in Buzz. The vision for action streams thus involves a distributed and decentralized ecosystem of coupled action posts, rendered by third party stream clients and within participating social networks.
  • The Activity Streams discussion is participated in by engineers from companies like Google, Facebook, Nokia, Yahoo and others. Chris Messina, who joined Google in January, is one of the key voices, and semantic web builder Monica Keller, who left MySpace for Facebook last month, appears to be taking an even more active role in the effort than she had before.
Kurt Laitner

Activity Heat Map - 1 views

feature activity

started by Kurt Laitner on 10 Jan 10 no follow-up yet
Kurt Laitner

Solving the Threaded/Flat problem - 1 views

forking / splitting and Perspectives come into this as well

started by Kurt Laitner on 01 Feb 10 1 follow-up, last by Kurt Laitner on 01 Feb 10
fishead ...*∞º˙

Ning now supports 2 million social networks, touches up branding | VentureBeat - 2 views

digital.venturebeat.com/...ning-twitter

social network

shared by fishead ...*∞º˙ on 21 Jan 10 - Cached
  • Ning, the company that lets you build your own social network, crossed the two-million network mark this month. Co-founded by Marc Andreessen, Ning helps people create niche social networks around special interests from social justice to late-night comedy shows. The Palo Alto-based company now has 41 million members across its networks, adding 1 million new communities since April of last year.
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 21 Jan 10
     
    perhaps we should look back at this?
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  • Kurt Laitner on 21 Jan 10
     
    I really disliked the ning experience
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 21 Jan 10
     
    yes, it was disappointing at the time. but they have added special sauce and Twitter integration--I know how muxh that rings your bell.
  • Jack Logan on 21 Jan 10
     
    Special sauce AND Twitter integration - I'm getting into Twitter! I get more interesting information from my Twitter feed than from anywhere right now - how strange is that?
  • Kurt Laitner on 21 Jan 10
     
    I've never gotten twitter, not sure I ever will, it is the spew, structured by hashtag. Special sauce is evil. Marc Andreessen is a brilliant guy, would love to have him on this project. That said I squatted on a bunch of twitter names early on and should have taken twittersquatter.com (avail then, not anymore) and market a twitter name keep alive service that keeps your twitter account active by pumping ads through it, then on the same site has a twitter name exchange that takes a cut of every txn. With twitter threatening to recycle inactive names could make a fortune. Makes me feel dirty though. Yours for the taking. Since I have a bunch of followers on accounts I've never used, spamming the spammers with the keep alive would be poetically satisfying
  • Kurt Laitner on 21 Jan 10
     
    I do not see the point in moving to ning, less capable than diigo
  • Jack Logan on 21 Jan 10
     
    Never liked making money very much - too much trouble - I'm a retired professor, for God's sake! But, I love working with people that get in my head and stay there (a paraphrase of one of your remarks, I believe!) And, I like doing good things ...
fishead ...*∞º˙

Analyst: Email will lose ground to social networks | VentureBeat - 3 views

digital.venturebeat.com/...er-social-software-predictions

shared by fishead ...*∞º˙ on 04 Feb 10 - Cached
  • Gartner recently published a list of five new predictions about “social software” that show mix of optimism and pessimism about whether these tools will be embraced by businesses. The most grandiose prediction is the first — that by 2014, social networking services will replace email as the primary communication tool for 20 percent of business users.
  • Gartner also argues that the distinction between email and social networks is disappearing, with social networks adding email-like capabilities while email adds social data.
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  • By 2014, social networking services will replace e-mail as the primary vehicle for interpersonal communications for 20 percent of business users. By 2012, over 50 percent of enterprises will use activity streams that include microblogging, but stand-alone enterprise microblogging will have less than 5 percent penetration. Through 2012, over 70 percent of IT-dominated social media initiatives will fail. Within five years, 70 percent of collaboration and communications applications designed on PCs will be modeled after user experience lessons from smartphone collaboration applications. Through 2015, only 25 percent of enterprises will routinely utilize social network analysis to improve performance and productivity.
  • Jack Logan on 04 Feb 10
     
    I know several examples of my friends (non-techie) that are already doing this. They seem to like it much better - all their friends in one place. The favorite if Facebook. I can't figure out who's reading what that I write, so I'm less interested right now, but if preferences/settings were much more obvious, this seems like it will happen. Right now notification seems to be working for me in Diigo.
  • Kurt Laitner on 09 Feb 10
     
    this seems like so much bs to me - facebook will be used for one to many, email client will be the notification/alert single screen of attention for everyone over 30. kiddies will likely embrace the new tech, and text will be their notification or they will use a phone client of some sort to aggregate. hopefully we can come up with a device independent alert/notification management interface that can 'replace' the email client (I'm getting pretty tired of managing social networks from an email client), but I bet it will be one of the email client providers who will figure that out and own it. it may mean handling more protocols in email client. the cardinal example in my mind is iCal handling in email clients - it automatically presents a different UI for that message - why shouldn't an email client be able to do everything facebook does? I think the paragraph from Gartner is so much bs as we have no real fixing of terms - will the email client as we know it today disappear, YES will the experience of messaging be more like facebook, GOD I HOPE NOT, but perhaps, but is this research worth paying for? frigging sound bites
fishead ...*∞º˙

How Many Is Too Many Twitter Followers? - Community - Gizmodo - 4 views

gizmodo.com/...-is-too-many-twitter-followers

shared by fishead ...*∞º˙ on 27 Jan 10 - Cached
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  • It's not really a problem for me, with my single-digit Twitter following, but anecdotal evidence shows that once a social networking community gets too big, the back-and-forth that created it evaporates. What I'm saying is, Ashton Kutcher is very lonely. A Wired editorial defends the idea of online obscurity, that those smaller groups and their casual sense of community have something that should be admired and retained. Once a group gets too big, members fade into the background, not wanting to speak in front of such a large audience, and in the case of Twitter, the person being followed becomes larger than life. It's an interesting idea—should we be more vigilant in protecting the small groups of which we're a part? [Wired]
    • Jack Logan
      Jack Logan on 27 Jan 10
       
      100 is too many!
  • frank smith on 27 Jan 10
     
    so we are not the only ones discovering that it is the more of the social and less of the network...so, the network is the issue???
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 27 Jan 10
     
    I think it's an issue more of human attention span and capability. It's much easier to keep tabs on and interact with a smaller group because we lack the ability to divide our attentions out beyond a certain point. There are already enough distractions in the world between family, work, neighborhood, town, city, state, country, etc. Adding another layer of interaction complicates everything else that is going around. In a small group, voices can be picked out from the crowd and heard--attended to. In a large group, a single voice gets drowned by the activity of everyone else, and the 'group' loses identity as a group, and becomes a mob. Besides, I like the bulletin board analogy--it really brought this idea. Time to stop looking at all the pinheads and pair down the clutter, right?
Kurt Laitner

Science in the open » What should social software for science look like? - 2 views

blog.openwetware.org/...software-for-science-look-like

SS4S social Networking

shared by Kurt Laitner on 08 Mar 10 - Cached
  • SS4S will be trusted and reliable with a strong community belief in its long term stability. No single organization holds or probably even can hold this trust so solutions will almost certainly need to be federated, open source, and supported by an active development community.
  • The problem with centralised services is three-fold. Firstly business models may take them in directions that aren’t useful for the scientific community (e.g. Friendfeed). They may simply fold, leaving the users behind with no-where to go (pick your recent failure).
  • Federation means that communties and organisations can both exist in their own space, with their own business models, but with a confidence that data is portable enough that it can be moved or replicated and with communications protocols that push things in and out of other services.
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  • make scientific objects available online while simultaneously assuring users that this upload and the objects are always under their control.
  • This will mean in many cases that what is being pushed to the SS4S system is a reference not the object itself, but will sometimes be the object to provide ease of use
  • shared interest
  • collaboratively filter
  • Kurt Laitner on 08 Mar 10
     
    clearly others are thinking about this in their domain, note the reference to ownership and posting references rather than content to the service (invisible to the user), taking things into one's personal stream (entanglement) and social graph based filtering
François Dongier

Strings - Track, Share, Discover - 7 views

www.strings.com/about

Strings attention collaborative filtering

shared by François Dongier on 19 Mar 10 - Cached
  • Strings is a social tracking and filtering platform that allows you to share and uncover experiences that are relevant to you. Strings incorporates strong privacy controls, easy filtering, and tracking support that allows your actions on and offline to automatically identify personalized trends worth following.
  • François Dongier on 19 Mar 10
     
    Yet another social bookmarking service?
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  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 20 Mar 10
     
    hmmnnn. looks like twine--similar main view. smells like twine--logos use connecting circles and lines. tastes like twine--people filter content for other people. feels like twine--connections, content, commentary. sounds like twine.
  • François Dongier on 20 Mar 10
     
    Right, although it seems to have a much wider scope than Twine: they want to track everything about the user's digital behaviour, not just wrt bookmarking: track and share what you buy, where you buy it, how much you pay for it, what you rent, what you read, what music you listen to, what movies you watch, what you like, what you dislike, what places you visit, who your friends are, etc.
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 20 Mar 10
     
    yeah--saw that. seems a little bit scary if you ask me. although google, the credit card companies, and the banks could probably do that stuff already.
  • Jack Logan on 20 Mar 10
     
    Are you guys trying Strings; I signed up for an account and I couldn't find any of you in the there. Is anyone in Strings?
  • François Dongier on 21 Mar 10
     
    Jack, I connected with you on Strings. So, from now on, you'll get an email whenever I do something on my PC or in my bedroom... No, just joking: I haven't shared anything and don't really see the point yet. But if you share something, I'll probably get a notification :)
  • fishead ...*∞º˙ on 21 Mar 10
     
    haahaaa...T.M.I. with strings. despite their assertion of multiple privacy levels, the mere fact that they WANT to follow everything you do in order to make personalized recommendations is what frightens me about the directions of Web 3.0. Who will watch the watchers? Goog is one thing with their 'do no evil' credo, but the idea of 24/7 active monitoring smacks of more than just altruistic effort to me. I'm gonna let someone else play with this strings...
Kurt Laitner

Science in the Open » Blog Archive » "Friendfeeds for Science" pt II - Design... - 1 views

cameronneylon.net/...a-research-focussed-aggregator

shared by Kurt Laitner on 08 Mar 10 - Cached
  • If we recognize a role of author, outside that of the user’s curation activity we can also enable the rating of people and objects that don’t belong to users. This would allow researchers who are not users to build up reputation within the system
    • Kurt Laitner
      Kurt Laitner on 08 Mar 10
       
      this is a really interesting twist, sort of like profile sites that allow you to 'claim' your profile - I also find the blending of poster with author annoying on twine and other socnets - it should be very clear who plays what role, this also reinforces that I would like to modulate the 'post' action to distinguish between things I just want to look at later and am filing, and things I've spent some time with and are recommending, as well as numerous other intentions that are currently bundled up in 'post' or 'share' buttons - this would also contribute to filtering granularity, as I could read everything that one of my trusted advisors had recommended, ignoring things they were merely 'collecting'
  • Finally there is the question of interacting with this content and filtering it through the rating systems that have been created. The UI issues for this are formidable but there is a need to enable different views. A streaming view, and more static views of content a user has collected over long periods, as well as search.
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